Re: [Goanet] How is the Lok Pal bill going to curb corruption..........

2011-08-22 Thread Vivian A. DSouza
The Lok Pal or Jan Lok Pal bills by themselves will not totally curb corruption 
in India.  But the crusade by Anna Hazare and his followers has touched a deep 
nerve in Indians who are fed up with corruption in their daily lives.  It has 
brought this issue to the forefront.
For the past 50 years or so, successive governments have proposed versions of a 
Lok Pal
bill which has not seen the light of day, languishing in some committee or the 
other.  Indians have had enough.  Hence the outcry across the country.  You can 
call it
firing a round across the deck of the ship to get the attention of the 
politicians.  Whatever   version of the bill is passed,  its impact will be 
minimal, probably curbing some corruption at the higher echelons, for a  period 
of time.  The only way corruption in India can be curbed, is if every Indian 
takes a pledge against bribery,,cheating, and theiving in their personal 
lives.  Unless each Indian plays his or her part c orruption will not end..  
Tall order.  Personally, I believe that corruption is so entrenched in the 
Indian psyche that it is par for the course. The din will die down and it will 
be corruption as usual.
 
Unfortunately, it is the poor of India who are the most impacted by 
corruption.  But they are so busy eking out a miserable living, that very few 
of them are involved in this movement against corruption.   The ongoing Lok Pal 
agitation is primarily a Middle class Indian phenomenon. 
 


Re: [Goanet] How is the Lok Pal bill going to curb corruption..........

2011-08-22 Thread vivek araujo
Dear Vivian,

Thanks for the valuable input and insight on this topic and i would not like to 
have an invaluable extension of this subject but i have my concerns.

Two issues one this bill not crubbing corruption totally from this bill 
secondly Anna has started this crusade , starting this crusade by touching the 
deep nerve of every Indian which we can see on TV and read on newspapers is to 
be commendeda and applauded  but without eliminating this diseases it is of no 
value.

Second say this bill comes into effect and if i befriend someone and  bribe 
him/her  to get my work done fast how will this bill help me eliminate 
corruption , in short i am happy of getting my work done fast and secondly the 
person who got his dues is happy two so why complain.

I am looking at the reality on the ground ,and the genuine fact of the matter 
is , its not the lokpal bill which is going to eliminate corruption in india 
but the duty of  every citizen in india  to report when they fall victims to 
bribes and mind you giving bribes is equally a crime as that of receving it .

Regards

Vivek 

--- On Mon, 22/8/11, Vivian A. DSouza socorro...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Vivian A. DSouza socorro...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [Goanet] How is the Lok Pal bill going to curb 
 corruption..
 To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
 Date: Monday, 22 August, 2011, 11:17 AM
 The Lok Pal or Jan Lok Pal bills by
 themselves will not totally curb corruption in India.  But
 the crusade by Anna Hazare and his followers has touched a
 deep nerve in Indians who are fed up with corruption in
 their daily lives.  It has brought this issue to the
 forefront.
 For the past 50 years or so, successive governments have
 proposed versions of a Lok Pal
 bill which has not seen the light of day, languishing in
 some committee or the other.  Indians have had enough. 
 Hence the outcry across the country.  You can call it
 firing a round across the deck of the ship to get the
 attention of the politicians.  Whatever   version of the
 bill is passed,  its impact will be minimal, probably
 curbing some corruption at the higher echelons, for a 
 period of time.  The only way corruption in India can be
 curbed, is if every Indian takes a pledge against
 bribery,,cheating, and theiving in their personal lives. 
 Unless each Indian plays his or her part c orruption will
 not end..  Tall order.  Personally, I believe that
 corruption is so entrenched in the Indian psyche that it is
 par for the course. The din will die down and it will be
 corruption as usual.
  
 Unfortunately, it is the poor of India who are the most
 impacted by corruption.  But they are so busy eking out a
 miserable living, that very few of them are involved in this
 movement against corruption.   The ongoing Lok Pal
 agitation is primarily a Middle class Indian phenomenon.