Re: [GRASS-user] Call an external function from GRASS-Pythons Scripts

2010-05-17 Thread Nikos Alexandris
Martin Landa:
...
   PS: Probably it would be reasonable to change configuration of ML
   (send replay to the list instead to 'from') to avoid this mistake.
 
Markus Neteler:
  I would strongly advise against that (see '90s archive for some damages
  and OSGeo list archive too and others):
  
  http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html
  http://woozle.org/~neale/papers/reply-to-still-harmful.html
  
  It is too risky. I have been asked several times in the past to remove
  posting from a list archive which is not only a PITA but also a can
  or worms (think censorship; which message to delete, which not etc.).

Nikos Alexandris
  I just read about this past debate. So, it is always better to use the
  Reply to Mailing-List button (KMail here)?

Markus Neteler:
 I don't know such button... (no KMail knowledge).

Nikos Alexandris:
  Pohhh... I am really sorry if I caused any problem since I've always been
  using the Reply-to-All for the list and the Reply-to for personal
  messages.

Markus Neteler wrote:
 But Reply-to-All for the list and the Reply-to for personal messages
 is perfect! Just go on. Nothing changed. I suggested to not change anything
 :)

Nothing important, just for the records.

Reading (again) this thread: I extracted from the respective debate (I mean 
the links posted by MarkusN [1][2]) that the Reply to Mailing-List button 
(at least in KMail) adds some special header or something like that which is 
the correct way to _reply_ in the list.

In addition, in the past I had asked Markus to remove some posts of mine (due 
to a silly mistake) which was a really time-consuming and difficult process 
(judging by Markus replies back then -- but I am so grateful he helped me out 
-- thanks again Markus).

So, I felt for a moment bad thinking that I could have brought even more 
problems in the list. Nevermind, it is good to know that there are no problems 
using the Reply-to-All button.

Nikos

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[1] http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html
[2] http://woozle.org/~neale/papers/reply-to-still-harmful.html
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Re: [GRASS-user] Call an external function from GRASS-Pythons Scripts

2010-05-06 Thread Markus Neteler
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 5:30 AM, Nikos Alexandris
nikos.alexand...@felis.uni-freiburg.de wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Martin Landa landa.mar...@gmail.com wrote:
 ...
  PS: Probably it would be reasonable to change configuration of ML
  (send replay to the list instead to 'from') to avoid this mistake.

 On Thursday 22 of April 2010 15:36:37 Markus Neteler wrote:
 Hi Martin,

 I would strongly advise against that (see '90s archive for some damages
 and OSGeo list archive too and others):

 http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html
 http://woozle.org/~neale/papers/reply-to-still-harmful.html

 It is too risky. I have been asked several times in the past to remove
 posting from a list archive which is not only a PITA but also a can
 or worms (think censorship; which message to delete, which not etc.).

 My strong 0.02 cents :)
 Markus

 Markus,

 I just read about this past debate. So, it is always better to use the Reply
 to Mailing-List button (KMail here)?

I don't know such button... (no KMail knowledge).

 Pohhh... I am really sorry if I caused any problem since I've always been
 using the Reply-to-All for the list and the Reply-to for personal
 messages.

But Reply-to-All for the list and the Reply-to for personal messages
is perfect! Just go on. Nothing changed. I suggested to not change anything :)

Markus
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Re: [GRASS-user] Call an external function from GRASS-Pythons Scripts

2010-05-05 Thread Martin Landa
Hi,

2010/5/5 Nikos Alexandris nikos.alexand...@felis.uni-freiburg.de:

[...]

 I just read about this past debate. So, it is always better to use the Reply
 to Mailing-List button (KMail here)?

 Pohhh... I am really sorry if I caused any problem since I've always been
 using the Reply-to-All for the list and the Reply-to for personal
 messages.

AFAIU, Reply-to-All is OK.

Martin

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Re: [GRASS-user] Call an external function from GRASS-Pythons Scripts

2010-05-04 Thread Nikos Alexandris
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Martin Landa landa.mar...@gmail.com wrote: 
...
  PS: Probably it would be reasonable to change configuration of ML
  (send replay to the list instead to 'from') to avoid this mistake.

On Thursday 22 of April 2010 15:36:37 Markus Neteler wrote: 
 Hi Martin,

 I would strongly advise against that (see '90s archive for some damages
 and OSGeo list archive too and others):
 
 http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html
 http://woozle.org/~neale/papers/reply-to-still-harmful.html
 
 It is too risky. I have been asked several times in the past to remove
 posting from a list archive which is not only a PITA but also a can
 or worms (think censorship; which message to delete, which not etc.).
 
 My strong 0.02 cents :)
 Markus

Markus,

I just read about this past debate. So, it is always better to use the Reply 
to Mailing-List button (KMail here)?

Pohhh... I am really sorry if I caused any problem since I've always been 
using the Reply-to-All for the list and the Reply-to for personal 
messages.

Nikos
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[GRASS-user] Call an external function from GRASS-Pythons Scripts

2010-04-22 Thread Kim Besson
Hi

I'm developing a small GRASS Python script but I will need to call an
external executive. I already know where to put it (at $PATH) but i don't
know how to call it from Python GRASS Script. How can I do this? (as an
example it's helloWorld :) )

Thanks
Best regards
Kim
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Re: [GRASS-user] Call an external function from GRASS-Pythons Scripts

2010-04-22 Thread Martin Landa
Hi,

2010/4/22 Kim Besson kimbesson1...@gmail.com:
 I'm developing a small GRASS Python script but I will need to call an
 external executive. I already know where to put it (at $PATH) but i don't
 know how to call it from Python GRASS Script. How can I do this? (as an
 example it's helloWorld :) )

grass.call()

e.g.

grass.call(['whoami', '--version'])

Martin

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Re: [GRASS-user] Call an external function from GRASS-Pythons Scripts

2010-04-22 Thread Martin Landa
Hi,

2010/4/22 Kim Besson kimbesson1...@gmail.com:
 From http://download.osgeo.org/grass/grass6_progman/core_8py_source.html I
 see that besides the main argument there is **kwargs. What is this?

all defined arguments from Popen

http://download.osgeo.org/grass/grass6_progman/classpython_1_1core_1_1Popen.html

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[GRASS-user] Call an external function from GRASS-Pythons Scripts

2010-04-22 Thread Martin Landa
Hi,

{please keep discussion on ML}

2010/4/22 Kim Besson kimbesson1...@gmail.com:
 Bur for instance you separated two argument inside [ ]. This means that for
 instance If I need to call a external function and inser input and output I
 would have to do this:
 grass.call(['whoami', 'input_file', 'output_file']) or
 grass.call(['whoami input output_file'])

it's first argument 'args'.

Martin

PS: Probably it would be reasonable to change configuration of ML
(send replay to the list instead to 'from') to avoid this mistake.

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Re: [GRASS-user] Call an external function from GRASS-Pythons Scripts

2010-04-22 Thread Kim Besson
Here now at the ML for everyone :)
But which one of the two options is correct? The first one or the second
one? Or both are ok? (at least the second one is correct I suppose)

2010/4/22 Martin Landa landa.mar...@gmail.com

 Hi,

 {please keep discussion on ML}

 2010/4/22 Kim Besson kimbesson1...@gmail.com:
  Bur for instance you separated two argument inside [ ]. This means that
 for
  instance If I need to call a external function and inser input and output
 I
  would have to do this:
  grass.call(['whoami', 'input_file', 'output_file']) or
  grass.call(['whoami input output_file'])

 it's first argument 'args'.

 Martin

 PS: Probably it would be reasonable to change configuration of ML
 (send replay to the list instead to 'from') to avoid this mistake.

 --
 Martin Landa landa.martin gmail.com * http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~landa

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Re: [GRASS-user] Call an external function from GRASS-Pythons Scripts

2010-04-22 Thread Martin Landa
Hi,

2010/4/22 Kim Besson kimbesson1...@gmail.com:
  would have to do this:
  grass.call(['whoami', 'input_file', 'output_file']) or
  grass.call(['whoami input output_file'])

if the syntax is 'cmd input output' then

grass.call(['cmd', 'input', 'output'])

see

http://docs.python.org/library/subprocess.html#subprocess.Popen

Martin

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Re: [GRASS-user] Call an external function from GRASS-Pythons Scripts

2010-04-22 Thread Martin Landa
Hi,

2010/4/22 Martin Landa landa.mar...@gmail.com:
  would have to do this:
  grass.call(['whoami', 'input_file', 'output_file']) or
  grass.call(['whoami input output_file'])

 if the syntax is 'cmd input output' then

 grass.call(['cmd', 'input', 'output'])

 see

 http://docs.python.org/library/subprocess.html#subprocess.Popen

or check existing GRASS scripts, e.g.

http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/browser/grass/trunk/scripts/v.in.e00/v.in.e00.py#L135

Martin

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Re: [GRASS-user] Call an external function from GRASS-Pythons Scripts

2010-04-22 Thread Markus Neteler
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Martin Landa landa.mar...@gmail.com wrote:
...
 PS: Probably it would be reasonable to change configuration of ML
 (send replay to the list instead to 'from') to avoid this mistake.

Hi Martin,

I would strongly advise against that (see '90s archive for some damages
and OSGeo list archive too and others):

http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html
http://woozle.org/~neale/papers/reply-to-still-harmful.html

It is too risky. I have been asked several times in the past to remove
posting from a list archive which is not only a PITA but also a can
or worms (think censorship; which message to delete, which not etc.).

My strong 0.02 cents :)
Markus
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