[Goanet] More critical comments are welcome-reg. Is Nandakumar Kamat an Agent of Mine Owners and the Politicians Who Want to Sell Minerals for a Song to Multinationals for their Personal Benefit?

2010-06-17 Thread Dr.Nandkumar Kamat
Lately my movement is restricted by minor cervical spondylosis. I am
on painkillers.
I am keenly following the direction and dynamics of the 'mining agent'
discussion. I have seen in 33 years of my active public life how well
settled people suddenly wake up, choose an issue and take a high moral
position. Now an intensity scale is being prescribed for environmental
issues.
I am pleased to inform all the discussants that I would be publishing
as a  booklet ( with Konkani and Marathi translations later) without
editing all the critical comments about me and put them before the
people, including obviously people in mining areas. It would be useful
also after my death ( it may come sooner than any one of you expect,
this is not a joke but take it is a serious statement) as an excellent
peer review of a scientist-activist's life. Please be very liberal in
your criticism. Cyberspace words don't hurt me. In fact, it would help
me to review my own decisions, my own life and considerably improve me
spiritually. Besides such shock treatment also kicks up my literary
spirit.
More critical comments are welcome. Also please dig as much as
possible from my personal life. Get the records from Panaji and
Ribandar/Old Goa police and the JMFC courts about my arrests , time
spent in jail and attending the courts etc. I also wish to  post
details about my assets and liabilities and income and expenditure and
my lavish lifestyle voluntarily as the interesting discussion
proceeds. it would prove my corrupt nature. Any punishment from
cybercourt is acceptable.
We need more critical discussion. Inflate the archives. My four and
half year old son when he grows up can also excavate the archive and
understand how useless and selfish his father had been.
 I am also thinking in writing about these comments in vernacular
media so that people come to know about my real face, mistakes, crimes
and misdeeds.
I would show the most critical comments when delegations from mining
affected areas, farmers, horticulturists seeking advice for public
hearing etc, approach me at my residence or Goa University.
I would also ask my close colleagues-Rajendra Kerkar and Ramesh Ganwas
whether they approve this interesting inquisition and consult them
about future course of action. I would also discuss this matter with
ex student leader and journalist Mr. sandesh prabhudessai of Prudent
Media (funded by a Mining group, no conflict of interest there?) and
former student leader, engineer and vice president of Goa Bacahao
Abhiyan, Ravindra Bhavan,, Margao and CEO of Fomento's Margao Sonsodo
project (no conflict of interest there?) lyricist Mr. Shridhar Kamat.
I wish to also consult Dr. Bikram Patel of Sangath whether their
collaboration with Dempo mining co. amounts to 'conflict of interests
and whether Indian NGOs and activists are comfortable with pharma
giant Wellcome Trust's sponsorships.
 I have my own critical assessment of the 'mining agent' debate.
Actually it has little to do with Arundhati Roy related postings. I am
a thorn in the way of many people.  Details of this politics in my
free and frank memoirs
Interestingly, I would have been spared of mining agent label  if I
were to be on the same level as Dr. Ligia Noronha. With excellent
local, national and international  contacts/connections , including
those with NGOs and activists and policy makers whatever she does as a
paid job/ employee of TERI  would never be seen as 'conflict of
interests'. As an environmental economist she knows much more and in
detail about legal and illegal mining in Goa. She is definitely in a
position to satisfy the expectations people keep from me.

For those who are unaware-dr. Noronha is also a member of Western
ghats expert panel chaired by Dr. Madhav Gadgil. We met in Bangalore
on March 30 th.
Read the minutes of the meeting at
http://moef.nic.in/downloads/public-information/MoM_western_ghats.pdf

I had mentioned in the Bangalore meeting the pressure brought on me.
My assessment of this environmental politics and its' clandestine
international angle would be sent in a report to MOEF and the Home
ministry.
I would now like to see what improved yardstick is applied to Dr. Noronha.
Although my ideology has been questioned the ideological architect of
mineral foundation of Goa is non other than Dr. Ligia Noronha who was
fellow of TERI. A separate yardstick has been applied to her and her
NGO. The proof is directly from TERI website as below:-
Project
A frame work for a minerals foundation
for Goa Mineral Ore Exporters Association, Goa, India
Summary
This project suggested and designed a framework of a Foundation to
support environmental and social programmes in the Mining belt of Goa.
This project was taken up at the initiative of ‘Goa Mineral Ore
Exporters Association’ (GMOEA) so as to assist them in setting up the
said foundation.
Salient features of the foundation
 Nature- corporate foundation
 Type of corporate foundation - donor and partnering
 Legal form- 

Re: [Goanet] More critical comments are welcome-reg. Is Nandakumar Kamat an Agent of Mine Owners and the Politicians Who Want to Sell Minerals for a Song to Multinationals for their Personal Benefit?

2010-06-17 Thread J. Colaco jc
On 17 June 2010 03:11, Dr.Nandkumar Kamat  wrote:

[1] Lately my movement is restricted by minor cervical spondylosis. I
am on painkillers.
[2] I am keenly following the direction and dynamics of the 'mining
agent' discussion.
[3] I am pleased to inform all the discussants that I would be
publishing as a  booklet
[4] More critical comments are welcome. Also please dig as much as
possible from my personal life.
[5] My four and half year old son when he grows up can also excavate
the archive and understand how useless and selfish his father had
been.

My dear Dr Kamat,

First of all, I trust that by the time this response reaches you, the
painkillers would have started working and the pain in the neck (no
pun no phun) would have subsided.

Your 'semi-bed rested' expression of your feelings having been noted,
two outstanding issues remain:

a: Will Augusto Pinto, who made that (IMHO) outlandish and slanderous
claim (by way of the subject line), now provide evidence for that
claim OR withdraw that with a public apology to you?

b: Will Goanet moderators apologise to you (publicly) for allowing
such a slanderous subject line on a fully moderated list?

good wishes to you and your family.

jc


Re: [Goanet] More critical comments are welcome-reg. Is Nandakumar Kamat an Agent of Mine Owners and the Politicians Who Want to Sell Minerals for a Song to Multinationals for their Personal Benefit?

2010-06-17 Thread Salus Correia
Kamat bab:

Take it easy my friend, do not take to heart the ramblings of some on
Goanet.  You don't have to prove anything after all these years of being on
the forefront honestly doing your bit fighting to save Goa's natural beauty.
Writing something hurtful is easy, but unlike Augusto etc, you are one of
the few who has walked the walk for Goa.

Keep up the good work - sorry to hear about your back etc, rest and get
well: Goa and your loved ones need you!

Best regards

Salus Correia



[Goanet] More critical comments are welcome-reg. Is Nandakumar Kamat an Agent of Mine Owners and the Politicians Who Want to Sell Minerals for a Song to Multinationals for their Personal Benefit? (Dr.

2010-06-17 Thread anil desai
Dr Kamat wrote:

For the term 2009-11 besides me Dr. Narayan Dessai is
also nominated.
For those who may not know he is  related to environmental activist
and social worker , Nyon 6, 6 agitation hero Dr. Dattaram Dessai and
another selfless champion of  Goa's sustainable future Dr. Anil Dessai
( in UK).

Response:

Dear Nandkumar,

If you want to make accusations in a public forum, it is important to check
facts or be prepared to eat your words and apologise.

After showering me with faint praise, you claim that Narayan Desai is
related to me. This is patently false. Please either show the people on this
list how he is related to me or retract your allegation and apologise.

I am well aware of your personal contribution to the Nylon 6,6 debate in the
goan papers.You characterised those of us who were fighting against Thapar
Dupont and their Goan agents, as Brahmins who wanted to put down
non-brahmins. You did not like the fact that Kashinath Jalmi who was a
leading supporter of this plant and your comrade in arms had lost his
support in my constituency. Environmental degradation and serious
contamination of Zuari from massive inflow of untreated waste from this
plant did not matter to you then. So, be happy with whatever you are doing.
Anything good that you do for Goa, I will support wholeheartedly. However,
that does not mean you can join the same league as Augusto and hurl
slanderous allegations against others.

If you want my personal opinion, you can sit on the board of mineral
foundation and do a lot of good towards clearing lot of the mess that legal
and illegal mining has left in Goa. So, good luck to you if this is what you
wish to you.

Anil Desai


Re: [Goanet] More critical comments are welcome-reg. Is Nandakumar Kamat an Agent of Mine Owners and the Politicians Who Want to Sell Minerals for a Song to Multinationals for their Personal Benefit?

2010-06-17 Thread soter
Dr. Nandkumar has done the best thing in taking on all his critics head on. 
There seems to be 2 yardsticks for defining conflict of interests. When real 
estate designers, engineers also appear on social action platforms, it is 
fine. When social activists take sponsorships and scholarships from mining 
barons, politicians, real estate.. it is fine. Exposing them becomes 
slander and against the Goan cause.
Dr. Nandkumar is not God and may have his limitations but that to just 
disregard his contributions to Goan society is not fair. What about the 
environmentalists who recieved the Gerra Awards? Why were they not hauled up 
for conflict of interest? Seems that people who have enjoyed both sides of 
the fence take the moral high ground to condemn others.


-Soter