Re: [GRASS-user] grass-7.8.5 on Fedora 33

2020-12-31 Thread mdwxman via grass-user
As a recent GRASS GIS-installation sufferer, I can explain what I did.  
Basically I followed Markus Neteler's instructions explicitly for installing 
7.8.5.  There were some small mistakes but he carefully corrected them.  I used 
his instructions from the User Group regarding 7.8.5, and the instructions 
called for a two-step process (or three steps): download the 7.8.5 source 
tarball, use the script preparing for the compilation (which guarantees all the 
required software is installed), then run the compile, make, make install steps.


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On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 7:33 AM, Roger Bivand  
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> I install from source, so cannot check. PROJ 7 needs Tiff and curl (to access
> the CDN) over and above the sqlite3 requirement introduced by PROJ 6. Is the
> install process pulling in PROJ > 6? I see 6.3.2 as the F33 current version,
> but >= 7 would explain complaints about missing Tiff:
>
> $ pkg-config proj --libs --static
> -L/usr/local/lib -lproj -lsqlite3 -ltiff -lcurl -lstdc++
>
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[GRASS-user] Even I Don't Believe It: GRASS GIS worked!!

2020-12-28 Thread mdwxman via grass-user
Well, sports fans, after another day of doing this and doing that, entering 
"grass78 --gui" suddenly displayed the well-illustrated gui!!

I was certain it would crash, but there it is on one of the other monitors: in 
living color. I'll rehearse the details tomorrow since here in the Central time 
zone of North America it's now 11:30 pm.

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Re: [GRASS-user] Umm...OK, How do I start this thing?

2020-12-28 Thread mdwxman via grass-user
Thanks Rich. If this were a jigsaw puzzle I’d be missing the third piece.

Michael Allen
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On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 7:48 AM, Rich Shepard  wrote:

> On Mon, 28 Dec 2020, mdwxman wrote:
>
>> Very strange things happening here and I don't understand.
>
>> 1. I ran make install in the src directory and it finished without error.
>> grass78 is in /usr/local/bin as it should be. But running grass78 from
>> this directory produces this output:
>>
>> (base) [root@godelsrevenge ~]# /usr/local/bin/grass78 --gui
>> Starting GRASS GIS...
>> ERROR: wxGUI requires wxPython. No module named 'wx'
>>
>> I hope I've included enough detail to help with this.
>
> Michael,
>
> I faced this issue a few years ago. The solution is to add this line to
> ~/.bash_profile:
>
> export GRASS_WXVERSION=4.1.0
>
> or whichever version of wxPython is installed on that host.
>
> HTH,
>
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Re: [GRASS-user] Umm...OK, How do I start this thing?

2020-12-27 Thread mdwxman via grass-user
Very strange things happening here and I don't understand.

1.  I ran make install in the src directory and it finished without error.  
grass78 is in /usr/local/bin as it should be.  But running grass78 from this 
directory produces this output:

(base) [root@godelsrevenge ~]# /usr/local/bin/grass78 --gui
Starting GRASS GIS...
ERROR: wxGUI requires wxPython. No module named 'wx'
You can still use GRASS GIS modules in the command line or in Python.
ERROR: Error in GUI startup. See messages above (if any) and if necessary, 
please report this error to the GRASS developers.
On systems with package manager, make sure you have the right GUI package, 
probably named grass-gui, installed.
To run GRASS GIS in text mode use the --text flag.
Use '--help' for further options
 grass78 --help
See also: https://grass.osgeo.org/grass78/manuals/helptext.html
Exiting...
(base) [root@godelsrevenge ~]#

Checking for wxPython produces this:

(base) [root@godelsrevenge ~]# find / -name wxPython
find: File system loop detected; ‘/run/media/root/fedora_fedora5/root’ is part 
of the same file system loop as ‘/’.
find: File system loop detected; ‘/run/media/root/fedora_fedora4/root’ is part 
of the same file system loop as ‘/’.
find: File system loop detected; ‘/run/media/root/fedora_fedora3/root’ is part 
of the same file system loop as ‘/’.
find: File system loop detected; ‘/run/media/root/fedora_fedora2/root’ is part 
of the same file system loop as ‘/’.
find: File system loop detected; ‘/run/media/root/fedora_fedora1/root’ is part 
of the same file system loop as ‘/’.
find: File system loop detected; ‘/run/media/root/fedora_fedora/root’ is part 
of the same file system loop as ‘/’.
/usr/lib64/python3.9/site-packages/wx/include/wxPython

The source file for grass-7.8.5 is at : /grass-7.8.5 NOT /root/grass-7.8.5.

Next I checked echo $PATH and received this message:

(base) [root@godelsrevenge ~]# echo $PATH
/usr/lib64/python3.9/site-packages/wx/include:/root/anaconda3/bin:/root/anaconda3/condabin:/usr/lib64/python3.9/site-packages/wx/include:/usr/lib64/ccache:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin
(base) [root@godelsrevenge ~]#


but here's my .bashrc file:

# .bashrc

# Source global definitions
if [ -f /etc/bashrc ]; then
. /etc/bashrc
fi

# User specific environment

# Uncomment the following line if you don't like systemctl's auto-paging 
feature:
# export SYSTEMD_PAGER=

# User specific aliases and functions

alias rm='rm -i'
alias cp='cp -i'
alias mv='mv -i'

# >>> Export for wxPython >>>
export PATH="/usr/lib64/python3.9/site-packages/wx/include:$PATH"

# >>> conda initialize >>>
# !! Contents within this block are managed by 'conda init' !!
__conda_setup="$('/root/anaconda3/bin/conda' 'shell.bash' 'hook' 2> 
/dev/null)"
if [ $? -eq 0 ]; then
eval "$__conda_setup"
else
if [ -f "/root/anaconda3/etc/profile.d/conda.sh" ]; then
. "/root/anaconda3/etc/profile.d/conda.sh"
else
export PATH="/root/anaconda3/bin:$PATH"
fi
fi
unset __conda_setup
# <<< conda initialize <<<


So what is the origin of that long line of PATH directories when they don't 
appear in the .bashrc file?  (I checked to make sure I was running bash).

And if /usr/local/bin contains grass78 and wxPython is located in 
/usr/lib64/python3.9/site-packages/wx/includes then why is grass78 missing the 
wxPython file?

And I also checked using find / -name grass-gui and came up with nothing, that 
is grass-gui is missing.

I hope I've included enough detail to help with this.


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On Sunday, December 27, 2020 8:00 PM, Rich Shepard  
wrote:

> On Sun, 27 Dec 2020, mdwxman wrote:
>
> > And that's a very good idea! I just went through the process of 
creating a(base) [root@godelsrevenge ~]# find / -name wxPython
find: File system loop detected; ‘/run/media/root/fedora_fedora5/root’ is part 
of the same file system loop as ‘/’.
find: File system loop detected; ‘/run/media/root/fedora_fedora4/root’ is part 
of the same file system loop as ‘/’.
find: File system loop detected; ‘/run/media/root/fedora_fedora3/root’ is part 
of the same file system loop as ‘/’.
find: File system loop detected; ‘/run/media/root/fedora_fedora2/root’ is part 
of the same file system loop as ‘/’.
find: File system loop detected; ‘/run/media/root/fedora_fedora1/root’ is part 
of the same file system loop as ‘/’.
find: File system loop detected; ‘/run/media/root/fedora_fedora/root’ is part 
of the same file system loop as ‘/’.
/usr/lib64/python3.9/site-packages/wx/include/wxPython
(
> > link to the GRASS78 file. Your idea is something I never considered. I
> > guess too many years of managing Unix and Linux systems with command 
lines
> > has stopped the creative juices from using the GUIs that were put 
there
> > for everyone's benefit!
>
> Mike,
>
> Your method of invoking grass should reflect how you want to work with it.

Re: [GRASS-user] Umm...OK, How do I start this thing?

2020-12-27 Thread mdwxman via grass-user
And that's a very good idea!  I just went through the process of creating a 
link to the GRASS78 file.  Your idea is something I never considered.  I guess 
too many years of managing Unix and Linux systems with command lines has 
stopped the creative juices from using the GUIs that were put there for 
everyone's benefit!

Mike


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On Sunday, December 27, 2020 7:40 AM, Rich Shepard  
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> On Sun, 27 Dec 2020, mdwxman via grass-user wrote:
>
> > I must be either blind or brain-frozen by all the snow outside but even
> > after reading through the introductions and downloading the North Carolina
> > data I still don't see how to start GRASS GIS 7.8.5 on my Fedora 33. I
> > have over 30 years experience with Unix or Linux and I still don't see a
> > startup file. What am I missing?
>
> Michael,
>
> You need to invoke the executable binary. On Slackware it's in
> /usr/local/bin/.
>
> If you're using a virtual desktop (Gnome, KDE, Xfce4, whatever) you can
> point an icon or menu item to that file and access it that way rather than
> from a virtual terminal.
>
> Stay well,
>
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Re: [GRASS-user] Umm...OK, How do I start this thing?

2020-12-26 Thread mdwxman via grass-user
After all these years you would think that I would have automatically run “make 
install” or that I would have read the directions. Nope, not this time. Thanks 
for laying out the path comment. I’ll try to avoid being so neglectful in the 
future...

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On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 1:38 AM, Markus Neteler  wrote:

> Hi Michael,
>
> mdwxman via grass-user  schrieb am So.,
> 27. Dez. 2020, 06:19:
>>
>> I must be either blind or brain-frozen by all the snow outside but even 
>> after reading through the introductions
>> and downloading the North Carolina data I still don't see how to start GRASS 
>> GIS 7.8.5 on my Fedora 33.
>
> The reason will be that the start script isn't yet in $PATH.
>
> So, the question is: did you run this step
>
> sudo make install
> ?
>
> - if yes, then it should be in /usr/local/bin/ which needs to be in
> $PATH (usually it is)
> - if no, then you need to create a link:
> ln -s /where/you/compiled/grass_src/bin.x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/grass78
> /some/directory/in/path/
>
> Example (here in detail, also for others being interested):
> So, in my $HOME I always create a "$HOME/bin/" directory into which I
> then link the GRASS GIS startup script (and also other unrelated
> stuff). Hence:
>
> mkdir $HOME/bin/
>
> Then add this line into $HOME/.bashrc (assuming that you use bash shell):
> export PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin
>
> Next create the link (adapt path as needed):
> ln -s $HOME/where/you/compiled/grass_src/bin.x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/grass78
> $HOME/bin/
>
> Now either start a new terminal or execute one time (needed as the
> current terminal only reads $HOME/.bashrc at startup):
> export PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin
>
> Now you should be able to start
>
> grass78
>
>> I have over 30 years experience with Unix or Linux and I still don't see a 
>> startup file. What am I missing?
>
> It is all about having the start scipt in $PATH.
>
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[GRASS-user] Umm...OK, How do I start this thing?

2020-12-26 Thread mdwxman via grass-user
I must be either blind or brain-frozen by all the snow outside but even after 
reading through the introductions and downloading the North Carolina data I 
still don't see how to start GRASS GIS 7.8.5 on my Fedora 33. I have over 30 
years experience with Unix or Linux and I still don't see a startup file. What 
am I missing?

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Re: [GRASS-user] configure file for Fedora 33 and grass-7.8.5

2020-12-23 Thread mdwxman via grass-user
It’s either perseverance or it’s a cumpulsive disorder of some type! This whole 
tale began last February when I realized a GIS would be perfect for displaying 
meteorological data. Software for numerical weather forecasting is rich in 
results but thin in display of topographic information. Reading through GRASS 
capabilities I realized it offered not just display but also analytical 
capacity. That was the inducement for continuing to find a solution for me.

On the other hand, Markus’ willingness to smooth out the bumps, to pursue the 
complex interactions between libraries, and to volunteer so much time to 
someone like me is awe-inspiring. Linux is a very difficult platform due to its 
non-standard repos. Every one of Linux’s flavors is different. Add that to the 
welter of poorly-maintained libraries and very small but essential bits of code 
requires patience. He makes GRASS-GIS a workable solution. This users’ group is 
the key resource to making GRASS a very useful tool.

My admiration and deep thanks.

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On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 6:08 PM, Dave Roberts  wrote:

> Michael, you define perseverance. Markus, you are extraordinarily
> gracious with your time and expertise. This is a happy outcome that
> demonstrates the depth of commitment of the GRASS community.
>
> Bravo, Dave R.
>
> On 12/23/20 4:39 PM, mdwxman via grass-user wrote:
>> GRASS GIS 7.8.5 exported compilation log
>> --
>> Started compilation: Wed Dec 23 04:40:02 PM CST 2020
>> --
>> Errors in:
>> No errors detected.
>> --
>> Finished compilation: Wed Dec 23 04:40:40 PM CST 2020
>>
>> SUCCESS!! There was another small hiccough (or is that now spelled
>> differently? The cairo library also needed the devel files and a very
>> small error during compilation as ~/raster3d/r3.in.asciialso needed to
>> be compiled. Still, GRASS 7.8.5 is alive.
>>
>> Thank you Markus for all your patience and help.
>>
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>>> Yeah, I noticed that. Libtiff-devel now installed.
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>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> You need to install the development package as well which includes
>>>> the header .h files:
>>>>
>>>> libtiff-devel
>>>>
>>>> Markus
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> mdwxman via grass-user >>> <mailto:grass-user@lists.osgeo.org>> schrieb am Mi., 23. Dez. 2020,
>>>> 20:39:
>>>>
>>>> And here's what I get from the dnf install libtiff:
>>>>
>>>> (base) [root@godelsrevenge ~]# dnf install libtiff
>>>> Fedora Modular 33 - x86_64 - Updates
>>>> 40
>>>> kB/s | 15 kB 00:00
>>>> Fedora 33 - x86_64 - Updates
>>>> 54
>>>> kB/s | 16 kB 00:00
>>>> Package libtiff-4.1.0-4.fc33.x86_64 is already installed.
>>>> Dependencies resolved.
>>>> Nothing to do.
>>>> Complete!
>>>>
>>>> Could it be that the Fedora 33 gremlins have inserted a
>>>> differently-named libtiff version or a different location?
>>>>
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Re: [GRASS-user] configure file for Fedora 33 and grass-7.8.5

2020-12-23 Thread mdwxman via grass-user
GRASS GIS 7.8.5 exported compilation log
--
Started compilation: Wed Dec 23 04:40:02 PM CST 2020
--
Errors in:
No errors detected.
--
Finished compilation: Wed Dec 23 04:40:40 PM CST 2020

SUCCESS!! There was another small hiccough (or is that now spelled differently? 
The cairo library also needed the devel files and a very small error during 
compilation as ~/raster3d/r3.in.asciialso needed to be compiled. Still, GRASS 
7.8.5 is alive.

Thank you Markus for all your patience and help.

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> Yeah, I noticed that. Libtiff-devel now installed.
>
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> On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 2:08 PM, Markus Neteler  
> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> You need to install the development package as well which includes the 
>> header .h files:
>>
>> libtiff-devel
>>
>> Markus
>>
>> mdwxman via grass-user  schrieb am Mi., 23. Dez. 
>> 2020, 20:39:
>>
>>> And here's what I get from the dnf install libtiff:
>>>
>>> (base) [root@godelsrevenge ~]# dnf install libtiff
>>> Fedora Modular 33 - x86_64 - Updates 40 kB/s | 15 kB 00:00
>>> Fedora 33 - x86_64 - Updates 54 kB/s | 16 kB 00:00
>>> Package libtiff-4.1.0-4.fc33.x86_64 is already installed.
>>> Dependencies resolved.
>>> Nothing to do.
>>> Complete!
>>>
>>> Could it be that the Fedora 33 gremlins have inserted a differently-named 
>>> libtiff version or a different location?
>>>
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>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Evidently "TIFF" corresponds to libtiff. I'll attempt to dnf install.
>>>>
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>>>> On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 1:32 PM, mdwxman via grass-user 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Markus:
>>>>>
>>>>> Who knows what the configure means by "TIFF missing?" But here's the 
>>>>> configure file and the result:
>>>>> (base) [root@godelsrevenge grass-7.8.5]# ./configure \
>>>>>> --with-cxx \
>>>>>> --with-gdal=/usr/bin/gdal-config \
>>>>>> --with-proj --with-proj-share=/usr/share/proj \
>>>>>> --with-geos \
>>>>>> --with-sqlite \
>>>>>> --with-nls \
>>>>>> --with-wxwidgets=/usr/bin/wx-config \
>>>>>> --with-fftw \
>>>>>> --with-cairo --with-cairo-ldflags=-ldfontconfig \
>>>>>> --with-freetype --with-freetype-includes=/usr/include/freetype2 \
>>>>>> --enable-largefile \
>>>>>> --without-odbc \
>>>>>> --with-blas --with-blas-includes=/usr/include/atlas-x86_64-base/ \
>>>>>> --with-lapack --with-lapack-includes=/usr/include/atlas-x86_64-base/ \
>>>>>> --with-zstd
>>>>> checking host system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
>>>>> checking for gcc... gcc
>>>>> checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) works... yes
>>>>> checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) is a cross-compiler... no
>>>>> checking whether we are using GNU C... yes
>>>>> checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
>>>>> checking for Cygwin environment... no
>>>>> checking for mingw32 environment... no
>>>>> checking for executable suffix... no
>>>>> checking for full floating-point support... yes
>>>>> checking for pwd... /usr/bin/pwd
>>>>> checking for source directory... /grass-7.8.5
>>>>> checking for build directory... /grass-7.8.5
>>>>> checking for git... /usr/bin/git
>>>>> fatal: not a git repository (or any of the parent directories): .git
>>>>> checking for MacOSX App... no
>>>>> 

Re: [GRASS-user] configure file for Fedora 33 and grass-7.8.5

2020-12-23 Thread mdwxman via grass-user
Yeah, I noticed that. Libtiff-devel now installed.

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On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 2:08 PM, Markus Neteler  
wrote:

> Hi
>
> You need to install the development package as well which includes the header 
> .h files:
>
> libtiff-devel
>
> Markus
>
> mdwxman via grass-user  schrieb am Mi., 23. Dez. 
> 2020, 20:39:
>
>> And here's what I get from the dnf install libtiff:
>>
>> (base) [root@godelsrevenge ~]# dnf install libtiff
>> Fedora Modular 33 - x86_64 - Updates 40 kB/s | 15 kB 00:00
>> Fedora 33 - x86_64 - Updates 54 kB/s | 16 kB 00:00
>> Package libtiff-4.1.0-4.fc33.x86_64 is already installed.
>> Dependencies resolved.
>> Nothing to do.
>> Complete!
>>
>> Could it be that the Fedora 33 gremlins have inserted a differently-named 
>> libtiff version or a different location?
>>
>> Michael Allen
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>> On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 1:35 PM, mdwxman  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Evidently "TIFF" corresponds to libtiff. I'll attempt to dnf install.
>>>
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>>> On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 1:32 PM, mdwxman via grass-user 
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Markus:
>>>>
>>>> Who knows what the configure means by "TIFF missing?" But here's the 
>>>> configure file and the result:
>>>> (base) [root@godelsrevenge grass-7.8.5]# ./configure \
>>>>> --with-cxx \
>>>>> --with-gdal=/usr/bin/gdal-config \
>>>>> --with-proj --with-proj-share=/usr/share/proj \
>>>>> --with-geos \
>>>>> --with-sqlite \
>>>>> --with-nls \
>>>>> --with-wxwidgets=/usr/bin/wx-config \
>>>>> --with-fftw \
>>>>> --with-cairo --with-cairo-ldflags=-ldfontconfig \
>>>>> --with-freetype --with-freetype-includes=/usr/include/freetype2 \
>>>>> --enable-largefile \
>>>>> --without-odbc \
>>>>> --with-blas --with-blas-includes=/usr/include/atlas-x86_64-base/ \
>>>>> --with-lapack --with-lapack-includes=/usr/include/atlas-x86_64-base/ \
>>>>> --with-zstd
>>>> checking host system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
>>>> checking for gcc... gcc
>>>> checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) works... yes
>>>> checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) is a cross-compiler... no
>>>> checking whether we are using GNU C... yes
>>>> checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
>>>> checking for Cygwin environment... no
>>>> checking for mingw32 environment... no
>>>> checking for executable suffix... no
>>>> checking for full floating-point support... yes
>>>> checking for pwd... /usr/bin/pwd
>>>> checking for source directory... /grass-7.8.5
>>>> checking for build directory... /grass-7.8.5
>>>> checking for git... /usr/bin/git
>>>> fatal: not a git repository (or any of the parent directories): .git
>>>> checking for MacOSX App... no
>>>> checking for MacOSX architectures... no
>>>> checking for MacOSX SDK... no
>>>> checking how to build libraries... shared
>>>> checking for additional include dirs...
>>>> checking for additional library dirs...
>>>> checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
>>>> checking for flex... flex
>>>> checking for yywrap in -lfl... no
>>>> checking for bison... bison -y
>>>> checking for ranlib... ranlib
>>>> checking for ar... ar
>>>> checking for env... env
>>>> checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl
>>>> checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
>>>> checking for ANSI C header files... yes
>>>> checking for limits.h... yes
>>>> checking for termio.h... yes
>>>> checking for termios.h... yes
>>>> checking for unistd.h... yes
>>>> checking for values.h... yes
>>>> checking for f2c.h... no
>>>> checking for g2c.h... no
>>>> checking for sys/ioctl.h... yes

Re: [GRASS-user] configure file for Fedora 33 and grass-7.8.5

2020-12-23 Thread mdwxman via grass-user
And here's what I get from the dnf install libtiff:

(base) [root@godelsrevenge ~]# dnf install libtiff
Fedora Modular 33 - x86_64 - Updates 40 kB/s | 15 kB 00:00
Fedora 33 - x86_64 - Updates 54 kB/s | 16 kB 00:00
Package libtiff-4.1.0-4.fc33.x86_64 is already installed.
Dependencies resolved.
Nothing to do.
Complete!

Could it be that the Fedora 33 gremlins have inserted a differently-named 
libtiff version or a different location?

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> Evidently "TIFF" corresponds to libtiff. I'll attempt to dnf install.
>
> Michael Allen
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> On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 1:32 PM, mdwxman via grass-user 
>  wrote:
>
>> Markus:
>>
>> Who knows what the configure means by "TIFF missing?" But here's the 
>> configure file and the result:
>> (base) [root@godelsrevenge grass-7.8.5]# ./configure \
>>> --with-cxx \
>>> --with-gdal=/usr/bin/gdal-config \
>>> --with-proj --with-proj-share=/usr/share/proj \
>>> --with-geos \
>>> --with-sqlite \
>>> --with-nls \
>>> --with-wxwidgets=/usr/bin/wx-config \
>>> --with-fftw \
>>> --with-cairo --with-cairo-ldflags=-ldfontconfig \
>>> --with-freetype --with-freetype-includes=/usr/include/freetype2 \
>>> --enable-largefile \
>>> --without-odbc \
>>> --with-blas --with-blas-includes=/usr/include/atlas-x86_64-base/ \
>>> --with-lapack --with-lapack-includes=/usr/include/atlas-x86_64-base/ \
>>> --with-zstd
>> checking host system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
>> checking for gcc... gcc
>> checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) works... yes
>> checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) is a cross-compiler... no
>> checking whether we are using GNU C... yes
>> checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
>> checking for Cygwin environment... no
>> checking for mingw32 environment... no
>> checking for executable suffix... no
>> checking for full floating-point support... yes
>> checking for pwd... /usr/bin/pwd
>> checking for source directory... /grass-7.8.5
>> checking for build directory... /grass-7.8.5
>> checking for git... /usr/bin/git
>> fatal: not a git repository (or any of the parent directories): .git
>> checking for MacOSX App... no
>> checking for MacOSX architectures... no
>> checking for MacOSX SDK... no
>> checking how to build libraries... shared
>> checking for additional include dirs...
>> checking for additional library dirs...
>> checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
>> checking for flex... flex
>> checking for yywrap in -lfl... no
>> checking for bison... bison -y
>> checking for ranlib... ranlib
>> checking for ar... ar
>> checking for env... env
>> checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl
>> checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
>> checking for ANSI C header files... yes
>> checking for limits.h... yes
>> checking for termio.h... yes
>> checking for termios.h... yes
>> checking for unistd.h... yes
>> checking for values.h... yes
>> checking for f2c.h... no
>> checking for g2c.h... no
>> checking for sys/ioctl.h... yes
>> checking for sys/mtio.h... yes
>> checking for sys/resource.h... yes
>> checking for sys/time.h... yes
>> checking for sys/timeb.h... yes
>> checking for sys/types.h... yes
>> checking for sys/utsname.h... yes
>> checking for libintl.h... yes
>> checking for iconv.h... yes
>> checking for langinfo.h... yes
>> checking whether time.h and sys/time.h may both be included... yes
>> checking for off_t... yes
>> checking for uid_t in sys/types.h... yes
>> checking return type of signal handlers... void
>> checking for Cygwin environment... no
>> checking for ftime... yes
>> checking for gethostname... yes
>> checking for gettimeofday... yes
>> checking for lseek... yes
>> checking for nice... yes
>> checking for time... yes
>> checking for uname... yes
>> checking for seteuid... yes
>> checking for setpriority... yes
>> checking for setreuid... yes
>> checking for setruid... no
>> checking for drand48... yes
>> checking for putenv... yes
>> checking for setenv... yes
>> checking for nanosleep... yes
>> checking whether setpgrp takes no argument... yes
>> checking for l

Re: [GRASS-user] configure file for Fedora 33 and grass-7.8.5

2020-12-23 Thread mdwxman via grass-user
Evidently "TIFF" corresponds to libtiff. I'll attempt to dnf install.

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On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 1:32 PM, mdwxman via grass-user 
 wrote:

> Markus:
>
> Who knows what the configure means by "TIFF missing?" But here's the 
> configure file and the result:
> (base) [root@godelsrevenge grass-7.8.5]# ./configure \
>> --with-cxx \
>> --with-gdal=/usr/bin/gdal-config \
>> --with-proj --with-proj-share=/usr/share/proj \
>> --with-geos \
>> --with-sqlite \
>> --with-nls \
>> --with-wxwidgets=/usr/bin/wx-config \
>> --with-fftw \
>> --with-cairo --with-cairo-ldflags=-ldfontconfig \
>> --with-freetype --with-freetype-includes=/usr/include/freetype2 \
>> --enable-largefile \
>> --without-odbc \
>> --with-blas --with-blas-includes=/usr/include/atlas-x86_64-base/ \
>> --with-lapack --with-lapack-includes=/usr/include/atlas-x86_64-base/ \
>> --with-zstd
> checking host system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
> checking for gcc... gcc
> checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) works... yes
> checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) is a cross-compiler... no
> checking whether we are using GNU C... yes
> checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
> checking for Cygwin environment... no
> checking for mingw32 environment... no
> checking for executable suffix... no
> checking for full floating-point support... yes
> checking for pwd... /usr/bin/pwd
> checking for source directory... /grass-7.8.5
> checking for build directory... /grass-7.8.5
> checking for git... /usr/bin/git
> fatal: not a git repository (or any of the parent directories): .git
> checking for MacOSX App... no
> checking for MacOSX architectures... no
> checking for MacOSX SDK... no
> checking how to build libraries... shared
> checking for additional include dirs...
> checking for additional library dirs...
> checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
> checking for flex... flex
> checking for yywrap in -lfl... no
> checking for bison... bison -y
> checking for ranlib... ranlib
> checking for ar... ar
> checking for env... env
> checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl
> checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
> checking for ANSI C header files... yes
> checking for limits.h... yes
> checking for termio.h... yes
> checking for termios.h... yes
> checking for unistd.h... yes
> checking for values.h... yes
> checking for f2c.h... no
> checking for g2c.h... no
> checking for sys/ioctl.h... yes
> checking for sys/mtio.h... yes
> checking for sys/resource.h... yes
> checking for sys/time.h... yes
> checking for sys/timeb.h... yes
> checking for sys/types.h... yes
> checking for sys/utsname.h... yes
> checking for libintl.h... yes
> checking for iconv.h... yes
> checking for langinfo.h... yes
> checking whether time.h and sys/time.h may both be included... yes
> checking for off_t... yes
> checking for uid_t in sys/types.h... yes
> checking return type of signal handlers... void
> checking for Cygwin environment... no
> checking for ftime... yes
> checking for gethostname... yes
> checking for gettimeofday... yes
> checking for lseek... yes
> checking for nice... yes
> checking for time... yes
> checking for uname... yes
> checking for seteuid... yes
> checking for setpriority... yes
> checking for setreuid... yes
> checking for setruid... no
> checking for drand48... yes
> checking for putenv... yes
> checking for setenv... yes
> checking for nanosleep... yes
> checking whether setpgrp takes no argument... yes
> checking for long long int... yes
> checking for int64_t... yes
> checking for W11... no
> checking for X... libraries , headers
> checking for dnet_ntoa in -ldnet... no
> checking for dnet_ntoa in -ldnet_stub... no
> checking for gethostbyname... yes
> checking for connect... yes
> checking for remove... yes
> checking for shmat... yes
> checking for IceConnectionNumber in -lICE... yes
> checking for library containing cuserid... none required
> checking for asprintf... yes
> checking for atan... no
> checking for atan in -lm... yes
> checking for dlsym... no
> checking for dlsym in -ldl... yes
> checking for iconv... yes
> checking for socket... yes
> checking for location of zlib includes...
> checking for zlib.h... yes
> checking for location of zlib library...
> checking for deflate in -lz... yes
> checking whether to use bzlib... no
> checking whether to use zstd... yes
> checking for location of zstd includes...
> checking for zstd.h... yes
> checking for location of zstd 

[GRASS-user] configure file for Fedora 33 and grass-7.8.5

2020-12-23 Thread mdwxman via grass-user
Markus:

Who knows what the configure means by "TIFF missing?" But here's the configure 
file and the result:
(base) [root@godelsrevenge grass-7.8.5]# ./configure \
> --with-cxx \
> --with-gdal=/usr/bin/gdal-config \
> --with-proj --with-proj-share=/usr/share/proj \
> --with-geos \
> --with-sqlite \
> --with-nls \
> --with-wxwidgets=/usr/bin/wx-config \
> --with-fftw \
> --with-cairo --with-cairo-ldflags=-ldfontconfig \
> --with-freetype --with-freetype-includes=/usr/include/freetype2 \
> --enable-largefile \
> --without-odbc \
> --with-blas --with-blas-includes=/usr/include/atlas-x86_64-base/ \
> --with-lapack --with-lapack-includes=/usr/include/atlas-x86_64-base/ \
> --with-zstd
checking host system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
checking for gcc... gcc
checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) works... yes
checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) is a cross-compiler... no
checking whether we are using GNU C... yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
checking for Cygwin environment... no
checking for mingw32 environment... no
checking for executable suffix... no
checking for full floating-point support... yes
checking for pwd... /usr/bin/pwd
checking for source directory... /grass-7.8.5
checking for build directory... /grass-7.8.5
checking for git... /usr/bin/git
fatal: not a git repository (or any of the parent directories): .git
checking for MacOSX App... no
checking for MacOSX architectures... no
checking for MacOSX SDK... no
checking how to build libraries... shared
checking for additional include dirs...
checking for additional library dirs...
checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking for flex... flex
checking for yywrap in -lfl... no
checking for bison... bison -y
checking for ranlib... ranlib
checking for ar... ar
checking for env... env
checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl
checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
checking for ANSI C header files... yes
checking for limits.h... yes
checking for termio.h... yes
checking for termios.h... yes
checking for unistd.h... yes
checking for values.h... yes
checking for f2c.h... no
checking for g2c.h... no
checking for sys/ioctl.h... yes
checking for sys/mtio.h... yes
checking for sys/resource.h... yes
checking for sys/time.h... yes
checking for sys/timeb.h... yes
checking for sys/types.h... yes
checking for sys/utsname.h... yes
checking for libintl.h... yes
checking for iconv.h... yes
checking for langinfo.h... yes
checking whether time.h and sys/time.h may both be included... yes
checking for off_t... yes
checking for uid_t in sys/types.h... yes
checking return type of signal handlers... void
checking for Cygwin environment... no
checking for ftime... yes
checking for gethostname... yes
checking for gettimeofday... yes
checking for lseek... yes
checking for nice... yes
checking for time... yes
checking for uname... yes
checking for seteuid... yes
checking for setpriority... yes
checking for setreuid... yes
checking for setruid... no
checking for drand48... yes
checking for putenv... yes
checking for setenv... yes
checking for nanosleep... yes
checking whether setpgrp takes no argument... yes
checking for long long int... yes
checking for int64_t... yes
checking for W11... no
checking for X... libraries , headers
checking for dnet_ntoa in -ldnet... no
checking for dnet_ntoa in -ldnet_stub... no
checking for gethostbyname... yes
checking for connect... yes
checking for remove... yes
checking for shmat... yes
checking for IceConnectionNumber in -lICE... yes
checking for library containing cuserid... none required
checking for asprintf... yes
checking for atan... no
checking for atan in -lm... yes
checking for dlsym... no
checking for dlsym in -ldl... yes
checking for iconv... yes
checking for socket... yes
checking for location of zlib includes...
checking for zlib.h... yes
checking for location of zlib library...
checking for deflate in -lz... yes
checking whether to use bzlib... no
checking whether to use zstd... yes
checking for location of zstd includes...
checking for zstd.h... yes
checking for location of zstd library...
checking for ZSTD_compress in -lzstd... yes
checking for location of External PROJ includes...
checking for proj.h... yes
checking External PROJ major version... 6
checking External PROJ minor version... 3
checking External PROJ patch version... 2
found PROJ version 6.3.2
using new PROJ version 5+ API
checking for location of External PROJ library...
checking for proj_pj_info in -lproj... yes
checking for location of External PROJ data files... /usr/share/proj
checking whether to use regex... yes
checking for location of regex includes...
checking for regex.h... yes
checking for location of regex library...
checking for regcomp... yes
checking whether to use Readline... no
checking whether to use GDAL... yes
checking for gdal-config... /usr/bin/gdal-config
checking whether to use libLAS... no
checking whether to use PDAL... no
checking whether to use NetCDF... no
checking whether to use GEOS... yes
checking 

[GRASS-user] grass-7.8.5 on Fedora 33

2020-12-22 Thread mdwxman via grass-user
So, far, I must be cursed... I successfully loaded and configured Fedora 33 
with the KDE desktop (much better than GNOME 3; used it long ago).

Downloaded grass-7.8.5 from the tarball, etc. Read and followed directions on 
https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Compile_and_Install#GRASS_GIS_7_on_Fedora

Nearly everything downloaded and installed from the dnf install file except for 
the proj-epsg item. Nevertheless, I went ahead with the ./configure script then 
was shot down by the "couldn't find the TIFF" item. Evidently dnf install can't 
find it and Fedora 33 doesn't have it on my machine. (I used the "Everything" 
option, although I chose only some of the items). I attempted to use dnf to 
find TIFF but it failed.

If TIFF is related to the protocol for displaying *.tiff images then I'm 
confused. Or if there are some other instructions for grass-7.8.5 on Fedora I 
haven't found them yet.

Any suggestions?

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Re: [GRASS-user] More Fun Compiling & Installing GRASS on CentOS 8

2020-12-19 Thread mdwxman via grass-user
Simply by looking at Fedora’s Web site I can see many more choices than I ever 
saw with CentOS. Any recommendations regarding which of Fedora’s installations 
might be best?

Michael Allen
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On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 11:08 AM, mdwxman via grass-user 
 wrote:

> The Fedora choice is undoubtedly a better choice in my case since it’s more 
> familiar. It has usually been much more up-to-date too.
>
> Thanks for the advice.
>
> Michael Allen
> Industrial Weather
> 763-777-1263
>
> On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 11:00 AM, Markus Neteler  wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 5:50 PM mdwxman  wrote:
>>>
>>> OK. It would be much easier to move to Fedora since CentOS is similar to 
>>> Fedora. I used Fedora years ago and changed to CentOS at about CentOS 5. 
>>> Too much time wasted to continue with CentOS.
>>
>> You'll find the geo stuff up to date in Fedora, and you will be
>> familiar with the package management system.
>>
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Re: [GRASS-user] More Fun Compiling & Installing GRASS on CentOS 8

2020-12-19 Thread mdwxman via grass-user
The Fedora choice is undoubtedly a better choice in my case since it’s more 
familiar. It has usually been much more up-to-date too.

Thanks for the advice.

Michael Allen
Industrial Weather
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On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 11:00 AM, Markus Neteler  wrote:

> On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 5:50 PM mdwxman  wrote:
>>
>> OK. It would be much easier to move to Fedora since CentOS is similar to 
>> Fedora. I used Fedora years ago and changed to CentOS at about CentOS 5. Too 
>> much time wasted to continue with CentOS.
>
> You'll find the geo stuff up to date in Fedora, and you will be
> familiar with the package management system.
>
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Re: [GRASS-user] More Fun Compiling & Installing GRASS on CentOS 8

2020-12-19 Thread mdwxman via grass-user
I’ve even found the DHCP/static issue to be impossible. I have 5 static lines 
here but as of last week (and actually several months ago) I’ve been unable to 
configure static addresses on the CentOS 8 machine. CentOS 8 requires 
NetworkManager and that reverts to DHCP no matter which NIC configuration I 
use. Dry sloppy work on their part.

Michael Allen
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On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 10:59 AM, Micha Silver  wrote:

> On 12/19/20 6:38 PM, mdwxman via grass-user wrote:
>
>> I’m starting to agree with you regarding Centos 8. This experience matches 
>> other experiences with it. Although I like it’s interface there seems to be 
>> serious, nefarious hidden issues when I start to compile code. I understand 
>> why it ‘s been abandoned, although I have no research to add to my 
>> suppositions.
>>
>> If old habits die hard those old habits can still have disastrous 
>> consequences. Today is the day to adopt Ubuntu & stop wasting my time & 
>> yours. I wonder how many others on this user group use CentOS 7 or 8? Not 
>> many I’d guess.
>
> Like you I also used CentOS for years, but left several years back for the 
> Debian family. I've been quite happy since.
>
> CentOS is still a good choice, I think, if you need a server for just a few 
> standard, unchanging services (DHCP, web server, mail server etc). But for 
> desktop work, with rapidly changing software, you quickly find yourself 
> chasing after packages that aren't available from the standard repos.
>
>> Michael Allen
>> Industrial Weather
>> 763-777-1263
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 5:53 AM, Markus Neteler  wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 3:27 AM mdwxman via grass-user
>>> [](mailto:grass-user@lists.osgeo.org) wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This has become a very strange issue. This afternoon I attempted 8 
>>>> variations on the compilation and all failed.
>>>
>>> There should ideally be just one way to install it.
>>>
>>>> The first thing I did was to check on the GDAL version and although it 
>>>> wasn't easy, it turns out that the conda installation from several weeks 
>>>> ago used GDAL 2.4... The GRASS version was the 7.7 version. So, I changed 
>>>> the subdirectory to the 3.0.4 GDAL version: /usr/include/gdal-config and 
>>>> the /usr/share/gdal subdirectories. But those failed too although I used 
>>>> the grass-7.8.5RC1 file.
>>>
>>> We need to see the error messages to help.
>>>
>>> In the first place I feel that you have a mixture of version on your
>>> machine. Personally, I would try without conda on Centos8.
>>>
>>>> I also checked my logs and made sure I used the dnf install text for all 
>>>> the required software. I also tried the "--with-gdal 
>>>> --with-gdal-includes=/usr/include/gdal" configuration. All my attempts 
>>>> bombed.
>>>>
>>>> It was interesting that dnf install noted that GDAL and GDAL-devel were 
>>>> the most recent and already on my file system. There are two additional 
>>>> tasks to do now. The first is to discover whether the GDAL and GDAL-devel 
>>>> version 3.0.4 version is the one to use for the compilation. Is it the 
>>>> most up-to-date?
>>>
>>> Here you can look up the version:
>>> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/gdal/
>>> --> d'oh! where did it go? Someone must have removed it from there ... :(
>>>
>>> ==> Build status
>>> --> https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=1826
>>> --> gdal-3.0.4-5.el8 (which I packaged in May)
>>>
>>> I have just triggered to rebuild it on the server:
>>>
>>> fedpkg build
>>> Building gdal-3.0.4-6.el8 for epel8-candidate
>>> Created task: 57788230
>>> Task info: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=57788230
>>> Building gdal-3.0.4-6.el8 for epel8-playground-candidate
>>> Created task: 57788232
>>> Task info: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=57788232
>>>
>>> ==> it fails.
>>>
>>>> The other task is attempt to dig into other log files to determine if 
>>>> there is additional information.
>>>>
>>>> After that I plan to remove all GRASS versions and related libraries if I 
>>>> can find them. I know I have two GRASS versions: 7.7 and 7.8.5 so perhaps 
>>>> there's a conflict hidden in the configuration.
>>>
>>> Is there any

Re: [GRASS-user] More Fun Compiling & Installing GRASS on CentOS 8

2020-12-19 Thread mdwxman via grass-user
OK. It would be much easier to move to Fedora since CentOS is similar to 
Fedora. I used Fedora years ago and changed to CentOS at about CentOS 5. Too 
much time wasted to continue with CentOS.

Michael Allen
Industrial Weather
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On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 5:53 AM, Markus Neteler  wrote:

> On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 3:27 AM mdwxman via grass-user
>  wrote:
>>
>> This has become a very strange issue. This afternoon I attempted 8 
>> variations on the compilation and all failed.
>
> There should ideally be just one way to install it.
>
>> The first thing I did was to check on the GDAL version and although it 
>> wasn't easy, it turns out that the conda installation from several weeks ago 
>> used GDAL 2.4... The GRASS version was the 7.7 version. So, I changed the 
>> subdirectory to the 3.0.4 GDAL version: /usr/include/gdal-config and the 
>> /usr/share/gdal subdirectories. But those failed too although I used the 
>> grass-7.8.5RC1 file.
>
> We need to see the error messages to help.
>
> In the first place I feel that you have a mixture of version on your
> machine. Personally, I would try without conda on Centos8.
>
>> I also checked my logs and made sure I used the dnf install text for all the 
>> required software. I also tried the "--with-gdal 
>> --with-gdal-includes=/usr/include/gdal" configuration. All my attempts 
>> bombed.
>>
>> It was interesting that dnf install noted that GDAL and GDAL-devel were the 
>> most recent and already on my file system. There are two additional tasks to 
>> do now. The first is to discover whether the GDAL and GDAL-devel version 
>> 3.0.4 version is the one to use for the compilation. Is it the most 
>> up-to-date?
>
> Here you can look up the version:
> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/gdal/
> --> d'oh! where did it go? Someone must have removed it from there ... :(
>
> ==> Build status
> --> https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=1826
> --> gdal-3.0.4-5.el8 (which I packaged in May)
>
> I have just triggered to rebuild it on the server:
>
> fedpkg build
> Building gdal-3.0.4-6.el8 for epel8-candidate
> Created task: 57788230
> Task info: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=57788230
> Building gdal-3.0.4-6.el8 for epel8-playground-candidate
> Created task: 57788232
> Task info: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=57788232
>
> ==> it fails.
>
>> The other task is attempt to dig into other log files to determine if there 
>> is additional information.
>>
>> After that I plan to remove all GRASS versions and related libraries if I 
>> can find them. I know I have two GRASS versions: 7.7 and 7.8.5 so perhaps 
>> there's a conflict hidden in the configuration.
>
> Is there any reason to keep the outdated GRASS 7.7?
>
>> My other question revolves around gdal-config. There are two versions of 
>> gdal-config: one simply called "gdal-config" and the other called 
>> "gdal-config64" This machine (and all my networked machines) are x86_64 
>> architecture. Is the configure script attempting to use one or the other and 
>> defaulting to the "Error: cannot find gdal-config" option. This type of 
>> thing has happened to me before and error messages can be notoriously 
>> difficult to understand.
>
> I fully agree. There is no (obvious) point for me to have a separate
> "gdal-config64" script.
> Please check from which RPM it originates, with
>
> rpm -qf /usr/bin/gdal-config64
> ?
>
> But honestly, I am getting lost with Centos. That's why we abandoned
> it earlier this year (which was an attempt after 10 years of
> Scientific Linux on our HPC infrastructure).
>
> However, I have good experience with Fedora and Ubuntu.
>
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Re: [GRASS-user] More Fun Compiling & Installing GRASS on CentOS 8

2020-12-19 Thread mdwxman via grass-user
BTW, there is no reason to keep the outdated vs. 7.7. Since I’m going to wipe 
the 8 Tb from that machine and move to Ubuntu on all the others, that will 
disappear as well.

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On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 5:53 AM, Markus Neteler  wrote:

> On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 3:27 AM mdwxman via grass-user
>  wrote:
>>
>> This has become a very strange issue. This afternoon I attempted 8 
>> variations on the compilation and all failed.
>
> There should ideally be just one way to install it.
>
>> The first thing I did was to check on the GDAL version and although it 
>> wasn't easy, it turns out that the conda installation from several weeks ago 
>> used GDAL 2.4... The GRASS version was the 7.7 version. So, I changed the 
>> subdirectory to the 3.0.4 GDAL version: /usr/include/gdal-config and the 
>> /usr/share/gdal subdirectories. But those failed too although I used the 
>> grass-7.8.5RC1 file.
>
> We need to see the error messages to help.
>
> In the first place I feel that you have a mixture of version on your
> machine. Personally, I would try without conda on Centos8.
>
>> I also checked my logs and made sure I used the dnf install text for all the 
>> required software. I also tried the "--with-gdal 
>> --with-gdal-includes=/usr/include/gdal" configuration. All my attempts 
>> bombed.
>>
>> It was interesting that dnf install noted that GDAL and GDAL-devel were the 
>> most recent and already on my file system. There are two additional tasks to 
>> do now. The first is to discover whether the GDAL and GDAL-devel version 
>> 3.0.4 version is the one to use for the compilation. Is it the most 
>> up-to-date?
>
> Here you can look up the version:
> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/gdal/
> --> d'oh! where did it go? Someone must have removed it from there ... :(
>
> ==> Build status
> --> https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=1826
> --> gdal-3.0.4-5.el8 (which I packaged in May)
>
> I have just triggered to rebuild it on the server:
>
> fedpkg build
> Building gdal-3.0.4-6.el8 for epel8-candidate
> Created task: 57788230
> Task info: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=57788230
> Building gdal-3.0.4-6.el8 for epel8-playground-candidate
> Created task: 57788232
> Task info: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=57788232
>
> ==> it fails.
>
>> The other task is attempt to dig into other log files to determine if there 
>> is additional information.
>>
>> After that I plan to remove all GRASS versions and related libraries if I 
>> can find them. I know I have two GRASS versions: 7.7 and 7.8.5 so perhaps 
>> there's a conflict hidden in the configuration.
>
> Is there any reason to keep the outdated GRASS 7.7?
>
>> My other question revolves around gdal-config. There are two versions of 
>> gdal-config: one simply called "gdal-config" and the other called 
>> "gdal-config64" This machine (and all my networked machines) are x86_64 
>> architecture. Is the configure script attempting to use one or the other and 
>> defaulting to the "Error: cannot find gdal-config" option. This type of 
>> thing has happened to me before and error messages can be notoriously 
>> difficult to understand.
>
> I fully agree. There is no (obvious) point for me to have a separate
> "gdal-config64" script.
> Please check from which RPM it originates, with
>
> rpm -qf /usr/bin/gdal-config64
> ?
>
> But honestly, I am getting lost with Centos. That's why we abandoned
> it earlier this year (which was an attempt after 10 years of
> Scientific Linux on our HPC infrastructure).
>
> However, I have good experience with Fedora and Ubuntu.
>
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Re: [GRASS-user] More Fun Compiling & Installing GRASS on CentOS 8

2020-12-19 Thread mdwxman via grass-user
I’m starting to agree with you regarding Centos 8. This experience matches 
other experiences with it. Although I like it’s interface there seems to be 
serious, nefarious hidden issues when I start to compile code. I understand why 
it ‘s been abandoned, although I have no research to add to my suppositions.

If old habits die hard those old habits can still have disastrous consequences. 
Today is the day to adopt Ubuntu & stop wasting my time & yours. I wonder how 
many others on this user group use CentOS 7 or 8? Not many I’d guess.

Michael Allen
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On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 5:53 AM, Markus Neteler  wrote:

> On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 3:27 AM mdwxman via grass-user
>  wrote:
>>
>> This has become a very strange issue. This afternoon I attempted 8 
>> variations on the compilation and all failed.
>
> There should ideally be just one way to install it.
>
>> The first thing I did was to check on the GDAL version and although it 
>> wasn't easy, it turns out that the conda installation from several weeks ago 
>> used GDAL 2.4... The GRASS version was the 7.7 version. So, I changed the 
>> subdirectory to the 3.0.4 GDAL version: /usr/include/gdal-config and the 
>> /usr/share/gdal subdirectories. But those failed too although I used the 
>> grass-7.8.5RC1 file.
>
> We need to see the error messages to help.
>
> In the first place I feel that you have a mixture of version on your
> machine. Personally, I would try without conda on Centos8.
>
>> I also checked my logs and made sure I used the dnf install text for all the 
>> required software. I also tried the "--with-gdal 
>> --with-gdal-includes=/usr/include/gdal" configuration. All my attempts 
>> bombed.
>>
>> It was interesting that dnf install noted that GDAL and GDAL-devel were the 
>> most recent and already on my file system. There are two additional tasks to 
>> do now. The first is to discover whether the GDAL and GDAL-devel version 
>> 3.0.4 version is the one to use for the compilation. Is it the most 
>> up-to-date?
>
> Here you can look up the version:
> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/gdal/
> --> d'oh! where did it go? Someone must have removed it from there ... :(
>
> ==> Build status
> --> https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=1826
> --> gdal-3.0.4-5.el8 (which I packaged in May)
>
> I have just triggered to rebuild it on the server:
>
> fedpkg build
> Building gdal-3.0.4-6.el8 for epel8-candidate
> Created task: 57788230
> Task info: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=57788230
> Building gdal-3.0.4-6.el8 for epel8-playground-candidate
> Created task: 57788232
> Task info: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=57788232
>
> ==> it fails.
>
>> The other task is attempt to dig into other log files to determine if there 
>> is additional information.
>>
>> After that I plan to remove all GRASS versions and related libraries if I 
>> can find them. I know I have two GRASS versions: 7.7 and 7.8.5 so perhaps 
>> there's a conflict hidden in the configuration.
>
> Is there any reason to keep the outdated GRASS 7.7?
>
>> My other question revolves around gdal-config. There are two versions of 
>> gdal-config: one simply called "gdal-config" and the other called 
>> "gdal-config64" This machine (and all my networked machines) are x86_64 
>> architecture. Is the configure script attempting to use one or the other and 
>> defaulting to the "Error: cannot find gdal-config" option. This type of 
>> thing has happened to me before and error messages can be notoriously 
>> difficult to understand.
>
> I fully agree. There is no (obvious) point for me to have a separate
> "gdal-config64" script.
> Please check from which RPM it originates, with
>
> rpm -qf /usr/bin/gdal-config64
> ?
>
> But honestly, I am getting lost with Centos. That's why we abandoned
> it earlier this year (which was an attempt after 10 years of
> Scientific Linux on our HPC infrastructure).
>
> However, I have good experience with Fedora and Ubuntu.
>
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Re: [GRASS-user] More Fun Compiling & Installing GRASS on CentOS 8

2020-12-18 Thread mdwxman via grass-user
This has become a very strange issue. This afternoon I attempted 8 variations 
on the compilation and all failed. The first thing I did was to check on the 
GDAL version and although it wasn't easy, it turns out that the conda 
installation from several weeks ago used GDAL 2.4... The GRASS version was the 
7.7 version. So, I changed the subdirectory to the 3.0.4 GDAL version: 
/usr/include/gdal-config and the /usr/share/gdal subdirectories. But those 
failed too although I used the grass-7.8.5RC1 file. I also checked my logs and 
made sure I used the dnf install text for all the required software. I also 
tried the "--with-gdal --with-gdal-includes=/usr/include/gdal" configuration. 
All my attempts bombed.

It was interesting that dnf install noted that GDAL and GDAL-devel were the 
most recent and already on my file system. There are two additional tasks to do 
now. The first is to discover whether the GDAL and GDAL-devel version 3.0.4 
version is the one to use for the compilation. Is it the most up-to-date? The 
other task is attempt to dig into other log files to determine if there is 
additional information.

After that I plan to remove all GRASS versions and related libraries if I can 
find them. I know I have two GRASS versions: 7.7 and 7.8.5 so perhaps there's a 
conflict hidden in the configuration. My other question revolves around 
gdal-config. There are two versions of gdal-config: one simply called 
"gdal-config" and the other called "gdal-config64" This machine (and all my 
networked machines) are x86_64 architecture. Is the configure script attempting 
to use one or the other and defaulting to the "Error: cannot find gdal-config" 
option. This type of thing has happened to me before and error messages can be 
notoriously difficult to understand.

Any other suggestions would be gladly entertained or even grasped or even 
prayed for!!

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 wrote:

> Looks like more fun here at dog fur manor. I'm still stuck on the compilation 
> of grass-7.8.5RC1 on CentOS 8.
>
> The script stops at line 6788 in the configure script with the ERROR message: 
> Cannot find grass-config.
>
> I've moved grass-config to many different subdirectories but always with the 
> same result. I used the methods on 
> https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Compile_and_Install#CentOS under the CentOS 
> 8 and the GRASS 7 instructions. The installation of all dependencies went 
> fine but apparently there is an issue with grass-config.
>
> And just think, I'm not even finished with the ./configure process. Am I 
> missing something?
>
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Re: [GRASS-user] More Fun Compiling & Installing GRASS on CentOS 8

2020-12-18 Thread mdwxman via grass-user
Thank you Markus.  I suspected something like this.  The version(s) of GDAL now 
on my computer are of the 2.4... variety.  After reading through your bugzilla 
messages from 2018 ff. I suspected there was more to the story.

Thank you.


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On Friday, December 18, 2020 2:47 AM, Markus Neteler  wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 5:19 AM mdwxman via grass-user
> grass-user@lists.osgeo.org wrote:
>
> > Looks like more fun here at dog fur manor. I'm still stuck on the 
> > compilation of grass-7.8.5RC1 on CentOS 8.
> > The script stops at line 6788 in the configure script with the ERROR 
> > message: Cannot find grass-config.
>
> This is unexpected. Do you mean
> gdal-config
> ?
>
> If yes, you need to install the "gdal-devel" RPM.
> In general, also other development packages like "proj-devel" are
> needed. The list is in the Wiki page cited below.
>
> > I've moved grass-config to many different subdirectories but always with 
> > the same result.
> > I used the methods on 
> > https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Compile_and_Install#CentOS
> > under the CentOS 8 and the GRASS 7 instructions. The installation of all 
> > dependencies went fine but apparently there is an issue with grass-config.
>
> Please use to "gdal-config" as per Wiki page.
>
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[GRASS-user] More Fun Compiling & Installing GRASS on CentOS 8

2020-12-17 Thread mdwxman via grass-user
Looks like more fun here at dog fur manor. I'm still stuck on the compilation 
of grass-7.8.5RC1 on CentOS 8.

The script stops at line 6788 in the configure script with the ERROR message: 
Cannot find grass-config.

I've moved grass-config to many different subdirectories but always with the 
same result. I used the methods on 
https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Compile_and_Install#CentOS under the CentOS 8 
and the GRASS 7 instructions. The installation of all dependencies went fine 
but apparently there is an issue with grass-config.

And just think, I'm not even finished with the ./configure process. Am I 
missing something?

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Re: [GRASS-user] Installation Issues on CentOS8

2020-12-16 Thread mdwxman via grass-user
I noticed the issues with both the GDAL and PROJ packages. I’ve noticed that it 
can be difficult and sometimes impossible to find necessary packages on several 
Fedora repos. It makes things difficult and frustrating to install packages 
when even Conda can’t find necessary libraries.

Michael Allen
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On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 8:27 AM, Markus Neteler  wrote:

> Michael,
>
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 4:36 AM mdwxman via grass-user
>  wrote:
>>
>> I don't often compile software on CentOS but even this one has me confused. 
>> I'm attempting to install some version of GRASS 7.8 on a CentOS 8 box and 
>> I've been attempting to do so, on off for the last 6 months.
>
> I did the same and it was a bumpy ride. Reason: a lot of packages were
> missing. I even had to become package maintainer in Fedora to push
> PROJ and GDAL packages...
>
>> There have been several different errors and I've attempted to use conda, 
>> conda with a local environment using Python 3.6., yum, and DNF. There are 
>> two types of errors: one is the failure to find the gui (g.gui).
>
> The GUI issue was there till the end of November. Reason: wxpython4
> package missing, see here:
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1765573
>
> It has finally been provided.
>
>> The other involves a complete stop.
>>
>> This time I've used the grass-7.8.0.tar.gz files from the GRASS geo site.
>
> Please use at least 7.8.4, soon 7.8.5 for relevant bugfixes:
>
> https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/Release/7.8.5-News
>
>> The lastest attempt results in a stop in the ./configure line at:
>>
>> include/Make/Vars.make:1: included/Make/Platform.make: No such file or 
>> directory
>>
>> Since it stopped I attempted to use:
>>
>> make: *** No rule to make target 'include/Make/'. Stop.
>>
>> I've installed all required libraries and other applications (I think).
>
> Please see here:
>
> https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Compile_and_Install#CentOS
> --> Centos8
>
>> I am a newbie with compilers but does anyone have some help for this.
>>
>> The machine is a Centos 8 machine with 7 Tb disk storage and running a 
>> 16-core Ryzen CPU at 4125 MHz.
>
> THat should be perfectly fine.
>
>> Thanks. I hope someone can help.
>
> Hope the Wiki instructions help - if not, let us know.
>
> Markus
>
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Re: [GRASS-user] Installation Issues on CentOS8

2020-12-16 Thread mdwxman via grass-user
Thank you Markus. I’m glad I stuck with GRASS long enough to find a solution. 
I’m very fortunate to discover this user group, too. As I looked through the 
archive for the last two years I found lots of interesting and helpful messages.

One additional and brief question: in attempting to debug the script I’m 
curious regarding any software suggestions you might have for that task. Of 
course, experience & knowledge play a crucial role but any debugging software 
might be helpful. Any suggestions?

Thanks again. Your answers uniformly provide the reasons for the errors. Many 
thanks.

Michael Allen
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On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 8:27 AM, Markus Neteler  wrote:

> Michael,
>
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 4:36 AM mdwxman via grass-user
>  wrote:
>>
>> I don't often compile software on CentOS but even this one has me confused. 
>> I'm attempting to install some version of GRASS 7.8 on a CentOS 8 box and 
>> I've been attempting to do so, on off for the last 6 months.
>
> I did the same and it was a bumpy ride. Reason: a lot of packages were
> missing. I even had to become package maintainer in Fedora to push
> PROJ and GDAL packages...
>
>> There have been several different errors and I've attempted to use conda, 
>> conda with a local environment using Python 3.6., yum, and DNF. There are 
>> two types of errors: one is the failure to find the gui (g.gui).
>
> The GUI issue was there till the end of November. Reason: wxpython4
> package missing, see here:
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1765573
>
> It has finally been provided.
>
>> The other involves a complete stop.
>>
>> This time I've used the grass-7.8.0.tar.gz files from the GRASS geo site.
>
> Please use at least 7.8.4, soon 7.8.5 for relevant bugfixes:
>
> https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/Release/7.8.5-News
>
>> The lastest attempt results in a stop in the ./configure line at:
>>
>> include/Make/Vars.make:1: included/Make/Platform.make: No such file or 
>> directory
>>
>> Since it stopped I attempted to use:
>>
>> make: *** No rule to make target 'include/Make/'. Stop.
>>
>> I've installed all required libraries and other applications (I think).
>
> Please see here:
>
> https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Compile_and_Install#CentOS
> --> Centos8
>
>> I am a newbie with compilers but does anyone have some help for this.
>>
>> The machine is a Centos 8 machine with 7 Tb disk storage and running a 
>> 16-core Ryzen CPU at 4125 MHz.
>
> THat should be perfectly fine.
>
>> Thanks. I hope someone can help.
>
> Hope the Wiki instructions help - if not, let us know.
>
> Markus
>
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[GRASS-user] Installation Issues on CentOS8

2020-12-15 Thread mdwxman via grass-user
I don't often compile software on CentOS but even this one has me confused. I'm 
attempting to install some version of GRASS 7.8 on a CentOS 8 box and I've been 
attempting to do so, on off for the last 6 months.

There have been several different errors and I've attempted to use conda, conda 
with a local environment using Python 3.6., yum, and DNF. There are two types 
of errors: one is the failure to find the gui (g.gui). The other involves a 
complete stop.

This time I've used the grass-7.8.0.tar.gz files from the GRASS geo site. The 
lastest attempt results in a stop in the ./configure line at:

include/Make/Vars.make:1: included/Make/Platform.make: No such file or directory

Since it stopped I attempted to use:

make: *** No rule to make target 'include/Make/'. Stop.

I've installed all required libraries and other applications (I think).

I am a newbie with compilers but does anyone have some help for this.

The machine is a Centos 8 machine with 7 Tb disk storage and running a 16-core 
Ryzen CPU at 4125 MHz.

Thanks. I hope someone can help.

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