Re: [go-nuts] go text://protocol client?

2021-04-22 Thread Petite Abeille



> On Apr 11, 2021, at 12:22, 'Axel Wagner' via golang-nuts 
>  wrote:
> 
> Everything around it certainly emits the air of pretentiousness that the fine 
> art market is famous for.

à propos:

FTC Rules Businesses Must Disclose Whether They Actually Cool Or Just Use 
Minimalist Branding
https://www.theonion.com/ftc-rules-businesses-must-disclose-whether-they-actuall-1846692724

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Re: [go-nuts] go text://protocol client?

2021-04-14 Thread 'Axel Wagner' via golang-nuts
I'm genuinely baffled by the lack of self-awareness on display here.

On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 7:43 PM Thomas Bushnell BSG 
wrote:

> In *Ash Wednesday, *T. S. Eliot wrote the line "Lady, three white
> leopards sat under a juniper tree in the cool of the day" When he was
> asked what it meant, he aisd "It means, 'Lady, three white leopards sat
> under a juniper tree in the cool of the day'"
>
> I suspect if there were a better way to express what Eliot meant, he would
> have chosen it.
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 8:19 AM 'Axel Wagner' via golang-nuts <
> golang-nuts@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't understand what you are trying to say. And I feel the fact that
>> everyone talking about is either confused, or speaking in riddles instead
>> of just plainly explaining what they are trying to say, speaks for itself.
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 1:55 PM Petite Abeille 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > On Apr 11, 2021, at 12:22, 'Axel Wagner' via golang-nuts <
>>> golang-nuts@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Everything around it certainly emits the air of pretentiousness that
>>> the fine art market is famous for.
>>>
>>> There is a method to it:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://lighthouse-dot-webdotdevsite.appspot.com//lh/html?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftextprotocol.org%2Fcontact
>>>
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Re: [go-nuts] go text://protocol client?

2021-04-14 Thread 'Thomas Bushnell BSG' via golang-nuts
In *Ash Wednesday, *T. S. Eliot wrote the line "Lady, three white leopards
sat under a juniper tree in the cool of the day" When he was asked what
it meant, he aisd "It means, 'Lady, three white leopards sat under a
juniper tree in the cool of the day'"

I suspect if there were a better way to express what Eliot meant, he would
have chosen it.


On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 8:19 AM 'Axel Wagner' via golang-nuts <
golang-nuts@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I don't understand what you are trying to say. And I feel the fact that
> everyone talking about is either confused, or speaking in riddles instead
> of just plainly explaining what they are trying to say, speaks for itself.
>
> On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 1:55 PM Petite Abeille 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> > On Apr 11, 2021, at 12:22, 'Axel Wagner' via golang-nuts <
>> golang-nuts@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Everything around it certainly emits the air of pretentiousness that
>> the fine art market is famous for.
>>
>> There is a method to it:
>>
>>
>> https://lighthouse-dot-webdotdevsite.appspot.com//lh/html?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftextprotocol.org%2Fcontact
>>
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Re: [go-nuts] go text://protocol client?

2021-04-11 Thread Petite Abeille


> On Apr 11, 2021, at 14:23, K. Alex Mills  wrote:
> 
> Well I'm convinced this is art, and once it's viewed that way, I think it 
> stops being confounding and becomes delightful.
> 
> Sending it to my Art History contacts for analysis. Maybe by putting it in 
> the proper context we can come to understand it better (or at least... 
> differently).
> 



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Re: [go-nuts] go text://protocol client?

2021-04-11 Thread Petite Abeille


> On Apr 11, 2021, at 14:18, Axel Wagner  wrote:
> 
> I don't understand what you are trying to say. And I feel the fact that 
> everyone talking about is either confused, or speaking in riddles instead of 
> just plainly explaining what they are trying to say, speaks for itself.


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Re: [go-nuts] go text://protocol client?

2021-04-11 Thread K. Alex Mills
On Sun, Apr 11, 2021, 5:15 AM Jesper Louis Andersen <
jesper.louis.ander...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 5:11 AM Kurtis Rader  wrote:
>
>>
>> It is nice that the specification allows for an efficient implementation.
>> But I agree with Dan that your documentation is opaque, obtuse,
>> inscrutable, etc. So much so that I initially thought it was some sort of
>> April Fools Day joke.
>>
>>
> April Fools?
>
> No.
>
> It's an art installation. A lament to the mistakes we've made. The
> documents WE've written. But no-one reads. We revel in the 113 lines of
> pure specification, as a temple to Alan Kay. Documentation must be
> executable! The page implements human Hypertext is the Engine of
> Application State (HATEOAS), creating an interlinked web of important data.
> You MUST dig(1) to understand. Also note that the page is a mirror into a
> better world. A world in which text://protocol exists! It's for the youth.
> They never experienced the raw information exchange driven by
> Sync-on-Green. They never experienced Unix in its pure form. Or plan 9.
> Instead, they are forced, by the power of the DOM and CSS, to live in a
> pin-holed world where the light only shines occasionally. This is their BBS.
>
> This doesn't belong on a mailing list. It should be put in an art gallery.
>

>
Well I'm convinced this is art, and once it's viewed that way, I think it
stops being confounding and becomes delightful.

Sending it to my Art History contacts for analysis. Maybe by putting it in
the proper context we can come to understand it better (or at least...
differently).


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Re: [go-nuts] go text://protocol client?

2021-04-11 Thread 'Axel Wagner' via golang-nuts
I don't understand what you are trying to say. And I feel the fact that
everyone talking about is either confused, or speaking in riddles instead
of just plainly explaining what they are trying to say, speaks for itself.

On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 1:55 PM Petite Abeille 
wrote:

>
>
> > On Apr 11, 2021, at 12:22, 'Axel Wagner' via golang-nuts <
> golang-nuts@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> >
> > Everything around it certainly emits the air of pretentiousness that the
> fine art market is famous for.
>
> There is a method to it:
>
>
> https://lighthouse-dot-webdotdevsite.appspot.com//lh/html?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftextprotocol.org%2Fcontact
>
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Re: [go-nuts] go text://protocol client?

2021-04-11 Thread Petite Abeille



> On Apr 11, 2021, at 12:14, Jesper Louis Andersen 
>  wrote:
> 
> It's an art installation. A lament to the mistakes we've made. The documents 
> WE've written. But no-one reads. We revel in the 113 lines of pure 
> specification, as a temple to Alan Kay. Documentation must be executable! The 
> page implements human Hypertext is the Engine of Application State (HATEOAS), 
> creating an interlinked web of important data. You MUST dig(1) to understand. 
> Also note that the page is a mirror into a better world. A world in which 
> text://protocol exists! It's for the youth. They never experienced the raw 
> information exchange driven by Sync-on-Green. They never experienced Unix in 
> its pure form. Or plan 9. Instead, they are forced, by the power of the DOM 
> and CSS, to live in a pin-holed world where the light only shines 
> occasionally. This is their BBS.
> 
> This doesn't belong on a mailing list. It should be put in an art gallery. 

Borderline dadaist.

And intertwingled: 

# curl -s https://textprotocol.org/ | pup 'json{}' | gron | grep 'href = ' | wc 
-l
122

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Re: [go-nuts] go text://protocol client?

2021-04-11 Thread Petite Abeille


> On Apr 11, 2021, at 05:11, Kurtis Rader  wrote:
> 
> It is nice that the specification allows for an efficient implementation. But 
> I agree with Dan that your documentation is opaque, obtuse, inscrutable, etc. 
> So much so that I initially thought it was some sort of April Fools Day joke.
> 

Perhaps something to do with reading comprehension :)





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Re: [go-nuts] go text://protocol client?

2021-04-11 Thread Petite Abeille



> On Apr 11, 2021, at 12:22, 'Axel Wagner' via golang-nuts 
>  wrote:
> 
> Everything around it certainly emits the air of pretentiousness that the fine 
> art market is famous for.

There is a method to it:

https://lighthouse-dot-webdotdevsite.appspot.com//lh/html?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftextprotocol.org%2Fcontact


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Re: [go-nuts] go text://protocol client?

2021-04-11 Thread 'Axel Wagner' via golang-nuts
Everything around it certainly emits the air of pretentiousness that the
fine art market is famous for.

On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 12:15 PM Jesper Louis Andersen <
jesper.louis.ander...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 5:11 AM Kurtis Rader  wrote:
>
>>
>> It is nice that the specification allows for an efficient implementation.
>> But I agree with Dan that your documentation is opaque, obtuse,
>> inscrutable, etc. So much so that I initially thought it was some sort of
>> April Fools Day joke.
>>
>>
> April Fools?
>
> No.
>
> It's an art installation. A lament to the mistakes we've made. The
> documents WE've written. But no-one reads. We revel in the 113 lines of
> pure specification, as a temple to Alan Kay. Documentation must be
> executable! The page implements human Hypertext is the Engine of
> Application State (HATEOAS), creating an interlinked web of important data.
> You MUST dig(1) to understand. Also note that the page is a mirror into a
> better world. A world in which text://protocol exists! It's for the youth.
> They never experienced the raw information exchange driven by
> Sync-on-Green. They never experienced Unix in its pure form. Or plan 9.
> Instead, they are forced, by the power of the DOM and CSS, to live in a
> pin-holed world where the light only shines occasionally. This is their BBS.
>
> This doesn't belong on a mailing list. It should be put in an art gallery.
>
>
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Re: [go-nuts] go text://protocol client?

2021-04-11 Thread Jesper Louis Andersen
On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 5:11 AM Kurtis Rader  wrote:

>
> It is nice that the specification allows for an efficient implementation.
> But I agree with Dan that your documentation is opaque, obtuse,
> inscrutable, etc. So much so that I initially thought it was some sort of
> April Fools Day joke.
>
>
April Fools?

No.

It's an art installation. A lament to the mistakes we've made. The
documents WE've written. But no-one reads. We revel in the 113 lines of
pure specification, as a temple to Alan Kay. Documentation must be
executable! The page implements human Hypertext is the Engine of
Application State (HATEOAS), creating an interlinked web of important data.
You MUST dig(1) to understand. Also note that the page is a mirror into a
better world. A world in which text://protocol exists! It's for the youth.
They never experienced the raw information exchange driven by
Sync-on-Green. They never experienced Unix in its pure form. Or plan 9.
Instead, they are forced, by the power of the DOM and CSS, to live in a
pin-holed world where the light only shines occasionally. This is their BBS.

This doesn't belong on a mailing list. It should be put in an art gallery.


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Re: [go-nuts] go text://protocol client?

2021-04-10 Thread Kurtis Rader
On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 7:55 PM Petite Abeille 
wrote:

> > On Apr 10, 2021, at 00:41, 'Dan Kortschak' via golang-nuts <
> golang-nuts@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> >
> >> [1] https://textprotocol.org
> >
> > That's an extraordinarily and unnecessarily obtuse document.
>
> Quite an achievement indeed :)
>
> Even though in practice it translates to around ~113 sloc — server side:
>
> https://github.com/textprotocol/publictext/blob/main/publictext


It is nice that the specification allows for an efficient implementation.
But I agree with Dan that your documentation is opaque, obtuse,
inscrutable, etc. So much so that I initially thought it was some sort of
April Fools Day joke.

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Re: [go-nuts] go text://protocol client?

2021-04-10 Thread Petite Abeille



> On Apr 10, 2021, at 00:41, 'Dan Kortschak' via golang-nuts 
>  wrote:
> 
>> [1] https://textprotocol.org
> 
> That's an extraordinarily and unnecessarily obtuse document.

Quite an achievement indeed :)

Even though in practice it translates to around ~113 sloc — server side:

https://github.com/textprotocol/publictext/blob/main/publictext


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Re: [go-nuts] go text://protocol client?

2021-04-10 Thread Petite Abeille



> On Apr 10, 2021, at 10:49, Anthony Martin  wrote:
> 
> They sure are a busy little bee.
> 
> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26675569
> https://erlang.org/pipermail/erlang-questions/2021-April/100873.html

Systematic for sure:

https://textprotocol.org/contact


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Re: [go-nuts] go text://protocol client?

2021-04-10 Thread Anthony Martin
Jesper Louis Andersen  once said:
> On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 5:37 PM 'Petite Abeille' via golang-nuts <
> golang-nuts@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> >
> > Would you know of any go text://protocol clients? Or servers?
> >
> >
> No, but it would be a fairly good beginner project[0]
>
> [0] Readers of the erlang-questions@ mailing list would know :P

They sure are a busy little bee.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26675569
https://erlang.org/pipermail/erlang-questions/2021-April/100873.html

Cheers,
  Anthony

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Re: [go-nuts] go text://protocol client?

2021-04-09 Thread 'Dan Kortschak' via golang-nuts
On Fri, 2021-04-09 at 17:01 +0200, 'Petite Abeille' via golang-nuts
wrote:
> [1] https://textprotocol.org

That's an extraordinarily and unnecessarily obtuse document.



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Re: [go-nuts] go text://protocol client?

2021-04-09 Thread Jesper Louis Andersen
On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 5:37 PM 'Petite Abeille' via golang-nuts <
golang-nuts@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
> Would you know of any go text://protocol clients? Or servers?
>
>
No, but it would be a fairly good beginner project[0]

[0] Readers of the erlang-questions@ mailing list would know :P

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[go-nuts] go text://protocol client?

2021-04-09 Thread 'Petite Abeille' via golang-nuts
Hello,

Would you know of any go text://protocol clients? Or servers?

Thanks in advance.

[1] https://textprotocol.org
[2] https://github.com/textprotocol/public
[3] https://github.com/textprotocol/publictext

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