Re: [Grml] Is nss-ldap missing from grml 2010.04 ?
Thomas Köhler wrote: > Jason White wrote: > > Thomas Köhler wrote: > > > While generally true, I chose grml as my desktop system of > > > choice. I just remaster to add a few extra packages. It has all > > > it needs, quickly accepts patches ;) and just works. > > > > It wouldn't be difficult to install it and then just add whatever is desired > > from the Debian repositories. > > Sure, but loosing the possibility to easily roll back after a > broken update by just switching to the last known good version > would be sad. I have yet to see a more elegant solution to that > problem. LVM or Btrfs snapshots are one possibility, which will become more common as Btrfs stabilizes. There was an article about this on LWN some time ago. My usual solution to this is to include testing in /etc/apt/sources.list (even if I am upgrading to Unstable). If a package upgrade fails, I can just run sudo aptitude install package/testing and get the version which is in testing, and that generally fixes the problem. The maintainer then corrects the package, uploads a new version, and the issue goes away. That covers the great majority of cases in my experience (having run Debian Sid since 1999 or so, on various machines.) If the system becomes unbootable (which is rare), there's always Grml to the rescue. ___ Grml mailing list - Grml@mur.at http://lists.mur.at/mailman/listinfo/grml join #grml on irc.freenode.org grml-devel-blog: http://grml.supersized.org/
Re: [Grml] Is nss-ldap missing from grml 2010.04 ?
Hi, Jason White wrote: > Thomas Köhler wrote: > > While generally true, I chose grml as my desktop system of > > choice. I just remaster to add a few extra packages. It has all > > it needs, quickly accepts patches ;) and just works. > > It wouldn't be difficult to install it and then just add whatever is desired > from the Debian repositories. Sure, but loosing the possibility to easily roll back after a broken update by just switching to the last known good version would be sad. I have yet to see a more elegant solution to that problem. Ciao, Thomas -- Thomas Köhler Email: jean-...@picard.franken.de <>< WWW: http://gott-gehabt.de IRC: tkoehler PGP public key available from Homepage! signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Grml mailing list - Grml@mur.at http://lists.mur.at/mailman/listinfo/grml join #grml on irc.freenode.org grml-devel-blog: http://grml.supersized.org/
Re: [Grml] Is nss-ldap missing from grml 2010.04 ?
Thomas Köhler wrote: > While generally true, I chose grml as my desktop system of > choice. I just remaster to add a few extra packages. It has all > it needs, quickly accepts patches ;) and just works. It wouldn't be difficult to install it and then just add whatever is desired from the Debian repositories. On my own machines, I don't draw a desktop/server distinction. My primary workstation is physically a desktop system, but it's running Postfix, FreeSWITCH, Bind (as hidden master for my domain), sshd, etc., in addition to running the ADSL modem card. My laptop has most of the same software installed, too. These are both Debian systems, but they could just as easily have been built from GRML. Thanks for the work on GRML 2010.12. I downloaded it today, and plan to use it as a rescue environment in the event of problems. I needed GRML several months ago after I accidentally removed the ppp package from the aforementioned desktop machine, which shut down the ADSL connection and hence my link to the Internet. The solution was to boot GRML under kvm, then copy pppd and pppoatm.so from the guest to the host, then run it on the host to bring the ADSL line back up, and finally re-install the ppp package properly. Mounting the GRML ISO image directly didn't help, since the Debian kernel couldn't mount the LZMA-compressed squashfs file system. I think that's fixed as of 2.6.36 or 2.6.37 in the mainline kernel. ___ Grml mailing list - Grml@mur.at http://lists.mur.at/mailman/listinfo/grml join #grml on irc.freenode.org grml-devel-blog: http://grml.supersized.org/
Re: [Grml] Is nss-ldap missing from grml 2010.04 ?
Hi, Ulrich Dangel wrote: > * jonty wrote [02.01.11 16:01]: [...] > Are you sure grml is the right distribution? It is not meant to be used > as a normal desktop system. If you want to run normal Linux Desktops > just use a normal Distribution like Debian, Ubuntu, RHEL or Opensuse. While generally true, I chose grml as my desktop system of choice. I just remaster to add a few extra packages. It has all it needs, quickly accepts patches ;) and just works. Especially if the Desktop has the tendency to live on a USB disk and walk to the hardware where I need it. :-) Ciao, Thomas -- Thomas Köhler Email: jean-...@picard.franken.de <>< WWW: http://gott-gehabt.de IRC: tkoehler PGP public key available from Homepage! signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Grml mailing list - Grml@mur.at http://lists.mur.at/mailman/listinfo/grml join #grml on irc.freenode.org grml-devel-blog: http://grml.supersized.org/