R: [GRASS-dev] New Binary Package Project for winGRASS
Perfect! Da: Martin Landa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Inviato: lun 03/03/2008 16.31 A: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Hamish; GRASS Developer Mailing List Oggetto: Re: [GRASS-dev] New Binary Package Project for winGRASS Marco, 2008/3/3, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > for transparent I meant only the "outside" background. Try with my icons to > take a look on what I mean finally I got the point:-) I changed outer area of icons to be transparent in SVN trunk. http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/changeset/30444 Martin > > Marco > > > Da: Martin Landa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Inviato: lun 03/03/2008 15.17 > A: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: Hamish; GRASS Developer Mailing List > Oggetto: Re: [GRASS-dev] New Binary Package Project for winGRASS > > > > > Hi, > > 2008/3/3, Martin Landa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > icons are beautiful, I don't discuss :-) but I would prefer to have a > > > transparent background, at least for the main grass icon (for windows > it's > > > also a good thing to build a multiple icon archive, with 16,24,32 and > 48 px, > > > if you want with also 64px format, why not) > > > If do you want to give me the original png (the biggest possible) I can > do > > > the job in few minutes. > > > > > > the original png file before I have removed them > > > > > http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/browser/grass/trunk/gui/wxpython/images/?rev=30429 > > > > or 64px ico files should be enough, transparent background would be > > better. BTW 64px icons looks nice in WindowMaker:-) > > I tried to make grass.ico transparent, seems not so nice under Gnome > > http://josef.fsv.cvut.cz/~landa/tmp/grass_ico_trasparent.png > > Martin > > -- > Martin Landa * http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~landa * > -- Martin Landa * http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~landa * ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: R: R: [GRASS-dev] New Binary Package Project for winGRASS
On 03/03/08 10:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Moritz, what release of TCL? I don't know. I have never tried with anything else but 8.4. Moritz Marco *Da:* Moritz Lennert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Inviato:* dom 02/03/2008 20.47 *A:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Cc:* 'Benjamin Ducke'; 'GRASS Developer Mailing List' *Oggetto:* Re: R: [GRASS-dev] New Binary Package Project for winGRASS On 01/03/08 22:14, Marco Pasetti wrote: > Hi Benjamin, > >> Why use ActiveTcl? The regular, GPL'd Tcl compiles without any problems and > can be distributed freely. > > Good question! When I planned the work I dind't considered this option, > because on the wiki it was (it is) suggested to use ActiveTcl; > Probably I should reconsider to build Tcl/Tk from source using MinGW, and > then rebuild GRASS... > > Moritz, what do you think about? Go ahead for GPL'd tcl/tk. Moritz ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: R: [GRASS-dev] New Binary Package Project for winGRASS
Hi Marco, 2008/3/3, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > about the icon, I found it, but it doesn't have the transparent layer! so I > decided to create a new one, using the official png logo, and stretching the > image to constrain it to a squared poroportion (as done for the previous > icon); actually, leaving the original proportion, makes the icon less > visible in 16px format... > The zip archive contains the multi-icon in 16,24,32 and 48 px and the png > used to create the icon. > > this is the address: > http://www.webalice.it/marco.pasetti/grass/grass_icon_package.zip today in the morning I have added some new icons to SVN (better to say moved for gui/wxpython/images, based on png files created by Jachym Cepicky) http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/browser/grass/trunk/lib/init/grass.ico http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/browser/grass/trunk/lib/init/grass_map.ico http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/browser/grass/trunk/lib/init/grass_sql.ico http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/browser/grass/trunk/lib/init/grass_dialog.ico single-icon 64px, I didn't tested on Windows till now. I will take a look at your icons. Martin -- Martin Landa * http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~landa * ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
R: R: [GRASS-dev] New Binary Package Project for winGRASS
Moritz, what release of TCL? Marco Da: Moritz Lennert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Inviato: dom 02/03/2008 20.47 A: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'Benjamin Ducke'; 'GRASS Developer Mailing List' Oggetto: Re: R: [GRASS-dev] New Binary Package Project for winGRASS On 01/03/08 22:14, Marco Pasetti wrote: > Hi Benjamin, > >> Why use ActiveTcl? The regular, GPL'd Tcl compiles without any problems and > can be distributed freely. > > Good question! When I planned the work I dind't considered this option, > because on the wiki it was (it is) suggested to use ActiveTcl; > Probably I should reconsider to build Tcl/Tk from source using MinGW, and > then rebuild GRASS... > > Moritz, what do you think about? Go ahead for GPL'd tcl/tk. Moritz ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
R: [GRASS-dev] New Binary Package Project for winGRASS
Hi friends, yesterday I decided to take a day off, so today I'll take some time before to reply to all... I'm going on in date-received order ;-) >We have a GRASS icon for MS Windows in SVN, could it be used on the top >right corner of the windows and the taskbar? lib/init/grass.ico about the icon, I found it, but it doesn't have the transparent layer! so I decided to create a new one, using the official png logo, and stretching the image to constrain it to a squared poroportion (as done for the previous icon); actually, leaving the original proportion, makes the icon less visible in 16px format... The zip archive contains the multi-icon in 16,24,32 and 48 px and the png used to create the icon. this is the address: http://www.webalice.it/marco.pasetti/grass/grass_icon_package.zip Marco Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] per conto di Hamish Inviato: dom 02/03/2008 19.59 A: Martin Landa Cc: GRASS Developer Mailing List Oggetto: Re: [GRASS-dev] New Binary Package Project for winGRASS Martin Landa wrote: > Some screenshots > http://grass.gdf-hannover.de/wiki/WxPython-based_GUI_for_GRASS#MS_Windows Very nice! these will look great on the main "platforms" screenshots page. One thing I noticed: The start screen screenshot includes "C:/grassdata" which will instantly look very wrong to MS Windows-only users. ? Can C:\ be used or does it need to be a forward slash? Great use of the "grass" desktop background! We have a GRASS icon for MS Windows in SVN, could it be used on the top right corner of the windows and the taskbar? lib/init/grass.ico In the GIS manager window layer list it possible to pack the [100%] box at the right edge of the line? Hamish Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: R: [GRASS-dev] New Binary Package Project for winGRASS
On Sat, 1 Mar 2008, Marco Pasetti wrote: Hi Benjamin, Why use ActiveTcl? The regular, GPL'd Tcl compiles without any problems and can be distributed freely. Good question! When I planned the work I dind't considered this option, because on the wiki it was (it is) suggested to use ActiveTcl; That was simply me being lazy and trying to avoid compiling stuff as much as possible... Probably I should reconsider to build Tcl/Tk from source using MinGW, and then rebuild GRASS... Moritz, what do you think about? Would also be interesting to know how 8.5 is working on Win. AFAIK there are some problems for GRASS with 8.5, I read it in the list in the last weeks. It wasn't clear to me whether or not the problems were due to using a version of NVIZ compiled against Tcl/Tk 8.4 with a runtime 8.5. AFAIK this hasn't yet been clarified. I got it (8.5) working seemingly well about two months ago. It is really easy to compile Tcl/Tk on Msys actually - the build process seems well-tested and mature. As a sidenote, I now have the machine I did my Windows tests on over Christmas accessible and up and running again, so I might be able to get this stuff together and contribute again. But maybe I don't need to, if Marco's stuff does the job. Paul ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: R: [GRASS-dev] New Binary Package Project for winGRASS
On 01/03/08 22:14, Marco Pasetti wrote: Hi Benjamin, Why use ActiveTcl? The regular, GPL'd Tcl compiles without any problems and can be distributed freely. Good question! When I planned the work I dind't considered this option, because on the wiki it was (it is) suggested to use ActiveTcl; Probably I should reconsider to build Tcl/Tk from source using MinGW, and then rebuild GRASS... Moritz, what do you think about? Go ahead for GPL'd tcl/tk. Moritz ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
R: [GRASS-dev] New Binary Package Project for winGRASS
Hi Benjamin, >Why use ActiveTcl? The regular, GPL'd Tcl compiles without any problems and can be distributed freely. Good question! When I planned the work I dind't considered this option, because on the wiki it was (it is) suggested to use ActiveTcl; Probably I should reconsider to build Tcl/Tk from source using MinGW, and then rebuild GRASS... Moritz, what do you think about? >Would also be interesting to know how >8.5 is working on Win. AFAIK there are some problems for GRASS with 8.5, I read it in the list in the last weeks. Marco -Messaggio originale- Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Per conto di Benjamin Ducke Inviato: sabato 1 marzo 2008 21.45 Cc: GRASS Developer Mailing List Oggetto: Re: [GRASS-dev] New Binary Package Project for winGRASS Marco Pasetti wrote: > > 1. because I added some extra-supports in GRASS (such as PostgreSQL, > SQLite and ActiveTcl), I could use Dependency Walker to securely check > what files are needed and then add them in ../bin dir, in order to > prepare a self contained package/installer, whitout the need of asking > the user to install other pieces of software; but, can I do that (I > mean about licenses, permissions, and so on...)? About PostgreSQL and > SQLite I rebuilt packages from source, while about ActiveTcl I used prebuit windows installer. Why use ActiveTcl? The regular, GPL'd Tcl compiles without any problems and can be distributed freely. Would also be interesting to know how 8.5 is working on Win. > > 3. do we really need MSYS? Quantum GIS self installer still have MSYS > inside (only few files), whithout the need of installing it > separately. Can we do do the same? Yes, please. The sh interpreter is vastly superior to cmd.exe. -- Benjamin Ducke, M.A. Archäoinformatik (Archaeoinformation Science) Institut für Ur- und Frühgeschichte (Inst. of Prehistoric and Historic Archaeology) Christian-Albrechts-Universität zu Kiel Johanna-Mestorf-Straße 2-6 D 24098 Kiel Germany Tel.: ++49 (0)431 880-3378 / -3379 Fax : ++49 (0)431 880-7300 www.uni-kiel.de/ufg ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
R: R: R: [GRASS-dev] New Binary Package Project for winGRASS
OK PS: Expat is for XML Marco -Messaggio originale- Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Per conto di Benjamin Ducke Inviato: sabato 1 marzo 2008 21.40 Cc: 'GRASS Developer Mailing List' Oggetto: Re: R: R: [GRASS-dev] New Binary Package Project for winGRASS Marco Pasetti wrote: > Hi, > >> maybe it would be better, or at least to make note like "this package >> is > required for GRASS compilation", etc. > > Ok. I'll do that later, before to release the final version. > > What about GEOS, GSL and Expat? Actually, GRASS uses none of them, but > GDAL uses GEOS, I'm not sure if it uses GSL (even if I think not) and > it would Only QGIS uses GSL for the georeferencer plugin. > use Expat ...if I could be able to enable that support in GDAL :-) For what? > > So, summarizing, for the GRASS guide only, should I remove GSL, Expat > and GEOS or leave only GEOS? Only GEOS seems to make sense to me. Benjamin > > Marco > > -Messaggio originale- > Da: Martin Landa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Inviato: sabato 1 marzo 2008 14.44 > A: Marco Pasetti > Cc: GRASS Developer Mailing List > Oggetto: Re: R: [GRASS-dev] New Binary Package Project for winGRASS > > Hi, > > 2008/3/1, Marco Pasetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Related to this (the guide): what do you think about keeping GRASS + >> Quantum GIS building guide together? Actually some things (like >> expat, geos and gsl) are not needed by GRASS, but they are for QGIS. >> Should I prepare two different documents, one for GRASS only and one >> for both GRASS and QGIS > > maybe it would be better, or at least to make note like "this package > is required for GRASS compilation", etc. > > Martin > > -- > Martin Landa * http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~landa > * > > ___ > grass-dev mailing list > grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev > > -- Benjamin Ducke, M.A. Archäoinformatik (Archaeoinformation Science) Institut für Ur- und Frühgeschichte (Inst. of Prehistoric and Historic Archaeology) Christian-Albrechts-Universität zu Kiel Johanna-Mestorf-Straße 2-6 D 24098 Kiel Germany Tel.: ++49 (0)431 880-3378 / -3379 Fax : ++49 (0)431 880-7300 www.uni-kiel.de/ufg ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: R: R: [GRASS-dev] New Binary Package Project for winGRASS
Marco Pasetti wrote: Hi, maybe it would be better, or at least to make note like "this package is required for GRASS compilation", etc. Ok. I'll do that later, before to release the final version. What about GEOS, GSL and Expat? Actually, GRASS uses none of them, but GDAL uses GEOS, I'm not sure if it uses GSL (even if I think not) and it would Only QGIS uses GSL for the georeferencer plugin. use Expat ...if I could be able to enable that support in GDAL :-) For what? So, summarizing, for the GRASS guide only, should I remove GSL, Expat and GEOS or leave only GEOS? Only GEOS seems to make sense to me. Benjamin Marco -Messaggio originale- Da: Martin Landa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Inviato: sabato 1 marzo 2008 14.44 A: Marco Pasetti Cc: GRASS Developer Mailing List Oggetto: Re: R: [GRASS-dev] New Binary Package Project for winGRASS Hi, 2008/3/1, Marco Pasetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Related to this (the guide): what do you think about keeping GRASS + Quantum GIS building guide together? Actually some things (like expat, geos and gsl) are not needed by GRASS, but they are for QGIS. Should I prepare two different documents, one for GRASS only and one for both GRASS and QGIS maybe it would be better, or at least to make note like "this package is required for GRASS compilation", etc. Martin -- Martin Landa * http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~landa * ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev -- Benjamin Ducke, M.A. Archäoinformatik (Archaeoinformation Science) Institut für Ur- und Frühgeschichte (Inst. of Prehistoric and Historic Archaeology) Christian-Albrechts-Universität zu Kiel Johanna-Mestorf-Straße 2-6 D 24098 Kiel Germany Tel.: ++49 (0)431 880-3378 / -3379 Fax : ++49 (0)431 880-7300 www.uni-kiel.de/ufg ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
R: R: [GRASS-dev] New Binary Package Project for winGRASS
Hi, >maybe it would be better, or at least to make note like "this package is required for GRASS compilation", etc. Ok. I'll do that later, before to release the final version. What about GEOS, GSL and Expat? Actually, GRASS uses none of them, but GDAL uses GEOS, I'm not sure if it uses GSL (even if I think not) and it would use Expat ...if I could be able to enable that support in GDAL :-) So, summarizing, for the GRASS guide only, should I remove GSL, Expat and GEOS or leave only GEOS? Marco -Messaggio originale- Da: Martin Landa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Inviato: sabato 1 marzo 2008 14.44 A: Marco Pasetti Cc: GRASS Developer Mailing List Oggetto: Re: R: [GRASS-dev] New Binary Package Project for winGRASS Hi, 2008/3/1, Marco Pasetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Related to this (the guide): what do you think about keeping GRASS + > Quantum GIS building guide together? Actually some things (like > expat, geos and gsl) are not needed by GRASS, but they are for QGIS. > Should I prepare two different documents, one for GRASS only and one > for both GRASS and QGIS maybe it would be better, or at least to make note like "this package is required for GRASS compilation", etc. Martin -- Martin Landa * http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~landa * ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
Re: R: [GRASS-dev] New Binary Package Project for winGRASS
Hi, 2008/3/1, Marco Pasetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Related to this (the guide): what do you think about keeping GRASS + Quantum > GIS building guide together? Actually some things (like expat, geos and gsl) > are not needed by GRASS, but they are for QGIS. Should I prepare two > different documents, one for GRASS only and one for both GRASS and QGIS maybe it would be better, or at least to make note like "this package is required for GRASS compilation", etc. Martin -- Martin Landa * http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~landa * ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
R: [GRASS-dev] New Binary Package Project for winGRASS
Hi Martin, Be careful with the guide, it's still a WIP: refresh it regularly, updates are on the road... (even if I think that GRASS section is almost complete) Related to this (the guide): what do you think about keeping GRASS + Quantum GIS building guide together? Actually some things (like expat, geos and gsl) are not needed by GRASS, but they are for QGIS. Should I prepare two different documents, one for GRASS only and one for both GRASS and QGIS (since I actually don't see great utility of using QGIS without GRASS plugin, which is instead a great feature of QGIS, specially for not advanced users)? PS: thanks for the "great" ;-) -Messaggio originale- Da: Martin Landa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Inviato: sabato 1 marzo 2008 14.00 A: Marco Pasetti Cc: GRASS Developer Mailing List Oggetto: Re: [GRASS-dev] New Binary Package Project for winGRASS Ciao Marco, 2008/3/1, Marco Pasetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: [snip] > 2. since the new wxPython GUI still doesn't work on windows (for > RC05, I'll check on trunk in the next days), I think that we can > avoid to include it in the RC05 package as requirement; why tell the > user to install Python and wxPython if the new GUI doesn't work? right now I am following your great installation guide, then I will try to make wxGUI working on Windows too (basic features for now). Without functional wxGUI doesn't make sense to require at least wxPython, Python maybe because of SWIG interface. [snip] Martin -- Martin Landa * http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~landa * ___ grass-dev mailing list grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev
