Re: looking for a program....

2012-02-17 Thread Gary Kline
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 07:37:17PM -0700, Michael Torrie wrote:
> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 19:37:17 -0700
> From: Michael Torrie 
> Subject: Re: looking for a program
> To: gtk-app-devel-list@gnome.org
> 
> On 02/16/2012 12:50 PM, Gary Kline wrote:
> >> I'm quite sure that what you're looking for is for some screen reader &
> >> speech synthesis solution, like Orca [1], isn't it?
> >> If not, or Orca doesn't fit your needs, you can deal with speech-dispatcher
> >> in a easy way from your application. Controlling what to say, pitch, rate,
> >> language, etc.
> 
> Orca is not what you are looking for.  Orca is a screen reader to assist
> the blind and seeing-impaired.
> 
> It is not there to act as a voice for a person who cannot speak, though
> I suppose it could be used as such, but that is not its primary purpose.
> 
> 
> > i spent the entire day looking for what WAS in ubuntu 10.04
> > and 10.10, but must have changed with 11.*.  it has a config 
> > panel when the program began that let you set things such as
> > you mention: pitch, rate, volume, ... but this program is no
> > longer available.
> > 
> > I installed a bunch of what i thought might be helpful
> > tools, and now  when i run VBC, I get the following
> > warnings:
> 
> The warnings are probably harmless to your VBC program, though they
> indicate something isn't quite right with the screen reader stuff
> installed.  Hopefully others can shed light on how to fix these messages
> that will probably come up when trying to run any GTK program.  You
> might try logging out and back in, or rebooting.  It could be that the
> daemons required to implement the screen reader just aren't loaded yet.


synaptic was also broke--i tried to install the missing
packages that way (and thru apt-get).  to solve the synaptic
issue took quite awshile and involved pasting a string of
commands that only a ubuntu genius could grok.  after that,
tho, my VBC  ran just fine.

nutshell: [??]

...and now back to my options quandry!

 
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Re: looking for a program....

2012-02-16 Thread Michael Torrie
On 02/16/2012 12:50 PM, Gary Kline wrote:
>> I'm quite sure that what you're looking for is for some screen reader &
>> speech synthesis solution, like Orca [1], isn't it?
>> If not, or Orca doesn't fit your needs, you can deal with speech-dispatcher
>> in a easy way from your application. Controlling what to say, pitch, rate,
>> language, etc.

Orca is not what you are looking for.  Orca is a screen reader to assist
the blind and seeing-impaired.

It is not there to act as a voice for a person who cannot speak, though
I suppose it could be used as such, but that is not its primary purpose.


>   i spent the entire day looking for what WAS in ubuntu 10.04
>   and 10.10, but must have changed with 11.*.  it has a config 
>   panel when the program began that let you set things such as
>   you mention: pitch, rate, volume, ... but this program is no
>   longer available.
> 
>   I installed a bunch of what i thought might be helpful
>   tools, and now  when i run VBC, I get the following
>   warnings:

The warnings are probably harmless to your VBC program, though they
indicate something isn't quite right with the screen reader stuff
installed.  Hopefully others can shed light on how to fix these messages
that will probably come up when trying to run any GTK program.  You
might try logging out and back in, or rebooting.  It could be that the
daemons required to implement the screen reader just aren't loaded yet.
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Re: looking for a program....

2012-02-16 Thread Gary Kline
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:24:06AM +0100, Javier Hern?ndez Ant?nez wrote:
> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 10:24:06 +0100
> From: Javier Hern?ndez Ant?nez 
> Subject: Re: looking for a program
> To: Gary Kline 
> Cc: GTK Devel List 
> 
> 2012/2/15 Gary Kline 
> 
> > i'm looking for a gui program that spoke text and that had options
> > for speed, pitch, spacing-between-words and more [[espeak?] right
> > on the front panel.
> >
> 
> I'm wondering, if you're looking for some screen reader & speech synthesis,
> solution, isn
> 
> 
> >
> > i'm looking for something like this panel to let the user select
> > wshat options he wants his computer voiced to follow.  this "Option"
> > string on my menubar is one of the things i knew i had to offer--to
> > build into my VBC progrram.  i've been hunting all over for about an
> > hour.  can't find it.
> >
> > if any of you know what program this is, please clue me in.
> >
> 
> 
> I'm quite sure that what you're looking for is for some screen reader &
> speech synthesis solution, like Orca [1], isn't it?
> If not, or Orca doesn't fit your needs, you can deal with speech-dispatcher
> in a easy way from your application. Controlling what to say, pitch, rate,
> language, etc.
> 


i spent the entire day looking for what WAS in ubuntu 10.04
and 10.10, but must have changed with 11.*.  it has a config 
panel when the program began that let you set things such as
you mention: pitch, rate, volume, ... but this program is no
longer available.

I installed a bunch of what i thought might be helpful
tools, and now  when i run VBC, I get the following
warnings:





** (gvim:22552): WARNING **: Couldn't register with accessibility bus: Did not
receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a
reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout
expired, or the network connection was broken.

(gvim:22552): Gnome-WARNING **: Accessibility: failed to find module
'libgail-gnome' which is needed to make this application accessible

(gvim:22552): Gnome-WARNING **: Accessibility: failed to find module 'libgail'
which is needed to make this application accessible

** (gvim:22552): WARNING **: Couldn't register with accessibility bus: Did not
receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a
reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout
expired, or the network connection was broken.


AFAIK, I did not install any accessibility packages.  Same
with libgail.  do you know what's going on? or anybody else
onlist?  also, i didn't do anything to gvim---note the
"(gvim 22552):" above.

gary



> 
> Regards!
> 
> [1]: http://live.gnome.org/Orca
> 
> -- 
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> 

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Re: looking for a program....

2012-02-16 Thread Javier Hernández Antúnez
2012/2/15 Gary Kline 

> i'm looking for a gui program that spoke text and that had options
> for speed, pitch, spacing-between-words and more [[espeak?] right
> on the front panel.
>

I'm wondering, if you're looking for some screen reader & speech synthesis,
solution, isn


>
> i'm looking for something like this panel to let the user select
> wshat options he wants his computer voiced to follow.  this "Option"
> string on my menubar is one of the things i knew i had to offer--to
> build into my VBC progrram.  i've been hunting all over for about an
> hour.  can't find it.
>
> if any of you know what program this is, please clue me in.
>


I'm quite sure that what you're looking for is for some screen reader &
speech synthesis solution, like Orca [1], isn't it?
If not, or Orca doesn't fit your needs, you can deal with speech-dispatcher
in a easy way from your application. Controlling what to say, pitch, rate,
language, etc.


Regards!

[1]: http://live.gnome.org/Orca

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looking for a program....

2012-02-15 Thread Gary Kline
i'm looking for a gui program that spoke text and that had options
for speed, pitch, spacing-between-words and more [[espeak?] right
on the front panel.

i'm looking for something like this panel to let the user select
wshat options he wants his computer voiced to follow.  this "Option"
string on my menubar is one of the things i knew i had to offer--to
build into my VBC progrram.  i've been hunting all over for about an
hour.  can't find it.

if any of you know what program this is, please clue me in.

gary



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