[gmx-users] cutoff-scheme in CPU GPU

2014-05-24 Thread Yorquant Wang
Hi, all

Recelly I am testing the speed of GMX4.6 on our new supercomputer.
There are two parameters cutoff-scheme  and nstlist .
   for GPUs I uesd:
   cutoff-scheme=Verlet
   nstlist  = 20
   I found the speed is fast.

  I have tested if I use cutoff-scheme=Verlet combined with
nstlist=20 for CPUs, the speed was pretty fast. Could I use the same
parameter for CPUs?
-
Yukun Wang
PhD candidate
Institute of Natural Sciences  College of Life Science, Shanghai Jiao
Tong University
Cell phone: 13621806236.
China Shanghai
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[gmx-users] cutoff-sch​eme in CPU GPU

2014-05-24 Thread Yorquant Wang
Hi, all

Recelly I am testing the speed of GMX4.6 on our new supercomputer.
There are two parameters cutoff-scheme  and nstlist .
   for GPUs I uesd:
   cutoff-scheme=Verlet
   nstlist  = 20
   I found the speed is fast.

  I have tested if I use cutoff-scheme=Verlet combined with
nstlist=20 for CPUs, the speed was pretty fast. Could I use the same
parameter for CPUs?

-- 
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PhD candidate
Institute of Natural Sciences  College of Life Science, Shanghai Jiao
Tong University
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[gmx-users] constraint error

2014-05-24 Thread Lovika Moudgil
Hi everyone...

Can any body help me ...As i have an .itp file in which I have defined
constraint and then I am defining this .itp file in my .top fileAnd
with grompp command I got this error . I think I have defined constraints
on right place. Than why this error ??Where I need to move constraints
??Please help me to understand this ...

Fatal error:
[ file gold_bulk.itp, line 16 ]:
Atom index (2) in constraints out of bounds (1-1).
This probably means that you have inserted topology section constraints
in a part belonging to a different molecule than you intended to.
In that case move the constraints section to the right molecule.

Thanks and Regards
Lovika
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[gmx-users] binding sites with MD

2014-05-24 Thread Nidhi Katyal
Hi all,

I would like to ask if unbiased MD in nanoseconds time scale be used to
find the potential binding sites of ligand with protein?

I have simulated for 50ns, 1:14 and 1:24 protein:ligand simultaneously with
random placement of ligand initially. In the time interval between 40 to
50ns, movement of ligand molecules can be seen around certain sites only
for both the runs. Can these sites be considered as binding sites? Also,
ligand molecules are involved in both hydrophobic and hydrogen bonding
interactions with these sites.

Thanks in advance.
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Re: [gmx-users] binding sites with MD

2014-05-24 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 5/24/14, 6:24 AM, Nidhi Katyal wrote:

Hi all,

I would like to ask if unbiased MD in nanoseconds time scale be used to
find the potential binding sites of ligand with protein?

I have simulated for 50ns, 1:14 and 1:24 protein:ligand simultaneously with
random placement of ligand initially. In the time interval between 40 to
50ns, movement of ligand molecules can be seen around certain sites only
for both the runs. Can these sites be considered as binding sites? Also,
ligand molecules are involved in both hydrophobic and hydrogen bonding
interactions with these sites.



It's possible, but at such large ligand:protein ratios, you'll probably get a 
lot of nonspecific binding, and the interactions could be getting stuck in local 
minima, so you need some way of scoring the outcome based on energy.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] constraint error

2014-05-24 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 5/24/14, 4:46 AM, Lovika Moudgil wrote:

Hi everyone...

Can any body help me ...As i have an .itp file in which I have defined
constraint and then I am defining this .itp file in my .top fileAnd
with grompp command I got this error . I think I have defined constraints
on right place. Than why this error ??Where I need to move constraints
??Please help me to understand this ...

Fatal error:
[ file gold_bulk.itp, line 16 ]:
Atom index (2) in constraints out of bounds (1-1).
This probably means that you have inserted topology section constraints
in a part belonging to a different molecule than you intended to.
In that case move the constraints section to the right molecule.



It seems that you have only 1 atom defined in the [moleculetype], but then you 
are defining a constraint involving atom 2, which does not exist.  The error is 
similar to a common mistake involving positions restraints:


http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors#Atom_index_n_in_position_restraints_out_of_bounds

If you need more specific advice, please provide us with the content of the 
problematic topology.


-Justin

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University of Maryland, Baltimore
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Re: [gmx-users] constraint error

2014-05-24 Thread Lovika Moudgil
Thanks for reply Justin . Yes ...I get your point .


Regards
Lovika


On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 4:57 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 5/24/14, 4:46 AM, Lovika Moudgil wrote:

 Hi everyone...

 Can any body help me ...As i have an .itp file in which I have defined
 constraint and then I am defining this .itp file in my .top fileAnd
 with grompp command I got this error . I think I have defined constraints
 on right place. Than why this error ??Where I need to move constraints
 ??Please help me to understand this ...

 Fatal error:
 [ file gold_bulk.itp, line 16 ]:
 Atom index (2) in constraints out of bounds (1-1).
 This probably means that you have inserted topology section constraints
 in a part belonging to a different molecule than you intended to.
 In that case move the constraints section to the right molecule.


 It seems that you have only 1 atom defined in the [moleculetype], but then
 you are defining a constraint involving atom 2, which does not exist.  The
 error is similar to a common mistake involving positions restraints:

 http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors#Atom_index_n_in_position_
 restraints_out_of_bounds

 If you need more specific advice, please provide us with the content of
 the problematic topology.

 -Justin

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 Ruth L. Kirschstein NRSA Postdoctoral Fellow

 Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences
 School of Pharmacy
 Health Sciences Facility II, Room 601
 University of Maryland, Baltimore
 20 Penn St.
 Baltimore, MD 21201

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 http://mackerell.umaryland.edu/~jalemkul

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[gmx-users] cutoff-sch​eme in CPU GPU

2014-05-24 Thread Yorquant Wang
Hi, all

Recelly I am testing the speed of GMX4.6 on our new supercomputer.
There are two parameters cutoff-scheme  and nstlist .
   for GPUs I uesd:
   cutoff-scheme=Verlet
   nstlist  = 20
   I found the speed is fast.

  I have tested if I use cutoff-scheme=Verlet combined with
nstlist=20 for CPUs, the speed was pretty fast. Could I use the same
parameter for CPUs?

-- 
Yukun Wang
PhD candidate
Institute of Natural Sciences  College of Life Science, Shanghai Jiao
Tong University
Cell phone: 13621806236.
China Shanghai
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Re: [gmx-users] large free energy difference of mutating ATP to GTP in solution using FEP method in Gromacs-4.6.5

2014-05-24 Thread Michael Shirts
There are many ways for free energy calculations to go wrong. Look at
http://www.alchemistry.org for some discussions.

One thing I noticed (I didn't have a chance to look at everything) -
you only talk about one simulation. When doing classical simulations,
then you can't just mutate atoms, because classical simulations
neglect quantum mechanical terms. You can only look at differences in
alchemical simulations.  For example, you can look at the differences
between solvation free energies by performing the mutation in both
water and vacuum.  You have to think VERY carefully about the
thermodynamic end states that you are using.

On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 1:18 AM, dbaogen dbao...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear all,

I want to calculate the free energy difference of mutating ATP to 
 GTP in solution using FEP method. Firstly, the hybrid topology and structure 
 files for A (ATP) and B (GTP) state using dummy atoms were constructed. 
 Secondly,  the system is running for 10 ns to reach an equilibrium state.  
 And then the structure at 10 ns is as the starting structure to carry out FEP 
 calculation. In the course of FEP, the coulomb interaction was firstly 
 changed, and then the VDW interactions. Total 32 lambda points are set in the 
 mdp file shown in the following:
 integrator   = sd
 nsteps   = 10
 dt  = 0.002
 nstenergy= 1000
 nstlog   = 5000
 nstcalcenergy= 100
 nstcomm  = 1
 cutoff-scheme= group
 rlist= 1.2
 dispcorr = EnerPres
 vdw-type = switch
 ;cut-off lengths
 rvdw = 1.1
 rvdw-switch  = 1
 ; Coulomb interactions
 coulombtype  = pme
 rcoulomb = 1.2
 fourierspacing   = 0.12
 ; Constraints
 constraints  = all-bonds
 ; set temperature to 310K
 tcoupl   = v-rescale
 tc-grps  = system
 tau-t= 1.0
 ref-t= 310
 ; pressure control
 pcoupl  = Parrinello-Rahman
 ref-p= 1
 compressibility= 4.5e-5
 tau-p= 0.5

 ; and set the free energy parameters
 free-energy  = yes
 sc-power = 1
 sc-sigma = 0.3
 sc-alpha = 0.5
 sc-coul  = no
 sc-r-power   = 6
 ; we still want the molecule to interact with itself at lambda=0
 couple-intramol  = no
 couple-lambda0   = vdw-q
 couple-lambda1   = vdw-q
 ; $LAMBDA$ changed from 0 to 32
 init-lambda-state= $LAMBDA$
 nstdhdl  = 100
 calc-lambda-neighbors= 1
 fep-lambdas =  0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.01 0.03 0.05 0.1 
 0.15 0.2 0.25 0.3 0.35 0.4 0.45 0.5 0.55 0.6 0.65 0.7 0.75 0.8 0.85 0.9 0.95 
 1.0
 ;change electrostatic and then LJ interaction
 coul-lambdas = 0.0 0.1 0.2 0.3 0.4 0.5 0.6 0.7 0.8 0.9 1.0 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.0 
 1.00 1.0 1.00 1.0 1.00 1.0 1.00 1.0 1.00 1.0 1.00 1.0 1.00 1.0 1.00 1.0 1.00 
 1.0
 vdw-lambdas  = 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.01 0.03 0.05 0.1 
 0.15 0.2 0.25 0.3 0.35 0.4 0.45 0.5 0.55 0.6 0.65 0.7 0.75 0.8 0.85 0.9 0.95 
 1.0

 atom part of hybrid topology file is :
 [ atoms ]
 ;   nr   type  resnr residue  atom   cgnr charge   mass  typeB
 chargeB
  1 O3  1RAGO1G  1   -0.95260  16.00
  2  P  1RAG PG  21.26500  31.00
  3 O3  1RAGO2G  3   -0.95260  16.00
  4 O3  1RAGO3G  4   -0.95260  16.00
  5 OS  1RAGO3B  5   -0.53220  16.00
  6  P  1RAG PB  61.38520  31.00
  7 O2  1RAGO1B  7   -0.88940  16.00
  8 O2  1RAGO2B  8   -0.88940  16.00
  9 OS  1RAGO3A  9   -0.56890  16.00
 10  P  1RAG PA 101.25320  31.00
 11 O2  1RAGO1A 11   -0.87990  16.00
 12 O2  1RAGO2A 12   -0.87990  16.00
 13 OS  1RAGO5* 13   -0.59870  16.00
 14 CT  1RAGC5* 140.05580  12.00
 15 H1  1RAGH50 150.06790   1.008000
 16 H1  1RAGH51 160.06790   1.008000
 17 CT  1RAGC4* 170.10650  12.00
 18 H1  1RAGH40 180.11740   1.008000
 19 OS  1RAGO4* 19   -0.35480  16.00
 20 CT  1RAGC1* 200.03940  12.00   CT 
 0.01910  12.00
 21 H2  1RAGH10 210.20070   1.008000   H2 
 0.20060   1.008000
 22 N*  1RAG N9 22   -0.02510  

Re: [gmx-users] binding sites with MD

2014-05-24 Thread Michael Shirts
Look for papers by D. E. Shaw and Gianni di Fabritiis.  They have done
this, but it generally takes at least microseconds or milliseconds to
converge.

On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 6:24 AM, Nidhi Katyal nidhikatyal1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 I would like to ask if unbiased MD in nanoseconds time scale be used to
 find the potential binding sites of ligand with protein?

 I have simulated for 50ns, 1:14 and 1:24 protein:ligand simultaneously with
 random placement of ligand initially. In the time interval between 40 to
 50ns, movement of ligand molecules can be seen around certain sites only
 for both the runs. Can these sites be considered as binding sites? Also,
 ligand molecules are involved in both hydrophobic and hydrogen bonding
 interactions with these sites.

 Thanks in advance.
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Re: [gmx-users] binding sites with MD

2014-05-24 Thread Tom Dodson
Nidhi,

You might be interested in this tool: http://prody.csb.pitt.edu/drugui/
Here are slide from a talk about the method:
http://mmbios.org/images/workshops/HandsOn2014/Lecture3.pdf
And here is a tutorial:
http://prody.csb.pitt.edu/tutorials/drugui_tutorial/drugui_tutorial.pdf

I am sure that you could use GROMACS to do the simulated annealing step
instead of NAMD.

Tom
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Re: [gmx-users] binding sites with MD

2014-05-24 Thread Albert

this plug-in looks interesting.

However, as far as I saw from the tutorial that even we run simulation 
from Gromacs, this plugin can only import NAMD psf and DCD to analysis. 
That's  a headache issue. Can you improve this vmd plugin so that it can 
also read Gromacs format files directly?


best
Albert


On 05/24/2014 07:02 PM, Tom Dodson wrote:

Nidhi,

You might be interested in this tool:http://prody.csb.pitt.edu/drugui/
Here are slide from a talk about the method:
http://mmbios.org/images/workshops/HandsOn2014/Lecture3.pdf
And here is a tutorial:
http://prody.csb.pitt.edu/tutorials/drugui_tutorial/drugui_tutorial.pdf

I am sure that you could use GROMACS to do the simulated annealing step
instead of NAMD.

Tom


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Re: [gmx-users] cutoff-sch​eme in CPU GPU

2014-05-24 Thread Que Pasa
Yes. You can. The entire program was built and was functional on CPUs well
before GPUs came into the picture. Due to the way calculations are
off-loaded to GPUs not all features available on CPUs are available in the
GPU implementation. cutoff-scheme = Verlet is one such example. For more
details please read http://www.gromacs.org/GPU_acceleration and the
relevant papers.

hth


On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 3:52 AM, Yorquant Wang wangy...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, all

 Recelly I am testing the speed of GMX4.6 on our new supercomputer.
 There are two parameters cutoff-scheme  and nstlist .
for GPUs I uesd:
cutoff-scheme=Verlet
nstlist  = 20
I found the speed is fast.

   I have tested if I use cutoff-scheme=Verlet combined with
 nstlist=20 for CPUs, the speed was pretty fast. Could I use the same
 parameter for CPUs?

 --
 Yukun Wang
 PhD candidate
 Institute of Natural Sciences  College of Life Science, Shanghai Jiao
 Tong University
 Cell phone: 13621806236.
 China Shanghai
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Re: [gmx-users] genion

2014-05-24 Thread Que Pasa
If you want a simulation w/o Zinc as a control then build a new system/pdb
w/o it (just delete the Zn line)  rather than doing something exotic like
turning off its charge. Turning off charges (and van der Waals parameters)
is an approach more suitable for alchemical calculations
http://www.alchemistry.org/wiki/Main_Page . Avoid jumping into these unless
you know exactly what you are doing.


On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 12:21 PM, elham tazikeh elham.tazi...@gmail.comwrote:

 dear users
 i studied on amyloid beta peptide with zinc cation and
 i choosed 1ze9 as my pdb file
 can i assume Zn without charge in  protein simulation alone,
 or i have to using the amyloid beta peptide alone as pdb
 for instance,1iyt???
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Re: [gmx-users] cutoff-sch​eme in CPU GPU

2014-05-24 Thread Szilárd Páll
Yes. However, a larger nstlist can be often faster with GPUs (and at
high parallelization). mdrun will by default try to increase nstlist,
but only if the value set in the mdp is quite low, IIRC 20. Hence, if
you set nstlis=20 in the mdp, you won't get the automatic switching to
25 or 40 - settings which will often be faster.
--
Szilárd


On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Yorquant Wang wangy...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi, all

 Recelly I am testing the speed of GMX4.6 on our new supercomputer.
 There are two parameters cutoff-scheme  and nstlist .
for GPUs I uesd:
cutoff-scheme=Verlet
nstlist  = 20
I found the speed is fast.

   I have tested if I use cutoff-scheme=Verlet combined with
 nstlist=20 for CPUs, the speed was pretty fast. Could I use the same
 parameter for CPUs?

 --
 Yukun Wang
 PhD candidate
 Institute of Natural Sciences  College of Life Science, Shanghai Jiao
 Tong University
 Cell phone: 13621806236.
 China Shanghai
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Re: [gmx-users] binding sites with MD

2014-05-24 Thread Michael Shirts
Vmd can convert trajectories, as can other tools. Google is your friend!

Sent from my iPhone

 On May 24, 2014, at 15:13, Albert mailmd2...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 this plug-in looks interesting.
 
 However, as far as I saw from the tutorial that even we run simulation from 
 Gromacs, this plugin can only import NAMD psf and DCD to analysis. That's  a 
 headache issue. Can you improve this vmd plugin so that it can also read 
 Gromacs format files directly?
 
 best
 Albert
 
 
 On 05/24/2014 07:02 PM, Tom Dodson wrote:
 Nidhi,
 
 You might be interested in this tool:http://prody.csb.pitt.edu/drugui/
 Here are slide from a talk about the method:
 http://mmbios.org/images/workshops/HandsOn2014/Lecture3.pdf
 And here is a tutorial:
 http://prody.csb.pitt.edu/tutorials/drugui_tutorial/drugui_tutorial.pdf
 
 I am sure that you could use GROMACS to do the simulated annealing step
 instead of NAMD.
 
 Tom
 
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[gmx-users] How to create a new lipid molecule topology if I have .pdb file for a molecule?

2014-05-24 Thread Todor Antonijevic
Hi,

I am relatively new user of Gromacs and I struggle for last few weeks to
create a topology file for a new lipid molecule. I would appreciate any
help on this matter. In more detail, how one creates a topology file for
Charmm36, slipid, GAFF and Berger force field just knowing .pdb file for
that molecule, and is there any useful tutorial or paper that discuss this
matter?

Thank you,

Anton
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Re: [gmx-users] binding sites with MD

2014-05-24 Thread Albert
I know that. But none of this tool is perfect and they are always this 
or that problem. It would be better if this tool can natively support 
Gromaccs.


thx
Albert

On 05/24/2014 11:00 PM, Michael Shirts wrote:

Vmd can convert trajectories, as can other tools. Google is your friend!

Sent from my iPhone


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