Re: Ui Binder Alternatives

2016-07-26 Thread James Horsley
Something like Elemento + Elemental 2 seems like a great lightweight choice
in the future.

FWIW I agree with Paul that UiBinder plus some top layer of the widget API
(UIObject, Widget, etc.) will get ported over to work with GWT 3.0 by the
community. There's no reason it can't work with Java APT + JsInterop, just
needs the tech investment. I think this will be a huge help for many teams
doing a gradual upgrade.

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 7:43 AM zakaria amine 
wrote:

> Elemento project sounds like an intersting alternative:
> https://github.com/hal/elemento
>
>
> Le dimanche 24 juillet 2016 03:40:02 UTC+2, N Troncoso a écrit :
>>
>> With GWT 3.0, Widgets and UI Binder is losing support. Even besides that,
>> I'm not a huge fan of UI Binder. I'd really just prefer to use vanilla
>> HTML. With that said, I've been searching for other options and I've only
>> found that alternatives are very limited. Even more so, examples of how to
>> integrate alternatives into GWT are basically non-existent. So, my question
>> is, what can I use instead of Widgets and UI Binder and where can I find
>> examples/tutorials/documentation on how to use them in GWT.
>>
>> I found Errai  as one option. But, this
>> seems to be an entire framework, rather than just a template system.
>>
>> Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
>>
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Re: Ui Binder Alternatives

2016-07-26 Thread zakaria amine
Elemento project sounds like an intersting 
alternative: https://github.com/hal/elemento

Le dimanche 24 juillet 2016 03:40:02 UTC+2, N Troncoso a écrit :
>
> With GWT 3.0, Widgets and UI Binder is losing support. Even besides that, 
> I'm not a huge fan of UI Binder. I'd really just prefer to use vanilla 
> HTML. With that said, I've been searching for other options and I've only 
> found that alternatives are very limited. Even more so, examples of how to 
> integrate alternatives into GWT are basically non-existent. So, my question 
> is, what can I use instead of Widgets and UI Binder and where can I find 
> examples/tutorials/documentation on how to use them in GWT.
>
> I found Errai  as one option. But, this seems 
> to be an entire framework, rather than just a template system.
>
> Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
>

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Re: Ui Binder Alternatives

2016-07-26 Thread Paul Stockley
I think there is a good chance that Widgets / UiBinder in some form could 
get ported to GWT 3.0. Probably not by google and probably in separate 
projects from the main GWT compiler stack.

On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 7:58:50 PM UTC-4, Gilberto wrote:
>
> Nobody really knows how GWT 3 will be for sure, but I assume GWT 3.0 will 
> be less of a framework and more of a transpiler from Java to Javascript, 
> which other frameworks will be built on top of it.
>
> So I wouldn't expect a simple template engine to replace UiBinder, but 
> full featured frameworks. You'll have to choose one or implement your own.
>
> But that's for 3.0.
>
> Meanwhile, I see Errai as a very good option, since you can use the HTML 
> template right from your designers, with minimal-to-none modifications to 
> link with your logic code. That's something pretty hard to achieve with 
> UiBinder.
>

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Re: Ui Binder Alternatives

2016-07-25 Thread Alain Ekambi
Errai is the best. Point. Period.

On 26 July 2016 at 01:58, Gilberto  wrote:

> Nobody really knows how GWT 3 will be for sure, but I assume GWT 3.0 will
> be less of a framework and more of a transpiler from Java to Javascript,
> which other frameworks will be built on top of it.
>
> So I wouldn't expect a simple template engine to replace UiBinder, but
> full featured frameworks. You'll have to choose one or implement your own.
>
> But that's for 3.0.
>
> Meanwhile, I see Errai as a very good option, since you can use the HTML
> template right from your designers, with minimal-to-none modifications to
> link with your logic code. That's something pretty hard to achieve with
> UiBinder.
>
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Re: Ui Binder Alternatives

2016-07-25 Thread Gilberto
Nobody really knows how GWT 3 will be for sure, but I assume GWT 3.0 will 
be less of a framework and more of a transpiler from Java to Javascript, 
which other frameworks will be built on top of it.

So I wouldn't expect a simple template engine to replace UiBinder, but full 
featured frameworks. You'll have to choose one or implement your own.

But that's for 3.0.

Meanwhile, I see Errai as a very good option, since you can use the HTML 
template right from your designers, with minimal-to-none modifications to 
link with your logic code. That's something pretty hard to achieve with 
UiBinder.

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Re: Ui Binder Alternatives

2016-07-25 Thread Kay Pac
I don't want to start a huge discussion necessarily but are Widgets really 
losing support?

On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 10:45:29 AM UTC-7, Paul Stockley wrote:
>
> One option when 2.8 is released would be to use GWT React (
> https://github.com/GWTReact/gwt-react). React is a good substitute for 
> the view layer and can be integrated with existing widgets so you can 
> migrate your way to a UiBinderless approach.
>
> On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 9:40:02 PM UTC-4, N Troncoso wrote:
>>
>> With GWT 3.0, Widgets and UI Binder is losing support. Even besides that, 
>> I'm not a huge fan of UI Binder. I'd really just prefer to use vanilla 
>> HTML. With that said, I've been searching for other options and I've only 
>> found that alternatives are very limited. Even more so, examples of how to 
>> integrate alternatives into GWT are basically non-existent. So, my question 
>> is, what can I use instead of Widgets and UI Binder and where can I find 
>> examples/tutorials/documentation on how to use them in GWT.
>>
>> I found Errai  as one option. But, this 
>> seems to be an entire framework, rather than just a template system.
>>
>> Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
>>
>

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Re: Ui Binder Alternatives

2016-07-25 Thread Paul Stockley
One option when 2.8 is released would be to use GWT React (
https://github.com/GWTReact/gwt-react). React is a good substitute for the 
view layer and can be integrated with existing widgets so you can migrate 
your way to a UiBinderless approach.

On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 9:40:02 PM UTC-4, N Troncoso wrote:
>
> With GWT 3.0, Widgets and UI Binder is losing support. Even besides that, 
> I'm not a huge fan of UI Binder. I'd really just prefer to use vanilla 
> HTML. With that said, I've been searching for other options and I've only 
> found that alternatives are very limited. Even more so, examples of how to 
> integrate alternatives into GWT are basically non-existent. So, my question 
> is, what can I use instead of Widgets and UI Binder and where can I find 
> examples/tutorials/documentation on how to use them in GWT.
>
> I found Errai  as one option. But, this seems 
> to be an entire framework, rather than just a template system.
>
> Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
>

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