Re: [GRASS-dev] Website does not work with www for me

2020-08-17 Thread Markus Neteler 
Hi all,

On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 1:28 PM Ondřej Pešek  wrote:
> pá 14. 8. 2020 v 1:17 odesílatel Markus Neteler  napsal:
>> Ondřej Pešek  schrieb am Do., 13. Aug. 2020, 23:50:
>>>
>>> when I go to the GRASS website the lazy way without typing www 
>>> (grass.osgeo.org), I can load the page without a problem.
>>> However, when I want to try it with www (www.grass.osgeo.org), I get the 
>>> "Page not found" error message.
>>>
>>> Is it just me? Is it normal?
>>
>>
>> It's expected as we don't have a DNS record for that
>>
>> Do we want that, too? I'd find it confusing, with and without www. But let's 
>> hear opinions!
>
>
> As so far more voices can be heard saying yes, I have opened an issue for 
> that [1]. Feel free to tag the issue
> later with the `wontfix` label and close it, but at least there will be a 
> record of that decision.
>
> [1] https://github.com/OSGeo/grass-website/issues/219

So, isse kindly solved by Regina, thanks!

From:  Regina Obe:
> Should be resolved at - https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/2495
>
> just redirected https://www.grass.osgeo.org and grass.osgeo.org to 
> https://grass.osgeo.org.

Works smoothly now.

Markus
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Re: [GRASS-dev] Website does not work with www for me

2020-08-14 Thread Sebastiaan Couwenberg 
On 8/14/20 4:28 PM, Maris Nartiss wrote:
> piektd., 2020. g. 14. aug., plkst. 02:17 — lietotājs Markus Neteler
> () rakstīja:
>>
>> Do we want that, too? I'd find it confusing, with and without www. But let's 
>> hear opinions!
>>
>> Markus
> 
> I would vote for setting up a wildcard DNS entry (*.grass.osgeo.org) +
> redirect to grass.osgeo.org thus
> any.domain.that.ends.with.grass.osgeo.org is a valid redirect to GRASS
> main page. Subdomains with explicit DNS records are not affected by
> wildcard entry.

Beware that these days this also implies that SSL certificates need to
be available for these subdomains as well. While Let's Encrypt has
wildcard support, it's much more limited than an explicit list of
subdomains.

Kind Regards,

Bas

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Re: [GRASS-dev] Website does not work with www for me

2020-08-14 Thread Maris Nartiss 
piektd., 2020. g. 14. aug., plkst. 02:17 — lietotājs Markus Neteler
() rakstīja:
>
> Do we want that, too? I'd find it confusing, with and without www. But let's 
> hear opinions!
>
> Markus

I would vote for setting up a wildcard DNS entry (*.grass.osgeo.org) +
redirect to grass.osgeo.org thus
any.domain.that.ends.with.grass.osgeo.org is a valid redirect to GRASS
main page. Subdomains with explicit DNS records are not affected by
wildcard entry.

Māris.
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Re: [GRASS-dev] Website does not work with www for me

2020-08-14 Thread Sebastiaan Couwenberg 
On 8/14/20 1:17 AM, Markus Neteler wrote:
> Do we want that, too? I'd find it confusing, with and without www. But
> let's hear opinions!
I wouldn't bother, there is no need for www. www is appropriate for the
toplevel domain, not for the grass subdomain.

But if you do add support for www, make it redirect to grass.osgeo.org
to make it clear that that is the canonical URL, instead of adding www
as an alias.

Kind Regards,

Bas

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Re: [GRASS-dev] Website does not work with www for me

2020-08-14 Thread Ondřej Pešek 
pá 14. 8. 2020 v 1:17 odesílatel Markus Neteler  napsal:

> Ondřej Pešek  schrieb am Do., 13. Aug. 2020,
> 23:50:
>
>> when I go to the GRASS website the lazy way without typing www (
>> grass.osgeo.org), I can load the page without a problem. However, when I
>> want to try it with www (www.grass.osgeo.org), I get the "Page not
>> found" error message.
>>
>> Is it just me? Is it normal?
>>
>
> It's expected as we don't have a DNS record for that
>
> Do we want that, too? I'd find it confusing, with and without www. But
> let's hear opinions!
>

As so far more voices can be heard saying yes, I have opened an issue for
that [1]. Feel free to tag the issue later with the `wontfix` label and
close it, but at least there will be a record of that decision.

[1] https://github.com/OSGeo/grass-website/issues/219
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Re: [GRASS-dev] Website does not work with www for me

2020-08-14 Thread Jeff McKenna 

On 2020-08-13 8:17 p.m., Markus Neteler wrote:

Hi,

Ondřej Pešek mailto:pesej.ond...@gmail.com>> 
schrieb am Do., 13. Aug. 2020, 23:50:


Howdie,

when I go to the GRASS website the lazy way without typing www
(grass.osgeo.org ), I can load the page
without a problem. However, when I want to try it with www
(www.grass.osgeo.org ), I get the "Page
not found" error message.

Is it just me? Is it normal?


It's expected as we don't have a DNS record for that

Is it internet mimicry? Is it something I should open an issue at
[1] for?

Thank you,
Ondřej

[1] https://github.com/OSGeo/grass-website



Do we want that, too? I'd find it confusing, with and without www. But 
let's hear opinions!




Absolutely, a DNS record for www.grass.osgeo.org is still needed


-jeff





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Re: [GRASS-dev] Website does not work with www for me

2020-08-13 Thread Markus Neteler 
Hi,

Ondřej Pešek  schrieb am Do., 13. Aug. 2020, 23:50:

> Howdie,
>
> when I go to the GRASS website the lazy way without typing www (
> grass.osgeo.org), I can load the page without a problem. However, when I
> want to try it with www (www.grass.osgeo.org), I get the "Page not found"
> error message.
>
> Is it just me? Is it normal?
>

It's expected as we don't have a DNS record for that

Is it internet mimicry? Is it something I should open an issue at [1] for?
>
> Thank you,
> Ondřej
>
> [1] https://github.com/OSGeo/grass-website
>


Do we want that, too? I'd find it confusing, with and without www. But
let's hear opinions!

Markus


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Re: [GRASS-dev] Website does not work with www for me

2020-08-13 Thread Veronica Andreo 
Hi Ondrej,

never tried that before and indeed it does not work when typing the www
neither in firefox nor in Chrome. I'd say it is worth an issue, yes

Thanks
Vero


El jue., 13 ago. 2020 a las 23:50, Ondřej Pešek ()
escribió:

> Howdie,
>
> when I go to the GRASS website the lazy way without typing www (
> grass.osgeo.org), I can load the page without a problem. However, when I
> want to try it with www (www.grass.osgeo.org), I get the "Page not found"
> error message.
>
> Is it just me? Is it normal? Is it internet mimicry? Is it something I
> should open an issue at [1] for?
>
> Thank you,
> Ondřej
>
> [1] https://github.com/OSGeo/grass-website
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[GRASS-dev] Website does not work with www for me

2020-08-13 Thread Ondřej Pešek 
Howdie,

when I go to the GRASS website the lazy way without typing www (
grass.osgeo.org), I can load the page without a problem. However, when I
want to try it with www (www.grass.osgeo.org), I get the "Page not found"
error message.

Is it just me? Is it normal? Is it internet mimicry? Is it something I
should open an issue at [1] for?

Thank you,
Ondřej

[1] https://github.com/OSGeo/grass-website
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