Re: [GROW] Working Group Call for draft-fiebig-grow-bgpopsecupd (start 06/Dec/2023 end 06/Jan/2024)

2023-12-06 Thread Randy Bush
> The author of draft-fiebig-grow-bgpopsecupd asked whether the
> GROW working group could consider adoption of their internet-draft.

imiho, not only should we consider adopting it, but we should adopt it
:)

i have quibbles, of course, but it would be useful

randy

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Re: [GROW] Working Group Call for draft-msri-grow-bmp-bgp-rib-stats (start 06/Dec/2023 end 06/Jan/2024)

2023-12-06 Thread Paolo Lucente



Hi Job, Chairs,

I have read and support adoption of this draft.

I find having counters about per-AFI/SAFI accepted / rejected routes per 
inbound / outbound policies as a nice complement to the REL draft where, 
for example, we would aim to dig deeper into such numbers.


Paolo


On 6/12/23 12:48, Job Snijders wrote:

Dear GROW,

The author of draft-msri-grow-bmp-bgp-rib-stats asked whether the
GROW working group could consider adoption of their internet-draft.

This message is a request to the group for feedback on whether this
internet-draft should be adopted.

Title: Definition For New BMP Statistics Type
Abstract:
   RFC 7854 defined different BMP statistics messages types to observe
   interesting events that occur on the router.  This document updates
   RFC 7854 by adding new statistics type.

The Internet-Draft can be found here:
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-msri-grow-bmp-bgp-rib-stats-00.html

*** NOTE *** This draft has nothing other than BMP code point requests
for counters. If adoption fails, the authors can go off an request FCFS
instead.

Please share with the mailing list if you would like this work to be
adopted by GROW, are willing to review and/or otherwise contribute to
this draft!

WG Adoption call ends January 6th, 2024.

Kind regards,

Job / Chris
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[GROW] The GROW WG has placed draft-pels-grow-yang-bgp-communities in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued"

2023-12-06 Thread IETF Secretariat


The GROW WG has placed draft-pels-grow-yang-bgp-communities in state
Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Job Snijders)

The document was previously in state Candidate for WG Adoption

The document is available at
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pels-grow-yang-bgp-communities/


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[GROW] The GROW WG has placed draft-msri-grow-bmp-bgp-rib-stats in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued"

2023-12-06 Thread IETF Secretariat


The GROW WG has placed draft-msri-grow-bmp-bgp-rib-stats in state
Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Job Snijders)

The document is available at
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-msri-grow-bmp-bgp-rib-stats/


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[GROW] The GROW WG has placed draft-fiebig-grow-bgpopsecupd in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued"

2023-12-06 Thread IETF Secretariat


The GROW WG has placed draft-fiebig-grow-bgpopsecupd in state
Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Job Snijders)

The document is available at
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-fiebig-grow-bgpopsecupd/


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[GROW] The GROW WG has placed draft-pels-grow-yang-bgp-communities in state "Candidate for WG Adoption"

2023-12-06 Thread IETF Secretariat


The GROW WG has placed draft-pels-grow-yang-bgp-communities in state
Candidate for WG Adoption (entered by Job Snijders)

The document is available at
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pels-grow-yang-bgp-communities/


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Re: [GROW] Working Group Call for draft-pels-grow-yang-bgp-communities (start 06/Dec/2023 end 06/Jan/2024)

2023-12-06 Thread Job Snijders
Dear Tom,

Did you watch the presentation on this topic in the IETF 118 GROW
session? https://youtu.be/vkU8qYzSt1c?si=zWKpMPfo0kW0DUgv=262

Kind regards,

Job

On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 05:05:53PM +, tom petch wrote:
> From: GROW  on behalf of Job Snijders 
> 
> Sent: 06 December 2023 15:42
> 
> Dear GROW,
> 
> The author of draft-pels-grow-yang-bgp-communities asked whether the
> GROW working group could consider adoption of their internet-draft.
> 
> This message is a request to the group for feedback on whether this
> internet-draft should be adopted.
> 
> Title: YANG Module for BGP Communities
> Abstract:
>   This document provides a YANG module for describing BGP communities.
> 
> 
> 
> Well, no, it is not aYANG module and I am not clear why it should be.
> 
> It is a data model that uses some of the constructs of RFC7950 but then 
> re-invents the wheel where the YANG community has already provided additional 
> data types for common types that appear in the work of the IETF.
> 
> A YANG data model is for operations, management, monitoring and I do not see 
> why and when such actions are needed for a BGP community.
> 
> I do not see a problem for which this is a solution; I wonder if those 
> reading this I-D will each project their own specific ideas onto this model 
> rendering it difficult, impossible even, to converge on a specific solution.
> 
> Tom Petch
> 
> 
> The Internet-Draft can be found here:
> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-pels-grow-yang-bgp-communities-00.html
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Please share with the mailing list if you would like this work to be
> adopted by GROW, are willing to review and/or otherwise contribute to
> this draft!
> 
> WG Adoption call ends January 6th, 2024.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Job / Chris
> GROW co-chairs
> 
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Re: [GROW] Working Group Call for draft-pels-grow-yang-bgp-communities (start 06/Dec/2023 end 06/Jan/2024)

2023-12-06 Thread tom petch
From: GROW  on behalf of Job Snijders 

Sent: 06 December 2023 15:42

Dear GROW,

The author of draft-pels-grow-yang-bgp-communities asked whether the
GROW working group could consider adoption of their internet-draft.

This message is a request to the group for feedback on whether this
internet-draft should be adopted.

Title: YANG Module for BGP Communities
Abstract:
  This document provides a YANG module for describing BGP communities.



Well, no, it is not aYANG module and I am not clear why it should be.

It is a data model that uses some of the constructs of RFC7950 but then 
re-invents the wheel where the YANG community has already provided additional 
data types for common types that appear in the work of the IETF.

A YANG data model is for operations, management, monitoring and I do not see 
why and when such actions are needed for a BGP community.

I do not see a problem for which this is a solution; I wonder if those reading 
this I-D will each project their own specific ideas onto this model rendering 
it difficult, impossible even, to converge on a specific solution.

Tom Petch


The Internet-Draft can be found here:
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-pels-grow-yang-bgp-communities-00.html






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this draft!

WG Adoption call ends January 6th, 2024.

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GROW co-chairs

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Re: [GROW] Working Group Call for draft-fiebig-grow-bgpopsecupd (start 06/Dec/2023 end 06/Jan/2024)

2023-12-06 Thread heasley
Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 11:05:41AM -0500, Jeffrey Haas:
> On Dec 6, 2023, at 10:45 AM, Job Snijders  
> wrote:
> > The author of draft-fiebig-grow-bgpopsecupd asked whether the
> > GROW working group could consider adoption of their internet-draft.
> > 
> > This message is a request to the group for feedback on whether this
> > internet-draft should be adopted.
> > 
> > Title: Updated BGP Operations and Security
> 
> I support adoption of this work.

support.

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Re: [GROW] Working Group Call for draft-msri-grow-bmp-bgp-rib-stats (start 06/Dec/2023 end 06/Jan/2024)

2023-12-06 Thread Jeffrey Haas
Thanks, Job.

As a reminder from the presentation at IETF 118, it's the desire for the 
authors to iterate in short order to:
- Ask for adoption and WG review of the counter code points because we believe 
they're worth standardizing.
- Get code points assigned after a short period of review.
- Ship code and RFC!

Note for the archives: I am unaware of any IPR applicable to this draft.

-- Jeff

> On Dec 6, 2023, at 10:48 AM, Job Snijders  
> wrote:
> 
> Dear GROW,
> 
> The author of draft-msri-grow-bmp-bgp-rib-stats asked whether the
> GROW working group could consider adoption of their internet-draft.
> 
> This message is a request to the group for feedback on whether this
> internet-draft should be adopted.
> 
> Title: Definition For New BMP Statistics Type
> Abstract:
>  RFC 7854 defined different BMP statistics messages types to observe
>  interesting events that occur on the router.  This document updates
>  RFC 7854 by adding new statistics type. 
> 
> The Internet-Draft can be found here:
> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-msri-grow-bmp-bgp-rib-stats-00.html
> 
> *** NOTE *** This draft has nothing other than BMP code point requests
> for counters. If adoption fails, the authors can go off an request FCFS
> instead.
> 
> Please share with the mailing list if you would like this work to be
> adopted by GROW, are willing to review and/or otherwise contribute to
> this draft!
> 
> WG Adoption call ends January 6th, 2024.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Job / Chris
> GROW co-chairs
> 
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Re: [GROW] Working Group Call for draft-fiebig-grow-bgpopsecupd (start 06/Dec/2023 end 06/Jan/2024)

2023-12-06 Thread Jeffrey Haas
On Dec 6, 2023, at 10:45 AM, Job Snijders  
wrote:
> The author of draft-fiebig-grow-bgpopsecupd asked whether the
> GROW working group could consider adoption of their internet-draft.
> 
> This message is a request to the group for feedback on whether this
> internet-draft should be adopted.
> 
> Title: Updated BGP Operations and Security

I support adoption of this work.

-- Jeff

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Re: [GROW] Working Group Call for draft-fiebig-grow-bgpopsecupd (start 06/Dec/2023 end 06/Jan/2024)

2023-12-06 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 04:45:20PM +0100, Job Snijders wrote:
> The author of draft-fiebig-grow-bgpopsecupd asked whether the
> GROW working group could consider adoption of their internet-draft.
> 
> This message is a request to the group for feedback on whether this
> internet-draft should be adopted.
> 
> Title: Updated BGP Operations and Security
> Abstract:
>   The Border Gateway Protocol (BGP) is the protocol almost exclusively
>   used in the Internet to exchange routing information between network
>   domains. Due to this central nature, it is important to understand the
>   security and reliability measures that can and should be deployed to
>   prevent accidental or intentional routing disturbances.
>   ... [abstract snipped for brevity] ...
> 
> This internet-draft aims to update RFC7454 / BCP 194.

Support, as one of the authors of 7454.

Gert Doering
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[GROW] Working Group Call for draft-msri-grow-bmp-bgp-rib-stats (start 06/Dec/2023 end 06/Jan/2024)

2023-12-06 Thread Job Snijders
Dear GROW,

The author of draft-msri-grow-bmp-bgp-rib-stats asked whether the
GROW working group could consider adoption of their internet-draft.

This message is a request to the group for feedback on whether this
internet-draft should be adopted.

Title: Definition For New BMP Statistics Type
Abstract:
  RFC 7854 defined different BMP statistics messages types to observe
  interesting events that occur on the router.  This document updates
  RFC 7854 by adding new statistics type. 

The Internet-Draft can be found here:
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-msri-grow-bmp-bgp-rib-stats-00.html

*** NOTE *** This draft has nothing other than BMP code point requests
for counters. If adoption fails, the authors can go off an request FCFS
instead.

Please share with the mailing list if you would like this work to be
adopted by GROW, are willing to review and/or otherwise contribute to
this draft!

WG Adoption call ends January 6th, 2024.

Kind regards,

Job / Chris
GROW co-chairs

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[GROW] Working Group Call for draft-fiebig-grow-bgpopsecupd (start 06/Dec/2023 end 06/Jan/2024)

2023-12-06 Thread Job Snijders
 Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 04:42:05PM +0100, Job Snijders wrote:
Dear GROW,

The author of draft-fiebig-grow-bgpopsecupd asked whether the
GROW working group could consider adoption of their internet-draft.

This message is a request to the group for feedback on whether this
internet-draft should be adopted.

Title: Updated BGP Operations and Security
Abstract:
  The Border Gateway Protocol (BGP) is the protocol almost exclusively
  used in the Internet to exchange routing information between network
  domains. Due to this central nature, it is important to understand the
  security and reliability measures that can and should be deployed to
  prevent accidental or intentional routing disturbances.
  ... [abstract snipped for brevity] ...

This internet-draft aims to update RFC7454 / BCP 194.

The Internet-Draft can be found here:
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-fiebig-grow-bgpopsecupd-00.html

Please share with the mailing list if you would like this work to be
adopted by GROW, are willing to review and/or otherwise contribute to
this draft!

WG Adoption call ends January 6th, 2024.

Kind regards,

Job / Chris
GROW co-chairs

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[GROW] Working Group Call for draft-pels-grow-yang-bgp-communities (start 06/Dec/2023 end 06/Jan/2024)

2023-12-06 Thread Job Snijders
Dear GROW,

The author of draft-pels-grow-yang-bgp-communities asked whether the
GROW working group could consider adoption of their internet-draft.

This message is a request to the group for feedback on whether this
internet-draft should be adopted.

Title: YANG Module for BGP Communities
Abstract:
  This document provides a YANG module for describing BGP communities.

The Internet-Draft can be found here:
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-pels-grow-yang-bgp-communities-00.html

Please share with the mailing list if you would like this work to be
adopted by GROW, are willing to review and/or otherwise contribute to
this draft!

WG Adoption call ends January 6th, 2024.

Kind regards,

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Re: [GROW] Working Group Call for Adoption draft-lucente-grow-bmp-rel (start 25/Oct/2023 end 08/Nov/2023)

2023-12-06 Thread Job Snijders
Dear all,

This document has been adopted by the Working Group.

Authors, please submit the document as 'draft-ietf-grow-bmp-rel-00'

Kind regards,

Job

On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 12:57:08AM +0200, Job Snijders wrote:
> Dear GROW,
> 
> The authors of draft-lucente-grow-bmp-rel asked whether GROW
> working group could consider adoption of the internet-draft.
> 
> This message is a request to the group for feedback on whether this
> internet-draft should be adopted.
> 
> Title: Logging of routing events in BGP Monitoring Protocol (BMP)
> Abstract:
>   The BGP Monitoring Protocol (BMP) does provision for BGP session event
>   logging (Peer Up, Peer Down), state synchronization (Route
>   Monitoring), debugging (Route Mirroring) and Statistics messages,
>   among the others. This document defines a new Route Event Logging
>   (REL) message type for BMP with the aim of covering use-cases with
>   affinity to alerting, reporting and on-change analysis.
> 
> The Internet-Draft can be found here:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lucente-grow-bmp-rel/
> 
> Please share with the mailing list if you would like this work to be
> adopted by GROW, are willing to review and/or otherwise contribute to
> this draft!
> 
> WG Adoption call ends November 8th, 2023.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Job / Chris
> GROW co-chairs

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