Re: I've updated my blog article today

2010-12-20 Thread Jeff Schwartz
Hi Mathew,

On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Matthew Hill matt2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for posting this.


It's really my pleasure, Mathew.


 A suggestion for your app: please style the widgets rather than leaving
 them as default.


Many of the GWT widgets are very bland and that's putting it mildly. I've
also found that some are almost impossible to style both in appearance and
in dimensions when using UiBinder such as the TabLayoutPanel which I find
very frustrating.

It also seems that there are 2 'classes' of Widgets in the GWT framework as
far as styling is concerned: there are those that allow a direct override of
their default styles via a stylesheet with selectors and attributes matching
those the widget uses internally and those that don't and I don't understand
why there is this discrepancy. Being able to easily apply styling using css
should be a given with any widget framework yet GWT makes this difficult to
sometimes impossible. I've got a million good things to say about GWT but
this is definitely one area where I believe it needs a major improvement and
overhaul, even if it meant that the framework implement code-breaking
changes to make this happen.

My understanding is that a theme's css selectors are the last to be applied
which means that they override everything you do in your application's style
sheets and inline style declarations. I understand that because that is what
the documentation says but the same documentation also suggests several ways
to override this yet I have been unable to do so and to be quite frank the
documentation doesn't adequately provide decent examples for each of the
suggested ways, especially where you are using UiBinder. And like I infer
above, it shouldn't require a lot of documentation to support styling as it
should be just a matter of applying a style via css, either in a style sheet
or inline. And all that should be required to document a widget's style
should be to list the widget's css selectors. That's it!

So, about your suggestion that I style the widgets rather than leaving them
at their defaults, I've decided to proceed along with development as is and
once all the functionality has been implemented to then go back and focus on
styling. If I cannot style a default widget I will write my own as a
replacement. It isn't something I really want to do and spend my time on but
if I have no other choice then what can I do?


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I've updated my blog article today

2010-12-19 Thread Jeff Schwartz
Hi All,

I've update my blog article today which you can read at
http://jeff-schwartz.blogspot.com/2010/11/screenshots-of-love-my-vehicle-on-web.html.
I've added some new screen shots as well as a few comments on dom
manipulation.

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Re: I've updated my blog article today

2010-12-19 Thread Matthew Hill
Thanks for posting this.

A suggestion for your app: please style the widgets rather than leaving them 
as default.

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