Re: [Goanet] CLP FIRST ROUND OF DECISION TO DEBAR ENTERING IN PARTY ELECTION.
Estevam portou-se como um bom rapaz!. Beijinhos!:)) BC Dear Oscar, Thank you, I would reflect on your comments in the best interest of Goa.Let us continue your exchanges. Stephen Dias -E.C.A. DIASRetired as TO (E-1) Former Scientist A-1 and Leader of GOD/INSTRUMENTATION GroupCSIR- National Institute of OceanographyDona Paula-Goa 403004Email: steve.dias60@gmail.comTel" 0832-2452915 ( Res)Mob: (0) 9422443110 On 3 July 2015 at 19:18, Oscar Lobo wrote: Stephen No one is disputing the fact that you or anyone else for that matter has his or her opinion. How are opinions measured? Facts, assumptions, history, speculation or sopnam! I have just asked you a few questions compared to your so many letters to the press and Members of the Parliament where you have been making some sense and bickering on many others. I recall having informed you in writing to select your battles you can win as you seem to be all over the place. You agreed with me but continued to fly kites. People in glass houses should neither throw stones nor blow "trumpets" for fear of cracks and breakage. To gauge the effectiveness of one's "Opinion" is to get responses from those we address our concerns, When I met you briefly at Goanet meet in Porvorim last December (2014), I believe I rang you at least three times for a catch up and due to your unavailability we could not meet but we are now exchanging these emails that are proving unproductive. You can unleash your potentials and make it worthwhile by working as a part of a team. It was a fluke for David to defeat Goliath single heartedly. You are a knowledgeable man and my responding to you is not a reflection to undermine your intelligence but to draw your attention that Goans need to remind ourselves how we are outnumbered in our own land and lost our properties and fields. Please coordinate your efforts with like minded Goans remembering that when two elephants fight (two big parties) the grass (ordinary people) suffer. The definition of a professional is to behave as one should and not as one feels. Kind Regards Oscar From: Stephen Dias Sent: 3/07/2015 2:44 PM To: Oscar Carmino Lobo Cc: luizinho faleiro; Goanet; Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!; Digamber Kamat; sardinha; valankaa.alemao; reginaldo0510; shantar...@rediffmail.com; john.fernand...@gmail.com; Floriano Lobo; aassoc4...@aol.com; tirikamtel; Alina Saldanha; Manuel Caldeira; NRI office Goa Subject: Re: CLP FIRST ROUND OF DECISION TO DEBAR ENTERING IN PARTY ELECTION. OSCAR EVERYONE HAS HIS OWN OPINION AND YOU HAVE YOURS . THIAT WAS MIY OPINION AND I HAVE RIGHT TO EXPRESS WHAT I FEEL. YOU GIVE YOUR OPINION. OVER . WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT.SHUT YOUR TRUMPET. STEPHEN -E.C.A. DIASRetired as TO (E-1) Former Scientist A-1 and Leader of GOD/INSTRUMENTATION GroupCSIR- National Institute of OceanographyDona Paula-Goa 403004Email: steve.dias60@gmail.comTel" 0832-2452915 ( Res)Mob: (0) 9422443110 On 3 July 2015 at 09:49, Oscar Carmino Lobo wrote: . . 300.0..00 I was forwarded your e-mail of today (03 July 2015) along with the continuation, I am baffled with two things: 1. Are you the chosen one by Goans to make such statements? 2. Are you a part of a solution? 3. If in the affirmative, please explain what good will be done by +-your trumpeting the wish for Congress to take over Goa. Are you and other Goans not damaged? 4. If in the negative, don't you think that working in vacuum is totally unproductive given the day one 19 December 1961 which sidelined all Goans, properties taken from owners and many Goans had to leave their 1 . On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Stephen
Re: [Goanet] CLP FIRST ROUND OF DECISION TO DEBAR ENTERING IN PARTY ELECTION.
Stephen No one is disputing the fact that you or anyone else for that matter has his or her opinion. How are opinions measured? Facts, assumptions, history, speculation or sopnam! I have just asked you a few questions compared to your so many letters to the press and Members of the Parliament where you have been making some sense and bickering on many others. I recall having informed you in writing to select your battles you can win as you seem to be all over the place. You agreed with me but continued to fly kites. People in glass houses should neither throw stones nor blow "trumpets" for fear of cracks and breakage. To gauge the effectiveness of one's "Opinion" is to get responses from those we address our concerns, When I met you briefly at Goanet meet in Porvorim last December (2014), I believe I rang you at least three times for a catch up and due to your unavailability we could not meet but we are now exchanging these emails that are proving unproductive. You can unleash your potentials and make it worthwhile by working as a part of a team. It was a fluke for David to defeat Goliath single heartedly. You are a knowledgeable man and my responding to you is not a reflection to undermine your intelligence but to draw your attention that Goans need to remind ourselves how we are outnumbered in our own land and lost our properties and fields. Please coordinate your efforts with like minded Goans remembering that when two elephants fight (two big parties) the grass (ordinary people) suffer. The definition of a professional is to behave as one should and not as one feels. Kind Regards Oscar -Original Message- From: "Stephen Dias" Sent: 3/07/2015 2:44 PM To: "Oscar Carmino Lobo" Cc: "luizinho faleiro" ; "Goanet" ; "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" ; "Digamber Kamat" ; "sardinha" ; "valankaa.alemao" ; "reginaldo0510" ; "shantar...@rediffmail.com" ; "john.fernand...@gmail.com" ; "Floriano Lobo" ; "aassoc4...@aol.com" ; "tirikamtel" ; "Alina Saldanha" ; "Manuel Caldeira" ; "NRI office Goa" Subject: Re: CLP FIRST ROUND OF DECISION TO DEBAR ENTERING IN PARTY ELECTION. OSCAR EVERYONE HAS HIS OWN OPINION AND YOU HAVE YOURS . THIAT WAS MIY OPINION AND I HAVE RIGHT TO EXPRESS WHAT I FEEL. YOU GIVE YOUR OPINION. OVER . WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT. SHUT YOUR TRUMPET. STEPHEN - E.C.A. DIAS Retired as TO (E-1) Former Scientist A-1 and Leader of GOD/INSTRUMENTATION Group CSIR- National Institute of Oceanography Dona Paula-Goa 403004 Email: steve.dia...@gmail.com Tel" 0832-2452915 ( Res) Mob: (0) 9422443110 On 3 July 2015 at 09:49, Oscar Carmino Lobo wrote: . . 300.0..00 I was forwarded your e-mail of today (03 July 2015) along with the continuation, I am baffled with two things: 1. Are you the chosen one by Goans to make such statements? 2. Are you a part of a solution? 3. If in the affirmative, please explain what good will be done by + - your trumpeting the wish for Congress to take over Goa. Are you and other Goans not damaged? 4. If in the negative, don't you think that working in vacuum is totally unproductive given the day one 19 December 1961 which sidelined all Goans, properties taken from owners and many Goans had to leave their 1 . On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 10:22 AM,
Re: [Goanet] CLP FIRST ROUND OF DECISION TO DEBAR ENTERING IN PARTY ELECTION.
Dear Oscar, Thank you, I would reflect on your comments in the best interest of Goa. Let us continue your exchanges. Stephen Dias - E.C.A. DIAS Retired as TO (E-1) Former Scientist A-1 and Leader of GOD/INSTRUMENTATION Group CSIR- National Institute of Oceanography Dona Paula-Goa 403004 Email: steve.dia...@gmail.com Tel" 0832-2452915 ( Res) Mob: (0) 9422443110 On 3 July 2015 at 19:18, Oscar Lobo wrote: > Stephen > > No one is disputing the fact that you or anyone else for that matter has > his or her opinion. > > How are opinions measured? Facts, assumptions, history, speculation or > sopnam! > > I have just asked you a few questions compared to your so many letters to > the press and Members of the Parliament where you have been making some > sense and bickering on many others. > > I recall having informed you in writing to select your battles you can win > as you seem to be all over the place. You agreed with me but continued to > fly kites. > > People in glass houses should neither throw stones nor blow "trumpets" for > fear of cracks and breakage. To gauge the effectiveness of one's "Opinion" > is to get responses from those we address our concerns, > > When I met you briefly at Goanet meet in Porvorim last December (2014), I > believe I rang you at least three times for a catch up and due to your > unavailability we could not meet but we are now exchanging these emails > that are proving unproductive. > > You can unleash your potentials and make it worthwhile by working as a > part of a team. > > It was a fluke for David to defeat Goliath single heartedly. > > You are a knowledgeable man and my responding to you is not a reflection > to undermine your intelligence but to draw your attention that Goans need > to remind ourselves how we are outnumbered in our own land and lost our > properties and fields. > > Please coordinate your efforts with like minded Goans remembering that > when two elephants fight (two big parties) the grass (ordinary people) > suffer. > > The definition of a professional is to behave as one should and not as one > feels. > > Kind Regards > > Oscar > > > > > > > > -- > From: Stephen Dias > Sent: 3/07/2015 2:44 PM > To: Oscar Carmino Lobo > Cc: luizinho faleiro ; Goanet > ; Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! > ; Digamber Kamat ; sardinha > ; valankaa.alemao ; > reginaldo0510 ; shantar...@rediffmail.com; > john.fernand...@gmail.com; Floriano Lobo ; > aassoc4...@aol.com ; tirikamtel ; > Alina Saldanha ; Manuel Caldeira > ; NRI office Goa > > Subject: Re: CLP FIRST ROUND OF DECISION TO DEBAR ENTERING IN PARTY > ELECTION. > > OSCAR > > EVERYONE HAS HIS OWN OPINION AND YOU HAVE YOURS . THIAT WAS MIY OPINION > AND I HAVE RIGHT TO EXPRESS WHAT I FEEL. > YOU GIVE YOUR OPINION. OVER . WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT. > SHUT YOUR TRUMPET. > > STEPHEN > > > - > E.C.A. DIAS > Retired as TO (E-1) > Former Scientist A-1 and Leader of GOD/INSTRUMENTATION Group > CSIR- National Institute of Oceanography > Dona Paula-Goa 403004 > Email: steve.dia...@gmail.com > Tel" 0832-2452915 ( Res) > Mob: (0) 9422443110 > > On 3 July 2015 at 09:49, Oscar Carmino Lobo wrote: > >> . >> >> . >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 300.0..00 >> >> I was forwarded your e-mail of today (03 July 2015) along with the >> continuation, I am baffled with two things: >> >> 1. Are you the chosen one by Goans to make such statements? >> >> 2. Are you a part of a solution? >> >> 3. If in the affirmative, please explain what good will be done >> by + >> - >> your trumpeting the wish for Congress to take over Goa. Are you and >> other Goans not damaged? >> >> 4. If in the negative, don't you think that working in vacuum is totally >> unproductive given the day one 19 December 1961 which sidelined all Goans, >> properties taken from owners and many Goans had to leave their >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
Re: [Goanet] CLP FIRST ROUND OF DECISION TO DEBAR ENTERING IN PARTY ELECTION.
Baba Stephen, This is a white wash or in other words fooling people, People like Reginaldo may be opposed to Church -Hill coming to congress But when Kumpar Luizinho has met him in two unofficial meeting and every has been set and decided and he has taken Madame Sonia's nod, can anyone stop it, They have no care for the people, it is only people like you rant, They know that BJP has dug their own grave and they have good chances of bouncing back. They have looted together and will combine to loot again, not harm in saying that. No wonder one does not become a millionaire and takes advantage of the Volutnary Disclosure Scheme offered bu the central governemtn to convert your ill-gotten wealth into white money. and do you know how many apartments, these two kumpars have on the coastal belt. they have many, Churchill gives them to his players to stay but the more cunning and suave one gives to his friends and relatives based outside India when they come on holidays. Some of his relatives and friends who came to his son's wedding were housed in such apartments in benaulim and Cavelossim. I know for sure as one of his relative was staying in Lotus apartments in benaulim The chors will continue to loot there is no doubt about it On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 3:22 AM, Stephen Dias wrote: > Dear Goa Congress President > Luizinho Faleiro > > I give you "thumps up" that a decision has finally come up from your > meeting of CLP in Goa. In the first round decision that Alemao, Sardinha > and Ravi are out to contest election in 2017. That's GOOD and I praise your > decision taken at the meeting. Probably I expect in the 2nd round another > list coming up and final round will be absolutely clear for the electorate > and voters will be sure that these old guys are out from elections and > Congress definitely stand better chances of winning election this time. > Hope you will keep up and hope the so called High Command Sonia Gandhi does > not change/alter unless it is necessary and must be given reasons for > considering it, any one of them and if it is found satisfactorily by the > voters at large than will be accepted or else Congress will smell the dust. > > Stephen Dias > D.Paula > > - > E.C.A. DIAS > Retired as TO (E-1) > Former Scientist A-1 and Leader of GOD/INSTRUMENTATION Group > CSIR- National Institute of Oceanography > Dona Paula-Goa 403004 > Email: steve.dia...@gmail.com > Tel" 0832-2452915 ( Res) > Mob: (0) 9422443110 >
Re: [Goanet] CLP FIRST ROUND OF DECISION TO DEBAR ENTERING IN PARTY ELECTION.
OSCAR EVERYONE HAS HIS OWN OPINION AND YOU HAVE YOURS . THIAT WAS MIY OPINION AND I HAVE RIGHT TO EXPRESS WHAT I FEEL. YOU GIVE YOUR OPINION. OVER . WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT. SHUT YOUR TRUMPET. STEPHEN - E.C.A. DIAS Retired as TO (E-1) Former Scientist A-1 and Leader of GOD/INSTRUMENTATION Group CSIR- National Institute of Oceanography Dona Paula-Goa 403004 Email: steve.dia...@gmail.com Tel" 0832-2452915 ( Res) Mob: (0) 9422443110 On 3 July 2015 at 09:49, Oscar Carmino Lobo wrote: > . > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 300.0..00 > > I was forwarded your e-mail of today (03 July 2015) along with the > continuation, I am baffled with two things: > > 1. Are you the chosen one by Goans to make such statements? > > 2. Are you a part of a solution? > > 3. If in the affirmative, please explain what good will be done > by + > - > your trumpeting the wish for Congress to take over Goa. Are you and other > Goans not damaged? > > 4. If in the negative, don't you think that working in vacuum is totally > unproductive given the day one 19 December 1961 which sidelined all Goans, > properties taken from owners and many Goans had to leave their > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 > > . > > On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Stephen Dias > wrote: > >> Dear Goa Congress President >> Luizinho Faleiro >> >> I give you "thumps up" that a decision has finally come up from your >> meeting of CLP in Goa. In the first round decision that Alemao, Sardinha >> and Ravi are out to contest election in 2017. That's GOOD and I praise your >> decision taken at the meeting. Probably I expect in the 2nd round another >> list coming up and final round will be absolutely clear for the electorate >> and voters will be sure that these old guys are out from elections and >> Congress definitely stand better chances of winning election this time. >> Hope you will keep up and hope the so called >> High Command Sonia Gandhi does not change/alter unless it is necessary and >> must be given reasons for considering it, any one of them and if it is >> found satisfactorily by the voters at large than will be accepted or else >> Congress will smell the dust. >> >> Stephen Dias >> D.Paula >> >> - >> E.C.A. DIAS >> Retired as TO (E-1) >> Former Scientist A-1 and Leader of GOD/INSTRUMENTATION Group >> CSIR- National Institute of Oceanography >> Dona Paula-Goa 403004 >> Email: steve.dia...@gmail.com >> Tel" 0832-2452915 ( Res) >> Mob: (0) 9422443110 >> > > > > -- > Regards > > Oscar C. Lobo > > *"If a man does not know what harbour he is seeking ; no light will **be > enough to guide him"* > (Lucius Annaeus Seneca) > >
Re: [Goanet] CLP FIRST ROUND OF DECISION TO DEBAR ENTERING IN PARTY ELECTION.
. . 300.0..00 I was forwarded your e-mail of today (03 July 2015) along with the continuation, I am baffled with two things: 1. Are you the chosen one by Goans to make such statements? 2. Are you a part of a solution? 3. If in the affirmative, please explain what good will be done by + - your trumpeting the wish for Congress to take over Goa. Are you and other Goans not damaged? 4. If in the negative, don't you think that working in vacuum is totally unproductive given the day one 19 December 1961 which sidelined all Goans, properties taken from owners and many Goans had to leave their 1 . On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Stephen Dias wrote: > Dear Goa Congress President > Luizinho Faleiro > > I give you "thumps up" that a decision has finally come up from your > meeting of CLP in Goa. In the first round decision that Alemao, Sardinha > and Ravi are out to contest election in 2017. That's GOOD and I praise your > decision taken at the meeting. Probably I expect in the 2nd round another > list coming up and final round will be absolutely clear for the electorate > and voters will be sure that these old guys are out from elections and > Congress definitely stand better chances of winning election this time. > Hope you will keep up and hope the so called > High Command Sonia Gandhi does not change/alter unless it is necessary and > must be given reasons for considering it, any one of them and if it is > found satisfactorily by the voters at large than will be accepted or else > Congress will smell the dust. > > Stephen Dias > D.Paula > > - > E.C.A. DIAS > Retired as TO (E-1) > Former Scientist A-1 and Leader of GOD/INSTRUMENTATION Group > CSIR- National Institute of Oceanography > Dona Paula-Goa 403004 > Email: steve.dia...@gmail.com > Tel" 0832-2452915 ( Res) > Mob: (0) 9422443110 > -- Regards Oscar C. Lobo *"If a man does not know what harbour he is seeking ; no light will **be enough to guide him"* (Lucius Annaeus Seneca)