RE: [go-nuts] Latest Tiobe Ranking

2017-10-09 Thread John Souvestre 
You could mention to your colleagues that if they scroll down on the Tiobe page 
they will find Go listed in their Hall of Fame as the "Programming Language of 
the Year" for 2009 and 2016.

I second Ian's recommendation of Redmonk and IEEE - if you must reference any 
such lists.

John

John Souvestre - New Orleans LA

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Hi Ian

Thank you for your elaboration. I won't choose a language because of such 
index, but I'm trying to convince my colleagues of the benefits of go and 
therefore no matter how funny such indexes are, it isn't useful as well. I'm 
always looking for success stories about using go from other companies.

Cheers

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Re: [go-nuts] Latest Tiobe Ranking

2017-10-09 Thread John Roth 


On Monday, October 9, 2017 at 12:13:43 PM UTC-6, snmed wrote:
>
> Hi Ian
>
> Thank you for your elaboration. I won't choose a language because of such 
> index, but I'm trying to convince my colleagues of the benefits of go and 
> therefore no matter how funny such indexes are, it isn't useful as well. 
> I'm always looking for success stories about using go from other companies.
>
> Cheers
>

If you want to make this a bit more useful, analyze why the difference. As 
far as I can see, the entire change in ranking was due to: Matlab, Scratch, 
R and PL/SQL. All four of these are special purpose languages. You are 
looking for a general purpose language. Looked at this way, the ranking 
hasn't changed. 

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Re: [go-nuts] Latest Tiobe Ranking

2017-10-09 Thread snmed 
Hi Ian

Thank you for your elaboration. I won't choose a language because of such 
index, but I'm trying to convince my colleagues of the benefits of go and 
therefore no matter how funny such indexes are, it isn't useful as well. I'm 
always looking for success stories about using go from other companies.

Cheers

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Re: [go-nuts] Latest Tiobe Ranking

2017-10-09 Thread Ian Lance Taylor 
On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 10:41 AM, snmed  wrote:
>
> I've seen the latest Tiobe Index https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/
> How could that happen, dropped onto the 20th rank? Has someone a better 
> source of go's adoption in the wild?

The TIOBE index is quite unreliable as it is based only on web
searches.  They also change their algorithm from time to time, meaning
that the historical results are close to meaningless.

In general you have to treat all these indexes as amusing sidelines
that mean little in reality.  You definitely shouldn't use them to
choose which programming language to use.  That said, two indexes that
are slightly more meaningful than TIOBE, in that they at least measure
something more relevant, are Redmonk
(http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2017/06/08/language-rankings-6-17/) and
IEEE Spectrum 
(https://spectrum.ieee.org/computing/software/the-2017-top-programming-languages).
But before you go off approving those I stress again that all of these
indexes are amusements at best.

Ian

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[go-nuts] Latest Tiobe Ranking

2017-10-09 Thread snmed 
I've seen the latest Tiobe Index https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/ 
How could that happen, dropped onto the 20th rank? Has someone a better source 
of go's adoption in the wild?

Cheers

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