Re: How much time does google have to fixe larger issues for 4.0?

2014-02-19 Thread Tim Boudreau
If there's anything those of us outside Google can do to help get the 
release out the way you want it to be, I'm sure I'm not the only one 
willing to donate some of my time.

-Tim

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Re: How much time does google have to fixe larger issues for 4.0?

2014-02-18 Thread Tim Boudreau
I've got a soon-to-ship non-trivial application running on Guice 4 beta. 
 While it's working fine, it would be nice not to see beta in that list 
of dependencies...

-Tim

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Re: How much time does google have to fixe larger issues for 4.0?

2014-02-18 Thread Christian Gruber
I think we are a little ways still away from a final release of 4, but 
that's mostly because of how many balls the various folks are juggling.  
The goal with getting the beta out was that it was more than just a 
snapshot, but a credible working version.  It's really not beta in the 
normal sense.  Google's applications all run at head. So, if the word 
makes you feel twitchy, I can understand that, but the code 
reliability/viability is production from Google's perspective.


I think we had a few more things we wanted to accomplish in order to 
call this 4.  But we should talk it over and figure out what we really 
do need/want in before rolling another version.  I think it is severely 
unlikely we will have any API-risky changes forthcoming.


Christian.

On 18 Feb 2014, at 3:30, Tim Boudreau wrote:

I've got a soon-to-ship non-trivial application running on Guice 4 
beta.
While it's working fine, it would be nice not to see beta in that 
list

of dependencies...

-Tim

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Re: How much time does google have to fixe larger issues for 4.0?

2014-02-18 Thread Sam Berlin
+1.  If it makes you feel any better, the very system you're
writing/reading this email on is using the latest Guice code, and it seems
to be working fine. :-)

 sam


On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Christian Gruber cgru...@google.comwrote:

 I think we are a little ways still away from a final release of 4, but
 that's mostly because of how many balls the various folks are juggling.
  The goal with getting the beta out was that it was more than just a
 snapshot, but a credible working version.  It's really not beta in the
 normal sense.  Google's applications all run at head. So, if the word makes
 you feel twitchy, I can understand that, but the code reliability/viability
 is production from Google's perspective.

 I think we had a few more things we wanted to accomplish in order to call
 this 4.  But we should talk it over and figure out what we really do
 need/want in before rolling another version.  I think it is severely
 unlikely we will have any API-risky changes forthcoming.

 Christian.


 On 18 Feb 2014, at 3:30, Tim Boudreau wrote:

  I've got a soon-to-ship non-trivial application running on Guice 4 beta.
 While it's working fine, it would be nice not to see beta in that list
 of dependencies...

 -Tim

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Re: How much time does google have to fixe larger issues for 4.0?

2014-02-09 Thread Stephan Classen

Still no news?
anybody???



On 01/21/2014 10:29 PM, Stephan Classen wrote:
Since the hollidays are over and everybody is back to work: any update 
on this?

does somebody at google want to maintain the persist extension?


On 12/19/2013 06:31 PM, Christian Gruber wrote:
So that's not entirely true anymore.  We have a few folks using it 
internally.  I had originally been cool with detaching it (I guess I 
still am, since the author did effectively drop it after adding it) 
from the main Guice project, but we should see if there are users 
internally who want to maintain our side of it.


c.

On 19 Dec 2013, at 4:57, Sam Berlin wrote:

To be perfectly honest, I would like to drop persist from the 
extensions we
ship. The original author more or less dropped the code in the 
repository
and then stopped maintaining it immediately.  No one within Google 
really
uses it, and we have no familiarity with it.  If another project 
wants to

fork and maintain it, that would be great.

sam
On Dec 19, 2013 1:50 AM, scl st.clas...@gmx.ch wrote:

After Sam's call to 
bumphttps://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/google-guice/ZZpFD3e_8v0the 
issues we would like to have fixed in 4.0 I went through the list of

issues regarding the persist extension.
Simply because I know it the best and because I ran into some of the
issues myself.

Going over the list I found a bunch of issues which are more or less
straight forward to fix.
But what disturbed me was, that several issues which have gotten a 
lot of
attention (or at least a lot of comments) have the same root cause 
which is

not trivial to solve.

So my question is how much time do you have at google for 
discussing and

reviewing the possible solutions (including tests and patches).
Or would you prefer to address the more complex problems in 
extensions at
a later time, since extensions can be released separately from the 
core?



The issues I'm talking about are 
597http://code.google.com/p/google-guice/issues/detail?id=597,
604 http://code.google.com/p/google-guice/issues/detail?id=604, 
730http://code.google.com/p/google-guice/issues/detail?id=730,
739 http://code.google.com/p/google-guice/issues/detail?id=739 
(issue
731 http://code.google.com/p/google-guice/issues/detail?id=731 
requests

a new feature which could be used as a workaround).
The underlying cause is that calling ProviderEntityManager.get() 
outside
of a UnitOfWork will implicitly start a UnitOfWork which is never 
ended.


If you do have time to address the above issue I would be more than
willing to participate in the process of getting it solved.

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Re: How much time does google have to fixe larger issues for 4.0?

2014-02-09 Thread Christian Gruber
Sorry - some internal discussion.  It's not clear at this point. I've 
been out most of the last week and a bit, so I'll try to get discussions 
restarted.


c.

On 9 Feb 2014, at 12:09, Stephan Classen wrote:


Still no news?
anybody???



On 01/21/2014 10:29 PM, Stephan Classen wrote:
Since the hollidays are over and everybody is back to work: any 
update on this?

does somebody at google want to maintain the persist extension?


On 12/19/2013 06:31 PM, Christian Gruber wrote:
So that's not entirely true anymore.  We have a few folks using it 
internally.  I had originally been cool with detaching it (I guess I 
still am, since the author did effectively drop it after adding it) 
from the main Guice project, but we should see if there are users 
internally who want to maintain our side of it.


c.

On 19 Dec 2013, at 4:57, Sam Berlin wrote:

To be perfectly honest, I would like to drop persist from the 
extensions we
ship. The original author more or less dropped the code in the 
repository
and then stopped maintaining it immediately.  No one within Google 
really
uses it, and we have no familiarity with it.  If another project 
wants to

fork and maintain it, that would be great.

sam
On Dec 19, 2013 1:50 AM, scl st.clas...@gmx.ch wrote:

After Sam's call to 
bumphttps://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/google-guice/ZZpFD3e_8v0the 
issues we would like to have fixed in 4.0 I went through the list 
of

issues regarding the persist extension.
Simply because I know it the best and because I ran into some of 
the

issues myself.

Going over the list I found a bunch of issues which are more or 
less

straight forward to fix.
But what disturbed me was, that several issues which have gotten a 
lot of
attention (or at least a lot of comments) have the same root cause 
which is

not trivial to solve.

So my question is how much time do you have at google for 
discussing and

reviewing the possible solutions (including tests and patches).
Or would you prefer to address the more complex problems in 
extensions at
a later time, since extensions can be released separately from the 
core?



The issues I'm talking about are 
597http://code.google.com/p/google-guice/issues/detail?id=597,
604 http://code.google.com/p/google-guice/issues/detail?id=604, 
730http://code.google.com/p/google-guice/issues/detail?id=730,
739 http://code.google.com/p/google-guice/issues/detail?id=739 
(issue
731 http://code.google.com/p/google-guice/issues/detail?id=731 
requests

a new feature which could be used as a workaround).
The underlying cause is that calling ProviderEntityManager.get() 
outside
of a UnitOfWork will implicitly start a UnitOfWork which is never 
ended.


If you do have time to address the above issue I would be more 
than

willing to participate in the process of getting it solved.

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Re: How much time does google have to fixe larger issues for 4.0?

2014-02-09 Thread Stephan Classen

Thanks for the update.

Take all the time you need. I feel such decisions need to be thoroughly 
be thought through.
I just don't want them to be buried by the daily workload of other 
important stuff.




On 02/09/2014 09:19 PM, Christian Gruber wrote:
Sorry - some internal discussion.  It's not clear at this point. I've 
been out most of the last week and a bit, so I'll try to get 
discussions restarted.


c.

On 9 Feb 2014, at 12:09, Stephan Classen wrote:


Still no news?
anybody???



On 01/21/2014 10:29 PM, Stephan Classen wrote:
Since the hollidays are over and everybody is back to work: any 
update on this?

does somebody at google want to maintain the persist extension?


On 12/19/2013 06:31 PM, Christian Gruber wrote:
So that's not entirely true anymore. We have a few folks using it 
internally.  I had originally been cool with detaching it (I guess 
I still am, since the author did effectively drop it after adding 
it) from the main Guice project, but we should see if there are 
users internally who want to maintain our side of it.


c.

On 19 Dec 2013, at 4:57, Sam Berlin wrote:

To be perfectly honest, I would like to drop persist from the 
extensions we
ship. The original author more or less dropped the code in the 
repository
and then stopped maintaining it immediately.  No one within Google 
really
uses it, and we have no familiarity with it.  If another project 
wants to

fork and maintain it, that would be great.

sam
On Dec 19, 2013 1:50 AM, scl st.clas...@gmx.ch wrote:

After Sam's call to 
bumphttps://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/google-guice/ZZpFD3e_8v0the 
issues we would like to have fixed in 4.0 I went through the list of

issues regarding the persist extension.
Simply because I know it the best and because I ran into some of the
issues myself.

Going over the list I found a bunch of issues which are more or less
straight forward to fix.
But what disturbed me was, that several issues which have gotten 
a lot of
attention (or at least a lot of comments) have the same root 
cause which is

not trivial to solve.

So my question is how much time do you have at google for 
discussing and

reviewing the possible solutions (including tests and patches).
Or would you prefer to address the more complex problems in 
extensions at
a later time, since extensions can be released separately from 
the core?



The issues I'm talking about are 
597http://code.google.com/p/google-guice/issues/detail?id=597,
604 http://code.google.com/p/google-guice/issues/detail?id=604, 
730http://code.google.com/p/google-guice/issues/detail?id=730,
739 http://code.google.com/p/google-guice/issues/detail?id=739 
(issue
731 http://code.google.com/p/google-guice/issues/detail?id=731 
requests

a new feature which could be used as a workaround).
The underlying cause is that calling 
ProviderEntityManager.get() outside
of a UnitOfWork will implicitly start a UnitOfWork which is never 
ended.


If you do have time to address the above issue I would be more than
willing to participate in the process of getting it solved.

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Re: How much time does google have to fixe larger issues for 4.0?

2014-01-21 Thread Stephan Classen
Since the hollidays are over and everybody is back to work: any update 
on this?

does somebody at google want to maintain the persist extension?


On 12/19/2013 06:31 PM, Christian Gruber wrote:
So that's not entirely true anymore.  We have a few folks using it 
internally.  I had originally been cool with detaching it (I guess I 
still am, since the author did effectively drop it after adding it) 
from the main Guice project, but we should see if there are users 
internally who want to maintain our side of it.


c.

On 19 Dec 2013, at 4:57, Sam Berlin wrote:

To be perfectly honest, I would like to drop persist from the 
extensions we
ship. The original author more or less dropped the code in the 
repository
and then stopped maintaining it immediately.  No one within Google 
really
uses it, and we have no familiarity with it.  If another project 
wants to

fork and maintain it, that would be great.

sam
On Dec 19, 2013 1:50 AM, scl st.clas...@gmx.ch wrote:

After Sam's call to 
bumphttps://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/google-guice/ZZpFD3e_8v0the 
issues we would like to have fixed in 4.0 I went through the list of

issues regarding the persist extension.
Simply because I know it the best and because I ran into some of the
issues myself.

Going over the list I found a bunch of issues which are more or less
straight forward to fix.
But what disturbed me was, that several issues which have gotten a 
lot of
attention (or at least a lot of comments) have the same root cause 
which is

not trivial to solve.

So my question is how much time do you have at google for discussing 
and

reviewing the possible solutions (including tests and patches).
Or would you prefer to address the more complex problems in 
extensions at
a later time, since extensions can be released separately from the 
core?



The issues I'm talking about are 
597http://code.google.com/p/google-guice/issues/detail?id=597,
604 http://code.google.com/p/google-guice/issues/detail?id=604, 
730http://code.google.com/p/google-guice/issues/detail?id=730,

739 http://code.google.com/p/google-guice/issues/detail?id=739 (issue
731 http://code.google.com/p/google-guice/issues/detail?id=731 
requests

a new feature which could be used as a workaround).
The underlying cause is that calling ProviderEntityManager.get() 
outside
of a UnitOfWork will implicitly start a UnitOfWork which is never 
ended.


If you do have time to address the above issue I would be more than
willing to participate in the process of getting it solved.

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Re: How much time does google have to fixe larger issues for 4.0?

2013-12-19 Thread Sam Berlin
To be perfectly honest, I would like to drop persist from the extensions we
ship. The original author more or less dropped the code in the repository
and then stopped maintaining it immediately.  No one within Google really
uses it, and we have no familiarity with it.  If another project wants to
fork and maintain it, that would be great.

sam
On Dec 19, 2013 1:50 AM, scl st.clas...@gmx.ch wrote:

 After Sam's call to 
 bumphttps://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/google-guice/ZZpFD3e_8v0the 
 issues we would like to have fixed in 4.0 I went through the list of
 issues regarding the persist extension.
 Simply because I know it the best and because I ran into some of the
 issues myself.

 Going over the list I found a bunch of issues which are more or less
 straight forward to fix.
 But what disturbed me was, that several issues which have gotten a lot of
 attention (or at least a lot of comments) have the same root cause which is
 not trivial to solve.

 So my question is how much time do you have at google for discussing and
 reviewing the possible solutions (including tests and patches).
 Or would you prefer to address the more complex problems in extensions at
 a later time, since extensions can be released separately from the core?


 The issues I'm talking about are 
 597http://code.google.com/p/google-guice/issues/detail?id=597,
 604 http://code.google.com/p/google-guice/issues/detail?id=604, 
 730http://code.google.com/p/google-guice/issues/detail?id=730,
 739 http://code.google.com/p/google-guice/issues/detail?id=739 (issue
 731 http://code.google.com/p/google-guice/issues/detail?id=731 requests
 a new feature which could be used as a workaround).
 The underlying cause is that calling ProviderEntityManager.get() outside
 of a UnitOfWork will implicitly start a UnitOfWork which is never ended.

 If you do have time to address the above issue I would be more than
 willing to participate in the process of getting it solved.

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Re: How much time does google have to fixe larger issues for 4.0?

2013-12-19 Thread Christian Gruber
So that's not entirely true anymore.  We have a few folks using it 
internally.  I had originally been cool with detaching it (I guess I 
still am, since the author did effectively drop it after adding it) from 
the main Guice project, but we should see if there are users internally 
who want to maintain our side of it.


c.

On 19 Dec 2013, at 4:57, Sam Berlin wrote:

To be perfectly honest, I would like to drop persist from the 
extensions we
ship. The original author more or less dropped the code in the 
repository
and then stopped maintaining it immediately.  No one within Google 
really
uses it, and we have no familiarity with it.  If another project wants 
to

fork and maintain it, that would be great.

sam
On Dec 19, 2013 1:50 AM, scl st.clas...@gmx.ch wrote:

After Sam's call to 
bumphttps://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/google-guice/ZZpFD3e_8v0the 
issues we would like to have fixed in 4.0 I went through the list of

issues regarding the persist extension.
Simply because I know it the best and because I ran into some of the
issues myself.

Going over the list I found a bunch of issues which are more or less
straight forward to fix.
But what disturbed me was, that several issues which have gotten a 
lot of
attention (or at least a lot of comments) have the same root cause 
which is

not trivial to solve.

So my question is how much time do you have at google for discussing 
and

reviewing the possible solutions (including tests and patches).
Or would you prefer to address the more complex problems in 
extensions at
a later time, since extensions can be released separately from the 
core?



The issues I'm talking about are 
597http://code.google.com/p/google-guice/issues/detail?id=597,
604 http://code.google.com/p/google-guice/issues/detail?id=604, 
730http://code.google.com/p/google-guice/issues/detail?id=730,
739 http://code.google.com/p/google-guice/issues/detail?id=739 
(issue
731 http://code.google.com/p/google-guice/issues/detail?id=731 
requests

a new feature which could be used as a workaround).
The underlying cause is that calling ProviderEntityManager.get() 
outside
of a UnitOfWork will implicitly start a UnitOfWork which is never 
ended.


If you do have time to address the above issue I would be more than
willing to participate in the process of getting it solved.

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How much time does google have to fixe larger issues for 4.0?

2013-12-18 Thread scl
After Sam's call to 
bumphttps://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/google-guice/ZZpFD3e_8v0the 
issues we would like to have fixed in 4.0 I went through the list of 
issues regarding the persist extension.
Simply because I know it the best and because I ran into some of the issues 
myself.

Going over the list I found a bunch of issues which are more or less 
straight forward to fix.
But what disturbed me was, that several issues which have gotten a lot of 
attention (or at least a lot of comments) have the same root cause which is 
not trivial to solve.

So my question is how much time do you have at google for discussing and 
reviewing the possible solutions (including tests and patches).
Or would you prefer to address the more complex problems in extensions at a 
later time, since extensions can be released separately from the core?


The issues I'm talking about are 
597http://code.google.com/p/google-guice/issues/detail?id=597, 
604 http://code.google.com/p/google-guice/issues/detail?id=604, 
730http://code.google.com/p/google-guice/issues/detail?id=730, 
739 http://code.google.com/p/google-guice/issues/detail?id=739 (issue 
731http://code.google.com/p/google-guice/issues/detail?id=731requests a new 
feature which could be used as a workaround).
The underlying cause is that calling ProviderEntityManager.get() outside 
of a UnitOfWork will implicitly start a UnitOfWork which is never ended.

If you do have time to address the above issue I would be more than willing 
to participate in the process of getting it solved.

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