Re: [go-nuts] Re: Go 1.19 average goroutine stack

2022-08-18 Thread T L
On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 5:11 PM Jan Mercl <0xj...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 10:34 AM T L  wrote:
>
> > When I investigate something, I ask questions in communities firstly, to
> save time.
>
> To save your time at the expense of more time wasted by others. Such
> an approach is rightfully frowned upon.
>
> Doing your own research first, asking about things where you got stuck
> next is fine.
>

It really wastes your time (and others') to make such an unnecessary and
impolite reply.

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Re: [go-nuts] Re: Go 1.19 average goroutine stack

2022-08-18 Thread Jan Mercl
On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 10:34 AM T L  wrote:

> When I investigate something, I ask questions in communities firstly, to save 
> time.

To save your time at the expense of more time wasted by others. Such
an approach is rightfully frowned upon.

Doing your own research first, asking about things where you got stuck
next is fine.

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Re: [go-nuts] Re: Go 1.19 average goroutine stack

2022-08-18 Thread T L
On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 11:30 AM Kurtis Rader  wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 8:18 PM tapi...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I'm a bit wondering about how the following case will be affected by the
>> change:
>> 1. Initially, there is one goroutine, which stack size is large at the
>> time of a GC process.
>> 2. After the GC process, a large quantity of goroutines start. They all
>> need small stacks.
>>But now the runtime will allocate a very large stack for each of them.
>>
>> Then is much memory wasted? Will the stacks of the new goroutines shrink
>> at the next GC process?
>>
>
> I can't help but wonder why, if you care so much about this type of issue,
> you did not make any attempt to answer your own question? Why not assume
> the Go team is competent (thus handling your scenario in a reasonable, if
> not optimal, fashion) unless you have evidence to the contrary? Why didn't
> you take a few minutes to write a Go program to test your own hypothesis?
> Questions are great unless you make no attempt to answer your own question.
>
>
So you don't care so much about this type of issue? I wonder why you don't
care?

When I investigate something, I ask questions in communities firstly, to
save time.
For experts who understand the problem, it will spend them no much time to
make an answer.

I never denied the competentness of Go team.

I don't think I'm able to write a Go program to test in a few minutes.
In fact, this will be my last attempt and is why I asked the question here.
If you are able to, could you write one? I will be very appreciate it.


>
>
>> On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 10:00:58 PM UTC+8 lia...@garena.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi masters,
>>>
>>> As far as I know, go 1.19 supports self-adaptive stack size when
>>> spawning a goroutine, which intends to decrease the calling times of
>>> morestack that aims to claim more frames from heap.
>>>
>>> After each GC happens, Go runtime will calculate the average stack usage
>>> and the next time, goroutine would created with such a stack size.
>>>
>>> My question is, how do we validate the whole process or check it if
>>> works well or not.
>>> Is there any metric or stack size checking function, or should I use
>>> pprof to peek the alloc part ?
>>>
>>> Kindly thanks for all
>>>
>>> ```
>>> func main() {
>>> go func() {
>>> // spawn a goroutine started from a fixed stack size
>>> }()
>>>
>>> runtime.GC()
>>>
>>> go func() {
>>> // spawn a goroutine started from an avg stack size.
>>> }()
>>> }
>>> ```
>>>
>>>
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>
>
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