Re: [GROW] [WG ADOPTION]: draft-mcbride-grow-as-path-prepend-01 - ENDS 08/12/2020 (Aug 12)

2020-08-18 Thread Christopher Morrow
Howdy WG Folks,

It seems a bunch of folk would like to keep this conversation going as
an adopted document.
Could the authors please submit a renamed draft when they can?

thanks!
-chris
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On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 1:17 PM Christopher Morrow
 wrote:
>
> Howdy WG Folks!
> There's been significant chatter on-list about:
>   draft-mcbride-grow-as-path-prepend-01
>
> Abstract:
>   "AS_Path prepending provides a tool to manipulate the BGP AS_Path
>attribute through prepending multiple entries of an AS.  AS_Path
>prepend is used to deprioritize a route or alternate path.  By
>prepending the local ASN multiple times, ASes can make advertised AS
>paths appear artificially longer.  Excessive AS_Path prepending has
>caused routing issues in the internet.  This document provides
>guidance,to the internet community, with how best to utilize AS_Path
>prepend in order to avoid negatively affecting the internet."
>
> This work seems directly in the GROW wheelhouse, and it appears folk
> on-list agree. Let's decide with a WG Adoption call for this document
> and see if we should continue this work officially/etc.
>
> Please give it a read, and comment on adoption ideals here-in.
>
> thanks!
> -chris
> co-chair-persona

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Re: [GROW] [WG ADOPTION]: draft-mcbride-grow-as-path-prepend-01 - ENDS 08/12/2020 (Aug 12)

2020-08-03 Thread Alexander Azimov
I support adoption as WG item.

чт, 30 июл. 2020 г. в 09:13, Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez <
paag...@gmail.com>:

> +1
>
> On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 06:13, Brian Dickson 
> wrote:
>
>> Support adoption as a WG item. Willing to contribute text, reviews, etc.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 10:17 AM Christopher Morrow <
>> christopher.mor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Howdy WG Folks!
>>> There's been significant chatter on-list about:
>>>   draft-mcbride-grow-as-path-prepend-01
>>>
>>> Abstract:
>>>   "AS_Path prepending provides a tool to manipulate the BGP AS_Path
>>>attribute through prepending multiple entries of an AS.  AS_Path
>>>prepend is used to deprioritize a route or alternate path.  By
>>>prepending the local ASN multiple times, ASes can make advertised AS
>>>paths appear artificially longer.  Excessive AS_Path prepending has
>>>caused routing issues in the internet.  This document provides
>>>guidance,to the internet community, with how best to utilize AS_Path
>>>prepend in order to avoid negatively affecting the internet."
>>>
>>> This work seems directly in the GROW wheelhouse, and it appears folk
>>> on-list agree. Let's decide with a WG Adoption call for this document
>>> and see if we should continue this work officially/etc.
>>>
>>> Please give it a read, and comment on adoption ideals here-in.
>>>
>>> thanks!
>>> -chris
>>> co-chair-persona
>>>
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Re: [GROW] [WG ADOPTION]: draft-mcbride-grow-as-path-prepend-01 - ENDS 08/12/2020 (Aug 12)

2020-07-29 Thread Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
+1

On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 06:13, Brian Dickson 
wrote:

> Support adoption as a WG item. Willing to contribute text, reviews, etc.
>
> Brian
>
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 10:17 AM Christopher Morrow <
> christopher.mor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Howdy WG Folks!
>> There's been significant chatter on-list about:
>>   draft-mcbride-grow-as-path-prepend-01
>>
>> Abstract:
>>   "AS_Path prepending provides a tool to manipulate the BGP AS_Path
>>attribute through prepending multiple entries of an AS.  AS_Path
>>prepend is used to deprioritize a route or alternate path.  By
>>prepending the local ASN multiple times, ASes can make advertised AS
>>paths appear artificially longer.  Excessive AS_Path prepending has
>>caused routing issues in the internet.  This document provides
>>guidance,to the internet community, with how best to utilize AS_Path
>>prepend in order to avoid negatively affecting the internet."
>>
>> This work seems directly in the GROW wheelhouse, and it appears folk
>> on-list agree. Let's decide with a WG Adoption call for this document
>> and see if we should continue this work officially/etc.
>>
>> Please give it a read, and comment on adoption ideals here-in.
>>
>> thanks!
>> -chris
>> co-chair-persona
>>
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Re: [GROW] [WG ADOPTION]: draft-mcbride-grow-as-path-prepend-01 - ENDS 08/12/2020 (Aug 12)

2020-07-29 Thread Brian Dickson
Support adoption as a WG item. Willing to contribute text, reviews, etc.

Brian

On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 10:17 AM Christopher Morrow <
christopher.mor...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Howdy WG Folks!
> There's been significant chatter on-list about:
>   draft-mcbride-grow-as-path-prepend-01
>
> Abstract:
>   "AS_Path prepending provides a tool to manipulate the BGP AS_Path
>attribute through prepending multiple entries of an AS.  AS_Path
>prepend is used to deprioritize a route or alternate path.  By
>prepending the local ASN multiple times, ASes can make advertised AS
>paths appear artificially longer.  Excessive AS_Path prepending has
>caused routing issues in the internet.  This document provides
>guidance,to the internet community, with how best to utilize AS_Path
>prepend in order to avoid negatively affecting the internet."
>
> This work seems directly in the GROW wheelhouse, and it appears folk
> on-list agree. Let's decide with a WG Adoption call for this document
> and see if we should continue this work officially/etc.
>
> Please give it a read, and comment on adoption ideals here-in.
>
> thanks!
> -chris
> co-chair-persona
>
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Re: [GROW] [WG ADOPTION]: draft-mcbride-grow-as-path-prepend-01 - ENDS 08/12/2020 (Aug 12)

2020-07-29 Thread Randy Bush
needs work and what better place than a working group?

randy

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Re: [GROW] [WG ADOPTION]: draft-mcbride-grow-as-path-prepend-01 - ENDS 08/12/2020 (Aug 12)

2020-07-29 Thread Martijn Schmidt
I support adoption and also left a few comments in a separate thread.

Best regards,
Martijn

From: GROW  on behalf of Jakob Heitz (jheitz) 

Sent: 29 July 2020 23:27
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grow@ietf.org grow@ietf.org 
Subject: Re: [GROW] [WG ADOPTION]: draft-mcbride-grow-as-path-prepend-01 - ENDS 
08/12/2020 (Aug 12)

I support adoption. Already gave comments in a separate thread.

Regards,
Jakob.

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Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 10:17 AM
To: grow-...@tools.ietf.org;  ; 
grow@ietf.org grow@ietf.org 
Subject: [GROW] [WG ADOPTION]: draft-mcbride-grow-as-path-prepend-01 - ENDS 
08/12/2020 (Aug 12)

Howdy WG Folks!
There's been significant chatter on-list about:
  draft-mcbride-grow-as-path-prepend-01

Abstract:
  "AS_Path prepending provides a tool to manipulate the BGP AS_Path
   attribute through prepending multiple entries of an AS.  AS_Path
   prepend is used to deprioritize a route or alternate path.  By
   prepending the local ASN multiple times, ASes can make advertised AS
   paths appear artificially longer.  Excessive AS_Path prepending has
   caused routing issues in the internet.  This document provides
   guidance,to the internet community, with how best to utilize AS_Path
   prepend in order to avoid negatively affecting the internet."

This work seems directly in the GROW wheelhouse, and it appears folk
on-list agree. Let's decide with a WG Adoption call for this document
and see if we should continue this work officially/etc.

Please give it a read, and comment on adoption ideals here-in.

thanks!
-chris
co-chair-persona

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Re: [GROW] [WG ADOPTION]: draft-mcbride-grow-as-path-prepend-01 - ENDS 08/12/2020 (Aug 12)

2020-07-29 Thread Jakob Heitz (jheitz)
I support adoption. Already gave comments in a separate thread.

Regards,
Jakob.

-Original Message-
From: GROW  On Behalf Of Christopher Morrow
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 10:17 AM
To: grow-...@tools.ietf.org;  ; 
grow@ietf.org grow@ietf.org 
Subject: [GROW] [WG ADOPTION]: draft-mcbride-grow-as-path-prepend-01 - ENDS 
08/12/2020 (Aug 12)

Howdy WG Folks!
There's been significant chatter on-list about:
  draft-mcbride-grow-as-path-prepend-01

Abstract:
  "AS_Path prepending provides a tool to manipulate the BGP AS_Path
   attribute through prepending multiple entries of an AS.  AS_Path
   prepend is used to deprioritize a route or alternate path.  By
   prepending the local ASN multiple times, ASes can make advertised AS
   paths appear artificially longer.  Excessive AS_Path prepending has
   caused routing issues in the internet.  This document provides
   guidance,to the internet community, with how best to utilize AS_Path
   prepend in order to avoid negatively affecting the internet."

This work seems directly in the GROW wheelhouse, and it appears folk
on-list agree. Let's decide with a WG Adoption call for this document
and see if we should continue this work officially/etc.

Please give it a read, and comment on adoption ideals here-in.

thanks!
-chris
co-chair-persona

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Re: [GROW] [WG ADOPTION]: draft-mcbride-grow-as-path-prepend-01 - ENDS 08/12/2020 (Aug 12)

2020-07-29 Thread Job Snijders
I support adoption too

(no hats)

On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 05:19:07PM +, Christopher Morrow wrote:
> + the real slim-shady.
> 
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 5:17 PM Christopher Morrow
>  wrote:
> >
> > Howdy WG Folks!
> > There's been significant chatter on-list about:
> >   draft-mcbride-grow-as-path-prepend-01
> >
> > Abstract:
> >   "AS_Path prepending provides a tool to manipulate the BGP AS_Path
> >attribute through prepending multiple entries of an AS.  AS_Path
> >prepend is used to deprioritize a route or alternate path.  By
> >prepending the local ASN multiple times, ASes can make advertised AS
> >paths appear artificially longer.  Excessive AS_Path prepending has
> >caused routing issues in the internet.  This document provides
> >guidance,to the internet community, with how best to utilize AS_Path
> >prepend in order to avoid negatively affecting the internet."
> >
> > This work seems directly in the GROW wheelhouse, and it appears folk
> > on-list agree. Let's decide with a WG Adoption call for this document
> > and see if we should continue this work officially/etc.
> >
> > Please give it a read, and comment on adoption ideals here-in.
> >
> > thanks!
> > -chris
> > co-chair-persona

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Re: [GROW] [WG ADOPTION]: draft-mcbride-grow-as-path-prepend-01 - ENDS 08/12/2020 (Aug 12)

2020-07-29 Thread Nick Hilliard

Christopher Morrow wrote on 29/07/2020 18:17:

This work seems directly in the GROW wheelhouse, and it appears folk
on-list agree. Let's decide with a WG Adoption call for this document
and see if we should continue this work officially/etc.


sounds good for adoption.

Nick

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Re: [GROW] [WG ADOPTION]: draft-mcbride-grow-as-path-prepend-01 - ENDS 08/12/2020 (Aug 12)

2020-07-29 Thread Ben Maddison
Hi all,

On 07/29, Christopher Morrow wrote:
> Howdy WG Folks!
> There's been significant chatter on-list about:
>   draft-mcbride-grow-as-path-prepend-01
> 
> Abstract:
>   "AS_Path prepending provides a tool to manipulate the BGP AS_Path
>attribute through prepending multiple entries of an AS.  AS_Path
>prepend is used to deprioritize a route or alternate path.  By
>prepending the local ASN multiple times, ASes can make advertised AS
>paths appear artificially longer.  Excessive AS_Path prepending has
>caused routing issues in the internet.  This document provides
>guidance,to the internet community, with how best to utilize AS_Path
>prepend in order to avoid negatively affecting the internet."
> 
> This work seems directly in the GROW wheelhouse, and it appears folk
> on-list agree. Let's decide with a WG Adoption call for this document
> and see if we should continue this work officially/etc.
> 
Agreed. I support adoption.

Cheers,

Ben

> Please give it a read, and comment on adoption ideals here-in.
> 
> thanks!
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Re: [GROW] [WG ADOPTION]: draft-mcbride-grow-as-path-prepend-01 - ENDS 08/12/2020 (Aug 12)

2020-07-29 Thread Robert Raszuk
Support

Thx,
r.

On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 7:17 PM Christopher Morrow <
christopher.mor...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Howdy WG Folks!
> There's been significant chatter on-list about:
>   draft-mcbride-grow-as-path-prepend-01
>
> Abstract:
>   "AS_Path prepending provides a tool to manipulate the BGP AS_Path
>attribute through prepending multiple entries of an AS.  AS_Path
>prepend is used to deprioritize a route or alternate path.  By
>prepending the local ASN multiple times, ASes can make advertised AS
>paths appear artificially longer.  Excessive AS_Path prepending has
>caused routing issues in the internet.  This document provides
>guidance,to the internet community, with how best to utilize AS_Path
>prepend in order to avoid negatively affecting the internet."
>
> This work seems directly in the GROW wheelhouse, and it appears folk
> on-list agree. Let's decide with a WG Adoption call for this document
> and see if we should continue this work officially/etc.
>
> Please give it a read, and comment on adoption ideals here-in.
>
> thanks!
> -chris
> co-chair-persona
>
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Re: [GROW] [WG ADOPTION]: draft-mcbride-grow-as-path-prepend-01 - ENDS 08/12/2020 (Aug 12)

2020-07-29 Thread Christopher Morrow
+ the real slim-shady.

On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 5:17 PM Christopher Morrow
 wrote:
>
> Howdy WG Folks!
> There's been significant chatter on-list about:
>   draft-mcbride-grow-as-path-prepend-01
>
> Abstract:
>   "AS_Path prepending provides a tool to manipulate the BGP AS_Path
>attribute through prepending multiple entries of an AS.  AS_Path
>prepend is used to deprioritize a route or alternate path.  By
>prepending the local ASN multiple times, ASes can make advertised AS
>paths appear artificially longer.  Excessive AS_Path prepending has
>caused routing issues in the internet.  This document provides
>guidance,to the internet community, with how best to utilize AS_Path
>prepend in order to avoid negatively affecting the internet."
>
> This work seems directly in the GROW wheelhouse, and it appears folk
> on-list agree. Let's decide with a WG Adoption call for this document
> and see if we should continue this work officially/etc.
>
> Please give it a read, and comment on adoption ideals here-in.
>
> thanks!
> -chris
> co-chair-persona

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