Re: [gmx-users] pdb2gmx and periodic molecule

2015-04-26 Thread Alex




Well, none of us in this project have the scripting skills necessary for this, that's sort of the problem...

Thanks,

Alex








Hi Alex,
I think the best way is to extend the chain, such that you get an overlap between both ends. So for a stretch of DNA
ACGT
You would generate
TACGTA
Then you strip off the terminal atoms and rewire the links over the boundary. It requires renumbering the topology and at first looks a bit cumbersome, but this ensures all the links are correct and the modifications of the termini have no effect, and it's not very hard to script. And, of course, scripting it is a one time effort to avoid doing it manually later.
Cheers,
Tsjerk
On Apr 26, 2015 5:55 AM, "Alex" nedoma...@gmail.com wrote:

JL The force field parameters for a phosphodiester are the same in a linear, finite
JL DNA as they will be in your infinite chain.

I didn't mean that anything would need to be changed in the description of residues. The FF handles a
finite chain perfectly.

JL The problem is in telling pdb2gmx
JL "don't link i,i+1 here, instead link i,i+(some number of intervening nucleotides)."

This is exactly what I meant, the linking. Is there a way to achieve this
without messing with the code? I just haven't looked at the code, so
if you think I'm being a cheeky little bastard, I'll accept that. :)

Thanks,

Alex


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[gmx-users] on the MDP options

2015-04-26 Thread Brett
Dear All,
 
In the on-line lysozyme tutorial, it gives a series of mdp files. But it 
meantioned for different force fields the options should be different.
 
Will you please tell me regardless of force fields, whether all the 
cutoff-scheme can be Verlet? Besides I can change the rcoulomb and rvdw fom 1.0 
to 1.4, what else should I change on the basis of the on-line tutorial MDP 
files, with the difference of the force fields?
 
I am looking forward to getting your reply.
 
Brett
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Re: [gmx-users] how to name HIS in the input pdb for the pdb2gmx

2015-04-26 Thread Mark Abraham
Hi,

Files in fixed-column formats use the column widths to separate elements.
They don't use white space at the same time, for the same job! Try it and
see ;-)

Mark
On 26/04/2015 6:29 am, Brett brettliu...@163.com wrote:

 Dear All,

 If we change HIS188 in Chain B to HISE188 in Chain B, before change the
 PDB looks like
 HIS B  188, but after change the PDB will look like HISEB 188, which
 makes thereis no space between HISE and Bchain. I do not know whether
 pdb2gmx can recognize HISEB 188, or we process it in some other way.

 I am looking forward to getting a reply from you.

 Brett








 At 2015-04-26 11:08:19, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:
 
 
 On 4/25/15 11:05 PM, Brett wrote:
  Dear All,
 
  For gromacs, for HIS residues there are HISD,HISE and HISH. In the
 original PDB file, are HIS residues are written as HIS. If based on
 necessity, I change exactly some HIS to HISD, some HIS to HISE and some HIS
 to HISH,the coordinate lines contaning HISD,HISE and HISH will not aling
 with all the other coordinate lines. Does pdb2gmx recognize these
 non-aligned coordinate lines? Or what other strategy you recommend me to
 take so that pdb2gmx can recognize HISD,HISE and HISH?
 
 
 Do the replacement properly and don't screw up column alignment.  It
 needs to be
 correct for proper interpretation of the coordinates.
 
 -Justin
 
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Re: [gmx-users] pdb2gmx and periodic molecule

2015-04-26 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Alex,

I think the best way is to extend the chain, such that you get an overlap
between both ends. So for a stretch of DNA

ACGT

You would generate

TACGTA

Then you strip off the terminal atoms and rewire the links over the
boundary. It requires renumbering the topology and at first looks a bit
cumbersome, but this ensures all the links are correct and the
modifications of the termini have no effect, and it's not very hard to
script. And, of course, scripting it is a one time effort to avoid doing it
manually later.

Cheers,

Tsjerk
On Apr 26, 2015 5:55 AM, Alex nedoma...@gmail.com wrote:

 JL The force field parameters for a phosphodiester are the same in a
 linear, finite
 JL DNA as they will be in your infinite chain.

 I didn't mean that anything would need to be changed in the description of
 residues. The FF handles a
 finite chain perfectly.

 JL The problem is in telling pdb2gmx
 JL don't link i,i+1 here, instead link i,i+(some number of intervening
 nucleotides).

 This is exactly what I meant, the linking. Is there a way to achieve this
 without messing with the code? I just haven't looked at the code, so
 if you think I'm being a cheeky little bastard, I'll accept that. :)

 Thanks,

 Alex


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Re: [gmx-users] Molecule specific explosion

2015-04-26 Thread Mark Abraham
Hi,

Look at the whole molecule topology. Don't ignore any warnings.

Mark
On 26/04/2015 9:38 am, Eric Smoll ericsm...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Gromacs Users,

 I have constructed a multi-component solution and, during energy
 minimization, one molecule type is radically deforming under ~ 0.2 ps. All
 molecules of this type explode simultaneously. Looking over the topology,
 all the atoms in this molecules appear to have correct forcefield
 assignments. I am writing to ask if anyone might have a suggestion on how I
 can identify the origin of this problem.

 Best,
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[gmx-users] Molecule specific explosion

2015-04-26 Thread Eric Smoll
Hello Gromacs Users,

I have constructed a multi-component solution and, during energy
minimization, one molecule type is radically deforming under ~ 0.2 ps. All
molecules of this type explode simultaneously. Looking over the topology,
all the atoms in this molecules appear to have correct forcefield
assignments. I am writing to ask if anyone might have a suggestion on how I
can identify the origin of this problem.

Best,
Eric
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[gmx-users] on the xmgrac for gromacs

2015-04-26 Thread Brett
Dear All,
 
For the grpmacs analysis purpose, from the official GRACE site I have 
downloaded and installed different versions of GRACE, some was said to 
definitely contains xmgrace. But after installation, none contains xmgrace, 
they contain grace or gr in the bin folder. After I invoke the grace or gr, 
both needs me input commands, and if I input grace -nxy potential.xvg, they did 
not work.
 
My workstation is a red hat linux system, and I do not know whether there is X  
windows installed.
 
Will you please let me know how to have my  xmgrace -nxy potential.xvg 
function works?
 
Brett

 
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Re: [gmx-users] on the xmgrac for gromacs

2015-04-26 Thread Brett
The issue is, no mater grace or xmggrace I download, I cannot have the xmgrace 
exe file in the corresponding bin folder produced.
 
Thus will you tell me which version of grace  has the xmgrace after unpack and 
installation?
 
Brett



At 2015-04-26 23:09:23, abhijit Kayal abhijitchemi...@gmail.com wrote:
the command is xmgrace, try with xmgrace -nxy.

On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 7:01 AM, Brett brettliu...@163.com wrote:

 Dear All,

 For the grpmacs analysis purpose, from the official GRACE site I have
 downloaded and installed different versions of GRACE, some was said to
 definitely contains xmgrace. But after installation, none contains xmgrace,
 they contain grace or gr in the bin folder. After I invoke the grace or gr,
 both needs me input commands, and if I input grace -nxy potential.xvg, they
 did not work.

 My workstation is a red hat linux system, and I do not know whether there
 is X  windows installed.

 Will you please let me know how to have my  xmgrace -nxy potential.xvg
 function works?

 Brett


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Re: [gmx-users] free energy

2015-04-26 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 4/26/15 8:54 AM, fatemeh ramezani wrote:

Dear gmx-usersI want to calculate free energy of binding of ligand to Au 
surface in 8 ns simulation. I considered 7 lambda (lambda= 0, 0.2, 0.4, 0.6, 
0.8, 0.9, 1) and for every lambda a mdp file. for example lambda-0 mdp file:
title   =  n.pdb restraining
cpp =  /lib/cpp
constraints =  all-bonds
constraint_algorithm = lincs
lincs_order = 4
lincs_iter  = 1
integrator  =  sd
dt  =  0.0008
nsteps  =  250
nstcomm =  100
nstcalcenergy   =  100
nstdhdl =  100
comm_mode   =
nstxout =  5000
nstvout =  5000
nstfout =  0
nstlog  =  5000
nstenergy   =  5000
nstlist =  10
ns_type =  grid
rlist   =  1.4
;rlistlong   =  2
coulombtype =  PME
rcoulomb=  1.4
rcoulomb-switch =  0.8
rvdw=  1
vdwtype =  shift
rvdw-switch =  0.9
fourierspacing  =  0.12
fourier_nx  =  0
fourier_ny  =  0
fourier_nz  =  0
pme_order   =  6
ewald_rtol  =  1e-5
optimize_fft=  yes

; Berendsen temperature coupling is on in three groups
Tcoupl  =  V-rescale
tau_t   =  0.1   0.1
tc-grps=  Protein   Non-Protein
ref_t   =  300   300
; Pressure coupling is  on
;Pcoupl  =  berendsen
Pcoupl  =  Parrinello-Rahman
Pcoupltype =  isotropic
tau_p   =  5
compressibility =  4.5e-5
ref_p   =  1.0
; Generate velocites is on at 300 K.
gen_vel =  yes
gen_temp=  300.0
gen_seed=  173529
energygrps  = Protein  Sol
freezegrps  = AU  AUI   AUC
freezedim   = Y Y Y  Y Y Y  Y Y Y
free-energy = yes
couple-moltype  = Protein2
init-lambda = 0
sc-power= 1
sc-sigma= 0.3
sc-alpha= 1
couple-intramol =  no
couple-lambda1  = vdwq
couple-lambda0  = none
foreign-lambda  = ALL_LAMBDAS$
As you can see dt= 0.0008, for 8 ns simulation, I should take the nstep of each 
Lambda 1 ( or I should divide 8 ns  between 7  Lambda)? In other words, the 
simulation time for each of the 7 lambda should be 8 ns or every lambda 
simulation time should be considered so that the total simulation time of 
lambdas be 8 ns?


How have you predetermined that you want 8 ns total, split over 7 states?  You 
should do some test runs to assess convergence and determine how much sampling 
per state is necessary, rather than just assume a certain time.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Using thermostats to create temperature gradient in system

2015-04-26 Thread Suzen, Mehmet
Hi Agnivo,

Temperature gradient means non-equilibrium MD (NEMD)

See notes from Prof. Martini:
https://nanohub.org/resources/7582/download/Martini_L10_NonequilibruimMD.pdf

What observable would you like to measure? Lets say you want to
measure observable A.

One procedure I can think of:

1.  You can run all system at T=300K with NVT. After equilibrium,
continue running all system at T=400K with freezing solvent group.
See, to how to freeze a group,
http://manual.gromacs.org/online/mdp_opt.html#neq

To get a good statistic, you need to repeat this procedure K times as
solvent thermal wall configuration  would be
different at each simulation.

100ps? Where did you get that? You need to see how observable A
behaves to see if 100ps is enough, A time average. And see how A
behaves in K different cases.


2. Similar to previous procedure but this time after freezing solvent
group, run system in NVE. Again, you need to repeat this
many times to get a good statistic. Similarly monitor observable A to
see if 500ps is enough.

However,  I suggest you to talk to someone having NEMD experience as
this procedure is just a heuristic approach.

-m
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Re: [gmx-users] a question related to gmx energy minimization

2015-04-26 Thread Brett
Dear Tsjerk,
 
Will you please explain to me why the RMSD in this step is so large? For this 
reason I think there is something wrong.
 
I am looking forward to getting a reply from you.
 
Brett








At 2015-04-26 20:59:59, Tsjerk Wassenaar tsje...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Brett,

Too high for what?

You do EM because you just built (part of) your system, and in doing so
introduced clashes and non-ideal geometries. These lead to high potential
energy, so you relax them with EM. What you see is how much the system
relaxed. Noone usually cares how much potential energy was lost during EM.
The thing that matters is whether the resulting system is relaxed enough to
run the simulation.

Cheers,

Tsjerk

On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Brett brettliu...@163.com wrote:

 Dear All,

 I just run the command gmx energy -f em.edr -o potential.xvg for my energy
 minimization step MD, but I find the RMSD given by this command is 142611,
 which I regard to be too high.

 Will you please explain to me what leads to the so high RMSD (Err.Est is
 53000, Tot-Drift is -341107 KJ/mol)?

 I am looking forward to getting your reply.

 Brett
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Re: [gmx-users] on the xmgrac for gromacs

2015-04-26 Thread abhijit Kayal
the command is xmgrace, try with xmgrace -nxy.

On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 7:01 AM, Brett brettliu...@163.com wrote:

 Dear All,

 For the grpmacs analysis purpose, from the official GRACE site I have
 downloaded and installed different versions of GRACE, some was said to
 definitely contains xmgrace. But after installation, none contains xmgrace,
 they contain grace or gr in the bin folder. After I invoke the grace or gr,
 both needs me input commands, and if I input grace -nxy potential.xvg, they
 did not work.

 My workstation is a red hat linux system, and I do not know whether there
 is X  windows installed.

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 function works?

 Brett


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Re: [gmx-users] a question related to gmx energy minimization

2015-04-26 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 4/26/15 9:53 AM, Brett wrote:

Dear Tsjerk,

Will you please explain to me why the RMSD in this step is so large? For this 
reason I think there is something wrong.



No, there's nothing wrong; the analysis in this case is meaningless.

Energy minimization inherently makes large (orders of magnitude in many cases) 
changes to the potential as the structure is relaxed.  An average energy over 
the course of this process has absolutely no physical meaning.


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Re: [gmx-users] a question related to gmx energy minimization

2015-04-26 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Brett,

Too high for what?

You do EM because you just built (part of) your system, and in doing so
introduced clashes and non-ideal geometries. These lead to high potential
energy, so you relax them with EM. What you see is how much the system
relaxed. Noone usually cares how much potential energy was lost during EM.
The thing that matters is whether the resulting system is relaxed enough to
run the simulation.

Cheers,

Tsjerk

On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Brett brettliu...@163.com wrote:

 Dear All,

 I just run the command gmx energy -f em.edr -o potential.xvg for my energy
 minimization step MD, but I find the RMSD given by this command is 142611,
 which I regard to be too high.

 Will you please explain to me what leads to the so high RMSD (Err.Est is
 53000, Tot-Drift is -341107 KJ/mol)?

 I am looking forward to getting your reply.

 Brett
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[gmx-users] a question related to gmx energy minimization

2015-04-26 Thread Brett
Dear All,
 
I just run the command gmx energy -f em.edr -o potential.xvg for my energy 
minimization step MD, but I find the RMSD given by this command is 142611, 
which I regard to be too high.
 
Will you please explain to me what leads to the so high RMSD (Err.Est is 53000, 
Tot-Drift is -341107 KJ/mol)?
 
I am looking forward to getting your reply.
 
Brett
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[gmx-users] free energy

2015-04-26 Thread fatemeh ramezani
Dear gmx-usersI want to calculate free energy of binding of ligand to Au 
surface in 8 ns simulation. I considered 7 lambda (lambda= 0, 0.2, 0.4, 0.6, 
0.8, 0.9, 1) and for every lambda a mdp file. for example lambda-0 mdp file:
title   =  n.pdb restraining
cpp =  /lib/cpp
constraints =  all-bonds
constraint_algorithm = lincs
lincs_order = 4
lincs_iter  = 1
integrator  =  sd 
dt  =  0.0008
nsteps  =  250
nstcomm =  100
nstcalcenergy   =  100
nstdhdl =  100
comm_mode   =  
nstxout =  5000
nstvout =  5000
nstfout =  0
nstlog  =  5000
nstenergy   =  5000
nstlist =  10
ns_type =  grid
rlist   =  1.4
;rlistlong   =  2
coulombtype =  PME
rcoulomb    =  1.4
rcoulomb-switch =  0.8
rvdw    =  1
vdwtype =  shift
rvdw-switch =  0.9
fourierspacing  =  0.12
fourier_nx  =  0
fourier_ny  =  0
fourier_nz  =  0
pme_order   =  6
ewald_rtol  =  1e-5
optimize_fft    =  yes
  
; Berendsen temperature coupling is on in three groups
Tcoupl  =  V-rescale
tau_t   =  0.1   0.1
tc-grps            =  Protein   Non-Protein
ref_t   =  300   300
; Pressure coupling is  on
;Pcoupl  =  berendsen
Pcoupl  =  Parrinello-Rahman
Pcoupltype =  isotropic
tau_p   =  5
compressibility =  4.5e-5
ref_p   =  1.0
; Generate velocites is on at 300 K.
gen_vel =  yes
gen_temp    =  300.0
gen_seed    =  173529
energygrps  = Protein  Sol 
freezegrps  = AU  AUI   AUC
freezedim   = Y Y Y  Y Y Y  Y Y Y
free-energy = yes
couple-moltype  = Protein2
init-lambda = 0
sc-power    = 1
sc-sigma    = 0.3
sc-alpha    = 1
couple-intramol =  no
couple-lambda1  = vdwq
couple-lambda0  = none
foreign-lambda  = ALL_LAMBDAS$
As you can see dt= 0.0008, for 8 ns simulation, I should take the nstep of each 
Lambda 1 ( or I should divide 8 ns  between 7  Lambda)? In other words, the 
simulation time for each of the 7 lambda should be 8 ns or every lambda 
simulation time should be considered so that the total simulation time of 
lambdas be 8 ns?
I hope I could correctly ask my question. I would greatly appreciate your 
response to my question.
 Fatemeh Ramezani
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Re: [gmx-users] Using thermostats to create temperature gradient in system

2015-04-26 Thread Suzen, Mehmet
Hi Agnivo;

Yes, the idea of freezing the solvent or the protein in many times is
to sample the non-equilibrium thermal process. It will remain in the
target temperature on average, over many fixed configurations obtained
by different NVT runs (equilibrium runs). But you may need to run this
many K times to get a good statistic as I said. Concerning NVE, yes,
do the same fixing approach with the protein. But as I mentioned
earlier, this is quite heuristic approach, I suggest you to talk with
any faculty member having background in non-equilibrium processes if
this approach mimics what you need.

Best,
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Re: [gmx-users] Using thermostats to create temperature gradient in system

2015-04-26 Thread Agnivo Gosai
Hello Users,

This is in relation to my previous posts.

I am looking to replicate the figure below :

​
 tempgradient.png
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-U8uULVZjfRQWlHeHVJdDJjcms/edit?usp=drive_web
​
Basically I am following this paper for my work :

​
 Lervik_ProtWatInterHT_2009.pdf
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-U8uULVZjfRU2haRkNHd2wwNTA/edit?usp=drive_web
​
Look at figure 6 of the paper.

My system has water at 300 K and protein at 400 K. The authors of the paper
describe that they removed the thermostat from the protein and let it relax
keeping the solvent (water) at 300 K.

But if I remove thermostat , I get GROMACS error and using freeze groups I
am not getting any temperatures as the molecules are not moving.

I can not understand how to model this system. Any suggestions will be
helpful. I am doing a literature search but till now it is not fruitful.

Best,
Thanks  Regards
Agnivo Gosai
Grad Student, Iowa State University.
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Re: [gmx-users] a question related to gmx energy minimization

2015-04-26 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 4/26/15 7:42 PM, Brett wrote:

Dear Justin,

I mean why the RMSD is such huge. Does it mean in the energy mminimization step 
the protein has moved from point A to point B which is long long distance away 
from point A but, although the protein has been continously embedded in water? 
If the RMSD is above several thousands, it would mean the protein conformation 
after energy minimization would be absolutely different from the input pdb for 
the pdb2gmx.

I am looking forward to getting a clarification.



Don't confuse the RMSD of the coordinates with the RMSD of the potential energy 
data series.


What gmx energy is printing is what you asked for - an analysis of the potential 
energy, so RMSD here is the RMSD of the energy values.  Even small changes in 
the structure can have very large effects on the energy.  You may go from +10^6 
before EM to -10^6 after EM.  That's 12 orders of magnitude difference in the 
energy, but your protein's RMSD is probably a fraction of an Angstrom.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Using thermostats to create temperature gradient in system

2015-04-26 Thread Agnivo Gosai
Hello all,

Thanks to Dr. Lemkul for asking.

This is what I did to reach my present state :

(a) Prepared the topology of the system using GROMOS96 43a2 ff and energy
minimized the system after solvation using steepest descent algorithm.

(b) Did a position restrained ( protein ) 5 ns


Fatal error:
2936 atoms are not part of any of the T-Coupling groups
For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS

Thanks  Regards
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Grad Student, Iowa State University.
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Re: [gmx-users] Using thermostats to create temperature gradient in system

2015-04-26 Thread Agnivo Gosai
Hello all,

Thanks to Dr. Lemkul for asking.

This is what I did to reach my present state :

(a) Prepared the topology of the system using GROMOS96 43a2 ff and energy
minimized the system after solvation using steepest descent algorithm.

(b) Did a position restrained ( protein restrained ) 5 ns NVT equilibration
using V-rescale thermostat at target temp. of 300 K.

(c) Then I kept the solvent at 300 K in a NVT ensemble and heated the
protein only by simulated annealing over 500 ps , to 400K. I checked the
individual temperatures and found that it was achieved.

(d) Then as mentioned in the paper if I remove the thermostat on the
protein then grompp gives the following error :-

Fatal error:
2936 atoms are not part of any of the T-Coupling groups
For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS

I want to let my protein loose heat and thus go down a temp. gradient while
the solvent i.e. water stays at 300 K. However , I am unable to do this. If
I do not specify any thermostat in a NVT ensemble it becomes NVE and I only
get a single temperature profile.

Any hints as to how I can achieve my objective ?

Sorry for the previous incomplete post.


Thanks  Regards
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Grad Student, Iowa State University.
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Re: [gmx-users] a question related to gmx energy minimization

2015-04-26 Thread Brett
Dear Justin,
 
I mean why the RMSD is such huge. Does it mean in the energy mminimization step 
the protein has moved from point A to point B which is long long distance away 
from point A but, although the protein has been continously embedded in water? 
If the RMSD is above several thousands, it would mean the protein conformation 
after energy minimization would be absolutely different from the input pdb for 
the pdb2gmx.
 
I am looking forward to getting a clarification.
 
Brett

 




At 2015-04-27 00:00:22, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:


On 4/26/15 9:53 AM, Brett wrote:
 Dear Tsjerk,

 Will you please explain to me why the RMSD in this step is so large? For 
 this reason I think there is something wrong.


No, there's nothing wrong; the analysis in this case is meaningless.

Energy minimization inherently makes large (orders of magnitude in many cases) 
changes to the potential as the structure is relaxed.  An average energy over 
the course of this process has absolutely no physical meaning.

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Using thermostats to create temperature gradient in system

2015-04-26 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 4/26/15 7:07 PM, Agnivo Gosai wrote:

Hello Users,

This is in relation to my previous posts.

I am looking to replicate the figure below :

​
  tempgradient.png
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-U8uULVZjfRQWlHeHVJdDJjcms/edit?usp=drive_web
​
Basically I am following this paper for my work :

​
  Lervik_ProtWatInterHT_2009.pdf
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-U8uULVZjfRU2haRkNHd2wwNTA/edit?usp=drive_web
​
Look at figure 6 of the paper.

My system has water at 300 K and protein at 400 K. The authors of the paper
describe that they removed the thermostat from the protein and let it relax
keeping the solvent (water) at 300 K.

But if I remove thermostat , I get GROMACS error and using freeze groups I
am not getting any temperatures as the molecules are not moving.



You'll have to show us what you're doing to get GROMACS error (what error? 
what were your input settings? Don't make us guess!)


Freezing groups means they have no temperature and they don't move.  This 
certainly isn't what you want.



I can not understand how to model this system. Any suggestions will be
helpful. I am doing a literature search but till now it is not fruitful.



Setting tau_t = -1 for the protein tc-grp will remove the thermostat; e.g. not 
couple it.  This sounds like what you want.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Using thermostats to create temperature gradient in system

2015-04-26 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 4/26/15 8:14 PM, Agnivo Gosai wrote:

Hello all,

Thanks to Dr. Lemkul for asking.

This is what I did to reach my present state :

(a) Prepared the topology of the system using GROMOS96 43a2 ff and energy
minimized the system after solvation using steepest descent algorithm.

(b) Did a position restrained ( protein ) 5 ns


Fatal error:
2936 atoms are not part of any of the T-Coupling groups
For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS



This means your tc-grps are set up incorrectly, but again you haven't provided 
your actual settings (copy and paste your .mdp when reporting problems - always).


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Using thermostats to create temperature gradient in system

2015-04-26 Thread Agnivo Gosai
Hello,

I am copy pasting my mdp file for the last step of my procedure :

Here I am not using any freeze group.

; Run parameters
integrator  = md; leap-frog integrator
nsteps  = 5; 100 ps
dt  = 0.002 ; 2 fs
energygrps  = Protein Non-Protein
; Output control
nstxout = 10
nstvout = 10
nstlog  = 10
nstenergy   = 10
nstxtcout   = 50
; Bond parameters
continuation= yes   ; after trial 400 K
constraint_algorithm = lincs; holonomic constraints
constraints = all-bonds ; all bonds (even heavy atom-H bonds)
constrained
lincs_iter  = 1 ; accuracy of LINCS
lincs_order = 4 ; also related to accuracy
; Neighborsearching
ns_type = grid  ; search neighboring grid cells
nstlist = 5 ; 10 fs
rlist   = 1.4   ; short-range neighborlist cutoff (in nm)
rcoulomb= 1.4   ; short-range electrostatic cutoff (in nm)
rvdw= 1.4   ; short-range van der Waals cutoff (in nm)
; Electrostatics
coulombtype = PME   ; Particle Mesh Ewald for long-range
electrostatics
pme_order   = 4 ; cubic interpolation
fourierspacing  = 0.16  ; grid spacing for FFT
fourier_nx  = 0
fourier_ny  = 0
fourier_nz  = 0
ewald_rtol  = 1e-5 ; relative strength of Ewald - shifted direct
potential
optimize_fft= yes ; saves computation time
; Temperature coupling is on
tcoupl  = V-rescale ; modified Berendsen thermostat
tc-grps = Non-Protein
tau_t   = 0.1   ; time constant, in ps
ref_t   = 300   ; reference temperature,in K
; Pressure coupling is off
pcoupl  = no ; no pressure coupling in NVT
; Periodic boundary conditions
pbc = xyz   ; 3-D PBC
; Dispersion correction
DispCorr= EnerPres  ; account for cut-off vdW scheme
; COM motion removal
; These options remove COM motion of the system
nstcomm = 100
comm-mode   = Linear
comm-grps   = System


Plz have a look.


Thanks  Regards
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Grad Student, Iowa State University.
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Re: [gmx-users] Using thermostats to create temperature gradient in system

2015-04-26 Thread Agnivo Gosai
Dr. Lemkul

Thanks for such an easy fix to my problem. I guess I have been doing all
sort of weird stuff since last night instead of thinking logically and
reading the relevant portion of the manual.


Thanks  Regards
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Re: [gmx-users] Using thermostats to create temperature gradient in system

2015-04-26 Thread Agnivo Gosai
Hello users,

Thanks a lot Suzen for an insightful suggestion. My protein and solvent
have been equilibrated at 300 K in an NVT ensemble.

I raised the temperature of protein gradually by using simulated annealing
to 400 K and the solvent has been kept at 300 K.

Now I wish to get a temperature gradient such that the temperature of the
protein comes down by exchanging heat with the solvent to 300 K.

So as per your suggestion , do I need to freeze the solvent group so that
its position will not be updated and hence it will have the same
temperature ??

For the protein if I do not use a thermostat , GROMACS will give error
message. So how do I fix this problem ?

Or, should I freeze the protein instead and use a thermostat on the solvent
?

I am trying both of these as I write this mail.


Thanks  Regards
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Grad Student, Iowa State University.
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Re: [gmx-users] Constraints and Energy Minimization

2015-04-26 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 4/26/15 3:40 PM, Eric Smoll wrote:

Hello Dr Lemkul,

Thank you for the clarification. To summarize: If I have a bond between two
atoms and one of the atoms has a topology atom field that begins with the
letter H, constraints=h-bonds will transform it into a constraint.



Exactly.


I have another question. When specifying this constrained bond, I have an
equilibrium distance but I do not have a force-constant. Is it irrelevant
what value I choose for the force constant if I apply constraints to that
bond?



Yes.

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Re: [gmx-users] Constraints and Energy Minimization

2015-04-26 Thread Eric Smoll
Hello Dr Lemkul,

Thank you for the clarification. To summarize: If I have a bond between two
atoms and one of the atoms has a topology atom field that begins with the
letter H, constraints=h-bonds will transform it into a constraint.

I have another question. When specifying this constrained bond, I have an
equilibrium distance but I do not have a force-constant. Is it irrelevant
what value I choose for the force constant if I apply constraints to that
bond?

Best,
Eric

On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 9:07 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 4/25/15 11:01 PM, Eric Smoll wrote:

 Hello Dr Lemkul,

 Thank you for the rapid response. It is much appreciated.

 On the subject of specifying constraints, how does the mdp keyword-value
 pair: constraints=h-bonds work?  How are the bonds with hydrogen
 detected?


 By atom name.  If the first character is 'H' it is converted to a
 constraint.

  Here are a few lines from ffnonbonded.itp in the oplsaa.ff. The atoms
 shown
 are for custom hydrogen additions to the opls forcefield. Note that the
 bond_type field begins with the element letter (in this case, C and
 H) and has a suffix.

 [ atomtypes ]

 ; full atom descriptions are available in ffoplsaa.atp
 ; name  bond_typemasscharge   ptype  sigma  epsilon
opls_972CA_C   6  12.01100-0.130   A3.55000e-01
   2.92880e-01  ;SIG
opls_973HA_C   1   1.00800 0.210   A2.42000e-01
   1.25520e-01  ;SIG


 This is only relevant for specifying, e.g. a bond in [bondtypes] between
 CA_C and HA_C.  If I understand your original question right, there are no
 parameters for these bonds, so this really isn't relevant.


 Similarly, here are a few lines from the topology I have built. Note that
 I
 prefer to have the atom field list the chemical element (again C and
 H) followed by a numerical suffix. In general my ffnonbonded bond_type
 field and the topology atom field do not match and are never just
 labeled
 with the element name.

 [ atoms ]
 ;   nr   type  resnr residue  atom   cgnr charge   mass  typeB
 chargeB  massB
1096   opls_972 42CCC C5332  -0.13 12.011   ;
 qtot -13.07
1097   opls_973 42CCC H6332   0.21  1.008   ;
 qtot -12.86

 Will constraints=h-bonds correctly identify C-H bonds in my system
 without manually adding to the topology?


 Yes.  If a bond is listed between the atoms, it will be converted.


 -Justin

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[gmx-users] difference of calculation time between the numbers of fep-lambdas values

2015-04-26 Thread nao.morishita
Dear Gromacs Users,

I would appreciate you to give me any comments or hints about the question 
below.
What makes the calculation time much longer when I calculate a solvation free 
energy using the mdp input1 compared to the mdp input2?

Input1
Free_energy   = yes
Couple-lambda0= vdw-q
Couple-lambda1= none
Couple-intramol   = no
Init-lambda-state = 2
Fep-lambdas   = 0.0 0.1 0.2 0.3 0.4 0.5 0.6 0.7 0.8 0.9 1.0
Calc-lambda-neighbors = 1
Input2
Free_energy   = yes
Couple-lambda0= vdw-q
Couple-lambda1= none
Couple-intramol   = no
Init-lambda-state = 2
Fep-lambdas   = 0.0 0.1 0.2
Calc-lambda-neighbors = 1

It takes three times longer when I write down 36 lambda values compared to 3 
lambda values even if there is no difference between mdp inputs other than the 
value of fep-lambdas and it is a normal free energy calculation not like 
Hamiltonian replica exchange calculation.

Thanks in advance and best regards,

Nao

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[gmx-users] the relationship between mdp file and the force field

2015-04-26 Thread Brett
Dear All,
 
In the on-line Justin tutorial on lysozyme, the several mdp files are for the 
specific force field OPLS-AA force field. It specifically mentioned Settings, 
particularly nonbonded interaction settings, will be different for other force 
fields.
 
Will you please introduce to me how to modify mdp files based on the difference 
of the force fields? For example, if I use force field 6, what should I modify 
based on the mdps of the lysozyme tutorial?
 
I am looking forward to getting your reply.
 
Brett
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