Re: [GRASS-PSC] PSC Meeting minutes - May 13th, 2022

[Markus Neteler]

On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 5:51 PM Markus Neteler  wrote:
> Hi Moritz,
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 10:01 AM Moritz Lennert
>  wrote:
> ...
> > I would also like to ask if anyone else would like to take over the role of 
> > treasurer. It's not a very time-consuming job,
> > but I need to reduce my mental load.
>
> Some time has passed and the PSC should consider your request :-)
>
> Any volunteers?

Alright... since I wrote the reply above I now volunteer :-) Maybe
there are more candidates?

I suppose that this needs a formal PSC motion and decision.

> > An important issue is to consolidate the reorganization of our accounts 
> > (currently we have money left
> > in the €-based PayPal money pool linked to my personal PayPal account

IMHO this account should be urgently emptied.

> >  and a $-based account at
> > Opencollective), knowing that we have interactions in both currencies.
> >
> > Moritz

And also this table needs to be updated:
https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GRASS_GIS_Budget_2022

Markus


-- 
Markus Neteler, PhD
https://www.mundialis.de - free data with free software
https://grass.osgeo.org
https://courses.neteler.org/blog
___
grass-psc mailing list
grass-psc@lists.osgeo.org
https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-psc

Re: [GRASS-PSC] PSC Meeting minutes - May 13th, 2022

[Markus Neteler]

Hi Moritz,

On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 10:01 AM Moritz Lennert
 wrote:
...
> I would also like to ask if anyone else would like to take over the role of 
> treasurer. It's not a very time-consuming job,
> but I need to reduce my mental load.

Some time has passed and the PSC should consider your request :-)

Any volunteers?

> An important issue is to consolidate the reorganization of our accounts 
> (currently we have money left
> in the €-based PayPal money pool linked to my personal PayPal account and a 
> $-based account at
> Opencollective), knowing that we have interactions in both currencies.
>
> Moritz

Markus
___
grass-psc mailing list
grass-psc@lists.osgeo.org
https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-psc

Re: [GRASS-PSC] PSC Meeting minutes - May 13th, 2022

[Veronica Andreo]

Hi Moritz

El mar, 17 may 2022 a las 10:01, Moritz Lennert (<
mlenn...@club.worldonline.be>) escribió:
[...]

> A few remarks:
>
> - No GSoC students: do we have an idea about why so few applications? Any
> ideas on how to improve that?
>
> - Sponsorship rules : please be aware that AFAIK such rules are
> country-specific, so what counts as compensation for money received and
> what that means in terms of the money being subject to VAT will have to be
> checked on a case-by-case basis.
>
> - In the email announcing that I wasn't able to attend I suggested two
> points, but they don't seem to have been covered:
>

For some reason I did not get your reply (as you know this has happened
with other emails too). Markus pointed to the items you sent, but we didn't
make it to discuss them or the discussion deviated into other things; I do
not remember tbh. Apologies

>
>1) Did you discuss any form of communication strategy about the student
> grant results with a specific eye on motivating donations ?
>

I think the best would be that the students themselves provided us with a
draft news item for the website, so we then use it to show off and call for
donations to grant more of these scholarships/awards. I created 2 twitter
threads when Caitlin and Linda were more or less in the middle of the 2
month period, but I agree we need something else. I have been calling for
help to generate more content, but there have been no answers at all.

   2) If we want to claim the money budgeted for GRASS GIS in the OSGeo
> budget, we need an official decision of the PSC. Did you discuss this?
>

No, we did not. Do we need a motion to claim for the money or can I or
anyone else in the PSC write to the board on behalf of the whole PSC and
claim for it?


> I would also like to ask if anyone else would like to take over the role
> of treasurer. It's not a very time-consuming job, but I need to reduce my
> mental load. An important issue is to consolidate the reorganization of our
> accounts (currently we have money left in the €-based PayPal money pool
> linked to my personal PayPal account and a $-based account at
> Opencollective), knowing that we have interactions in both currencies.
>

Volunteers?

Best,
Vero
___
grass-psc mailing list
grass-psc@lists.osgeo.org
https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-psc

Re: [GRASS-PSC] PSC Meeting minutes - May 13th, 2022

[Anna Petrášová]

On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 4:01 AM Moritz Lennert 
wrote:

> Hi !
>
> Le 13 mai 2022 23:21:07 GMT+02:00, Veronica Andreo 
> a écrit :
> >Dear all,
> >
> >Here are the PSC meeting minutes of our meeting today, May 13, 2022:
> >https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/PSC/Minutes/PSC_Meeting_20220513
>
> Thanks for those minutes!
>
> A few remarks:
>
> - No GSoC students: do we have an idea about why so few applications? Any
> ideas on how to improve that?
>

We got 2 applications, in one case the student never engaged anybody and in
the other the student didn't pass the test Vashek gave them. There were
couple of email threads on the general mentor list that noted lower
engagement this year with possible reasons varying from low stipend, covid,
changed rules, and badly designed GSoC page. On the other hand, the GSoC
administrators reported higher number of applications than usual. So I
don't know. I believe the best case for us is when a student personally
connected to a GRASS dev/community member applies. We should also think
about how to reach a CS community, but GSoC stipend might not be as
competitive as it used to be, so the student motivation needs to be about
joining open source community, not just money.


>
> - Sponsorship rules : please be aware that AFAIK such rules are
> country-specific, so what counts as compensation for money received and
> what that means in terms of the money being subject to VAT will have to be
> checked on a case-by-case basis.
>
> - In the email announcing that I wasn't able to attend I suggested two
> points, but they don't seem to have been covered:
>
>1) Did you discuss any form of communication strategy about the student
> grant results with a specific eye on motivating donations ?
>
>2) If we want to claim the money budgeted for GRASS GIS in the OSGeo
> budget, we need an official decision of the PSC. Did you discuss this?
>
> I would also like to ask if anyone else would like to take over the role
> of treasurer. It's not a very time-consuming job, but I need to reduce my
> mental load. An important issue is to consolidate the reorganization of our
> accounts (currently we have money left in the €-based PayPal money pool
> linked to my personal PayPal account and a $-based account at
> Opencollective), knowing that we have interactions in both currencies.
>
> Moritz
> ___
> grass-psc mailing list
> grass-psc@lists.osgeo.org
> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-psc
>
___
grass-psc mailing list
grass-psc@lists.osgeo.org
https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-psc

Re: [GRASS-PSC] PSC Meeting minutes - May 13th, 2022

[Moritz Lennert]

Hi !

Le 13 mai 2022 23:21:07 GMT+02:00, Veronica Andreo  a 
écrit :
>Dear all,
>
>Here are the PSC meeting minutes of our meeting today, May 13, 2022:
>https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/PSC/Minutes/PSC_Meeting_20220513

Thanks for those minutes!

A few remarks:

- No GSoC students: do we have an idea about why so few applications? Any ideas 
on how to improve that?

- Sponsorship rules : please be aware that AFAIK such rules are 
country-specific, so what counts as compensation for money received and what 
that means in terms of the money being subject to VAT will have to be checked 
on a case-by-case basis.

- In the email announcing that I wasn't able to attend I suggested two points, 
but they don't seem to have been covered:

   1) Did you discuss any form of communication strategy about the student 
grant results with a specific eye on motivating donations ?

   2) If we want to claim the money budgeted for GRASS GIS in the OSGeo budget, 
we need an official decision of the PSC. Did you discuss this?

I would also like to ask if anyone else would like to take over the role of 
treasurer. It's not a very time-consuming job, but I need to reduce my mental 
load. An important issue is to consolidate the reorganization of our accounts 
(currently we have money left in the €-based PayPal money pool linked to my 
personal PayPal account and a $-based account at Opencollective), knowing that 
we have interactions in both currencies.

Moritz 
___
grass-psc mailing list
grass-psc@lists.osgeo.org
https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-psc

Re: [GRASS-PSC] PSC Meeting minutes - May 13th, 2022

[Stefan Blumentrath]

Hi Vero,

Thanks for the detailed minutes.
Just a note on "GRASS on Windows":

  1.  OpenMP support should already be there (see: 
https://github.com/OSGeo/grass/commit/53dfd4a73289271569a5b499576a0fb4ab8f6c99#diff-b9bc209c3d30b07d8326bc89c625727071056dcb81792ef25ef1daf34c3d932bR44
 ).
  2.  The problem with PDAL is that it is compiled with MSVC, so GRASS with GCC 
build cannot be compiled against it. It was mentioned that a CMake build for 
GRASS could be a solution (see: https://github.com/OSGeo/grass/issues/1821)... 
but that seems a bigger task...

Cheers
Stefan

From: grass-psc  On Behalf Of Veronica Andreo
Sent: fredag 13. mai 2022 23:21
To: GRASS-PSC 
Subject: [GRASS-PSC] PSC Meeting minutes - May 13th, 2022

Dear all,

Here are the PSC meeting minutes of our meeting today, May 13, 2022:
https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/PSC/Minutes/PSC_Meeting_20220513

Some topics covered were:
- Draft RFCs: Python version, release procedure, version numbering
- GSoC: students didn't pass the test, so no students this year
- Results of student grants
- Upcoming releases
- Translations in weblate vs transifex
- GRASS in Windows

For details, please see the link above. Comments, suggestions and contributions 
are more than welcome :)

Thanks everyone!

Have a nice weekend,
Vero

--
Dra. Verónica Andreo
Investigadora Asistente de CONICET
Instituto Gulich (CONAE - UNC)
Centro Espacial Teófilo Tabanera (CETT)
Falda del Cañete - Córdoba, Argentina
+54 3547 40 int. 1153
https://veroandreo.gitlab.io/
___
grass-psc mailing list
grass-psc@lists.osgeo.org
https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-psc