[graylog2] Re: Disk Journal / Kafka Input / Throttling

2016-12-06 Thread cazy
Hi Jochen,

I think what Eli is driving at is that throttling starts too late. I think 
there should be a (configurable) threshold that starts throttling when the 
internal journal exceeds a certail level.

Cheers,
Carlos

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[graylog2] Re: Disk Journal / Kafka Input / Throttling

2016-07-25 Thread Jochen Schalanda
Hi Eli,

Graylog should already throttle message consumption from an external Kafka 
broker if processing cannot keep up and the disk journal and the processing 
buffer are running full.

Cheers,
Jochen

On Wednesday, 20 July 2016 04:10:36 UTC+2, Eli Jordan wrote:
>
> Thanks for the clarification Jochen.
>
> Do you know if its possible to throttle the kafka input, so that messages 
> are buffered in kafka rather than in GrayLogs internal journal? Enabling 
> throttling on the input didn't seem to slow down the rate at which messages 
> are consumed. (note: we are running 2.0.3)
>
> On Tuesday, 19 July 2016 22:04:59 UTC+10, Jochen Schalanda wrote:
>>
>> Hi Eli,
>>
>> On Tuesday, 19 July 2016 13:18:49 UTC+2, Eli Jordan wrote:
>>>
>>> My understanding is that the disk journal is just an internal Kafka 
>>> topic. Since we are already using Kafka to buffer messages, this seems 
>>> redundant. (Also, since we are running graylog in docker the journal is 
>>> transient without configuring appropriate docker volumes).
>>>
>>
>> That's not quite correct. Graylog is using the journal implementation 
>> from Apache Kafka internally but it's not a full-fledged Kafka broker, e. 
>> g. the whole Kafka networking stack is missing (it's there for the Kafka 
>> client in the Kafka inputs, of course).
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jochen
>>
>

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[graylog2] Re: Disk Journal / Kafka Input / Throttling

2016-07-19 Thread Eli Jordan
Thanks for the clarification Jochen.

Do you know if its possible to throttle the kafka input, so that messages 
are buffered in kafka rather than in GrayLogs internal journal? Enabling 
throttling on the input didn't seem to slow down the rate at which messages 
are consumed. (note: we are running 2.0.3)

On Tuesday, 19 July 2016 22:04:59 UTC+10, Jochen Schalanda wrote:
>
> Hi Eli,
>
> On Tuesday, 19 July 2016 13:18:49 UTC+2, Eli Jordan wrote:
>>
>> My understanding is that the disk journal is just an internal Kafka 
>> topic. Since we are already using Kafka to buffer messages, this seems 
>> redundant. (Also, since we are running graylog in docker the journal is 
>> transient without configuring appropriate docker volumes).
>>
>
> That's not quite correct. Graylog is using the journal implementation from 
> Apache Kafka internally but it's not a full-fledged Kafka broker, e. g. the 
> whole Kafka networking stack is missing (it's there for the Kafka client in 
> the Kafka inputs, of course).
>
> Cheers,
> Jochen
>

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[graylog2] Re: Disk Journal / Kafka Input / Throttling

2016-07-19 Thread Jochen Schalanda
Hi Eli,

On Tuesday, 19 July 2016 13:18:49 UTC+2, Eli Jordan wrote:
>
> My understanding is that the disk journal is just an internal Kafka topic. 
> Since we are already using Kafka to buffer messages, this seems redundant. 
> (Also, since we are running graylog in docker the journal is transient 
> without configuring appropriate docker volumes).
>

That's not quite correct. Graylog is using the journal implementation from 
Apache Kafka internally but it's not a full-fledged Kafka broker, e. g. the 
whole Kafka networking stack is missing (it's there for the Kafka client in 
the Kafka inputs, of course).

Cheers,
Jochen

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