Re: [GRASS-PSC] GRASS GIS Budget request for 2020
On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 1:03 PM Moritz Lennert wrote: > On 10/01/20 20:53, Markus Neteler wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 4:00 AM Vaclav Petras wrote: > >> On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 6:58 AM Markus Neteler wrote: > >>> On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 12:57 PM Moritz Lennert > Am 6. Januar 2020 12:50:12 MEZ schrieb Markus Neteler > : > > Hi PSC, > > > > Below the email which I had sent to the board. > > However, we need to modify the request as code sprint support needs to > > be requests separately from the general (current) request. > > > > Hence, I have separated out the sprint requests (to be submitted later > > this year): > > https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GRASS_GIS_Budget_2020#Planned_Expenses > >> > >> > >> Thank you. I like that the new budget is more compatible with OSGeo. I was > >> just thinking that the meetup item > >> should go to the the events [1] since it is likely to be more outreach > >> event than a sprint. Do you have any thoughts on that? > > > > I just made it " Events/Community Sprints" to not overcomplicate the table. > > > >> Perhaps more importantly, I don't understand where the "delta to be > >> fundraiser" is coming from, although it generally makes sense to have it. > > > > "Delta to be fundraised" is indicating how much money we still lack to > > get an even budget. > > > > (only USD here) > > TOTAL 15,704 > > > > from that: > > - Request to OSGeo (as main budget) 8,973 (i.e. excluding > > Events/Community Sprints) > > - Request to OSGeo (as Sprint support) 6,731 > > > > Hence we have the: > > Delta to be fundraised 3,704 > > > If our total budget is 15,704, and we request > > 8,973 + 6,731 = 15,704 > > then there is no delta to be fundraised, everything is covered via the > requested money. You found the mistake: we can only request 2000 USD (AFAIK) for sprints. > So, I also do not understand what this delta represents... I have updated the wiki: https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GRASS_GIS_Budget_2020#Planned_Expenses Please check again. Markus ___ grass-psc mailing list grass-psc@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-psc
Re: [GRASS-PSC] GRASS GIS Budget request for 2020
On 10/01/20 20:53, Markus Neteler wrote: On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 4:00 AM Vaclav Petras wrote: On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 6:58 AM Markus Neteler wrote: On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 12:57 PM Moritz Lennert Am 6. Januar 2020 12:50:12 MEZ schrieb Markus Neteler : Hi PSC, Below the email which I had sent to the board. However, we need to modify the request as code sprint support needs to be requests separately from the general (current) request. Hence, I have separated out the sprint requests (to be submitted later this year): https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GRASS_GIS_Budget_2020#Planned_Expenses Thank you. I like that the new budget is more compatible with OSGeo. I was just thinking that the meetup item should go to the the events [1] since it is likely to be more outreach event than a sprint. Do you have any thoughts on that? I just made it " Events/Community Sprints" to not overcomplicate the table. Perhaps more importantly, I don't understand where the "delta to be fundraiser" is coming from, although it generally makes sense to have it. "Delta to be fundraised" is indicating how much money we still lack to get an even budget. (only USD here) TOTAL 15,704 from that: - Request to OSGeo (as main budget) 8,973 (i.e. excluding Events/Community Sprints) - Request to OSGeo (as Sprint support) 6,731 Hence we have the: Delta to be fundraised 3,704 If our total budget is 15,704, and we request 8,973 + 6,731 = 15,704 then there is no delta to be fundraised, everything is covered via the requested money. So, I also do not understand what this delta represents... Moritz ___ grass-psc mailing list grass-psc@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-psc
Re: [GRASS-PSC] GRASS GIS Budget request for 2020
On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 4:00 AM Vaclav Petras wrote: > On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 6:58 AM Markus Neteler wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 12:57 PM Moritz Lennert >> > Am 6. Januar 2020 12:50:12 MEZ schrieb Markus Neteler : >> > >Hi PSC, >> > > >> > >Below the email which I had sent to the board. >> > >However, we need to modify the request as code sprint support needs to >> > >be requests separately from the general (current) request. >> > > >> > >Hence, I have separated out the sprint requests (to be submitted later >> > >this year): >> > >https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GRASS_GIS_Budget_2020#Planned_Expenses > > > Thank you. I like that the new budget is more compatible with OSGeo. I was > just thinking that the meetup item > should go to the the events [1] since it is likely to be more outreach event > than a sprint. Do you have any thoughts on that? I just made it " Events/Community Sprints" to not overcomplicate the table. > Perhaps more importantly, I don't understand where the "delta to be > fundraiser" is coming from, although it generally makes sense to have it. "Delta to be fundraised" is indicating how much money we still lack to get an even budget. (only USD here) TOTAL 15,704 from that: - Request to OSGeo (as main budget) 8,973 (i.e. excluding Events/Community Sprints) - Request to OSGeo (as Sprint support) 6,731 Hence we have the: Delta to be fundraised 3,704 I have re-worded it accordingly here: https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GRASS_GIS_Budget_2020#Planned_Expenses The delta to be fundraised we can address like this: - leftover money from 2019 - new/ongoing paypal campaign at https://www.paypal.com/pools/c/86YKZiIEPV - other sponsoring > [1] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/grass-psc/2019-December/002089.html [...] >> > Sprint budget thus only includes catering and possibly some venue costs ? [...] > I quickly went through the past sprint budgets and got cost for each budget > item and then combined them. The previous sprints were lucky enough and were > always able to reduce one or more items in the budget to zero or nearly zero > (e.g., free venue), so this counts for kind of a worst case, e.g., no > attendees being able to sponsor their travel. Otherwise, I assume same > funding usage Jody mentions [2]. That seem to fit with what we were doing so > far. Yes, as the figure includes travel support. > The separate travel grants item is for travel to other sprints than the GRASS > GIS ones, e.g., the OSGeo one, possibly even to other events for promotional > purposes, and also as a backup if more is needed for the GRASS GIS sprint. > > Please, let me know if you have more questions about this and/or make any > changes. I just provided my best guess for a 2020 plan. For me it is fine. I have updated the OSGeo budget page as well. Markus > Vaclav > > [2] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/grass-psc/2020-January/002099.html > -- Markus Neteler, PhD https://www.mundialis.de - free data with free software https://grass.osgeo.org https://courses.neteler.org/blog ___ grass-psc mailing list grass-psc@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-psc
Re: [GRASS-PSC] GRASS GIS Budget request for 2020
On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 6:58 AM Markus Neteler wrote: > On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 12:57 PM Moritz Lennert > wrote: > > Am 6. Januar 2020 12:50:12 MEZ schrieb Markus Neteler >: > > >Hi PSC, > > > > > >Below the email which I had sent to the board. > > >However, we need to modify the request as code sprint support needs to > > >be requests separately from the general (current) request. > > > > > >Hence, I have separated out the sprint requests (to be submitted later > > >this year): > > >https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GRASS_GIS_Budget_2020#Planned_Expenses Thank you. I like that the new budget is more compatible with OSGeo. I was just thinking that the meetup item should go to the the events [1] since it is likely to be more outreach event than a sprint. Do you have any thoughts on that? Perhaps more importantly, I don't understand where the "delta to be fundraiser" is coming from, although it generally makes sense to have it. [1] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/grass-psc/2019-December/002089.html > > > > > > >Now: > > >- please verify that the figures are right > > > > Sprint budget thus only includes catering and possibly some venue costs ? > > > > If that is the case, 2000 seems a lot, no ? > > I think this was inserted by @Vaclav Petras AFAIK. > Maybe he can enlighten us? > I quickly went through the past sprint budgets and got cost for each budget item and then combined them. The previous sprints were lucky enough and were always able to reduce one or more items in the budget to zero or nearly zero (e.g., free venue), so this counts for kind of a worst case, e.g., no attendees being able to sponsor their travel. Otherwise, I assume same funding usage Jody mentions [2]. That seem to fit with what we were doing so far. The separate travel grants item is for travel to other sprints than the GRASS GIS ones, e.g., the OSGeo one, possibly even to other events for promotional purposes, and also as a backup if more is needed for the GRASS GIS sprint. Please, let me know if you have more questions about this and/or make any changes. I just provided my best guess for a 2020 plan. Vaclav [2] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/grass-psc/2020-January/002099.html ___ grass-psc mailing list grass-psc@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-psc
Re: [GRASS-PSC] GRASS GIS Budget request for 2020
Jody here, think I am still on this list from a while back ... Code sprint funding has seen a wide range of use at OSGeo: - Catering / venue as Mortiz notes - Travel / Accommodation - Financial assistance to help folks attend - Reduction in attendance fee (as proposed for Bolsena sprint this year) Hunt through the wiki and board mailing list for example. -- Jody Garnett On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 03:57, Moritz Lennert wrote: > > > Am 6. Januar 2020 12:50:12 MEZ schrieb Markus Neteler : > >Hi PSC, > > > >Below the email which I had sent to the board. > >However, we need to modify the request as code sprint support needs to > >be requests separately from the general (current) request. > > > >Hence, I have separated out the sprint requests (to be submitted later > >this year): > >https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GRASS_GIS_Budget_2020#Planned_Expenses > > > >Now: > >- please verify that the figures are right > > Sprint budget thus only includes catering and possibly some venue costs ? > > If that is the case, 2000 seems a lot, no ? > > Moritz > ___ > grass-psc mailing list > grass-psc@lists.osgeo.org > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-psc ___ grass-psc mailing list grass-psc@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-psc
Re: [GRASS-PSC] GRASS GIS Budget request for 2020
On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 12:57 PM Moritz Lennert wrote: > Am 6. Januar 2020 12:50:12 MEZ schrieb Markus Neteler : > >Hi PSC, > > > >Below the email which I had sent to the board. > >However, we need to modify the request as code sprint support needs to > >be requests separately from the general (current) request. > > > >Hence, I have separated out the sprint requests (to be submitted later > >this year): > >https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GRASS_GIS_Budget_2020#Planned_Expenses > > > >Now: > >- please verify that the figures are right > > Sprint budget thus only includes catering and possibly some venue costs ? > > If that is the case, 2000 seems a lot, no ? I think this was inserted by @Vaclav Petras AFAIK. Maybe he can enlighten us? Markus ___ grass-psc mailing list grass-psc@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-psc
Re: [GRASS-PSC] GRASS GIS Budget request for 2020
Am 6. Januar 2020 12:50:12 MEZ schrieb Markus Neteler : >Hi PSC, > >Below the email which I had sent to the board. >However, we need to modify the request as code sprint support needs to >be requests separately from the general (current) request. > >Hence, I have separated out the sprint requests (to be submitted later >this year): >https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GRASS_GIS_Budget_2020#Planned_Expenses > >Now: >- please verify that the figures are right Sprint budget thus only includes catering and possibly some venue costs ? If that is the case, 2000 seems a lot, no ? Moritz ___ grass-psc mailing list grass-psc@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-psc
Re: [GRASS-PSC] GRASS GIS Budget request for 2020
Hi PSC, Below the email which I had sent to the board. However, we need to modify the request as code sprint support needs to be requests separately from the general (current) request. Hence, I have separated out the sprint requests (to be submitted later this year): https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GRASS_GIS_Budget_2020#Planned_Expenses Now: - please verify that the figures are right Once done (ASAP!), we need to update the entry here: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Budget_2020#OSGeo_Projects thanks Markus On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 6:15 PM Markus Neteler wrote: > > Dear Board, > > The GRASS GIS PSC has been drafted the 2020 budget at > https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GRASS_GIS_Budget_2020 > > and added a related reference to > https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Budget_2020#OSGeo_Projects > > Importantly (as already discussed off-list with the OSGeo treasurer) > we would like to shift the 6000 USD assigned to the development of the > new GRASS GIS web site [1] from 2019 to 2020 due to delays in the > development. > > Thanks for your continued support! > > Best regards, > Markus > > [1] The draft web site is now at https://staging.grass.osgeo.org/ > (hugo based, hourly updated from GitHub). > > -- > Markus Neteler, PhD > GRASS GIS PSC Chair > https://www.mundialis.de - free data with free software > https://grass.osgeo.org > https://courses.neteler.org/blog -- Markus Neteler, PhD https://www.mundialis.de - free data with free software https://grass.osgeo.org https://courses.neteler.org/blog ___ grass-psc mailing list grass-psc@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-psc
