Re: [gmx-users] adding metal ion

2015-03-09 Thread Smith, Micholas D.

Adding an individual ion to a protein complex is simple: just open vmd or other 
visualization/building software, and position the ion where you expect it to 
be. Run energy minimization and check to make sure the ion is where you expect 
it to be.  

Now the tricky part is to make sure you have the proper parameters for the ion. 
With that in mind you should ask yourself, before going any further: 

Is the ion crucial to the behaviour of the system you are studying? If so, does 
the force-field you are using have the parameters for this ion? If not, you are 
going to need to find some. If no one has published any parameters, than you 
are going to need to parameterize the ion in question (selenium) yourself, 
which can be quite a labor intensive process.

===
Micholas Dean Smith, PhD.
Post-doctoral Research Associate
University of Tennessee/Oak Ridge National Laboratory
Center for Molecular Biophysics


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hello users
I need to add selenium ion in the protein complex. Can anyone tell me how
to add a metal ion in gromacs? I posted the question before but I didn't
get any reply so I am posting again. Please tell me if anybody knows.
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[gmx-users] Error: see option -rdd, for pairs and tabulated bonds also see option -ddcheck

2015-03-09 Thread gromacs query
Hi All,

I am doing CG membrane with protein. After running long simulation I am
getting this error:

Fatal error:
2 of the 13319 bonded interactions could not be calculated because some
atoms involved moved further apart than the multi-body cut-off distance
(1.4 nm) or the two-body cut-off distance (1.4 nm), see option -rdd, for
pairs and tabulated bonds also see option -ddcheck
For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS



I could not find this on google. Should I restart with something like -rdd
2 or so? I am just wondering how it will influence my overall calculations?
I think it will reduce ns/day? or is there any serious energy related
issues?

Thanks,
JIom
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Re: [gmx-users] Gromacs with InflateGro

2015-03-09 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Anthony,

I'm currently working on an alternative program to put things in an AA
membrane. If you want, you can send me the protein (off-list) and I can
give it a try.

Cheers,

Tsjerk

On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 6:03 PM, Nash, Anthony a.n...@ucl.ac.uk wrote:

 Hi all,

 I'm really struggling to get InflateGro to work in a dimer + lipid (no
 water or ions) system. The fault seems to happen when the regular
 expression to break the .gro entry reads in an entry from C  to C1.
 I managed to generalise the regex further and now using substr to
 explicitly pull out the entries I want. Unfortunately I'm a little confused
 as to the purpose of a variable called 'now'.  Has anyone got a bullet
 proof copy of the code working with + atoms as I've had enough going
 through this file.

 I also tried InflateGro2, which passes the first two iterations but then
 dies after the second. It can't find tmp_out.gro, as the previous entry
 hadn't successfully passed grompp due to a difference in atom count between
 .gro and .top.


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 Anthony
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Re: [gmx-users] gromacs.org_gmx-users Digest, Vol 131, Issue 41

2015-03-09 Thread Xingcheng Lin
Hi Mark,

-cl only gives me the central structure of that cluster. What I need is an
expanded .xtc file with every structure in that cluster. Is there any way
to realize that?

Thank you,
Xingcheng


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2. definition of eigenvector in gromacs (Brett)
3. adding metal ion (Meenakshi Rajput)
4. Re: definition of eigenvector in gromacs (Tsjerk Wassenaar)
5. Re: definition of eigenvector in gromacs (ms)


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 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2015 02:04:47 +0100
 From: Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com
 To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-us...@gromacs.org
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Separate .xtc file according to the result
 fromg_cluster
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 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

 Hi,

 gmx cluster -h is a good friend ;-) see the -cl option.

 Mark

 On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 1:49 AM, Xingcheng Lin linxingcheng50...@gmail.com
 
 wrote:

  Hi,
 
  Is there any short way to seperate the .xtc file according to the results
  from g_cluster? For example, I want to chop the .xtc file into several
  small trajectories, each includes all the snapshots from the clusters
 given
  by g_cluster?
 
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 To: gmx-users gmx-us...@gromacs.org
 Subject: [gmx-users] definition of eigenvector in gromacs
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 Dear All,

 Recently I have read a gromacs related article which contain a sentence
 Trajectories pojected on the first two eigenvectors. Will you please tell
 me the meaning of eigenvector and Trajectories pojected on the first two
 eigenvectors? Will you please also explain it to me using common-used
 words simple as desk, meal, earth, etc?

 Brett



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 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2015 13:41:01 +0530
 From: Meenakshi Rajput ashi.rajpu...@gmail.com
 To: gromacs.org_gmx-users@maillist.sys.kth.se
 Subject: [gmx-users] adding metal ion
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 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

 hello users
 I need to add selenium ion in the protein complex. Can anyone tell me how
 to add a metal ion in gromacs? I posted the question before but I didn't
 get any reply so I am posting again. Please tell me if anybody knows.


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 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2015 10:19:21 +0100
 From: Tsjerk Wassenaar tsje...@gmail.com
 To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-us...@gromacs.org
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] definition of eigenvector in gromacs
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 cabze1sjzo4e+6omb8_t_h3htvhjpr3m7wnpyvjczne+gmfk...@mail.gmail.com
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 Hi Brett,

 Let's say you're sitting at your _desk_ writing that paper with a deadline
 yesterday and you put a quick _meal_ next to you, wondering why on _earth_
 you keep up with this. Your hands are moving between the meal and the
 keyboard. You notice that the average position of your hands is somewhere
 between the two and mark the mean position on your desk. Then you draw a
 line through it that corresponds to the major extent of the motion of your
 hands, and write 'eigenvector 1' along it. You add a line through the
 average position, perfectly perpendicular to the first, and write
 'eigenvector 2' along it. Now you can project every position of your hands
 onto your desk, giving it an 'eigenvector 1' coordinate (or score) and an
 'eigenvector 2' coordinate (or score). You notice that it's only part of
 the total motion, as you neglect the height, 

[gmx-users] Walls - segmentation fault

2015-03-09 Thread Aranha, Michelle
Hello,

When I use walls with pbc  =xy for the nanotube membrane - water system I get 
the following error which results in a segmentation fault:
DD cell 0 0 0 could only obtain 126 of the 130 atoms that are connected via 
constraints from the neighboring cells. This probably means your constraint 
lengths are too long compared to the domain decomposition cell size. Decrease 
the number of domain decomposition grid cells or lincs-order.

I have tried decreasing lincs order with no success.I am using Gromacs 4.6.1 
(single precision), 2 cores. The simulation runs fine in 3d pbc without walls.
Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated.

Best regards,
Michelle?

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[gmx-users] walls - segmentation fault

2015-03-09 Thread Aranha, Michelle
Hello,

When I use walls with pbc  =xy for the nanotube membrane - water system I get 
the following error which results in a segmentation fault:
DD cell 0 0 0 could only obtain 126 of the 130 atoms that are connected via 
constraints from the neighboring cells. This probably means your constraint 
lengths are too long compared to the domain decomposition cell size. Decrease 
the number of domain decomposition grid cells or lincs-order.

I have tried decreasing lincs order with no success.I am using Gromacs 4.6.1 
(single precision), 2 cores. The simulation runs fine in 3d pbc without walls.
Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated.

Best regards,
Michelle??

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Re: [gmx-users] definition of eigenvector in gromacs

2015-03-09 Thread Mark Abraham
lulz, that's gold! Now, is that too long for an end-of-mdrun GROMACS quote?
:-)

Mark

On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Tsjerk Wassenaar tsje...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Brett,

 Let's say you're sitting at your _desk_ writing that paper with a deadline
 yesterday and you put a quick _meal_ next to you, wondering why on _earth_
 you keep up with this. Your hands are moving between the meal and the
 keyboard. You notice that the average position of your hands is somewhere
 between the two and mark the mean position on your desk. Then you draw a
 line through it that corresponds to the major extent of the motion of your
 hands, and write 'eigenvector 1' along it. You add a line through the
 average position, perfectly perpendicular to the first, and write
 'eigenvector 2' along it. Now you can project every position of your hands
 onto your desk, giving it an 'eigenvector 1' coordinate (or score) and an
 'eigenvector 2' coordinate (or score). You notice that it's only part of
 the total motion, as you neglect the height, which will be a third line,
 perpendicular to the desk.

 You can look at it a bit differently and say that your desk is the subspace
 of your real space, spanned by the two perpendicular vectors, which
 together describe most of your hand's motion.

 I hope this makes some sense :)

 Cheers,

 Tsjerk





 On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 2:33 AM, Brett brettliu...@163.com wrote:

  Dear All,
 
  Recently I have read a gromacs related article which contain a sentence
  Trajectories pojected on the first two eigenvectors. Will you please
 tell
  me the meaning of eigenvector and Trajectories pojected on the first
 two
  eigenvectors? Will you please also explain it to me using common-used
  words simple as desk, meal, earth, etc?
 
  Brett
 
 
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Re: [gmx-users] Error: see option -rdd, for pairs and tabulated bonds also see option -ddcheck

2015-03-09 Thread Mark Abraham
Hi,

Very likely your run is blowing up from (long-time) instability - two atoms
have moved some crazy amount. You can probably confirm that from the time
series of some observables.

Mark

On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 12:54 PM, gromacs query gromacsqu...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi All,

 I am doing CG membrane with protein. After running long simulation I am
 getting this error:

 Fatal error:
 2 of the 13319 bonded interactions could not be calculated because some
 atoms involved moved further apart than the multi-body cut-off distance
 (1.4 nm) or the two-body cut-off distance (1.4 nm), see option -rdd, for
 pairs and tabulated bonds also see option -ddcheck
 For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS



 I could not find this on google. Should I restart with something like -rdd
 2 or so? I am just wondering how it will influence my overall calculations?
 I think it will reduce ns/day? or is there any serious energy related
 issues?

 Thanks,
 JIom
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Re: [gmx-users] gromacs.org_gmx-users Digest, Vol 131, Issue 41

2015-03-09 Thread Mark Abraham
On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 4:33 PM, Xingcheng Lin linxingcheng50...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi Mark,

 -cl only gives me the central structure of that cluster. What I need is an
 expanded .xtc file with every structure in that cluster. Is there any way
 to realize that?


Yes, as documented in gmx cluster -h in the part that talks about -cl plus
some other optional flags. :-)

Mark


 Thank you,
 Xingcheng


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  Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2015 02:04:47 +0100
  From: Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com
  To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-us...@gromacs.org
  Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Separate .xtc file according to the result
  fromg_cluster
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  Hi,
 
  gmx cluster -h is a good friend ;-) see the -cl option.
 
  Mark
 
  On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 1:49 AM, Xingcheng Lin 
 linxingcheng50...@gmail.com
  
  wrote:
 
   Hi,
  
   Is there any short way to seperate the .xtc file according to the
 results
   from g_cluster? For example, I want to chop the .xtc file into several
   small trajectories, each includes all the snapshots from the clusters
  given
   by g_cluster?
  
   Thank you,
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  Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2015 09:33:16 +0800 (CST)
  From: Brett brettliu...@163.com
  To: gmx-users gmx-us...@gromacs.org
  Subject: [gmx-users] definition of eigenvector in gromacs
  Message-ID: 77570a06.253b.14bfc2a2adc.coremail.brettliu...@163.com
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GBK
 
  Dear All,
 
  Recently I have read a gromacs related article which contain a sentence
  Trajectories pojected on the first two eigenvectors. Will you please
 tell
  me the meaning of eigenvector and Trajectories pojected on the first
 two
  eigenvectors? Will you please also explain it to me using common-used
  words simple as desk, meal, earth, etc?
 
  Brett
 
 
 
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  Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2015 13:41:01 +0530
  From: Meenakshi Rajput ashi.rajpu...@gmail.com
  To: gromacs.org_gmx-users@maillist.sys.kth.se
  Subject: [gmx-users] adding metal ion
  Message-ID:
  
  cah5gtbke-72ayboctzh91jdq5z0_ew8nhmgbgmrvxzy6aug...@mail.gmail.com
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
 
  hello users
  I need to add selenium ion in the protein complex. Can anyone tell me how
  to add a metal ion in gromacs? I posted the question before but I didn't
  get any reply so I am posting again. Please tell me if anybody knows.
 
 
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  Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2015 10:19:21 +0100
  From: Tsjerk Wassenaar tsje...@gmail.com
  To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-us...@gromacs.org
  Subject: Re: [gmx-users] definition of eigenvector in gromacs
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  cabze1sjzo4e+6omb8_t_h3htvhjpr3m7wnpyvjczne+gmfk...@mail.gmail.com
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
 
  Hi Brett,
 
  Let's say you're sitting at your _desk_ writing that paper with a
 deadline
  yesterday and you put a quick _meal_ next to you, wondering why on
 _earth_
  you keep up with this. Your hands are moving between the meal and the
  keyboard. You notice that the average position of your hands is somewhere
  between the two and mark the mean position on your desk. Then you draw a
  line through it that corresponds to the major extent of the motion of
 your
  hands, and write 'eigenvector 1' along it. You add a line through 

[gmx-users] initial position?

2015-03-09 Thread Sadeghi, Ehsan
Hi,

I have simulated ionomer on Pt surface. I freezed  the Pt and put 5 ionomer 
polymers on top of it in a distance. Depends on the position of these polymers, 
it will get different results. Is it possible? For some cases, the ionomer 
backbone goes out of the box and interact with the neighbor molecules. How can 
I solve this problem?

Kind regards,
Ehsan
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Re: [gmx-users] Writing out the neighbor list

2015-03-09 Thread Mark Abraham
Hi,

Not really. gmx mdrun -debug n for sufficiently large n (3?) will print out
the IDs of the i and j clusters that are in the cluster-pair list for its
duration, but of course that's buffered and does not correspond directly to
anything that leads to physics. To get a list of particles that interact at
a given time step, you'd have to hack a C kernel that also dumped the atom
indices of pairs that were actually within the cutoff; very doable for the
single-domain case, but not already done for you.

Mark

On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 9:48 PM, Alan Manning mann...@physics.ubc.ca wrote:

 Hi

 Is it possible to have Gromacs write out the neighbor lists as well as the
 trajectories? Thanks.

 Regards,
 Alan Manning
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Re: [gmx-users] initial position?

2015-03-09 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 3/9/15 4:56 PM, Sadeghi, Ehsan wrote:

Hi,

I have simulated ionomer on Pt surface. I freezed  the Pt and put 5 ionomer 
polymers on top of it in a distance. Depends on the position of these polymers, 
it will get different results. Is it possible? For some cases, the ionomer 
backbone goes out of the box and interact with the neighbor molecules. How can 
I solve this problem?



This is why it is standard practice to run multiple simulations from different 
starting velocities or initial configurations.  Proper sampling is key.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Writing out the neighbor list

2015-03-09 Thread Alan Manning
Ah OK. I'll probably implement a neighbor list after the fact from the 
trajectory data itself. Thanks.


On 15-03-09 03:17 PM, Mark Abraham wrote:

Hi,

Not really. gmx mdrun -debug n for sufficiently large n (3?) will print out
the IDs of the i and j clusters that are in the cluster-pair list for its
duration, but of course that's buffered and does not correspond directly to
anything that leads to physics. To get a list of particles that interact at
a given time step, you'd have to hack a C kernel that also dumped the atom
indices of pairs that were actually within the cutoff; very doable for the
single-domain case, but not already done for you.

Mark

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Hi

Is it possible to have Gromacs write out the neighbor lists as well as the
trajectories? Thanks.

Regards,
Alan Manning
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Re: [gmx-users] definition of eigenvector in gromacs

2015-03-09 Thread Antonio Baptista

Tsjerk, that's one of the coolest explanations of PCA I've ever read! :)

Just one additional comment for Brett: Tsjerk's example assumes implicitly 
that your hands are actually moving parallel to the desk on average. On my 
desk, the meal is usually on top of the pile of papers that mysteriously 
keeps growing to the left of my keyboard. So, my hands don't move parallel 
to the desk, but along an inclined plane that raises from the keyboard to 
the meal position and is slightly tilted towards me (yeah, I know I should 
sit straight...). Therefore, the average position of my hands and their 
direction of major extent (eigenvector 1) should be marked on that plane, 
not on the desk, and the second direction (eigenvector 2) is a line also 
on that plane drawn perpendicularly to the first. As in Tsjerk's example, 
if I project every position of my hands onto this resulting PCA plane I 
will probably capture most of their motion, without having to consider the 
third direction perpendicular to the plane.


My point is that the subspace obtained from PCA is often different from 
the one that seems more natural to us (which was perhaps not obvious in 
Tsjerk's example). Although my desk is the natural reference frame when 
I'm working, my hands' motion can be more easily described in terms of 
positions on the plane I've just described, since I roughly need just 2 
coordinates instead of the original 3. That's the aim of PCA -- to 
describe the original motion using fewer coordinates.


Incidentally, this also shows that a messy desk is scientifically more 
fruitful than a tidy one... ;)


Cheers,
Antonio

On Mon, 9 Mar 2015, Tsjerk Wassenaar wrote:


Hi Brett,

Let's say you're sitting at your _desk_ writing that paper with a deadline
yesterday and you put a quick _meal_ next to you, wondering why on _earth_
you keep up with this. Your hands are moving between the meal and the
keyboard. You notice that the average position of your hands is somewhere
between the two and mark the mean position on your desk. Then you draw a
line through it that corresponds to the major extent of the motion of your
hands, and write 'eigenvector 1' along it. You add a line through the
average position, perfectly perpendicular to the first, and write
'eigenvector 2' along it. Now you can project every position of your hands
onto your desk, giving it an 'eigenvector 1' coordinate (or score) and an
'eigenvector 2' coordinate (or score). You notice that it's only part of
the total motion, as you neglect the height, which will be a third line,
perpendicular to the desk.

You can look at it a bit differently and say that your desk is the subspace
of your real space, spanned by the two perpendicular vectors, which
together describe most of your hand's motion.

I hope this makes some sense :)

Cheers,

Tsjerk





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Dear All,

Recently I have read a gromacs related article which contain a sentence
Trajectories pojected on the first two eigenvectors. Will you please tell
me the meaning of eigenvector and Trajectories pojected on the first two
eigenvectors? Will you please also explain it to me using common-used
words simple as desk, meal, earth, etc?

Brett


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Re: [gmx-users] definition of eigenvector in gromacs

2015-03-09 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Brett,

Let's say you're sitting at your _desk_ writing that paper with a deadline
yesterday and you put a quick _meal_ next to you, wondering why on _earth_
you keep up with this. Your hands are moving between the meal and the
keyboard. You notice that the average position of your hands is somewhere
between the two and mark the mean position on your desk. Then you draw a
line through it that corresponds to the major extent of the motion of your
hands, and write 'eigenvector 1' along it. You add a line through the
average position, perfectly perpendicular to the first, and write
'eigenvector 2' along it. Now you can project every position of your hands
onto your desk, giving it an 'eigenvector 1' coordinate (or score) and an
'eigenvector 2' coordinate (or score). You notice that it's only part of
the total motion, as you neglect the height, which will be a third line,
perpendicular to the desk.

You can look at it a bit differently and say that your desk is the subspace
of your real space, spanned by the two perpendicular vectors, which
together describe most of your hand's motion.

I hope this makes some sense :)

Cheers,

Tsjerk





On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 2:33 AM, Brett brettliu...@163.com wrote:

 Dear All,

 Recently I have read a gromacs related article which contain a sentence
 Trajectories pojected on the first two eigenvectors. Will you please tell
 me the meaning of eigenvector and Trajectories pojected on the first two
 eigenvectors? Will you please also explain it to me using common-used
 words simple as desk, meal, earth, etc?

 Brett


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[gmx-users] adding metal ion

2015-03-09 Thread Meenakshi Rajput
hello users
I need to add selenium ion in the protein complex. Can anyone tell me how
to add a metal ion in gromacs? I posted the question before but I didn't
get any reply so I am posting again. Please tell me if anybody knows.
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Re: [gmx-users] definition of eigenvector in gromacs

2015-03-09 Thread ms
I am gluing this email exchange to my office wall. This is just awesome. 
Thanks to you all.


On 3/9/15 10:19 AM, Tsjerk Wassenaar wrote:

Hi Brett,

Let's say you're sitting at your _desk_ writing that paper with a deadline
yesterday and you put a quick _meal_ next to you, wondering why on _earth_
you keep up with this. Your hands are moving between the meal and the
keyboard. You notice that the average position of your hands is somewhere
between the two and mark the mean position on your desk. Then you draw a
line through it that corresponds to the major extent of the motion of your
hands, and write 'eigenvector 1' along it. You add a line through the
average position, perfectly perpendicular to the first, and write
'eigenvector 2' along it. Now you can project every position of your hands
onto your desk, giving it an 'eigenvector 1' coordinate (or score) and an
'eigenvector 2' coordinate (or score). You notice that it's only part of
the total motion, as you neglect the height, which will be a third line,
perpendicular to the desk.

You can look at it a bit differently and say that your desk is the subspace
of your real space, spanned by the two perpendicular vectors, which
together describe most of your hand's motion.

I hope this makes some sense :)

Cheers,

Tsjerk





On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 2:33 AM, Brett brettliu...@163.com wrote:


Dear All,

Recently I have read a gromacs related article which contain a sentence
Trajectories pojected on the first two eigenvectors. Will you please tell
me the meaning of eigenvector and Trajectories pojected on the first two
eigenvectors? Will you please also explain it to me using common-used
words simple as desk, meal, earth, etc?

Brett


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