Re: [Goanet] Elvis Goes troupe to be Goa's contribution to the Guinness record attempt.
Dears, Oops! the slip is showing! While all other details in my earlier posting are correct as per the Mandd Sobhann website http://www.kalaangann.com/ the existing record is 36 Hours [one and half day] and the Mandd Sobhann is getting set to break it with 40 hours of Konkani Nirantari. The unwitting carry forward of a typing error is regretted. If you love to hear Konkani songs and see a non-stop performance, book a ticket to Mangalore for 25 January, 2008 and book a hotel room for that night right now. With 1,200 singers descending on the town of Mangalore that night, it may be like the first Christmas ..."No room at the inn" ! If you want to inscribe your name in stone at the venue, send crossed DD or Cheque for Rs.25,000/- or more to MANDD SOBHANN [R] payable at Mangalore. Contributions are exempt from Income Tax as per Section 80G of IT Act.Further details on website or contact 0091-824-2230489 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mog asundi. Miguel On Nov 10, 2007 12:56 AM, Miguel Braganza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dears, > > This story is enough to warm the cockles of one's heart on a cold winter's > night. Starting at the crack of dawn on India's 58th Republic Day, 42 groups > of Konknni singers [including Goa's famous Elvis Goes troupe] will attempt to > break the world record in Non-stop singing [Nirontari gayan] billed as > 'Konkani Nirantari' at Mangalore. Eric Ozario, who performed with his "Maand > Sobann" group at the Silver Jubilee celebrations of TSKK at Porvorim on 29 > March, 2007, and at Kala Academy, Panaji, for the "Tiatr Day" [ Watch the > JoeGoaUK video of "Rosalin Mhojea Mogachea" on YouTube] in April, will be > leading the effort from the front. > > Comunidade Evangelica Luterana,of Sao Paulo, Brazil, currently holds the > Guinness world record with 376 hours [15 days and 16 hours] of non-stop > singing . and Maand Sobann is attempting to break that record! > > Those of us who are proud to belong to this wonderful Aparant of the Konkan > Coast and doubly proud of our Mother Tongue, Konknni, will have reason to > triple that joy with the new Guinness world record with 377 hours or more of > Nirontori gayan. Elvis Goes is currently Goa's sole representative. Konknni > is Goa's official language. .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
[Goanet] Goa Needs a Thackeray-style protector
Goa Needs its own Thackeray After the existing and past collection of chors...read politicians has let down Goa so badly, Goa needed and badly needs a Thackeray-style protector who would protect the interests of NIZ GOENKARS, their language and its culture and land... If not by the middle of this century, like the tigers in India, NIZ GOENKARS in Goa will be a rare species... Rgards Cedric da Costa Dubai __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] FRANCIS DE TUEM - Coming to London, Muscat, Doha, Bahrain, Kuwait & Dubai
FRANCIS DE TUEM - Coming to London, Muscat, Doha, Bahrain, Kuwait & Dubai http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk11/1338177628/ clik on pic or link abv for bigger view Believe me or not, 3 years ago, I have never heard of this man FDT. I did go for some of the tiatr, during the last one year or so just to catch up with him, but he was not there (I think some directors use his name as a gimmick to pull some crowd). Now, I saw his performace in about 3-4 tiatr (mainly solos, duos, Trios etc), He is young, talented and all rounder or multifaced. When I watch him recently (his solo), he really brought tears into the entire packed audience. While thanking to the tiatr lovers for ther support, he said ' Sometimes, we perform 2-3 tiatr same day at diffrent places.. We often leave home early morning and get back home next early morning..Sometimes, it is very dangerous to travel all alone in the night or at odd hours.. If by chance, due to an accident or assaut ...even if I lose one of my limbs etc .. I promise, I will still be performing on stage (one legged)'. MHOJE PASSUN DOLLE DUKANI BHORLE Gulfies & UK Goans, you can request him to sing this song. It is really touching. It shows how much he loves the stage & Konkani. GULFACHEM VAREM is his new audio/CD which he is releasing in Gulf this month. FDT coming to Muscat, Doha, Bahrain, Kuwait & Dubai with the other artistes tiatr AXD see details here http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/message/3288 FDT coming to London Wembly in April next year. Wishing all the best to Francis de Tuem May all your dreams come true Watch him performing here.. or just log on www.youtube.com and search 'FrancisDeTuem' and it will give you at least 4 of his video clips. or click on here directly http://youtube.com/watch?v=nCh1kmkInRc http://youtube.com/watch?v=HhpiLdF-udk http://youtube.com/watch?v=a5K-ZQZj61s http://youtube.com/watch?v=qj_7Ks51lX0 http://youtube.com/watch?v=6qbI1cpSsL0 http://youtube.com/watch?v=iEDmI9JOhh8 http://youtube.com/watch?v=j2bhftKtovY FDT pic http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk11/1338177628/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa or http://is.rediff.com/profilevisitor.php?mem_id=48419 ___ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html
[Goanet] [ Goanet] Konknni Talkies: The Tom & Bhembre Sh
Mogall Sebastianv-Bab, You wrote: 1) Not a single manuscript in > Romi had been submitted to the GKA during all this > time; therefore, the question of rejecting Romi books > just did not arise. Comment: I worked long enough in Government and semi-government autonomous bodies to know how the system works. In the PWD, if one does not wish a particular contractor to bid there are some simple solutions 1. Disqualify his class [as for Romi writers] 2. Do not accept his application for tender form [concept of book] 3. Accept the application but not the completed tender [manuscript]. After that one can, WITH ALL HONESTY, say that the particular tender was never rejected because it was NEVER RECEIVED in the first place! I believe that the Goa Konkani Akademi is a semi-Government autonomous body manned by full-time government servants from the member-Secretary downwards. Others learn such tricks fast specially when convenient! Correct me if I am wrong. No need for you to give me the information. We already have the record, as is available under RTI. You bet there are gaps ...and they can be explained ;-) You wrote: (2) Some Romi stalwarts undertook > to write books but slept on the job. For instance, > one such worthy has been sleeping on "an anthology of > 101 tiatr songs" for well over 16 years! Comment: I am given to understand that both, you and your "sleeping" stalwart, are members of the GKA Executive Committee. Why do you not ask this question there? All the members are expected to exercise due diligence and have due accountability ...and perhaps even paid sitting fees... to do this work. The two of you have worked together on some book projects of GKA, too. So he is part of YOUR CAMP, too. Or do you want to deny it now? You wrote: Please make a > list of just TEN of the books which ACCORDING TO > YOUR CAMP would have merited the award, had the judges and their selection > been fair and unbiased. Comment: I will gladly do this for you if you can prove to me that the Kala Academy INVITED applications from Romi script writers of Konkani books during the period 1988 to 2005 as they did from 1972 to 1987 and now again in 2006-07. If you want to know the list just check the ISBN entries and the Official Gazette listing of books published in Goa under Book Registration Act. You could even get the information of books published in Konkani, year wise, under RTI from the Director of printing Press for just Rs.10/- . You are a member of the GKA Executive Committee, writer, author and reader of Konkani written in Romi script [NOT "Romi Konkani" as some want to misrepresent it now a days. Dr. Manohar Rai Sardessai wrote the same Konkani in both the scripts. So do others who know more than one script ...though some may write in different contexts to suit their target readership.] You can judge the books for yourself. Use the "Bangarsal" as a reference of the lowest standard for your selection. Plagiarism is not a healthy thing for what is claimed as original writing. Some leading light ... or was it Jyoti ?? ... was known to do such a thing in Konkani written in Devanagri a few years ago. there will be quite a few books that would meet the mark. Many Romi titles in Konkani have sold more copies than their Devanagri contemporaries. May be we should ask D'Pietro's Janya Celi to do some detective work for you. The adage in Konkani: "Dhankloli mutth sovai lakhachi." is right. ...ani tapot marcheakin mutth marlea bori. Mog asundi. Miguel On Nov 9, 2007 8:09 PM, Sebastian Borges <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mogall Miguel-bab > I shall leave what you say about me for another day > because I feel it is not important at the moment. So > let me come straight to the point. You say, << …. actually part of the syndicate that has >denied Konknni books in Romi lipi even a single award of >Sahitya Puroskar for a > DECADE since 1988. Do not tell me that Devanagri > Konknni books were > consistently found superior ...or that Adv. Uday > Bhembre or the other > Rats cannot read and understand Romi enough to > discover the > superiority of these books.>> > > My response: > This "cry wolf" story has been heard / read too often. > At one time it was claimed that the Goa Konkani > Akademi is meting out 'step-motherly treatment' and > doing injustice towards Romi writers by not assisting > the publication of their books as it does in the case > of Devanagari writers. And it sounded true, since the > GKA had not published any Romi book for a long time. > So everyone believed this to be the Gospel truth, > especially since it was told by Catholics (priests > included) for whom it is a sin to tell a lie. Nobody > bothered to check the truth behind this fact. I did. > And what did I find? (1) Not a single manuscript in > Romi had been submitted to the GKA during all this > time; therefore, the question of rejecting Romi books > just did not arise. (2) Some Romi stalwarts undertook > to write books but slept on the
Re: [Goanet] Goanet: Elvis Goes troupe to be Goa's contribution to the Guinness record attempt.
Elvis Goes troupe to be Goa's contribution to the Guinness record attempt. Thanks miguel, The video clips link are here.. http://youtube.com/watch?v=ul_5BAfPIao http://youtube.com/watch?v=Os2KuNExpHw http://youtube.com/watch?v=EuQAWm8N5D8 --- Miguel Braganza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dears, > > This story is enough to warm the cockles of one's heart on a cold winter's > night. Starting at the crack of dawn on India's 58th Republic Day, 42 groups > of Konknni singers [including Goa's famous Elvis Goes troupe] will attempt to > break the world record in Non-stop singing [Nirontari gayan] billed as > 'Konkani Nirantari' at Mangalore. Eric Ozario, who performed with his "Maand > Sobann" group at the Silver Jubilee celebrations of TSKK at Porvorim on 29 > March, 2007, and at Kala Academy, Panaji, for the "Tiatr Day" [ Watch the > JoeGoaUK video of "Rosalin Mhojea Mogachea" on YouTube] in April, will be > leading the effort from the front. [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa or http://is.rediff.com/profilevisitor.php?mem_id=48419 ___ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html
[Goanet] Fwd: [Gulf Goans] In deep Sympathy......
From: sylvester vaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Nov 10, 2007 10:56 AM Subject: [Gulf Goans] In deep Sympathy.. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], We are deeply shocked and stunned at the sad and untimely demise of our friend and co-Tiatrist Sanny Vaz (Sanny de Quepem), on 9 th Nov.2007 in Kuwait. "Kal tum amche modem aslo, aiz tum sasnank nam zalo!" May God grant his soul eternal rest and give his family the strength and the courage to bear this irreparable loss In deep sympathy, Sylvester, Irene & Jeremiah Vaz Kuwait
[Goanet] FlaSH De BanANA ? ;-) Looking for Padma Stree!
[Goanet] Flash Banana ratna Frederick [FN] Noronha * fredericknoronha at gmail.com wrote: Fri Nov 9 01:04:44 PST 2007 Sub: [Goanet] Flash Banana ratna Cecil Pinto awarded Banana Ratna by the Banana Republic of Moira. .. The lotus [Salkam] failed to bloom in South Goa last month inspite of inputs from a Divaddkar and so the Padma [lotus] has not favour among the Moidekars. After burning the Narkasur, they decided to celebrate Diwali with Kingfisher Lite and award Haldonkar [the Plough man] the Banana Ratna to plough his lonely furrow, grow Haldoncheo mirsango and harvest the whirlwind that is building up on the banks of the River Chapora. Welcome Banana Rotten... oops! Ratan Cecil Pinto of Gott-koi, Haldona, world famous all over Goa! I hear that Parra villagers want to award his "Better half" the "Kalingann Ratna" at the Melon Nite this Summer. Even Ashoka made peace after the Kalinga war ;-) So why not our own dear Rambo do likewise? Mog asundi. Miguel -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
Re: [Goanet] Fwd: [Gulf Goans] In deep Sympathy......
On 10/11/2007, D'Souza, Avelino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: sylvester vaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Nov 10, 2007 10:56 AM > Subject: [Gulf Goans] In deep Sympathy.. > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > We are deeply shocked and stunned at the sad and untimely demise of our > friend and co-Tiatrist Sanny Vaz (Sanny de Quepem), on 9 th Nov.2007 in > Kuwait. > > "Kal tum amche modem aslo, aiz tum sasnank nam zalo!" > > May God grant his soul eternal rest and give his family the strength and the > courage to bear this irreparable loss > > In deep sympathy, > Sylvester, Irene & Jeremiah Vaz > Kuwait RESPONSE: May his soul R.I.P. he has posted his last emails on here, just yesterday. We shall miss his postings on this and other sites. -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
Re: [Goanet] "Goa - Only for Non-Goans"
Eddie Fernandes wrote: > Folks, Visit the Rajan P. Parrikar home page at http://www.parrikar.org/ > quickly > before he changes it ... > You are even invited to click on the image to enlarge it ... > Is it not a case of Fawning over Foreigners? > Eddie Fernandes == To be fair to Rajan, the answer is no. That is only fawning over power (and don't miss the look of love in Rajan's eyes!) We fawn over many things in life. Power, money, gender, youth, real estate, things, people, fame, notoriety, by-lines, whatever... I also think Rajan should allow those people fawning over money (and wanting to rent their houses to foreigners only) to have the right to do so :-) Taking the debate further, can we blame the mundkar laws in Goa for Goans not wanting to rent out to fellow Goans? Just back from Mumbai, where urban planners and others were talking about the real world impact of the delay in ending bizarre urban rent control laws in the city. While tenants do need some protection, laws which are made to advance the arbitrary powers of the political class and the bureaucracy need questioning too. FN -- Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org Ph 0091-832-2409490 12000+ downloadable, sharable hi-res photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/
Re: [Goanet] Flash ....Banana ratna, Bal Thackeray of Goa etc
On 10/11/2007, JoeGoaUk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear FN, > > Re: Flash Banana ratna > > What is this? > Group membership drive? > > When clicked on the link provided by you (see below), it says 'for members > only' and one can join the group by 'invitation ony' > > I think you are lucky, although you are not in GN admin now (so u keep > saying), > you still enjoy GNs privileges like.. unmoderated & instant postings etc (some > people had to wait for more than 24hrs to see their posts on GN). RESPONSE: I certainly empathise with you; I have complained about, the sometimes inordinate delay, in postings. One of us is now dead and gone and his postings are still coming through and maybe some pending ! -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet] Adding to the Goabulary
Whatever happens, I think Goanet is going to add to the already-rich vocabulary in which Goa is thought of and described. Some terms I recall from this cyberspace: * The Banana Republic: Principal Tony de Sa's description of his village, Moira (also called the Village of Wise Fools by I-forget-who ... was it Teo?). * Gonadians, though it would have been this hack's claim to fame (in the history section, it's clear who first posted this first on one of the top-ten most visited sites in the world, never mind if it wasn't my own original idea) ... but now it is declared orphaned! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonadians After all, "you can help Wikipedia change the world!" * Lusostalgia: Patrice Reimens' Dutch bias showing while describing the saudades about the "good ol days" among a certain generation of Goans. FN -- Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org Ph 0091-832-2409490 12000+ downloadable, sharable hi-res photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/
[Goanet] Sanny de Quepem No More
The Chairman, President and the Managing Committiee of Goan Cultural Centre-Kuwait deeply mourn the sad desmise of our beloved Friend, Konkani Artiste and one of the Goa-world moderator Mr.Sunny de Quepem on 9th November, 2007 in Kuwait. May hos soul rest in peace.
Re: [Goanet] Flash ....Banana ratna, Bal Thackeray of Goa etc
instead of cursing the darkness, and those guys slogging it out thanklessly (particularly Bosco and Avelino) why not you who are still alive volunteer to help wirh the moderation? Don't tell me to put my money where my mouth is, because I've done it for 11 years and know it to be a pretty thankless job.FN On 10/11/2007, Gabe Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > RESPONSE: I certainly empathise with you; I have complained about, the > sometimes inordinate delay, in postings. One of us is now dead and > gone and his postings are still coming through and maybe some pending -- Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org Ph 0091-832-2409490 12000+ downloadable, sharable hi-res photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/
[Goanet] Seven Indian workers feared killed in Dubai mishap
Let´s pray for our unfortunate brothers, those who have perished and the survivors fighting for their lives and their near and dear ones in horrendous misery. Kindly inform from Goa if any of our Gaum-bhav among the luckless. Alfred de Tavares Seven Indian workers feared killed in Dubai mishapBy Aroonim Bhuyan Dubai, Nov 9 (IANS) At least seven construction workers, feared to be all Indians, were killed and 24 others injured when a bridge under construction in the Dubai Marina area here collapsed Thursday evening. The incident occurred when a crane hit the bridge under construction near the Dubai Marina seafront locality, marked by highrise residential and commercial buildings."Seven workers died in the incident," an official of the Indian mission here told IANS Thursday night."Twentyfour others were injured and admitted to the Rashid Hospital."Asked if all the deceased were Indians, he said, "The hospital is yet to confirm the nationalities of all those deceased."According to local television reports, around 40 Indian workers were on the bridge when the incident occurred.The Indian mission official said, the contracting company, which employed the workers, has promised compensation to the next of kin of all those who have died."It's a respectable local company and it has promised compensation to the families of all those deceased," he said."Engineers are at the site and are inspecting the situation," the Al Jazeera television network quoted Jamal al-Marri, deputy police chief, as saying.Indo-Asian News Service _ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-us&source=wlmailtagline
Re: [Goanet] Goa Needs a Thackeray-style protector
& unlike tigers, may they live long & their tribe multiply, NG-kars are, & will always remain, an unprotected species... AdeT > Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 23:19:52 -0800> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: > goanet@lists.goanet.org> Subject: [Goanet] Goa Needs a Thackeray-style > protector> > Goa Needs its own Thackeray> > After the existing and past > collection of chors...read politicians has let down Goa so badly, Goa needed > and badly needs a Thackeray-style protector who would protect the interests > of NIZ GOENKARS, their language and its culture and land...> > If not by the > middle of this century, like the tigers in India, NIZ GOENKARS in Goa will be > a rare species...> > Rgards> Cedric da Costa> Dubai _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx
[Goanet] Condolences
The Managing Committee of AVC- Kuwait deeply regrets the passing away of a dear friend and well known Konkani stage artiste Mr. Sanny de Quepem in Kuwait on 9th November 2007. May the Lord give courage and comfort to the bereaved family at this time of tragic moment and may his soul rest in peace in comfort with the Lord. Adieus comrade, we will all miss you. In grief, Xavier Furtado & colleagues AVC - Kuwait
Re: [Goanet] Sanny de Quepem......... we will miss you,
I have only just this year joined Goanet but found Sanny's posts & his input only just for this year, enlightening & sometimes sad, sometimes funny, sometimes quirky, something for every occasion. May his soul be at peace & may his family find comfort in knowing that not just in real life but also here in cyberspace, he moved a lot of peoples' lives, (sometimes) in directions we did not want to go, (sometimes) not want to know but once engrossed in it, we were better informed for it. Thank you Sanny for being here, there and everywhere. John Monteiro 10.011.07..12.23hrs (UK time) Gabe Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote = On 10/11/2007, D'Souza, Avelino wrote: In deep Sympathy..To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], = We are deeply shocked and stunned at the sad and untimely demise of our friend and co-Tiatrist Sanny Vaz (Sanny de Quepem), on 9 th Nov.2007 in Kuwait. "Kal tum amche modem aslo, aiz tum sasnank nam zalo!" May God grant his soul eternal rest and give his family the strength and the courage to bear this irreparable loss. In deep sympathy, Sylvester, Irene & Jeremiah Vaz, Kuwait RESPONSE: May his soul R.I.P. he has posted his last emails on here, just yesterday. We shall miss his postings on this and other sites. DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
Re: [Goanet] Flash ....Banana ratna
Its a pity, I was not able to access this website, as its dedicated only to people from Moira Bardez North Goa only. Perhaps someone can paste and post it on this forum? John Monteiro 10.11.07...12,50hrs (UK) "Frederick [FN] Noron ha * फà¥à¤°à¥à¤¡ रिठन à¥à¤°à¥à¤à¤¯à¤¾" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Cecil Pinto awarded Banana Ratna by the Banana Republic of Moira http://groups.google.com/group/moira-net
[Goanet] Porrikar should apologise to Goans for BJPs Crimes
Porrikar should apologise to Goans for BJPs crimes A lot has been said and written on Goanet and the Goan media about Porikar and how the BJP zealots ran amuck creating all sorts of violence and trying to change the secular fragment of Goa under the desperate dictatorship rule of Porrikar and his cohort no 1 Digamber kamat. I agree with all who say, Digamber wearing the congress hat does not change the BJP blood that runs in his veins, who knows, if the ship is sinking one day, Digamber Kamat may as well return back to his communial and patrons in the BJP... All said and done, if Porrikar is the saviour that he is and really interested in the welfare of the Goenkar why is he not issuing a public apology on behalf of his party to Goans, apologising for the sins committed by the BJP and himself on Goa and Goans during its rule? Porrikar is a thick skinned and loud mouthed politicianan apology to the public in the press would make his a real politician... There are many who have written to me in the past and even called me personally from Goa asking me to give a call to porrikar and speak to him personally and know he is a good human being...I do not doubt that for a second, but i would not waste my time and money on losers like Porrikar who should be shunted out of Goan politics for good, as the likes of Digamber and Porrikar are responsible for trying to turn Goa into a communial state and spoil its secularism. Regards Cedric da Costa\\ Dubai __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] In deep Sympathy......
We are deeply shocked and stunned at the sad and untimely demise of our friend and co-Tiatrist Sanny Vaz (Sanny de Quepem), on 9th Nov.2007 in Kuwait. Kal tum amche modem aslo, aiz tum sasnank nam zalo! May God grant his soul eternal rest and give his family the strength and the courage to bear this irreparable loss In deep sympathy, Sylvester, Irene & Jeremiah Vaz Kuwait __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Flash ....Banana ratna, Bal Thackeray of Goa etc
Hi JoeGoaUK, Not just that, but when things go wrong, or I write badly, I can even blame the moderators for their speedy approvals :-) Yeah, it's a desperate group membership drive. The correct URL is http://groups.google.com/group/moira-net Hope the admin will let me slip this past this time too. But then, this is Moira! All people with Banana Republic citizenship are welcome to join. (Don't ask me how I'm qualified to run it, but I'm awaiting a coup soon.) But don't forget, citizenship here and green banana cards are available by marriage, by residence, or by stashing away unquestioned wealth in the banks of Moira, as Switzerland allows. Theoretically, even Ceilna Jaitley could be part of Moira-Net. That she might find the sense of humour totally incomprehendible is another matter Coming to Rajan Parriak... I love Rajan Parrikar's photos and his understanding of Hindustani music. I hate his chauvinism and shrill campaigns against the poor migrant, paan wallah, security guard, et al. Does he know what possible games the Rahejas' Outlook might be upto when it plays up and highlights as its cover story the "Russian mafia" in Morjim? (Usually, I read Outlook with respect.) I went overboard with the "Bal Thackeray" bit just to give Rajan a hint of how his own sloganeering sounds. Otherwise, in real life, he can be a fine person. On Goan, two definitions below. About as narrow and restricted as Rajan's. go·a (g) n. A gazelle (Procapra picticaudata) native to Tibet and having backward-curving horns in the male. [Tibetan dgoba.] http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Goan 1. Goan 24 up, 4 down n. Someone from or originating from Goa, a state of india comprising of beautiful women, beaches, and landscape. Once a portugese colony this unique place is where many europeans find it suffice to spend a years salary going to the beaches and doing drugs and partying. That is a part of Goa's economy. 1. Colin is a Goan. 2. Those indians are catholic, they have portugese last names and some of them are very fair. They must be Goan. 3. Wow shes a beaufitul indian girl she must be goan. 4. Wow this beach is so nice, and the sunset is breath taking. I feel like such a goan right now. by CoconutColin Toronto Jun 19, 2005 email it 2. goan 25 up, 15 down to go and Goan Your Self by anonymous Jun 20, 2003 email it 3. Goan 12 up, 3 down A person originating from Goa, India. See Goa. See that Indian kid, hes Goan and is partly Portuguese. tags goa india indian desi portguese by tdotdesi Toronto, Canada Aug 12, 2006 email it http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=goan My definition, far from accurate, tries to be more inclusivist. After all, Adam and Eve even weren't Goans. So Goan, n: Anyone who identifies with Goa and has the interest of the region of the place and her people at heart. Regardless of ethnicity, caste, community, gender, or racial differences. This category has no easy correspondence with accidents of history or even the logic of Portuguese conquests and land deals or treaties made with local rulers and their feudatories in past centuries. FN On 10/11/2007, JoeGoaUk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear FN, > Re: Flash Banana ratna > What is this? > Group membership drive? > When clicked on the link provided by you (see below), it says 'for members > only' and one can join the group by 'invitation ony' > I think you are lucky, although you are not in GN admin now (so u keep > saying), > you still enjoy GNs privileges like.. unmoderated & instant postings etc (some > people had to wait for more than 24hrs to see their posts on GN). > Re: Bal Thackeray of Goa > they say.. > Pen is mighter than sword > A picture is worth one thousand words > Some people like to express their love for Goa in their own way. > Again, there are not that many who would walk their talk > Let us not discourge them. > Let's keep personal things personal. > So, have a break!! > Have a Kit-Kat!!! > HW: Please define 'Goan' in your own words. -- Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org Ph 0091-832-2409490 12000+ downloadable, sharable hi-res photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/
Re: [Goanet] Flash ....Banana ratna, Bal Thackeray of Goa etc
On 10/11/2007, Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोंया <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > instead of cursing the darkness, and those guys slogging it out > thanklessly (particularly Bosco and Avelino) why not you who are still > alive volunteer to help wirh the moderation? Don't tell me to put my > money where my mouth is, because I've done it for 11 years and know it > to be a pretty thankless job.FN RESPONSE: I have volunteered, my services have been rejected - so before you shoot your mouth once again, do not draw conclusions ! It seems to be that you are getting a bit wonky in your old age ? -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet] Manohar Parrikar - Response to Cedrico
From: Vidyadhar Gadgil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Vodyadhar wrote - But who is talking of BJP supporters or those who voted for them? The point is the party itself. That is no different from what it is in the rest of India. If they are different, let the BJP (Goa version) give a public statement condemning Narendra Modi and asking for action to be taken against all those responsible for the Gujarat carnage. Response - How conveniently are you forgetting the fact of 23 years back genocide of Sikhs which took place in November 1984 in which more than 4,000 Sikh men, women and children slaughtered by Congress hooligans. In Delhi alone, 2,733 Sikhs were burned alive, butchered or beaten to death. Women were raped while their terrified families pleaded for mercy, little or none of which was shown by the Congress flag-bearers. For three days and nights the killing and pillaging continued without the police, the civil administration and the Union Congress Government who was in power , which was then in direct charge of Delhi, lifting a finger in admonishment. It was the Congress cadres who were behind this genocide. Despite the constitution of innumerable high-power committees, police investigation teams and commissions these are few small fries who have been booked; the real culprits are still eluding the call of justice. The reality is that there has been no political will to prosecute the culprits. Did any Goa Congress leader condemn these killings ? Vidyadhar wrote – What is this "your people" and "my people" business? Here precisely is the problem with the Sangh Parivar -- the inability to think beyond communal identities. Response - You are grossly misinterpreting my sentence. My word ,”your people” meant people of your constituency. Don’t apply your own whimsical meanings to everything. I know Margao is a Hindu majority constituency. So there is no question of communal trail in my script. Vinay __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Horror in Paithona
To Goanet - I have been taking morning drives through Goan villages these past few days. Today I came upon this heinous sight in Paithona - a large wooded area cleared for pouring concrete - http://www.parrikar.org/images/samples/paithona-horror-01.jpg http://www.parrikar.org/images/samples/paithona-horror-02.jpg This violence has effectively finished off the serene, beautiful village of Paithona, and the assassins are Chowgule Real Estate & Constructions. Go to - http://www.crecgoa.com/meadows/index.html Soon Sharma-ji, Mrs Taneja, Mr Sabharwal and their brood will be strutting around in Paithona. Now if only those Goan pests who have been living there for ages would get lost. I talked to some of the villagers. Apparently the Panchayat honchos sold out for 5 lakhs rupees and that orders also came "from above." This project has "illegal" written all over it. In the woods right opposite the Chowgule atrocity you see this ominous sign - http://www.parrikar.org/images/samples/paithona-horror-03.jpg I have said this before: saving Goa is an unequal fight, between part-time do-gooders and full-time criminals. By the time the claque of poseurs comprising the Task Force for RP 2021 finishes its charade there won't be much left to save. I don't know why I even bother posting these pictures anymore. Warm regards, r ps: Aldeia de Goa has advertisements on the front page of Navhind Times today. pps: Villas for "NRIs Only" soon coming up at Dona Paula. ppps: Dear Goans, get ready for that jump en masse into the Arabian Sea.
[Goanet] Indian Cultural practices
Hi Cornel, After a few lines, I stopped reading your post. If you have any class, you would first apologize to Goan Catholics for your statement: "Unfortunately, this made them half-baked Hindus and half-baked Catholics --- an unfortunate and sad legacy to this day. " It would appear that you are ignorant of the many pious Goan men and women, including nuns and priests. Among them are two recognized near-saints - Blessed Joseph Vaz (Patron of Goa and Apostle of Sri Lanka) and Venerable Agnelo de Souza. Yet beyond my dismay at your less than intelligent (being polite) comments, I should continue my dialogue with Goanetters on the cultural differences among Goa's populace during the 16th to 19th centuries. Goan society was / is very unique in my perspective. The Goan Catholics combined a Western religion with Eastern cultural Practices. The Goan Hindu (like other Hindus who interacted with the British) combined an Indian religion with a western lifestyle. Combining a Western (Roman Catholic) religion with Eastern cultural practices very likely baffled the Europeans. I am not defending their puzzlement nor attacking it. I am merely writing this to state and explain the confusing perceptions between the two groups. Today, in spite of widespread knowledge and education, we in the healthcare field (in our hospital) have to go through cross-cultural training to care for and understand the different immigrant groups to our area. Some of the Indian cultural practices of the 16th -19th century that were 'foreign and strange' to Europeans likely were: 1. Extended and Joint family systems. 2. Caste practices, other social segregation and discrimination. 3. Arranged marriages with occasional betrothal at birth and sometimes before birth. 4. Child marriages (girls and boys). 5. Educational and other disparities between sexes. 6. Strong reverence to and roles of deceased ancestors. 7. Strong attachment to past and perhaps irrelevant social practices. 8. Strong beliefs in superstitions, myths and legends. 9. Native approaches to healthcare and use of herbal remedies. 10. Hygienic practices including during monthly cycles. 11. Dress codes including wearing the loin cloth. 12. Native religious rituals and beliefs. In our cross-cultural training program, the following was the definition of Societal Culture - The integration of patterns of human behavior that includes language, thoughts, communications, behaviors, customs, mores, beliefs, values and institutions of different racial, ethnic, religious and / or social groups. Regards, GL CORNEL DACOSTA: Just a short reply to avoid both of us going endlessly round in circles.
[Goanet] Sanny Vaz - Uprant mellche! An obit!
Sanny Vaz – Obituary I was shocked to hear the news of the sudden passing away of our friend and Niz Goenkar Bab Sanny Vaz in Kuwait. At first I thought someone in his family died and I at once thought of emailing him and comfort him. But when I read the post slowly in detail, it struck me as a lightning that it was Sanny himself who left us suddenly. I pray to God that Sanny finds himself in the heavenly abode that people like him have a God-given right to. Today is not the day to grieve his death so much as to celebrate his life, his achievements and the legacy he left behind for Goa and Goans, especially for Konkani and Tiatro and Goan music. His classic Konkani CD “Saibinnicho Tisro Segred” will always be remembered as his gifted testament to the Konkani music lovers all over. I had just emailed Sanny a month ago and we were always in touch. Now who will I email in heaven? Is there such a thing as a heaven.com website? No one knows what is going to happen to us tomorrow. I always think of this myself too. What will happen to me if I die? Will any of my friends in cyberspace know about it, since they only know me by my nickname? This world or this life is a real “fokandd” or rather a virtual one. Sanny, today I am sure you are in the company of great Goans in heaven, up there in the great company of other Tiatrists or singers or great composers like you. I have heard many songs composed by you and sung here in our Toronto Tiatros. In your obituary I noted that you were born in Osnimaddem, Cuncolim. I remember this ward of Cuncolim, just next to the church across the field next to the historic Chapel of St. Francis Xavier, where the mortal remains of the Martyrs of Cuncolim were thrown in the well. I remember the river that runs through Osnimaddem/Biunsa, which we used to cross bare-feet when we walked some 10 kilometers all the way to Murida to watch Summer Soccer Tournament games in those days (fifties). Another grandson of this Osnimaddem ward Of Cuncolim was the celebrated cross-dresser Tiatrist/Director Christopher of Chris-Meena fame, who also left us years ago. I am sure today in New Jersey for the Tiatro "Adeus" , they will salute you for your significant contribution to the Konkani stage and all the other things that you did for Goa , Konkani and Goan welfare. Sanny-Bab, uprant mellche! Silviano Barbosa Cuncolim-Toronto November 10, 2007 _ Are you ready for Windows Live Messenger Beta 8.5 ? Get the latest for free today! http://entertainment.sympatico.msn.ca/WindowsLiveMessenger
Re: [Goanet] "Goa - Only for Non-Goans"
From the feedback I have received on this issue, most seem to have missed my point. By "Foreigners Only" what he really means is "Whites Only." The landlord has every right to set criteria for admittance of tenants. My only problem is that the sign did not say "Goans Only." As I have said before, I am a Goan chauvinist and "Goans Only" would be consistent with my credo. Warm regards, r
[Goanet] Porrikar should apologise to Goans for BJPs Crimes
"There are many who have written to me in the past and even called me personally from Goa asking me to give a call to porrikar and speak to him personally and know he is a good human being" --- A good human being would not have introduced and nurtured RSS hate ideology in Goa. No one except a liking for a loser wants to talk about him again and again on Goanet. We the sane and understanding Goan community on Goanet are trying to educate these loser loving sect that hate mongers in sheep's clothing are NOT worth talking to, and will not be tolerated by us. These 'mentally weak people' have been easily wood by this smooth talking rogue, that does not mean that means what he says. He may convince some weak minded people, not every one. ED. - For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit Yahoo! For Good this month.
Re: [Goanet] "Goa - Only for Non-Goans"
--- "Frederick [FN] Noron ha * फà¥à¤°à¥à¤¡ रिठन à¥à¤°à¥à¤à¤¯à¤¾" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Taking the debate further, can we blame the mundkar > laws in Goa for > Goans not wanting to rent out to fellow Goans? - For once I agree with FN :-), as I have already mentioned in my post on this topic. If we are continually creating inequality in our society by the absurdity of our laws and actions, then we cannot suddenly expect an equal and just society. I know of people, the nicest Goans one could come across, who rent only to "foreigners". We're old they say, we don't want any hassles, we don't have the time left in our lives to spend it at the court houses trying to evict people. How many times have flats been rented, never to be seen again. Even the so-called 11 month contract is hardly enforceable in the state of lawlessness that currently abounds. How many times have we heard of cases where tenants have had to be paid huge amounts of money to "vacate" from the premises. So let's not be indignant about things that are rotten on the face of it, when things are rotten at the very core of it. Merely expecting society to function in an ethical fashion without giving it the judicial support and structure to do so, results in chaos. selma selma __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Sanny de Quepem......... we will miss you,
--- JOHN MONTEIRO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have only just this year joined Goanet but found > Sanny's posts & his input only just for this year, > enlightening & sometimes sad, sometimes funny, > sometimes quirky, something for every occasion. > -- We will definitely miss Sanny. All this time I did not even know he was a tiatrist and I can't believe he is no more. Why do we human beings leave so much left unsaid to our fellow-humans? Does anyone know of the tragic circumstances that took him from our midst? selma __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Flash ....Banana ratna
I'm sorry, the settings of the group have been changed. Check the archives. FN On 10/11/2007, JOHN MONTEIRO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Its a pity, I was not able to access this website, as its dedicated only to > people from Moira Bardez North Goa only. > > Perhaps someone can paste and post it on this forum? > > John Monteiro > 10.11.07...12,50hrs (UK) > > "Frederick [FN] Noron ha * फ्रेड रिक न ोरोंया" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cecil Pinto awarded Banana Ratna by the Banana Republic of Moira > http://groups.google.com/group/moira-net -- Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org Ph 0091-832-2409490 12000+ downloadable, sharable hi-res photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/
Re: [Goanet] "Goa - Only for Non-Goans"
So it's not discrimination you're opposed to, but just making a noise because the discrimination doesn't benefit you? Hardly the type of cause I would bother to waste my energies on :-) FN On 10/11/2007, Rajan P. Parrikar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >From the feedback I have received on this > issue, most seem to have missed my point. > > By "Foreigners Only" what he really means > is "Whites Only." The landlord has every > right to set criteria for admittance of tenants. > My only problem is that the sign did not > say "Goans Only." As I have said before, > I am a Goan chauvinist and "Goans Only" > would be consistent with my credo. > > Warm regards, -- Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org Ph 0091-832-2409490 12000+ downloadable, sharable hi-res photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/
Re: [Goanet] In deep Sympathy......
I am quite stunned too, to see a post timed at 1.21 am on my computer and then to see the death announcement of SdeQ a few hours later. SdeQ was lately a very prolific poster on Goanet. I wish his family and those he left behind, my condolences. Roland. On Nov 10, 2007 2:56 AM, sylvester vaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We are deeply shocked and stunned at the sad and untimely demise of our > friend and co-Tiatrist Sanny Vaz (Sanny de Quepem), on 9th Nov.2007 in > Kuwait. > > > "Kal tum amche modem aslo, aiz tum sasnank nam zalo!" > > May God grant his soul eternal rest and give his family the strength and > the courage to bear this irreparable loss > > In deep sympathy, > Sylvester, Irene & Jeremiah Vaz > Kuwait
Re: [Goanet] "Goa - Only for Non-Goans........whites included, but under duress"
I suppose I have lived in England too long & have missed the point in many of the posts on this subject, maybe not by accident, just by not acknowleding my mistake of NOT KNOWING what is going on in Goa these days, shame on me! I do not like it when owners of property set this type of criteria for renting out property, they should NOT say "foreigners only" in large print on the pathway, this is absolutely unacceptable in my opinion. The need for good tenants is not just a Goan problem, it happens all over the world. The fact that a foreigners (or White Europeans is what was meant by the sign, that I did pick up in posts here) is probably more likely to leave the property at a given time (visa issues etc) and is therefore guaranteed to have his property returned to him in a better state than if it was rented to non-whites (Goans included) then I still feel this is wrong, in my bones it says that we have discrimination here, and I do not feel comfortable with this "black/white" "brown/white" "mixed race" issue we have not dealt with in our midst. There are some purists out there, who are NOT racist who would put their countrymen / women first and would expect a hefty deposit up front if in doubt about any rent law issues, with a contract (and references, guarantees from banks etc) to state that a regular inspection of the property will be undertaken, say every 3 or 4 months by which time, if any issues come to light, then this will be resolved by the tenant etc. I dont wish to cover every ill in a contract but wear and tear is one thing, deliberate acts of vandalism is not acceptable. All this & any costs will be covered in the high rents charged, if no issues or vandalism then there is the RETURN of the deposit at the end period. But in reality, I understand you cannot cross every T or dot every I, this is the chance you take whether you rent to a Goan, an Indian (yes there is a difference but I do not wish to get any hackles up here), or to a European / white. Equality is something that may take time to come into play here, but it wont be in my lifetime, perhaps in my daughters' lifetimes it may do so, there are laws to abide by, but sometimes the law is a ass, which does not bode well when most of the law makers and those who are supposed to support the law & the citizens of Goa, are themselves rather corrupt, not only some of the politicians and police but those in-between I take everyone's point and opinion on this subject very seriously, everyone has expressed themselves very well on this subject, but can we REALLY allow signs like to be displayed PUBLICLY on someone's footpath? Next we will see it in newspapers and magazines, on the tv, and so forth. No, tear down this sign the next time you see it displayed, anywhere, complain & write letters to newspapers and such like, dont accept this sitting down, stand up for your rights, you are human, we are all human and ought to be treated as such! When the Nazis came to power in the 1930's, there was much ignorance of what was going on, Germany was in the grips of high inflation, high unemployment & only the "rich" were able to get the best food, the best clothes & petrol for their cars, the Nazis started to blame everyone but bad goverment for the cause of this, slowly they removed the minorities, because it did not effect or affect the majority, firstly they got rid of the Communists, no one complained, then they got rid of homosexuals, nobody complained, then they got rid of the Jews, nobody complained, then it was the turn of the neighbours, they were too high class, nobody complained, they took away members of German families, someone protested but it was too late, by this time, everyone in the world was against the "normal" man in the street, kill the Nazis, kill the Germans. Nazis yes, they were mostly all eradicated (not totally as we know from experiences) but why involve the poor old German people, surely they were innocents in this? Yes, to begin with they were, but when they knew what was happening in the gas chambers of various "concentration camps", the locals did nothing, they did not protest. After all, they were ok, they got free workers to farm the land, the benefits were too valuable for them, so they colluded with the Nazi authorities to eradicate their own peoples, and those of other countries whose hair, clothing, shoes and gold teeth fillings were helping the war effort against democracy. At what cost is Goa going to accept the first slap? Well they did take the first slap, they did not gain independence for themselves, Goa is a State of India, and now has to continually take slaps here and there. But when will Goans stop accepting insults? They have started already, and nobody is taking any notice, because it does not directly affect, effect anyone yet, but when they start to cement over villages, someo
[Goanet] Deepest Condolences to Sanny Vaz's family
John D'Souza, Moderator of Margao-Net is deeply saddened by the sudden passing away of Sanny Vaz in Kuwait. He was Margao-Net's most regular contributor. The Moderator and members of Margao-Net send their deepest sympathies and condolences to his family in Quepem. May his soul rest in peace and mat the good Lord grant unto him eternal life. Amen John D'Souza Moderator Margao-Net ___ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/
Re: [Goanet] "Goa - Only for Non-Goans"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Taking the debate further, can we blame the mundkar laws in Goa for Goans not wanting to rent out to fellow Goans? On 10/11/2007, Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: For once I agree with FN :-), as I have already mentioned in my post on this topic. If we are continually creating inequality in our society by the absurdity of our laws and actions, then we cannot suddenly expect an equal and just society. How many times have flats been rented, never to be seen again. Even the so-called 11 month contract is hardly enforceable in the state of lawlessness that currently abounds. == jc's response I remember the story which my friend Gajanan Sardessai (ex AIR) told me. He had allowed a chap from Kerala to stay in one room of his house for a few months so that he could settle in Goa and find his own place. That was some years ago. Wonder if Sunanda ever managed to get the chap out. I submit that this has nothing to do with the mundkar act. In the Mundkar Act (thank you Tai ...Thank you for nothing) land titles were taken away from owners and handed over (a la Zimbabwe and Cuba) to those who worked on the land BUT only after the MINES were excluded from this provision. Interesting stuff from the MGP (now BJP/Congress) And we are wondering why all this is happening now? Here are some questions to think about: 1: WHO owns the title to Dabolim Airport? 2: Who owns the title to the former Goa Medical College Hospital in Panjim 3: Who owns the title to the Old Goa churches and Mangeshi/Shantadurga temples? 4: Are the persons making decisions on the above properties - holders of the title? 5: Why was the Communidade system dismantled by Gen Candeth? I'd say this: Once we twist the laws to suit our political convenience - we should not be too upset at the chaos which follows. Chaps in certain 'western' places are finding that out ...and acting surprised! just my view jc http://www.colaco.net/1/GoaRentingOutNightmare.htm
[Goanet] Sanny de Quepem - Goanet will miss you!!
It was with shock and sadness that we learnt of the passing of Goanetter, Sanny de Quepem in Kuwait on November 9, 2007. He was a thorough Goenkar - born and bred in Goa. Living in Kuwait did not diminish his love for everything Goan. He promoted Konkani, Konkani Music and the tiatr. While very talented Sanny was a very humble and down-to-earth person. Tragically Sanny passed away the day before the Goan community in Kuwait had set out to celebrate GOA DAY 2007. In early 2006 Sanny released his first Music CD titled "Saibinnicho Tisro Segred". A review of the CD by Silviano Barbosa who himself produced a Konkani CD titled "Classic Goa" can be found at: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2006-February/039309.html A few months ago Sanny released his second music CD titled "NRI" - a tribute to Non Resident Indian Goans. Once again the CD was reviewed by Silviano Barbosa last month and can be found at: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2007-October/062796.html For an image of the CD cover: http://www.goanet.org/images/topics/Konkani/Music/Titles/NRI.jpg To hear Sanny de Quepem's melodious voice on the title track of the CD, NRI: http://www.goanet.org/images/topics/Konkani/Music/Titles/NRI.mp3 A profile of Sanny de Quepem by Gaspar Almedia can be found at: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2005-August/033237.html Sanny de Quepem will forever have a place in the galaxy of Goan stars of the Konkani stage and music world. We will miss him here at Goanet. So long our friend..Adeus tuca korta!! Bosco D'Mello http://www.goanet.org Where Goans Connect
[Goanet] Dukhachi Zhor Vhanvli "Dukham" Polletanam (Dedicated to my late friend Sanny de Quepem)
Ho mhozo lekh mhojea sompil'lea sorgest ixtt-ak omor ugddsak Dukhachi Zhor Vhanvli "Dukham" Polletanam Toddea vella adim tuje thaim hanson ani moskoreanim uloilolea monxachi eka zogllavnnea porim dukhest mornanchi khobor fona velean tujea kannar poddli zalear tuka kitlo xokk zatlo? Hat -payank kullkullo sunttlea virek ravchonam. Atanch aslolo monis atanch nam zata him chaltim utram khub pavtti hanvem aikolelim, punn tim khoreaninch hanvem onnbhovchim aslim mhonn mhoje ixtt ani bore dekhnnar Bab Cruz Sanny Vaz (Sanny de Quepem) hanchea okosmat kallzachea attakan zallea mornann hanvem chaklim mhonn vhodd dukhin sangun dista. Kalchea Sunkrarak Novembarachea 9ver 2007, don vorsam uprant porot ekdam Gõykarancho Ekvottachea bhautte khalla Goa Day Kuwait-an monovpan ailo. Tech disa donparchea vellar mhaka anek kodden amontron aslelem punn hanvem kaim dis fattim amchea familichea monxank Goa Day vochpachem utor dilelean bhov manadik monxam vangdda jevonn korcheak mhaka zomlem nam. Goa Day monovpachea zagear pavtoch amchea ganvchim bhav-bhoinnim bhettlim. Khub tempan ganvchi umollxokim gozali kortanam mhoje nodrek mhoje ixtt (atam sorgest) Sanny de Quepem disle ani poisuch ravun tannem mhaka zapoilo. Tachea hatant aslelea suit pollevn Goa Day sonskruttik khariavollin git ghaitolo mhonn, hem mhaka tachea fuddem vetoch gomlem. Zavn KD 5 vo KD 2 hem tikettichem dhoronn hanv pollenam. Kuwait-an konnacha-i tiatran, sonskruttik ani songit kharriavolinim hanv nheslam zalear hanvem novim kantaram gaileant, (To ek kantaram ghoddpi aslo) ani odik korun Goa Day-ak. Kiteak, amche iogdan Gõychea ekvottachea buneaddik veta dekhun. Kaim gavpi asat te Goa Day sonskruttik khariavolli vellar adim tiatran gailelim gitam gaitat. Hem nodrek dovorun tache thaim hanvem vicharlelem tedna tannem voili zap dileli ti azun meren protidhvoni (echo) zavn mhojea kannar sadovta. Kantaranim kosloi-i vixei ghevn Kuwait-che machier tannem git gailear tachem git tea disak hit zatalem. Ani hevui khepek Goa Day somoyar Ekvott Munxeakullacho hem zobordost kataran ekvottachem moll kitlem ghorjechem tem sangun dilem. Anik ek ghost tannem mhojea somor ugti keleli. Gõy sankun aille NRI-Goa komissionar vokil Eduardo Faleiro tea disacho manacho soiro aslolo. To ani yer Gõyche protinidhi, vosreant hajir astanam apleak git gavpachi khuxi mhonn, sonskruttik kharriavoll mandillea programant bodoll korun, nimnnea zagear aslem aple git voir dukholchem khatir khariavolliche prokolp sôyojok, (coordinator) haka vinonti kelli khoim. Punn toxem tem ghoddunk nam. Survatek chikar bhor lokan bhorlelea vosrean tachem git mhonnonk taka sond melllli nam ani oxen toren tachi nimnnim axea asli ti puru zavnk nam. Ghoddie aplem sonvsarantlem poinn lagim pavlam oxem taka poilench somzun aillem kai? Devuch zanam! Zannvayen bhorlelim ani orthabhorit kantaram Saibinicho Tisro Segred (2005) ani N.R.I. (2007) CD-cher aikunk melltat. Somazan zatleo chukeo, teo sudravncheak potttidkin aplea kantaranim sondhex divn to khubuch vavurla. Khub zannank lyrics by aplem nanv dinastanam kassetir vo CD-ir gavpak, ghoddun dileant. Monamcher porinam zata toslim okhondd borovpam internet-ar uzvaddak haddleant. Ani tea disa, taka adues korun hanv mhojea ghora portolom. Angar udik ghalun lhanxem jevonn ghetlea uprant Goa Day-k vimosonn (released) zalli Comedy Queen bai Qeurobina-chi Dukham VCD pollevnk boslom. VCD polletanam mhozo mobile vazlo. Bab Jacinto-cho fon aslo. Sanny-cho ghoxtt ixtt to. Thoddea vella adim ami Goa Day-k bhettleat, uloileat anik kosli goroz poddli kai haka? Oxem monantuch gunngunnun helo mhonnlem. Lino bab, Sanny somplo. Vhodd dukhi avazan tannem mhaka sanglem Mhozo svas (breath) kitloch vell bond zalo. Angachi lonv ubi zavn mhojem ang koddkoddunk laglem. Mhojem mon hi dukhi gozal svikar korpak kochench raji nam zalem. Nigtoch mhojea lagim uloilo monis dolle dampun sansnachi nid nidhlo? Atanch aslolo monis atanch nam? VCD-ir ghatleli Dukham film bond kortanam sorollponnin mhojea dolleantlean vilapun dukham vhanvunk laglim ani hanv kitloch vell toxoch urlom Lino B. Dourado Deva! Mhojea ixttak sorgincho visov divnk mhojim pranthnam tuje thaim Hanv ani Mhoje bhorobor Goa-world.com Team somplelea amchea ixttachea familik dukhest bhuzvonn ditat. http://www.goa-world.com/goa/poems http://www.mail-archive.com/cgi-bin/htsearch?config=gulf-goans_yahoogroups_com&restrict=&exclude=&words=Lino+B.+Dourado __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Dear Sanny de Quepem
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk11/1951051550/ if u cant see his pic, pl clik on abv. Dear Sanny de Quepem, I did not know about your tiatr work until I read an article on you (see a link below). I also saw you for the first time today -thanks to Sylvester Vaz I think I first met you on the Goanet somewhere in Sept 2005 in your article 'KHUIM MEVOT MOJEM BHURGHEPONN? to which I promptly responded see link below. http://lists.goanet.org/htdig.cgi/goanet-goanet.org/2005-September/034013.html Recently, you were so popular on the net (on various groups & goanet). Your catchy subject lines always made us to read your news and sometime with your comments on it. You were a true Konkani lover. Only yesterday you were there live and kicking but today left for heavenly abode. The killer massive cardiac arrest took you away almost instantly. Here is what your colleague Sylvester says.. Dear Joe, Tiatr fraternity in Kuwait is in deep shock at the sad passing away of our Tiatrist Friend Sanny de Quepem. FYI: he performed yesterday, along with us in the cultural Programme at the GOA DAY organised by Goa Welfare Society,Kuwait and sang a Konkani Solo. Later in the evening he developed complications and is believed to have suffered a massive heart attack and was declared dead at the Hospital. He was a good composer and singer and was a regular contributor on Net. We will miss him = Adieus, Sanny de Quepem May God grant you His eternal peace My heartfelt sympathies to your family your Part I & II on ...Bhurgheponn http://lists.goanet.org/htdig.cgi/goanet-goanet.org/2005-September/033983.html http://lists.goanet.org/htdig.cgi/goanet-goanet.org/2005-October/034637.html pl read more about SDQ http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2005-August/033237.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa or http://is.rediff.com/profilevisitor.php?mem_id=48419 ___ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html
[Goanet] Sanny de Quepem_stirred imagination
People, We have lost Sanny de Quepem, who stirred our imagination by his postings. I for one was blessed to read them and see his love for Konkani. As is said, "To live in the hearts (and minds) of those we leave behind (to include Goanetters) is not to die." But we do not control these journeys. What we can do is keep contributing towards understanding, in our own ways. Respectfully, venantius j pinto
[Goanet] Sanny De Quepem...Tumcho Khalto...May His Soul Rest in Peace!
Sanny de Quepem... God functions in his own strange ways... It was sad to learn that regular writer, Sanny de Quepem is no more with us...Surely the Goanet community has lost one of its most valuable, consistent and prolific writers. I highly value the time and effort this Goenkar devoted to the Goan cause...with his regular updates on GOA! I also appreciated and admired his sign off,...that read, ''tumcho khalto'! How humble...just like a true Goan! Ever since I made my debut on Goanet, Sanny had on various occassions through his mails on Goanet and personally, had supported me in my expose of politicians and for the fight for Goan causes. Dear Lord, please grant this khalto Goenkar bhau a place in your paradise... Also pray we find a fitting substitute/s to carry on the work he did for Goa!, specially the constant writings on GOANET! On behalf of the Goan community in Dubai, I wish to convey my heartfelt sympathies and deep prayers to the family of Sanny and also to his near and dear ones on Goanet/Quepem and Kuwait. Regards Cedric da Costa Dubai/UAE __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Re.: In deep sympathy/Sanny De Quepem
SDQ, we'll miss you! FR. ... >From: sylvester vaz : >Subject: [Goanet] In deep Sympathy.. >We are deeply shocked and stunned at the sad and >untimely demise of our friend and co-Tiatrist Sanny >Vaz (Sanny de Quepem), on 9th Nov.2007 in Kuwait. _ Have fun while connecting on Messenger! Click here to learn more. http://entertainment.sympatico.msn.ca/WindowsLiveMessenger
[Goanet] In deep Sympathy......
Many of us on Goanet, who were wont to avidly await Sanny's postings, will sorely miss him. I do. Sanny I pray that you find peace and a good deal to cover for us from up there. With deepest sympathy for Sanny's thus prematurely bereaved family, I pray that eternal rest be granted unto our friend and may the perpetual light shine upon him. May he, through the mercy of God rest in peace. Amen. No one has informed us how the tragedy occured; please do. Alfred de Tavares, Stockholm, 2007-11-10
[Goanet] Goa news for November 11, 2007
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** SRK to spice up Goa int\'l film festival - Hindustan Times [Nov 8, 2007] Bollywood King Shah Rukh Khan will be the chief guest at the International Film Festival of India (IFFI) 2007 that opens in Goa on November 23. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/0-0&fd=R&url=http://www.hindustantimes.com/Redir.aspx?ID=b60f146f-5e58-4425-b471-2be5bb8ca109&ParentID=2b448950-d108-468b-a5ad-8690decacc0d&cid=1123340501&ei=DE02R5bOEpGoqgOpur3NAg *** sezs most suitable form of industrial development for Goa, says ... - Navhind Times [Nov 7, 2007] The Goa Chamber of Commerce and Industry president, Mr Nitin Kuncolienkar today informally interacting with the media said that such type of sezs will house ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/9-0&fd=R&url=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=11087&cid=1123398823&ei=DE02R5bOEpGoqgOpur3NAg *** Asia Profile: India\'s Ryan Giggs - Clifford Miranda - Goal.com [Nov 9, 2007] Born in a small village in Goa, Clifford has turned out to be one of the best wingers India has produced in recent years and like Giggs has remained loyal ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/7-0&fd=R&url=http://goal.com/en-us/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=474797&cid=0&ei=DE02R5bOEpGoqgOpur3NAg *** To B or not to B at the Goa festival - Hindustan Times [Nov 5, 2007] Goa hosts its ten-day-long fourth IIFI come November 23. You know that.But our intrepid reporter has already sourced the news that the "possible presence" ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/8-0&fd=R&url=http://www.hindustantimes.com/Redir.aspx?ID=6730f7e1-e355-4403-b085-44ecb0a8fafd&cid=0&ei=DE02R5bOEpGoqgOpur3NAg *** Legal wrangles may haunt govt on sezs - Herald Publications [20 hours ago] BY HERALD REPORTER PANJIM, NOV 9” Chief Minister Digambar Kamat has just begun the process of reviewing sezs (Special Economic Zones) in Goa even as the ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/6-0&fd=R&url=http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=4038&cid=2&cid=0&ei=DE02R5bOEpGoqgOpur3NAg *** Rain plays spoilsport in Goa\'s \'Narakasur killing\' festival - DailyIndia.com [Nov 8, 2007] Margao (Goa), Nov 8: Rains played havoc in Goa's unique tradition of burning the effigies of demon Narakasur during Diwali withmost of the competitions ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/5-0&fd=R&url=http://www.dailyindia.com/show/189803.php/Rain-plays-spoilsport-in-Goas-Narakasur-killing-festival&cid=0&ei=DE02R5bOEpGoqgOpur3NAg *** D\'Souza stars in Calangute win - Gulf Daily News [Nov 9, 2007] A HAT-TRICK from Shane D'Souza helped newcomers Calangute score a facile 4-0 victory over Old Goa in the Basma Bahrain Goans Seven-A-Side Soccer League for ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/4-0&fd=R&url=http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/Story.asp?Article=199528&Sn=SPOR&IssueID=30235&cid=0&ei=DE02R5bOEpGoqgOpur3NAg *** International film festival in Goa not open to public - Hindustan Times [Nov 6, 2007] A tug of war has broken out between the ministry and the Entertainment Society of Goa that have been co-hosting IFFI since 2003. The ministrys directorate ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/3-0&fd=R&url=http://www.hindustantimes.com/redir.aspx?ID=74e6ded3-5b15-4581-81cb-bd45ba3c532f&cid=0&ei=DE02R5bOEpGoqgOpur3NAg *** Take the sunblock, leave behind the drugs - Business Standard [6 hours ago] Forty eight hours, a beach in Goa, the December sun, 21 djs and performers, a 15000-strong audience; still, itll be all about the music. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/2-0&fd=R&url=http://www.business-standard.com/lifeleisure/storypage.php?leftnm=5&subLeft=2&chklogin=N&autono=303806&tab=r&cid=0&ei=DE02R5bOEpGoqgOpur3NAg *** National school games to start from Nov. 12 - Hindu [12 hours ago] This is the second time Goa is hosting the event. The six days event will see around 22 teams taking part in football. While around 12 teams will take part ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/1-0&fd=R&url=http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/007200711101741.htm&cid=1123428791&ei=DE02R5bOEpGoqgOpur3NAg Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
[Goanet] Goa's health: HERALD(Goa), Nov 11, 2007
GOA’S HEALTH By Valmiki Faleiro I have always regarded the Goa Medical College hospital (GMC) as the best medical facility in the State. Not because the hospital of Asia’s oldest medical college is the best – it could certainly be better – but because it has vast facilities under a single roof, and a good pool of medical talent. GMC, admittedly, functions under severe constraints, despite at least one distinguished Goan surgeon having been Health Minister. The talent that Government salaries attract, functions without proper equipment, medicines and staff. Medical Council of India’s approval this week for a post-graduate (M.Ch.) course in Neurosurgery shows that all that GMC lacks is Government support. GMC’s handicaps were manna to better-equipped private facilities in Manipal, Belgaum, and elsewhere. GMC lacks the specialties of Cardiac, Cardio-Thoracic, Endocrinology, Urology, Neurology, Paediatric and Plastic surgery. These needed to be provided but, would you believe, Government claimed to have no funds! So, the idea of Public-Private Partnership (PPP) crept in. Public health had been put on the fast money track by the ever-resourceful former Health Minister, Dayanand Narvenkar. A young and enthusiastic Vishwajeet, the only son of veteran Chief Minister and present Speaker, Pratapsing Rane, succeeded Daya. Vishwajeet, I learn, well understands matters of money and business. I am, however, skeptical of this part sale of the GMC via PPP. Government signed a deal with a Delhi ‘Consultant’ to identify a private party for the “super speciality block” at the public GMC, even if half the town already knew who that party is. My friend Digu, the Chief Minister, justifies PPP. Government resources are inadequate for essential or desirable infrastructure development, he says. He also said that selection of private partners should be transparent. Just weeks before, when he cited Margao’s SGPDA market as a fine example of PPP, newsmen pointed out that while the builder raked in profits, only a few sheds were built for the public. That does not reflect the reality. Margao politicians had fleeced the builder, Kothari of Bombay. Private parties, like Kothari, are in business, not charity. That, I think, is the core of the PPP idea. Which Digu should know, because he too, like me, was in business. Digu inaugurated a series of four national-level workshops on PPP, held in Goa. D. Subbarao, Union Finance Secretary, said PPP would leverage government’s limited resources by private funds. Arvind Narayan, Joint Secretary, said, “Government of the day must not only be transparent but be seen to be transparent.” PPP is the newest lane for swindling public money. And if you think you may in future be caught and crucified for selling 5,000 sq. metres of GMC land to a Delhi party, appoint a ‘Consultant.’ The consultant will be crucified. Whoever controls government spending is today ‘entitled’ to a slice of it. Why do you think four experienced present Ministers are fighting over the Sports portfolio? Infrastructure for the 2011 National Games due in Goa is worth 500 crores. Why privatize public health, which serves the rich and poor alike? And what next? Given the justification for GMC’s PPP, will the entire public health system of govt. hospitals, health centres and the Health Department itself be handed over to private, profit-driven business houses by our profit-driven, business-minded politicians? Vishwajeet, the Health Minister, in fairness, demonstrated a lot of concern over soiled linen in public hospitals. He needn’t have made those surprise visits, had he read Mario Cabral e Sa, who, after another hospitalization at GMC, wrote how he was made to sleep in a messy place of food leftovers and trash, and lie on a bed sheet soiled and blood stained – not in a general ward, but the GMC’s ICU ! Why, for a perfect perspective on health, Vishwajeet need not even step out of family. Deviya, his wife, is a GMC-graduated doc, a girl known for her heart. Her father, Prakash, like his father Gurudas Timblo, is a socially accepted gentleman mineowner. Her mother, other than being a doctor who never charged a patient, hails from the stock of Purshottam Quencro, the large-hearted scion of the coconut merchant family, originally from Cortalim, that shifted to Cumbarjua on account of Portuguese religious persecution. As a lawyer in the mid-19th century, Quencro so successfully fought for rights of Goan Hindus with the crown in Lisbon, that he was made the “Barao de Cumbarjua” and, just before his demise, the Viscount of Cumbarjua – a place, like Divar, very close to my heart. TAILPIECE: I am glad Dy SP Mangaldas Dessai finally got a promotion – without going to the courts! (ENDS) The Valmiki Faleiro weekly column at: http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=330 == The above article appeared
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 2, Issue 1025
My dear John, Congratulations on your e-mail. As per information from your below e-mail. The lease on all Church properties and Catholics institutions throughout India are never checked, by any lawyer or Parish council. I request each and everyone of you to ask your Parish Priest or Nun in charge of a Catholic educationsal institution or church to please get your lease documents checked by good lawyers and make it known to Catholics throughout India. Why can't Catholics throughout India know where and how large are, our Church properties? All this should be documented immediately. The need of the hour for the Catholic community is more catholic educational institutions as well as reservations in govtmt jobs and govtmt educational institutions. Tell me which Catholic organisation or Catholic leader is bothered about the sorry plight of Catholics, who very often have to do the lowest paid jobs? Best regards
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 2, Issue 1031
Regarding Avarthanus DSouzas letter on SEZ, the part regarding different Departments, one not knowing what the other is doing, is spot on.Seems to me the main purpose is to avoid responsibility/accountability, make the citizen run from pillar to post and is a handy instrument for blatent corruption.I personally called on The CM about this Administration (If one can call it that). I gave him concrete examples and practical suggestions to start some sort of improvement. But the System will not change unless we start using RTI, refuse to run around, and they be made to face the music for ignorance,ineffeciency, wrong procedures etc. But there is an all round defecit of competence. Consider for example transferring all birth and death records of Margao from the Archives at Panaji. At Margao, there is no place ,so they are strewn on the ground, torn and tattered, staff new and lost as also are many of the records. Basic essential things like power and water( interdependent for supply) cannot be properly managed. Unless goans start doing something positive about the present state of affairs,I would quote George B Shaw "Get what you like,or learn to like what you get!"
[Goanet] Fwd:Portugal visit
Hello, we are Goans and are visiting Portugal (Lisbon) in December. Can you please advise a nice hotel to stay, convinient for tourists, but close to goan community and restaurants in the area. Thanks Fila Vaz
[Goanet] Kerkar Art Complex: Kathak dance by Mamata Hussain
Kerkar Art Complex organizes concerts of Indian Classical Dance and Music every Tuesday from 6:45 to 8:30 p.m. during the tourist season. This is the only place in Goa where concerts of Indian Classical Dance and Music are organized on a regular basis. For the last fifteen years, Kerkar Art Complex has been promoting Indian Classical Music and Dance. So far Kerkar Art Complex has presented more than five hundred concerts in order to give exposure to Indian Classical Music to the visiting tourists. The artists who perform at these concerts include Manab Das, Maruti Kurdekar, Chote Rahimat Khan, Mangala Mardolkar, Jyoti Goswami, Tulshidas Navelkar and Amit Bhosle. On Tuesday, 13th November 2007 there will be a Kathak dance performance by Mamata Hussain. This will be followed by a Sitar concert by Chote Rahimat Khan. He will be accompanied by Amit Bhosle on Tabla. Kerkar Art Complex Gaurawado Calangute, Bardez Goa - 403516. Tel: 2276017 Fax: 2276509 Website: www.subodhkerkar.com Goanet A&E - http://www.goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Goa Needs a Thackeray-style protector
Don't labour under the impression that Thackerays "protect". They just sell out (at the right price) to the Enrons. Visited the place many moons back, via a simple ST bus going via Guhagar, if one recalls right. FN On 10/11/2007, cedrico dacosta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Goa Needs its own Thackeray > > After the existing and past collection of chors...read politicians has let > down Goa so badly, Goa needed and badly needs a Thackeray-style protector who > would protect the interests of NIZ GOENKARS, their language and its culture > and land... > > If not by the middle of this century, like the tigers in India, NIZ GOENKARS > in Goa will be a rare species... > > Rgards > Cedric da Costa > Dubai > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > -- Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org Ph 0091-832-2409490 12000+ downloadable, sharable hi-res photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/
Re: [Goanet] Flash ....Banana ratna, Bal Thackeray of Goa etc
Hi Gabe, "Rejected" might be too strong a word. Let's say there was a slip between the cup and the lip. As far as being a "bit wonky", the word "bit" is untrue :-) and this has been the case from a young age :-) FN On 10/11/2007, Gabe Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > RESPONSE: I have volunteered, my services have been rejected - so > before you shoot your mouth once again, do not draw conclusions ! It > seems to be that you are getting a bit wonky in your old age? -- Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org Ph 0091-832-2409490 12000+ downloadable, sharable hi-res photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/
[Goanet] Talking Photo: Anybody has a gun?
Talking Photo: Anybody has a gun? Gun? What for? to shoot.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/nottyjoegoauk/1952948431/ photo deliberately kept blurry. Warning: Do not zoom in Again, it our new Panjim (opp market, river side) Ferry, barge etc also seen in the background [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa or http://is.rediff.com/profilevisitor.php?mem_id=48419 ___ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/
Re: [Goanet] Waiting for Deepavali in Goa
To Goanet - Based on the email feedback received on this entry, I would like to expand on a couple of points - 1) No, I do not avoid places and events inorder to avoid people. The bigger incentive (to avoid) is provided by what has become to the place itself. Case in point - Miramar. Walks along that beach used to be one of life's great pleasures. I grew up in the epsilon-neighborhood of Miramar. I don't go there anymore because it is painful to see what has become of it now - concrete eyesores ringing the beach, ghati hawkers, human waste, garbage and so on. The image conjured by the physicist David Mermin comes to mind: "dog turds on a well-manicured lawn." I would rather retain the old memories. 2) One fellow writes pompously that things don't remain static, that we have to accept change. This is a hackneyed truism. The important question is, what kind of changes? Have Indians since Independence built ANYTHING of worth? Any village, town or city that you can be proud of? No. Au contraire. We have turned the better things in our colonial legacy to sh*t. Name your city and you shall have your evidence - Bombay, Delhi, Bangalore, Chennai, Panjim... This cant about accepting change as a fact of life is bogus. We must only strive for those changes that make life better, more bearable, more beautiful, more enriching, in harmony with our environment, and so on. By every measure Indians have striven vigorously for the exact opposite. Which is why the case of Goa is intensely sad. This was the last pocket of the civilized life left in India. Warm regards, r
[Goanet] Shock as govt approves Bambolim hill cutting
Shock as govt approves Bambolim hill cutting PANJIM, NOV 10 - In what appears to be a volte-face, the State government has regularised the cutting of hill slopes at Bambolim by withdrawing 'stop work' orders and the police complaint against M/s Goan Real Estate and Constructions Ltd (GREL). In an order issued earlier this month, the Town and Country Planning Department has intimated all departments concerned of the government's decision to withdraw the 'stop work' orders at survey numbers 95/1 and 96/1 in Bambolim village. The TCP order also states that the government has decided to withdraw the complaint lodged by the Agassaim police under section 17-A of the Town and Country Planning Act, 1974. This move virtually gives a green signal to the controversial GREL's Aldeia de Goa construction project against which the Goa Bachao Abhiyan (GBA) and environmentalists had fought tooth and nail for causing destruction of the environment, particularly the hill slopes of Bambolim. The officials from TCP have disclosed that the GREL had submitted an application and affidavit pointing out that works undertaken at Bambolim were prior to 1997. But section 17-A was inserted in TCP Act through an amendment, after 1997, hence not applicable to it. The officials further state that the government was apprised of the application and arguments therein following which directions were issued by the government to withdraw the police complaint and 'stop work' orders. Meanwhile, a shell-shocked Goa Bachao Abhiyan (GBA) over the latest developments is chalking out a future course of action. Unwilling to disclose plans at this juncture, Secretary of GBA Patricia Pinto said, "The best solution is to take the matter to the aam aadmi's court." Pinto rubbished submissions made by the applicant and expressed dismay over the government's decision to regularise the hill cutting at Bambolim. She said: "The change in land use accorded to the real estate company comes under the purview of the Regional Plan 2001." She further explained that RP 2001 very clearly specifies protection of hill slopes. "Therefore no permissions can be granted nor regularization be accorded," she emphasized. GBA fails to understand how the government and the State's TCP ministry have been allegedly hoodwinked into lifting the restraints, she wondered. Ridiculing the government for withdrawing the police complaint, Ms Pinto said that since an FIR had been lodged that the police should have been allowed to complete their investigations. "The investigations would have brought to light as to when the hill cutting work was carried out," she said alleging that the GBA was certain that the works were carried out recently. http://www.oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=4080&cid=10
Re: [Goanet] Currency values
Vivian A. DSouza wrote: > And what is this constant harping on the under-valued rupee? > The rupee has appreciated at least 25 percent against several > major currencies in the past year, and is bound to appreciate > further as the Indian economy booms. The undervalued rupee > is a mixed blessing. On the positive side, it contributes to the > export boom that India has experienced in recent years. As > the rupee appreciates, Indian Goods and Servides will no longer > enjoy the advantage they have had so far in the international > marketplace. On the negative side it brings out the jealousy, > amongst those who make a living in the local economy, as > they see those who have returned from abroad able to afford > things that the locals cannot. That is life., But in the not too > distant future the disparity in incomes is bound to dissipate, > as it has already begun to do. Bwana D'Souza, Until recently, the US dollar was a well managed currency. It was in short supply and thus valuable. We all know that when you buy a unit of a country's currency, you are buying a share of that country. It is similar to buying a share in a company. The less shares there are in the company, the more likely they will be worth a lot. In the past few years, the current US administration has been spending money like drunken sailors. Worse yet is when they ran out of money, they started to print more. Last week, communist China told the US that if it did not stop the weakness in the US currency. China would switch its foreign exchange reserves to other currencies. Saudi Arabia sent the same message. So did Sudan. Inflation in the US is running at 5.1%. As you know, the US has an unique method of measuring inflation. It does not take into account the cost of food and petrol. Maybe this is because US residents are not concerned about those two components. Pensioners living in the US are faced with the prospect of losing half the purchasing power of their pensions if they live over ten years. India on the other hand, has suddenly found its currency appreciating. In part because its economy is expanding at a breathing taking rate and partly because the US dollar is sinking like a stone. Indian businesses dealing with US customers will soon feel the pain. As you have correctly pointed out, Goans working in the gulf will be in the same situation soon. On the other hand, Goans working in India will get wages that will soon close the gap between their cousins working in the gulf. Mervyn3.0 PS. The depth of the US dollar crises finally hit me yesterday. I run the office pool for the local lotto. When I went to count the money of the people who had paid for tickets, I found someone had cheated me. Someone had slipped me two US 25 cent coins. Those coins were worth only 24 cents Canadian. I felt violated. I felt depressed. And especially so because after years of me slipping Canadian coins in the US, Americans were now (forced into?) doing the same trick on Canadians. Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com
[Goanet] 'No more Konkani films': Talak
'No more Konkani films': Talak Cyril D'Cunha Award winning film director Rajendra Talak has declared that on his own, he will no longer produce any more Konkani films in future. Talak said that he had yet to recover the money spent on producing the National Award winning Konkani film 'Aleesha', which was in the region of over Rs. 60 lakhs. He also said that he had spent nearly Rs. 1.30 crores on producing different films, and has only recovered 50% of the amount so far. He blamed the bureaucrats for recovery of the money spent, as they kept the concerned 'files' bouncing back and forth among different officials. He, however, made an impassioned appeal to others to come forward in producing Konkani films and assured that he would be with them if the Government denies any assistance as per the scheme, provided they make a good film and win a national award. In this respect, he would meet Chief Minister Digambar Kamat to see that the matter of grants is expedited. He requested his detractors to concentrate more on film making, rather than making allegations and creating a confusion regarding the scheme, which is very transparent and result-oriented. Talak has successfully made the Konkani tele-film 'Shitu', the bilingual film 'Antarnad' in Konkani and 'Savelee' in Marathi, for which he won many awards. He announced that his new film "Saavariyaa.Com" will be made in Marathi for approx. Rs. 90 lakhs, to be shot in Goa and London. He will declare whether it will be made in Hindi in December, and the cost will be decided depending on the star cast. This film is based on internet marriages and the younger generation who appear confused and whom he wanted to be more focused. Shooting of the film will commence in March 2008 and the film will be ready for release at the IFFI 2008. He will be assisted in direction by Ketaki Haldipur and Sonali Kalangutkar, who were involved in the production of the Beam documentary competition on Save Goa. Talak, who is also the President of the Goan Organisation of Film Makers, said that he was looking for artistes who were seriously interested in film-making and acting. He could be contacted on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Goa Plus Nov 9, 2007
[Goanet] Condolence msg. - Sanny de Quepem
The Managing Committee, Members, Players and supporters of UNITED GOANS' CENTRE deeply mourn the sad and untimely demise of Cruz Sanny Vaz (Sanny de Quepem). Our heart felt sympathies to the bereaved family, relatives and friends. May his Sould Rest in Peace. United Goans' Centre Kuwait. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Anarchy in administration in Goa
Dear Goa netters, Have you ever thought how power and water situation has been deteoriting in the state of Goa since 2004. When Mr. Parrikar was at helm of affairs in Goa, the power and water was assumed commodities and we never faced any problems wrt its availability. But ever since, Mr. Rane's and then Mr. Digamber Kamat's Government has come to power, the basic commodities have become uncertain. I can understand my Hindu friend's plight when water and power were missing on the very day of Diwali this year. Our power minister and Chief Minister blamed failure of main transformer due to lightning on eve of Diwali. But I hope they are aware that every transformer and every electrical installation at sub station is protected against lightning and it is near impossibility that a transformer or for that matter any electrical equipment at a well protected sub stations are damaged by lightning. The inner story is that the frequent power failures is due to duplicate spares purchased by the power department under the ministership of Digubab and now presently our prince of Darkness Mr. Alexio. Ground level staff of electricity department will vouch for this. Even increased accident figures with department personnel will prove it. I challenge the likes of Mr. Floriano Lobo to take up this issue with the Government and give respite to much taunted 'Aam Admi'. Regards Dominic Fernandes
Re: [Goanet] Elvis Goes troupe to be Goa's contribution to the Guinness record attempt.
Dear Joe, Just great to have the links handy ... Roselind mhojea mogachea! The Mandd Sobhann also organises a dance competition for a dance form known as BAILA in which the audience/spectators can participate along side the performing troupes at the end . while the judges finalise the results. Seems a lot like a cross between our FUGDDI and KUNBI dances. I am sure the youth in Goa's colleges and HSS could learn a bit from this. The MANDDO is good for the grown ups. Baila may be the thing for the youth. Kingfisher has sponsorred Baila for the Good Times in Mangalore or home ground. Vijay can also do it in the land of his god Mahalsa at Mardol- Goa. There is a little Baila in "Roselind, mhojea mogachea!" Mog asundi. Miguel On Nov 10, 2007 1:47 PM, JoeGoaUk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks miguel, > > The links for the clips are here > > http://youtube.com/watch?v=ul_5BAfPIao > > http://youtube.com/watch?v=Os2KuNExpHw > > http://youtube.com/watch?v=EuQAWm8N5D8 > > > --- Miguel Braganza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Dears, > > > > This story is enough to warm the cockles of one's heart on a cold winter's > > night. Starting at the crack of dawn on India's 58th Republic Day, 42 > groups > > of Konknni singers [including Goa's famous Elvis Goes troupe] will attempt > to > > break the world record in Non-stop singing [Nirontari gayan] billed as > > 'Konkani Nirantari' at Mangalore. Eric Ozario, who performed with his > "Maand > > Sobann" group at the Silver Jubilee celebrations of TSKK at Porvorim on 29 > > March, 2007, and at Kala Academy, Panaji, for the "Tiatr Day" [ Watch the > > JoeGoaUK video of "Rosalin Mhojea Mogachea" on YouTube] in April, will be > > leading the effort from the front. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > for Goa & NRI related info... > http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ > > For Goan Video Clips > http://youtube.com/joeukgoa > or > http://is.rediff.com/profilevisitor.php?mem_id=48419 -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
Re: [Goanet] I found JoeGoaUK's photo revolting
The man publicly defecating. Near the river while people look on as if this was par for the course. I was revolted. I felt my stomach churning, first with disgust then with anger, filling up with revulsion. Even as I write this, I feel like I'm going to throw up. So visceral and poignant is my disgust. And suddenly I understand Rajan's anger, which in my intellectual outrage at his writings, I've been calling xenophobia for sometime now. This is what has happened to our Goa. This pristine beauty, admired, respected and envied by the world. This disgusting filth sullies it with the contents of his bowels. Goans would hang themselves first before defecating in public like that. Even those of us, like the Kunnbis and the Gawdas who don't have access to public toilets would be prudent enough to do their business in private. This is the indignity that Goans now have to live with, while we tell ourselves that everyone and anyone can make Goa their home because afterall in 1961, we became part of India. Excuse, while I throw up. selma __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Goa Govt. bends over for a kick on the rump: Aldeia de Goa
Dear Goykars, One would believe that the Goa Government had some sense of shame. The reality stands in a stark contrast. Last "Boxer's Day" [26 December, 2006], the people of Goa led by the GBA were at the beautiful Bambolim Beach to stop the rape of Goa by GREL's henchmen, rippers and dozers. It was the Rane-led regime that had to eat humble pie soon after it realised that this was not a "Night out" with the Builders' lobby that could be undone by an i-Pill. The police posted in large numbers to prevent the people of Goa from entering the GREL purchased properties was no protection at all. The Regional Plan 2011 had to be revoked. While the new Regional Plan 2021 is being re-worked, the Digamber-led Goa Government is taking the same road to its destruction. Perhaps, it is emboldened by the overwhelming vote of the Shaxttikars in favour of Francisco Sardinha. It is time for a re-think. The case against Aldeia de Goa's rape of Bambolim hill and the river-front is the only case that the Goa Bachao Abhiyan is fighting legally so as to save the people of Goa the effort of coming to the strets every time. Looks like the People's Court will have to be convened once again. The Congress-led government better prepare for a very warm December if it does not respect the will of the Goan people. It is going to feel the heat of the BJP + Utth Goenkara + UGDP with the incognito Congress lackeys on board to lower the flame. The GBA has consciously remained non-political ... and ALWAYS with the people . I am sure that the Vicente Xavier Verodiano Award will help boost its spirit and its cash component to fund the expenditure of obtaining documents and organising action with people's participation. So be it. Mog asundi. Miguel Shock as govt approves Bambolim hill cutting BY HERALD REPORTER PANJIM, NOV 10 — In what appears to be a volte-face, the State government has regularised the cutting of hill slopes at Bambolim by withdrawing 'stop work' orders and the police complaint against M/s Goan Real Estate and Constructions Ltd (GREL). In an order issued earlier this month, the Town and Country Planning Department has intimated all departments concerned of the government's decision to withdraw the 'stop work' orders at survey numbers 95/1 and 96/1 in Bambolim village. The TCP order also states that the government has decided to withdraw the complaint lodged by the Agassaim police under section 17-A of the Town and Country Planning Act, 1974. This move virtually gives a green signal to the controversial GREL's Aldeia de Goa construction project against which the Goa Bachao Abhiyan (GBA) and environmentalists had fought tooth and nail for causing destruction of the environment, particularly the hill slopes of Bambolim. The officials from TCP have disclosed that the GREL had submitted an application and affidavit pointing out that works undertaken at Bambolim were prior to 1997. But section 17-A was inserted in TCP Act through an amendment, after 1997, hence not applicable to it. The officials further state that the government was apprised of the application and arguments therein following which directions were issued by the government to withdraw the police complaint and 'stop work' orders. Meanwhile, a shell-shocked Goa Bachao Abhiyan (GBA) over the latest developments is chalking out a future course of action. Unwilling to disclose plans at this juncture, Secretary of GBA Patricia Pinto said, "The best solution is to take the matter to the aam aadmi's court." Pinto rubbished submissions made by the applicant and expressed dismay over the government's decision to regularise the hill cutting at Bambolim. She said: "The change in land use accorded to the real estate company comes under the purview of the Regional Plan 2001." She further explained that RP 2001 very clearly specifies protection of hill slopes. "Therefore no permissions can be granted nor regularization be accorded," she emphasized. GBA fails to understand how the government and the State's TCP ministry have been allegedly hoodwinked into lifting the restraints, she wondered. Ridiculing the government for withdrawing the police complaint, Ms Pinto said that since an FIR had been lodged that the police should have been allowed to complete their investigations. "The investigations would have brought to light as to when the hill cutting work was carried out," she said alleging that the GBA was certain that the works were carried out recently. -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.