Re: [Goanet] Khristapurana, Brahman and Person: Essays by Richard De Smet

2010-05-25 Thread Venantius J Pinto
Dear MD,
This Eknath Easwaran is not Sant Eknath--let us be clear about
this! Needless to add, but he is also not on the Taize site, and the manner
in which my post was demarcated made it unambiguous.

Eknath Easwaran is a spiritual teacher and is the author of among other
books, 1000 Names of Vishnu; pub by Jaico Boks. He was a Professor of
English Lit at Nagpur, and travelled to the US via the Fullbright exchange
program in 1959. This Eknath if I am not mistaken is still alive.

Respectfully, the question about the blaming bit is not something that was
part of my post, which was a subtler analogy on Brahman [in a broad sense to
be seen as Ultimate Reality] via, Nada de turbe.So let us not go there!?

I am very aware of the Bhakti Sants, and have many books of their verse here
in New York. Thanks much for sharing. Hope this clarifies.

Btw, what does MD stand for?

venantius j pinto

Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 10:26:42 -0700
 From: MD mmdme...@gmail.com
 To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
 Subject: Re: [Goanet] Khristapurana,Brahman and Person: Essays by
Richard De  Smet

 (Del)
 Eknath wrote chiefly in the Ovi metre and his most popular work is his
 metrical translation of the Bhagwad Gita, generally called 'Eknathi
 Bhagwat'. He died in 1608.

 My comments:

 I came accross a website a few days ago,  that had the above information.
 Surprising, Eknath's name should come up here.

 I also happened to attend one Taize prayer in a Toronto Church and the
 hymns
 sung and the prayers indeed were wonderful, par excellence.  Soft light,
 soft music soft spoken prayers and time to reflect, it was great.
 This originated in Taiz, France.

 Come to think of it:

 Eknath was put out of caste and once his poems were publicly sunk in the
 river Godavari.

 Who do we blame for this atrocity

 MD.

 Message: 4
 Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 23:34:13 -0400
 From: Venantius J Pinto venantius.pi...@gmail.com



 As usual in my opinion: a reasonable tangent.
 Nothing we receive to include the Self can diminish the infinite stores of
 love and wisdom.



 From Eknath Easwaran's Purna (Full) in 1000 names of Visnhu.
 By St.Teresa
 Nada te turbe,
 Nada te espante
 Todo se pasa.
 Dios no se mua
 La pacienza
 Todo lo alcanza.
 Quien a Dios tiene
 Nada le falta.
 Solo Dios basta.
 Let nothing upset you;
 Let nothing frighten you.
 Everything is changing;
 God alone is changeless.
 Patience attains the goal.
 Who has God lacks nothing,
 God alone fills all his needs.



 Btw, it is amazing to see and be a part of the youth at Taiz? sing a
 version
 of the above (in tandem with various Alleluia's, the Magnificat/s, B?nissez
 le Seigneur, Bless the Lord, etc. (Cluny
 chantshttp://www.taize.fr/en_article10308.html),
 close to the Abbaye de Cluny http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cluny_Abbey
 (in
 eng.), France.

 The Taiz? version 
 http://www.taize.fr/spip.php?page=chantsong=483lang=en
 .
 Na-da te tur-be,
 nada te_es.pan-te;
 quien a Dios tie-ne,
 na-da le fal-ta.
 Na-da te tur-be,
 na-da te_es-pan-te
 s?-lo Dios
 bas-ta.
 Nothing can trouble,
 nothing can frigh-ten
 those who seek God shall ne-ver go want-ing,
 God a-lone fills us.
 (DEL)





Re: [Goanet] Khristapurana, Brahman and Person: Essays by Richard De Smet

2010-05-25 Thread Venantius J Pinto
Dear All,
I misread MDs post, so here is my corrected post, including details on EEs
lifespan. (vjp)

Dear MD,
Interesting how things come about. Eknath Easwaran and Sant Eknath.

Eknath Easwaran http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eknath_Easwaran (December,
1910 – October 26, 1999) was a spiritual teacher and the the author of among
other books, 1000 Names of Vishnu; pub by Jaico Boks. He was a Professor of
English Lit at Nagpur, and travelled to the US via the Fullbright exchange
program in 1959. For some reason I was under the impression he was still
alive.

Respectfully, the question about the blaming bit is not something that was
part of my post, which was a subtler analogy on Brahman [in a broad sense to
be seen as Ultimate Reality] via, Nada de turbe.

I am very aware of the Bhakti Sants, and have many books of their verse here
in New York.

Btw, what does MD stand for?


Re: [Goanet] Khristapurana, Brahman and Person: Essays by Richard De Smet

2010-05-24 Thread Venantius J Pinto
As usual in my opinion: a reasonable tangent.
Nothing we receive to include the Self can diminish the infinite stores of
love and wisdom.

From Eknath Easwaran's Purna (Full) in 1000 names of Visnhu.
By St.Teresa

Nada te turbe,
Nada te espante
Todo se pasa.
Dios no se mua
La pacienza
Todo lo alcanza.
Quien a Dios tiene
Nada le falta.
Solo Dios basta.

Let nothing upset you;
Let nothing frighten you.
Everything is changing;
God alone is changeless.
Patience attains the goal.
Who has God lacks nothing,
God alone fills all his needs.

Btw, it is amazing to see and be a part of the youth at Taizé sing a version
of the above (in tandem with various Alleluia's, the Magnificat/s, Bénissez
le Seigneur, Bless the Lord, etc. (Cluny
chantshttp://www.taize.fr/en_article10308.html),
close to the Abbaye de Cluny http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cluny_Abbey (in
eng.), France.


The Taizé version http://www.taize.fr/spip.php?page=chantsong=483lang=en
.

Na-da te tur-be,
nada te_es.pan-te;
quien a Dios tie-ne,
na-da le fal-ta.
Na-da te tur-be,
na-da te_es-pan-te
só-lo Dios
bas-ta.

Nothing can trouble,
nothing can frigh-ten
those who seek God shall ne-ver go want-ing,
God a-lone fills us.

Music: J. Berthler
Ateliers et Presses de Taizé,
F-71250, Taizé Communité

(also on my blog venatiusaneum http://venantiusjpinto.blogspot.com/ with
the music notation)


venantius j pinto


Re: [Goanet] Khristapurana, Brahman and Person: Essays by Richard De Smet

2010-05-24 Thread MD
 The Marathi language is derived mainly from two sources, Sanskrit and
Turanian or Dravidian with good many Persian and Arabic words due to
centuries of Muslim rule, but Sanskrit element predominates nine tenth of
Marathi, which is immediate descendant of Maharashtri (Prakrit?) that was
spoken about the beginning of Christian era.

The only extant work in Maharashtri is the 'Shalivahana or Satavahana
Saptashti' composed by king Shalivahana. He composed with the help of
Pandits, 400,000 gathas or verses in the Maharashtri or Prakrit tongue.
There is no literary work extant between the time of Shalivahana and that of
Mukundraj who lived about 1200 AD. The only important literature in Marathi
is its poetry, and not much prose literature worthy of the name.
The oldest Maratha poet is Mukundraj, probably lived in the 12th century
A.D. and was patronized by Yadava king Jaitrapal. Three of Mukundraj's works
are extant - 'mthe vivek sindhu or ocean of discrimination; param amrita or
great nectar and mulasthambha or ptimary pillar, a title of Shiva.'

Then come the poets Namdev (a tailor by caste) and Dnyanadev. Dnyanadev's
work is 'Dnyaneshwari', a commentary on the Bhagwad Gita or Divine Hymn. It
is written in the 'OVI' metre containing some 10,000 verses. As an
explanatory work for the Prakrit reader, it is not of much use as it is so
full of words and phrases that even good Marathi scholars who also are well
versed in Sanskrit find it more difficult to comprehension than original
Sanskrit!. At the end of the song, the poet says while king Ramadev of the
famous Yadava dynasty was ruling Maharashtra.

A vernacular version of the Bhagwad Gita was prepared by Dnyanadev in 1212.
Dnyanadev had two brothers Nivritti and Sopandev and one sister, Muktabai,
all of who have been deified by the Marathas, the three brothers being
regarded as incarnations of the Hindu Trinity and the sister as an
incarnation of the goddess of learning (Saraswati? - md).

For three centuries after Dnyanadev, during the Muslim occupation, no writer
of any note appeared. Towards the end of the 16th century, in the old centre
of glory called 'PAITHAN', there lived an exceedingly remarkable man,
remarkable both as a poet and reformer. His name is Eknath, son of Suryaji,
a Deshasta Brahman.
Many stories are told of the redicule and persecution which Eknath underwent
at the hands of the Brahmans of Paithan and Banares (Varanasi). On several
occasions, Eknath was put out of caste and once his poems were publicly sunk
in the river Godavari. But he cared for none of these things. He took up his
parable against the caste system and other social disabilities which have no
sanction in the Shastras (Hindu Scriptures?) and boldly carried his
principles into practice.

On one occasion, one of his audience, a pious and intelligent Mahar (Mhaar)
asked Eknath, while he was urging his usual views, whether he would be an
exemplar of the principle that,  before God a Brahman and a Mhaar are equal,
by dining in his house. The poet had the courage of his opinions and next
day he went to the house of the Mhaar who had questioned him and there,
publicly partook of food prepared by the Mhaar's wife!!

Eknath wrote chiefly in the Ovi metre and his most popular work is his
metrical translation of the Bhagwad Gita, generally called 'Eknathi
Bhagwat'. He died in 1608.

My comments:

I came accross a website a few days ago,  that had the above information.
Surprising, Eknath's name should come up here.

I also happened to attend one Taize prayer in a Toronto Church and the hymns
sung and the prayers indeed were wonderful, par excellence.  Soft light,
soft music soft spoken prayers and time to reflect, it was great.
This originated in Taiz, France.

Come to think of it:

Eknath was put out of caste and once his poems were publicly sunk in the
river Godavari.

Who do we blame for this atrocity

MD.

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As usual in my opinion: a reasonable tangent.
Nothing we receive to include the Self can diminish the infinite stores of
love and wisdom.
From Eknath Easwaran's Purna (Full) in 1000 names of Visnhu.
By St.Teresa
Nada te turbe,
Nada te espante
Todo se pasa.
Dios no se mua
La pacienza
Todo lo alcanza.
Quien a Dios tiene
Nada le falta.
Solo Dios basta.
Let nothing upset you;
Let nothing frighten you.
Everything is changing;
God alone is changeless.
Patience attains the goal.
Who has God lacks nothing,
God alone fills all his needs.
Btw, it is amazing to see and be a part of the youth at Taiz? sing a version
of the above (in tandem with various Alleluia's, the Magnificat/s, B?nissez
le Seigneur, Bless the Lord, etc. (Cluny
chantshttp

Re: [Goanet] Khristapurana, Brahman and Person: Essays by Richard De Smet

2010-05-23 Thread Ariosto Coelho
Thanks for the updates, Venantius!


Re: [Goanet] Khristapurana, Brahman and Person: Essays by Richard De Smet

2010-05-23 Thread Venantius J Pinto
You are welcome Ariosto. Besides, religion its an area I am very interested
in, other than sexuality and consciousness. The latter two are hardly
entertained on Goanet. Intelligent automatons anyone?!

Anway, its more than I could ask for considering that I rarely receive a
comment on my other posts, or for that matter simple questions. Guess they
are silly or abusive or everything in between. Bwahahahahahahahahaha.

Btw, Ivo will be in the US next month.

Best. Hi to V.

venantius j pinto

From: Ariosto Coelho ariostocoe...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [Goanet] Khristapurana,Brahman and Person: Essays by
Richard De Smet

 Thanks for the updates, Venantius!