[Gretl-devel] embedded console as default

2023-09-20 Thread Sven Schreiber

Hi again,

I've been using the "embedded console" feature setting for quite a while 
now, and like it a lot. When installing gretl on a new system together 
with a colleague, I was reminded that the console is not embedded by 
default. So the first impression when starting up gretl (at least on 
Windows) is that you get a very white and very empty window, which did 
not impress the colleague very much, to be honest.


So what about switching the default to have the console embedded?

One further thought to make the initial window "less empty" in an easy 
way: why not have an initial greeting message in the GUI console, 
similar to what gretl does on a "real" console in the CLI. Something like:


"
Welcome to gretl 2023b
User guide and further documentation under the Help menu
See Help > About gretl for copyright and license information
Load a dataset under File > Open Data
"

cheers

sven

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[Gretl-devel] GUI: sorting possibility, visual indication

2023-09-20 Thread Sven Schreiber

Hi,

I'd like to ask why in the GUI main window the sorting "arrows" in the 
columns are only shown after the user has already sorted stuff. I 
understand that the arrow gives an indication of the current sorting 
criterion (which column, and up or down); as shown in the attached 
screenshot arrow.png, after I have clicked on the Description column 
("Beschreibung" in German).


However, when I start up gretl and open a datafile, no such sorting 
indication is shown initially, see screenshot noarrows.png. I would 
argue that because of that for unexperienced users it's not so clear 
that sorting in the GUI list is possible. And there _is_ a default 
sorting order applied, namely by ID#. -- Actually, it turns out that the 
arrow is only shown in the ID column if the sorting is reversed, not by 
default. I guess it's not a bug but intended, but I'd like to suggest to 
always show such an arrow.


thanks

sven
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