double click

2009-04-20 Thread Chuck Crisler
Can anyone help with some tips on constructing XEvents to signal a mouse
double-click? Down-Up-Down-Up (4 XEvents) without a MouseMove?

TIA,
Chuck Crisler

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Pass more widgets as gpointer.

2009-04-20 Thread Jens Hansen
Hello All.

I'm quite new to C, but have done some gtk programming in perl.
I've been looking for answers on the web, and in various tutorials, without
any luck.
My question is how to pass more widgets as a gpointer, to a callback
function. (in C )

For instance if a OK button, has to read the state of three other
widgets...

In perl I would make an array of the widgets, and then pass the ref as the
data argument to the callback. I cannot grasp how to do something like that
in C.

An example snippet would be really helpfull.

Thx

Jens
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Re: Pass more widgets as gpointer.

2009-04-20 Thread Tadej Borovšak
Hello.

The common solution to this problem is to create a structure
containing all of the widgets you may need in callbacks and than pass
pointer to it around.

Some sample code can be found here:
http://gtkforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=2913#8098

Hope this helps a bit.

Bye

2009/4/20 Jens Hansen jensh...@gmail.com:
 Hello All.

 I'm quite new to C, but have done some gtk programming in perl.
 I've been looking for answers on the web, and in various tutorials, without
 any luck.
 My question is how to pass more widgets as a gpointer, to a callback
 function. (in C )

 For instance if a OK button, has to read the state of three other
 widgets...

 In perl I would make an array of the widgets, and then pass the ref as the
 data argument to the callback. I cannot grasp how to do something like that
 in C.

 An example snippet would be really helpfull.

 Thx

 Jens
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Re: Pass more widgets as gpointer.

2009-04-20 Thread Vlad Volodin
Hello, Jens

The other way is to make your widgets global. Especially, me? I use
GOjects, and always pass self object. For example, I inherit  main
window object from GtkWindow and later in widgets definition pass
itself to callback. Also, you can use g_object_set_data for storing
some useful pointers.

Good luck

2009/4/20 Jens Hansen jensh...@gmail.com:
 Hello All.

 I'm quite new to C, but have done some gtk programming in perl.
 I've been looking for answers on the web, and in various tutorials, without
 any luck.
 My question is how to pass more widgets as a gpointer, to a callback
 function. (in C )

 For instance if a OK button, has to read the state of three other
 widgets...

 In perl I would make an array of the widgets, and then pass the ref as the
 data argument to the callback. I cannot grasp how to do something like that
 in C.

 An example snippet would be really helpfull.

 Thx

 Jens
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Re: glib dbus bindings notes

2009-04-20 Thread David Zeuthen
On Tue, 2009-03-03 at 13:19 -0500, David Zeuthen wrote:
 Regarding your other comments, I largely agree with them and this mail
 would be too long if I replied to all of them.
 
 So, to sum up, the main suggestions you are making are
 
  - Rework low-level bits of EggDBus so it's like dbus-hippo-helper
 
  - Don't try to hide libdbus in the low-level bits
(but do hide it from the high-level bits)
  - make sure the all gunk needed for the C/GObject binding is separate
from the low-level stuff (a separate library even?)

Just as a follow up, I've started working on this, see

 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=579571

for details and am hoping the low-level bits (i.e. not the object
mapping) can land in the next GLib release.

Once the low-level details are on master, I will start doing the
C/GObject object mapping - this is probably going to take longer to bake
so maybe it won't make the next GLib release, maybe it will, depends.

David



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Re: GLib plans for the next cycle

2009-04-20 Thread Allin Cottrell
On Sun, 19 Apr 2009, David Zeuthen wrote:

 On Sun, 2009-04-19 at 20:05 -0400, Allin Cottrell wrote:
  I've recently been trying to purge my GTK app of deprecated
  stuff, and I tried replacing gnome_url_show() with
  gtk_show_uri().  No go; on invoking gtk_show_uri() I get
  operation not supported.  After some googling, it appears
  that one must have gvfs installed.  OK, I download, build and
  install gvfs.  But it doesn't help.  Gvfs as built on my
  system (without configure or compilation errors) apparently
  can't handle URIs...
 
  This sort of thing is new, and IMO thoroughly obnoxious: up till
  now, one could depend on GTK functions working provided one had
  successfully installed the known stack of dependencies, which were
  checked at compile time for GTK and friends.  Now we have GTK
  functions that may or may not work depending on unspecified
  dependencies...

 This is _supposed_ to work, there's already an unpleasant amount of work
 in GIO to ensure that things work when things like GVfs (which requires
 a modern flavor of Linux or UNIX) is not available.

 Now, GIO may not work as well as when GVfs installed (e.g. automounting
 storage devices won't work unless the OS actively assists with playing
 games like modifying /etc/fstab) but basics like launching a program for
 URIs _should_ work - e.g. http, mailto, file:///path/to/some.jpg file or
 other well-known URIs schemes.

 I could be wrong, but just briefly looking at the code it looks like
 there is no default implementation of GDesktopAppInfoLookup in GIO,
 there's only one in GVfs  (that looks up stuff in GConf under
 in /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/scheme) so it's no surprise things
 don't work if GVfs is not installed.

Yes, that's right.  As it's currently coded gtk_show_uri is bound
to fail if GVfs is not present.  But more than that: it'll fail
even if GVfs _is_ present (as it is now on my system), if GVfs
does not in turn incorporate GConf support.  I thought I'd read
that GConf was supposed to be deprecated, or on the way there?

 I think it would be reasonable if GIO at least handled file://
 and maybe also http:// and mailto:// (the former by using the
 MIME, the latter two by include a search path of well-known
 applications like epiphany firefox, evolution and thunderbird)
 and also the URI schemes used to launch Yelp.

Agreed.

 You should probably file a bug about this.

OK, will do.

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Re: GLib plans for the next cycle

2009-04-20 Thread Alexander Larsson
On Mon, 2009-04-20 at 10:43 -0400, Allin Cottrell wrote:
 On Sun, 19 Apr 2009, David Zeuthen wrote:

  I could be wrong, but just briefly looking at the code it looks like
  there is no default implementation of GDesktopAppInfoLookup in GIO,
  there's only one in GVfs  (that looks up stuff in GConf under
  in /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/scheme) so it's no surprise things
  don't work if GVfs is not installed.
 
 Yes, that's right.  As it's currently coded gtk_show_uri is bound
 to fail if GVfs is not present.  But more than that: it'll fail
 even if GVfs _is_ present (as it is now on my system), if GVfs
 does not in turn incorporate GConf support.  I thought I'd read
 that GConf was supposed to be deprecated, or on the way there?

I don't understand what you propose? There is no in-use non-gconf
setting for mapping default handlers for entire uri scheme. So, we
lookup none which mean we then fall back to the per-mime default.

Its entierly unreasonable to have a file:// uri handler, as that would
open *all* types of local files, overriding your per-mime specs.


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Re: GLib plans for the next cycle

2009-04-20 Thread Christian Dywan
Am Mon, 20 Apr 2009 17:00:41 +0200
schrieb Alexander Larsson al...@redhat.com:

 On Mon, 2009-04-20 at 10:43 -0400, Allin Cottrell wrote:
  On Sun, 19 Apr 2009, David Zeuthen wrote:
 
   I could be wrong, but just briefly looking at the code it looks
   like there is no default implementation of GDesktopAppInfoLookup
   in GIO, there's only one in GVfs  (that looks up stuff in GConf
   under in /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/scheme) so it's no
   surprise things don't work if GVfs is not installed.
  
  Yes, that's right.  As it's currently coded gtk_show_uri is bound
  to fail if GVfs is not present.  But more than that: it'll fail
  even if GVfs _is_ present (as it is now on my system), if GVfs
  does not in turn incorporate GConf support.  I thought I'd read
  that GConf was supposed to be deprecated, or on the way there?
 
 I don't understand what you propose? There is no in-use non-gconf
 setting for mapping default handlers for entire uri scheme. So, we
 lookup none which mean we then fall back to the per-mime default.
 
 Its entierly unreasonable to have a file:// uri handler, as that would
 open *all* types of local files, overriding your per-mime specs.

What about using xdg-open if GVfs is not available OR if gconf is
not available? That's a tiny script that can be easily installed
anywhere, even on less modern boxes.

Just my 2 pfennig,
Christian
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Re: GLib plans for the next cycle

2009-04-20 Thread David Zeuthen
On Mon, 2009-04-20 at 18:31 +0200, Christian Dywan wrote:
 What about using xdg-open if GVfs is not available OR if gconf is
 not available? That's a tiny script that can be easily installed
 anywhere, even on less modern boxes.

That would give you a nice circular dependency if xdg-open(1) is ever
ported to use GIO [1] which is not at all unlikely...

 David

[1] : under GNOME, xdg-open(1) uses gnome-open(1) which AFAICT uses
gnome-vfs2...

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Re: GLib plans for the next cycle

2009-04-20 Thread Cosimo Cecchi
On Mon, 2009-04-20 at 12:45 -0400, David Zeuthen wrote:

 That would give you a nice circular dependency if xdg-open(1) is ever
 ported to use GIO [1] which is not at all unlikely...
 
  David
 
 [1] : under GNOME, xdg-open(1) uses gnome-open(1) which AFAICT uses
 gnome-vfs2...

gnome-open already uses GIO since 2.24 [1] so yes, we would have that
loop already. OTOH, as libgnome depends on GConf, if you have gnome-open
available, you're likely to also have GConf already installed.

[1]
http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/libgnome/trunk/libgnome/gnome-open.c?view=markup

Ciao,

Cosimo

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Re: GLib plans for the next cycle

2009-04-20 Thread Alexander Larsson
On Mon, 2009-04-20 at 12:29 -0400, Allin Cottrell wrote:
 On Mon, 20 Apr 2009, Alexander Larsson wrote:
 
  On Mon, 2009-04-20 at 10:43 -0400, Allin Cottrell wrote:
   As it's currently coded gtk_show_uri is bound
   to fail if GVfs is not present.  But more than that: it'll fail
   even if GVfs _is_ present (as it is now on my system), if GVfs
   does not in turn incorporate GConf support.  I thought I'd read
   that GConf was supposed to be deprecated, or on the way there?
 
  I don't understand what you propose? There is no in-use non-gconf
  setting for mapping default handlers for entire uri scheme. So, we
  lookup none which mean we then fall back to the per-mime default.
 
 The uri I'm testing with gtk_show_uri is a simple http reference.
 So far as I can tell the attempt to handle it grinds to a halt in
 g_file_query_info with iface-query_info = NULL.  gnome_url_show
 has no problem getting firefox to open it.

Well, if you don't have gvfs installed then you will not be able to
either look up the uri handler for the http uri scheme in gconf, nor
will you be able to query_info for the mime type of the file on the http
server. It should not grind to a halt though, can you explain in more
detail what happens?

For the gnome_url_show() case this calls the old gnome_vfs_url_show()
which reads the http scheme default from gconf. This is the same
behaviour as gtk_show_url would have if you had gvfs installed with
gconf support.

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Re: GLib plans for the next cycle

2009-04-20 Thread Allin Cottrell
On Mon, 20 Apr 2009, Alexander Larsson wrote:

 On Mon, 2009-04-20 at 12:29 -0400, Allin Cottrell wrote:
  On Mon, 20 Apr 2009, Alexander Larsson wrote:
 
   On Mon, 2009-04-20 at 10:43 -0400, Allin Cottrell wrote:
As it's currently coded gtk_show_uri is bound
to fail if GVfs is not present.  But more than that: it'll fail
even if GVfs _is_ present (as it is now on my system), if GVfs
does not in turn incorporate GConf support.  I thought I'd read
that GConf was supposed to be deprecated, or on the way there?
  
   I don't understand what you propose? There is no in-use non-gconf
   setting for mapping default handlers for entire uri scheme. So, we
   lookup none which mean we then fall back to the per-mime default.
 
  The uri I'm testing with gtk_show_uri is a simple http reference.
  So far as I can tell the attempt to handle it grinds to a halt in
  g_file_query_info with iface-query_info = NULL.  gnome_url_show
  has no problem getting firefox to open it.

 Well, if you don't have gvfs installed then you will not be able to
 either look up the uri handler for the http uri scheme in gconf, nor
 will you be able to query_info for the mime type of the file on the http
 server. It should not grind to a halt though, can you explain in more
 detail what happens?

I put some debugging statements into some of the gio files, and
here's what I'm getting when I try to open the http reference:

g_io_module_load_module: loaded
  '/opt/gtk2/lib/gio/modules/libgvfsdbus.so'
g_io_module_load_module: loaded
  '/opt/gtk2/lib/gio/modules/libgiofam.so'
g_io_extension_point_lookup: 'gio-local-file-monitor' -
  gio-local-file-monitor
g_io_extension_point_lookup: 'gio-local-directory-monitor' -
  gio-local-directory-monitor
g_io_module_load_module: loaded
  '/opt/gtk2/lib/gio/modules/libgioremote-volume-monitor.so'
g_io_extension_point_lookup: 'gio-local-directory-monitor' -
  gio-local-directory-monitor
g_io_extension_point_lookup: 'gio-local-file-monitor' -
  gio-local-file-monitor
g_io_extension_point_lookup: 'gio-native-volume-monitor' -
  gio-native-volume-monitor
g_io_extension_point_lookup: 'gio-vfs' - gio-vfs
g_io_extension_point_lookup: 'gio-vfs' - gio-vfs
g_io_extension_point_lookup: 'gio-desktop-app-info-lookup' -
  gio-desktop-app-info-lookup
g_io_extension_point_lookup: ep = 0x9e92e18
g_file_query_info: iface-query_info = NULL
g_file_query_default_handler gave NULL for
  'http://gretl.sourceforge.net'

And an error message Operation not supported.

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Re: GLib plans for the next cycle

2009-04-20 Thread Alexander Larsson
On Mon, 2009-04-20 at 14:36 -0400, Allin Cottrell wrote:
 On Mon, 20 Apr 2009, Alexander Larsson wrote:
 
  On Mon, 2009-04-20 at 12:29 -0400, Allin Cottrell wrote:
   On Mon, 20 Apr 2009, Alexander Larsson wrote:
  
On Mon, 2009-04-20 at 10:43 -0400, Allin Cottrell wrote:
 As it's currently coded gtk_show_uri is bound
 to fail if GVfs is not present.  But more than that: it'll fail
 even if GVfs _is_ present (as it is now on my system), if GVfs
 does not in turn incorporate GConf support.  I thought I'd read
 that GConf was supposed to be deprecated, or on the way there?
   
I don't understand what you propose? There is no in-use non-gconf
setting for mapping default handlers for entire uri scheme. So, we
lookup none which mean we then fall back to the per-mime default.
  
   The uri I'm testing with gtk_show_uri is a simple http reference.
   So far as I can tell the attempt to handle it grinds to a halt in
   g_file_query_info with iface-query_info = NULL.  gnome_url_show
   has no problem getting firefox to open it.
 
  Well, if you don't have gvfs installed then you will not be able to
  either look up the uri handler for the http uri scheme in gconf, nor
  will you be able to query_info for the mime type of the file on the http
  server. It should not grind to a halt though, can you explain in more
  detail what happens?
 
 I put some debugging statements into some of the gio files, and
 here's what I'm getting when I try to open the http reference:

 And an error message Operation not supported.

Thats not grind to halt really, but ok. What do you have built?
It seems to load a libgvfsdbus.so, so gvfs seems to be there, but with
no gconf module? Do you have a session dbus running?

If you have gvfs installed but not with gconf what should happen is that
the query_info on the uri should sniff the mimetype and launch app
depending on that.

Does gvfs stuff work at all in your installation? For instance, what
does gvfs-info http://gretl.sourceforge.net; print? for me it does:

gvfs-info http://gretl.sourceforge.net
display name: /
edit name: /
type: unknown
size: 14276
attributes:
  etag::value: 37c4-467d4ae02f640
  standard::display-name: /
  standard::edit-name: /
  standard::content-type: text/html
  standard::size: 14276
  id::filesystem: 
type=http,uri=http%3A%2F%2Fgretl.sourceforge.net,__mount_prefix=%2F
  time::modified: 1240063057
  time::modified-usec: 0

which should lanuch whatever app is registered for text/html.

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Re: GLib plans for the next cycle

2009-04-20 Thread Allin Cottrell
On Mon, 20 Apr 2009, Alexander Larsson wrote:

 00, Allin Cottrell wrote:
  On Mon, 20 Apr 2009, Alexander Larsson wrote:
 
   On Mon, 2009-04-20 at 12:29 -0400, Allin Cottrell wrote:
On Mon, 20 Apr 2009, Alexander Larsson wrote:
   
 On Mon, 2009-04-20 at 10:43 -0400, Allin Cottrell wrote:
  As it's currently coded gtk_show_uri is bound
  to fail if GVfs is not present.  But more than that: it'll fail
  even if GVfs _is_ present (as it is now on my system), if GVfs
  does not in turn incorporate GConf support.  I thought I'd read
  that GConf was supposed to be deprecated, or on the way there?

 I don't understand what you propose? There is no in-use non-gconf
 setting for mapping default handlers for entire uri scheme. So, we
 lookup none which mean we then fall back to the per-mime default.
   
The uri I'm testing with gtk_show_uri is a simple http reference.
So far as I can tell the attempt to handle it grinds to a halt in
g_file_query_info with iface-query_info = NULL.  gnome_url_show
has no problem getting firefox to open it.
  
   Well, if you don't have gvfs installed then you will not be able to
   either look up the uri handler for the http uri scheme in gconf, nor
   will you be able to query_info for the mime type of the file on the http
   server. It should not grind to a halt though, can you explain in more
   detail what happens?
 
  I put some debugging statements into some of the gio files, and
  here's what I'm getting when I try to open the http reference:

  And an error message Operation not supported.

 Thats not grind to halt really, but ok. What do you have built?
 It seems to load a libgvfsdbus.so, so gvfs seems to be there, but with
 no gconf module? Do you have a session dbus running?

That's right; no gconf module in gvfs but dbus-daemon --system is
running.

 If you have gvfs installed but not with gconf what should happen is that
 the query_info on the uri should sniff the mimetype and launch app
 depending on that.

 Does gvfs stuff work at all in your installation? For instance, what
 does gvfs-info http://gretl.sourceforge.net; print?

It prints the same messages as I gave earlier, culminating in

g_file_query_info: iface-query_info = NULL
Error getting info: Operation not supported

But, e.g., gvfs-info /usr/local/bin/mplayer works fine.

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Re: GLib plans for the next cycle

2009-04-20 Thread Allin Cottrell
On Mon, 20 Apr 2009, Alexander Larsson wrote:

 gvfs needs a session bus, not a system bus, so you're falling back to a
 non-gvfs system. Thus no http support.

OK, I suppose I can get this working on my own system, but my main
point is: why does GTK include a function such as gtk_show_uri
which depends on a big stack of unspecified stuff?  At least this
should be mentioned in the documentation.  As I said before, up
till very recently one has been able to rely on GTK functions
just working so long as the compile-time dependencies are
satisfied.

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Re: GLib plans for the next cycle

2009-04-20 Thread Allin Cottrell
On Sun, 19 Apr 2009, Havoc Pennington wrote:

 I think my arguments are compelling. If someone else thinks
 differently, they can say so, and explain their reasoning...

 The bottom line is that dbus has an MIT/X11-equivalent license, with
 the addition of a *weaker* patent clause than LGPL/GPL already have.
 The license was written by a lawyer and is perfectly sane.

Sane and written by a lawyer are surely orthogonal to
desirability from the point of view of free software.

Havoc wrote in his blog:

I believe if you distributed D-Bus under GPL or LGPL, you would
be making a patent grant of any patents affecting D-Bus. The AFL
patent clause does not require you to make a patent grant; it
still allows you to sue. You just have to stop distributing D-Bus
while you do it. With the GPL or LGPL, you can never distribute in
the first place, without giving up the right to sue at all. Unless
I'm missing something, there's no way the AFL patent clause can be
a problem unless LGPL or GPL would be a problem in the same
context.

IANAL, but... Hypothesis: Monster Corp distributes D-BUS under
AFL, while believing that DB in fact violates patents held by
Monster Corp.  MC then sues users of DB.  MC can no longer
distribute DB under AFL, but they don't care!  They have succeeded
in causing trouble.  But as Havoc says, if Monster Corp had
distributed DB under *GPL they would have effectively made a
patent grant and given up the right to sue, making this scenario
impossible.

OK, maybe there's no Monster Corp associated with D-BUS right now,
but we know there _are_ such monsters around.  This seems to me a
_major_ reason to see *GPL as superior to AFL from the p.o.v. of
free software.

Allin Cottrell

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Re: GLib plans for the next cycle

2009-04-20 Thread Havoc Pennington
Hi,

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Allin Cottrell cottr...@wfu.edu wrote:
 On Sun, 19 Apr 2009, Havoc Pennington wrote:
 The license was written by a lawyer and is perfectly sane.

 Sane and written by a lawyer are surely orthogonal to
 desirability from the point of view of free software.

The contrast is with things like the Artistic 1.0 license, which is a
legal mess written by a non-lawyer. That is not desirable because the
license ends up vague (from a legal perspective) and difficult to
enforce in court.

AFL was written by an open source advocate (and lawyer) with input
from a lot of other open source people.

The point is, it's not some off-the-wall license made up over beers.
It was written by someone competent to do so and vetted by quite a few
others. It is an approved license on opensource.org.

 IANAL, but... Hypothesis: Monster Corp distributes D-BUS under
 AFL, while believing that DB in fact violates patents held by
 Monster Corp.  MC then sues users of DB.  MC can no longer
 distribute DB under AFL, but they don't care!  They have succeeded
 in causing trouble.  But as Havoc says, if Monster Corp had
 distributed DB under *GPL they would have effectively made a
 patent grant and given up the right to sue, making this scenario
 impossible.

Yes, you're right that the AFL imposes fewer restrictions than GPL,
just as any other MIT/X11 type of license imposes less restrictions
than GPL.

 OK, maybe there's no Monster Corp associated with D-BUS right now,
 but we know there _are_ such monsters around.  This seems to me a
 _major_ reason to see *GPL as superior to AFL from the p.o.v. of
 free software.

The discussion is not about whether AFL (or MIT/X11 type licenses in
general) are superior to GPL-type licenses philosophically. The
discussion is about whether there's a licensing problem with libdbus
that keeps GLib and GTK+ from relying on it. Last I checked, GTK+ at
least linked to quite a bit of code under MIT/X11 sort of licenses,
such as libX11.

You aren't saying anything here that doesn't also apply to libX11.

Havoc
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