Re: [gmx-users] Energy minimization result problem

2014-04-13 Thread Mark Abraham
Hi,

Proteins do not have a single holy structure, nor is any given quantity of
MD going to find it, if it exists. Neither is there a single metric of
suitability - backbone strain as measured by Ramachandran plot deviations
could easily be the result of accommodating worse problems while stuck in a
local minimum. You can get zero deviations by unfolding the whole protein,
but that isn't going to tell you anything. Or the deviations could be good
things, because parts of your structure are atypical, but healthy.

Mark
On Apr 13, 2014 9:52 AM, neha_bharty nehabharty...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Justin Lemkul

 Thank you very much for your reply.
 I also preformed MD for 15 ns. After MD I check my protein model with
 Ramachandran Plot using Online Procheck server. But the result was same as
 after energy minimization. The residues which were present in allowed
 region
 was again less than that of previous protein.
 As I am new in gromacs I don't have much idea.
 In my view I guess after energy minimization and MD the residues which were
 present in allowed region of Ramachandran plot should be increases.
 And if it decreases it means the previous model is better.
 Is there any other way to check my protein model is better after energy
 minimization and MD or not??

 If require I can also send the .mdb file I have used for MD.



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Re: [gmx-users] Energy minimization result problem

2014-04-11 Thread neha_bharty
Hello
I am new user of gromacs. I am using gromacs 4.6.3
I wanted to minimize the energy of a protein. Before energy minimization the
prockeck result for Ramachandran plot was 89% in allowed region but after
energy minimization the result become worse i.e. 87%.
I was performing energy minimization to refine the model. But the model
become worse after that.
I Model the protein using homology modeling and needed it for docking

I am also doing it with different protein molecules but again the same
problem occurs.
I don't know that its normal or there is problem with my parameter or force
field.
I am also mentioning the detail of my energy minimization.

The details are: 
Force Field Used: CHARMM27 all-atom force field
Water Model: TIP3P

em.mdp file is:

; VARIOUS PREPROCESSING OPTIONS = 
title= 
cpp  = /lib/cpp
include  = 
define   = -DFLEXIBLE

; RUN CONTROL PARAMETERS = 
integrator   = steep
; start time and timestep in ps = 
tinit= 0
dt   = 0.002
nsteps   = 15000

; ENERGY MINIMIZATION OPTIONS = 
emtol= 10
emstep   = 0.1
nstcgsteep   = 1000

coulombtype =pme
nstenergy   =10

Please help me out for this. 


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Re: [gmx-users] Energy minimization result problem

2014-04-11 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 4/11/14, 7:47 AM, neha_bharty wrote:

Hello
I am new user of gromacs. I am using gromacs 4.6.3
I wanted to minimize the energy of a protein. Before energy minimization the
prockeck result for Ramachandran plot was 89% in allowed region but after
energy minimization the result become worse i.e. 87%.
I was performing energy minimization to refine the model. But the model
become worse after that.


That's not a huge change, nor is energy minimization rigorous enough to fully 
refine a model.  EM will probably optimize the side chains pretty well, but the 
backbone may require actual MD simulation to sample better conformations.  The 
changes that take place during EM are typically very small.



I Model the protein using homology modeling and needed it for docking

I am also doing it with different protein molecules but again the same
problem occurs.
I don't know that its normal or there is problem with my parameter or force
field.
I am also mentioning the detail of my energy minimization.

The details are:
Force Field Used: CHARMM27 all-atom force field
Water Model: TIP3P



CHARMM36 may be a better option.  The recalibration of the CMAP terms could be 
relevant here.  See http://mackerell.umaryland.edu/CHARMM_ff_params.html to 
download the force field files.


-Justin


em.mdp file is:

; VARIOUS PREPROCESSING OPTIONS =
title=
cpp  = /lib/cpp
include  =
define   = -DFLEXIBLE

; RUN CONTROL PARAMETERS =
integrator   = steep
; start time and timestep in ps =
tinit= 0
dt   = 0.002
nsteps   = 15000

; ENERGY MINIMIZATION OPTIONS =
emtol= 10
emstep   = 0.1
nstcgsteep   = 1000

coulombtype =pme
nstenergy   =10

Please help me out for this.


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