Re: GTK+3 win32/64 build environment
On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 03:37:41AM +0200, tarn...@tarnyko.net wrote: I will upload all scripts to Git as soon as I get my account approved. What steps did you take? I did not get any voucher request for 'bugzilla.gnome.org'. -- Regards, Olav ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GtkAppChooser custom command patch
On Mon, Apr 08, 2013 at 01:53:37PM +0200, tarn...@tarnyko.net wrote: I won't debate this again, points have already been widely made before (Bernhard does have some here). Personally, what I regret the most is having spent time writing a useless patch. It does imply something for my past and future-planned contributions, too. It is good that you're trying to help, and I can understand you think a custom command is helpful. But what you really need is a desktop file. A desktop file ensures that things work correctly (correct mime types, startup notification, etc). There are programs which already allow you to create such desktop files, e.g. alacarte (though it had some issues). Note that some time will always be wasted. E.g. Mattias probably looks at various patches which have bugs in them. Pretty much wasted time because he wouldn't have to spend time if people did exactly what he visioned. Or in other words: accepting patches because you spend time on the patch is not how things are or should be done. -- Regards, Olav ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+3 win32/64 build environment
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:05:07AM +0200, tarn...@tarnyko.net wrote: Marc-André Lureau writes: It would be better if you could check in your scripts in a repository, so one could more easily study and eventually contribute to your effort. All the binaries should be fetched or build from the source (and verified). It should be easy and safe to reproduce and modify the build, by anyone at anytime. Agreed. What's GNOME preferred repo system, Git ? Should I get a account on git.gnome.org ? Suggest to do so. Follow https://live.gnome.org/NewAccounts. Note that we want your real name. As 'module voucher' select 'bugzilla.gnome.org' and I'll vouch for you. Anyone on git.gnome.org can create repositories. -- Regards, Olav ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: [PATCH gtk+] wayland: Remove unneeded semicolons.
Please attach it to a bug on https://bugzilla.gnome.org/. -- Regards, Olav ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: notifications in gtk
On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 10:23:40AM -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote:
A new api
[..]
Portability considerations
- Most of the GtkNotification api can probably be implemented against
org.freedesktop.Notifications (except the fire-and-forget aspects),
and this is what I think we should start out with
- The api that we are presenting here is fairly similar to OS X'
NSNotification api, and should be easily implementable on top of it
- After looking for notification apis on windows, we are confident
that this api proposal is confident with the win8 notification
guidelines and api ('toast'...). It will not be a very good fit for
traditional icon+balloon messages.
Would a Qt/KDE application be able to show notifications as well? Would
this require freedesktop.org work, or is the intention to keep this
limited to GNOME shell implementation?
Wondering if you also looked at iOS and Android.
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Re: notifications in gtk
On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 04:39:26PM +0100, Olav Vitters wrote: Wondering if you also looked at iOS and Android. Ignore this, you obviously did. -- Regards, Olav ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ meetup at Guadec
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 09:22:51AM +1000, Andrew Cowie wrote: On Sat, 2012-07-28 at 15:30 +0200, Matthias Clasen wrote: - We want to discuss major API proposals or wishes (eg new widgets) on this mailing list, instead of just in bugzilla. That's terrific. While I wouldn't say that bugzilla not in the public record or anything like that, the fact that it is blocked from search indexes makes it hard to stay abreast of relevant discussion even if you _are_ subscribed to bugmail. Convince chpe that it is ok to have his comments indexed and I'll gladly have Bugzilla indexed. -- Regards, Olav ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GtkNotebook action widgets
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 09:16:31PM +, Matthew Bucknall wrote: Is it possible to make a GtkNotebook show its action widgets when it contains no tabs? If not, I'll file a bug because it seems silly to effectively prevent having 'Add Tab' type buttons in the action areas. Suggest to just file a bug. At most, it'll be WONTFIX'ed or DUPLICATE'd. -- Regards, Olav ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: DTDs and other fun
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 09:43:12PM +0100, Murray Cumming wrote: It happens sometimes, and it usually causes crashes. It's nice to avoid it even if it's rare. Could this somehow be automatically be checked by make distcheck? And I mean automatic that it is somehow added by gnome-autogen.sh so you don't have to specifically add the test yourself. -- Regards, Olav ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Fwd: i18n of app menus
How can those app menus be translated? Is anyone on the gnome-i18n mailing list? -- Regards, Olav ---BeginMessage--- Hi guys, I'm sure many of you have heard of the new 3.4 feature, application menu [1]. There is one problem with it from the i18n perspective: app menus are not translatable. Affected apps seems to be epiphany, gnome-contacts, but not gnome-boxes and gnome-documents. The issue with the former is that they use an .ui file which is not a standard Glade file format, see [2]. I've tried to mark these strings as translatable in numerous ways, but I can't make them appear in PO files. So my question is: does anyone have any idea how to fix it? Maybe I should file a bug against GTK+? [1] https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointThree/Features/ApplicationMenu [2] http://git.gnome.org/browse/epiphany/plain/data/ui/epiphany-application-menu.ui -- Piotr Drąg http://raven.fedorapeople.org/ ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i...@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n ---End Message--- ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: Bug 660761
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 10:28:55AM +0200, Kean Johnston wrote: Please can glib devs give https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=660761 a little love? Its been a month and a half since I posted the last patch and there has been no traction on it. Suggestion: Best to always copy/paste the summary. No clue what it is about, too lazy to click as likely not for me (not a dev) :P -- Regards, Olav ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: circular dependency between glib and pkg-config
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 11:52:26PM -0700, stu...@zulazon.com wrote: I think it should be possible for someone unfamiliar with either package to build glib from source after reading INSTALL, before installing pkg-config. Either that, or to install pkg-config before installing glib I guess you figured out all the steps now right? If so: patch welcome :-) -- Regards, Olav ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
moderation discussion
On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 01:19:45PM +0200, Michal Suchanek wrote: On 8 September 2011 23:42, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 10:38:02AM -0700, John Ralls wrote: And the fact that I'm here shows that I agree. Shawn was here (until Olaf kicked him off this morning) for the same reason. I'm quite Shawn kicked himself off. If you are so concerned about politeness and non-controversy of this list then kick Emmanuele too. Or are only members of Gnome foundation board allowed to be rude on this list? :p I don't really care about politeness or non-controversy. I more follow the ideas of https://live.gnome.org/CodeOfConduct. To expand on politeness or non-controversy: With politeness or non-controversy you might get a list where you cannot say that (just saying something) OS X support is terrible because this might not be considered polite or might be controversial. Or similar, you might get meta-discussions if something could be stated. I enjoy good discussions and people disagreeing. Regarding code of conduct: I think it is unavoidable to have an not so nice email every once in a while. Perhaps from someone well-known, perhaps from someone unknown. What I find more important is not that one email, but the reaction to that email. A general attitude to still be respectful and if you notice some unacceptable behaviour, try to go for a solution which dampens it instead of further aggravating (sending private emails, saying you're getting the impression it seems to get personal, etc). Give some ability for the other person to say oh, I didn't mean it / sorry. Regarding special things for members: I don't always read every email in every thread, or at the same time. But although I do have the special password to take a technical solution and maybe in this thread I gave the impression that well-knowns can do anything they want and anyone else has 0 leeway. I try to be more detail I usually consider: - is this person generally like this in their contributions / conversations - are they brand new - how to best dampen it (private email, public email, moderation bit, unsubscribe, ban) In this specific case: I noticed Emanuelle apologized for the tone being interpreted as attacking by the time I read the thread, so I consider it over. Didn't see the same for the other email, and didn't recognize the name at all, high chance for things getting out of hand. Note: this already is getting way offtopic (not about gtk development)... so I don't want to go into it too much further on this mailing list. -- Regards, Olav ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: Fwd: Plans for GTK+ Bundles for win32 and win64?
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 12:09:55PM +0200, dieterv wrote: On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 10:54:16 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: can you explain what you require in terms of infrastructure? For the continuing maintenance of GTK+ 2.24.X only (binaries that are supposed to be completely compatible with what's already on ftp.gnome.org) : - a place to store the built binaries and GTK+ bundle used to be http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/binaries/win32/ linked to from http://www.gtk.org/download/win32.php the newer binaries I've built following Tor's scripts and guidance are living here: https://github.com/dieterv/legacynativebuilds/downloads I've given you the required permissions to SSH to master.gnome.org. Everything is in /ftp/pub/GNOME/binaries, etc. Recommend using sftp to upload stuff (note: this procedure is only for binaries). For binaries: Just upload, then run signal-ftp-sync afterwards to update ftp.gnome.org. So for the record, my offer still stands. Including gtk.org's download page maintenance. I'd even propose to put links there to the Open Build System to make sure people are aware of a good alternative too. I'm sure Martyn will be able to help you, given that he maintains the gtk.org website. Good to know, thanks! Note: There was a discussion a while back to move gtk.org stuff to GNOME infrastructure. Asked some questions but didn't hear back. Website is on git.gnome.org though. -- Regards, Olav ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK and OSX: a call to sanity
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 05:28:21PM -0700, John Ralls wrote: The rest of Gtk-OSX isn't Gtk. It's a build system using jhbuild with its own modulesets, a python script for making application bundles, and a few other bits and pieces, including gtk-quartz-engine, a Cocoa HIT theme engine which I haven't touched since Richard Hult left it to me except to ensure that the github and git.gnome.org repos are the same. I don't even know if it works with Gtk3. The moduleset could just be in jhbuild? What's the cost of keeping those bits on Sourceforge vs. Gnome.org? ISTM it will cost me a lot of time and effort to move them into gnome.org with no real benefit to anyone except Emmanuele who can't seem to get an SF account. (Emmanuele, if you really want to sort that out, email me directly and I'll see what I can do to help.) I have a sourceforge account and I don't see any benefit of using / monitoring anything other than *.gnome.org. Though of course, I am not a developer nor OS-X user, so it won't matter for you :P It will take some time to move things over, but at least it shows interest into OS-X. And as was said, gnome developers use gnome infrastructure. -- Regards, Olav ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK and OSX: a call to sanity
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 12:34:59PM -0400, Shawn Bakhtiar wrote: Emmanuel I understand you care about Jeff, and though I believe the initial message could be worded differently, I have to say: * pot calling the kettle black regarding tone on the mailing list * you're now banned from gtk-devel-list -- Regards, Olav ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK and OSX: a call to sanity
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 10:38:02AM -0700, John Ralls wrote: And the fact that I'm here shows that I agree. Shawn was here (until Olaf kicked him off this morning) for the same reason. I'm quite Shawn kicked himself off. -- Regards, Olav ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: www.gtk.org now updated but no news!
On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 06:37:15PM -0500, Shawn Amundson wrote: On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Martyn Russell mar...@lanedo.com wrote: I would like that too, but in retrospect, I found out that Tim Janik (ironically) has root access to the machine too - so it's less of an issue now. A few people have root, with the intent that if I become unreachable, there are others that can help out. (For example, if I go on vacation, which is where I was the past few days...) I have no idea what's required to make this happen, I suspect moving dns entries and creating a project in the gnomeweb-wml git repo? Existing git repositories can stay. Moving gtk.org would also require moving gimp.org and maintaining that as well. It would involve not only the website but also FTP, mail, DNS, etc. It is a package deal. And I'd probably have to keep root access in the process... would the GNOME sysadmin team want another sysadmin? FTP: We use ftp.gnome.org which is a mirror. I'd suggest using that. mail: postfix and so on; we do not have a nice UI for 'gimp.org', only something for 'gnome.org'. gimp.org would be separate, probably using Puppet (pretty easy) website: we have stuff in place to automatically update websites from a git repository. Most is on RHEL6, which has PHP 5.3. DNS+whois: easy, we've moved loads of domains to the same whois register and into our DNS server. Note: GNOME infrastructure uses RHEL (except for a bit of Ubuntu,Debian,Fedora). We're still getting a few new servers in to replace the existing ones. But manual packages + working outside of 'Puppet' is frowned upon. As to if we want another sysadmin: send an email to gnome-sysad...@gnome.org.. always a team decision. Why do you want to keep root access btw? Just wondering what you normally use it for. Does anyone have information about the political reasons as to why it was never moved before? I am missing the history on that. We should probably only talk about 10+ year old history like that over beer. :) It's a different mix of people now, so I'm sure we can create our own political problems if we need to. :) I haven't been around that long and I don't drink beer :P -- Regards, Olav ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: Trimming gdk-pixbuf repository
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:09:11AM +0100, Alberto Ruiz wrote: In any case, what worries me the most is bandwidth usage (though I don't have any numbers), it seems weird to me that we are moving away from tar.gz/bz2 to save bandwidth and still we waste so much bandwidth cloning gtk3/2/gdk-pixbuf I agree, but we still need a Git expert. I can also just do it and put the old repository in the archive section, but current status is 'unsure' regarding implications. If someone[1] says that they're pretty confident that it doesn't have any drawbacks, then I can proceed. -- Regards, Olav [1] or someone finds someone ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: Trimming gdk-pixbuf repository
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 09:06:32PM +, Alberto Ruiz wrote: I am looking for comments from git experts on any of the operations I'm doing and how feasible would be to rewrite the git.gnome.org repository. The resulting repository can be found in my github site[0]. Any git experts who can look at this again? https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2011-March/msg00066.html -- Regards, Olav ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: [OT] n...@naver.com
On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 08:30:33PM -0400, Paul Davis wrote: can we remove n...@naver.com from the list? everytime i send a message to gtk-devel, his mail server refuses my message and sends me back a message telling me this. i don't care, and i think its rude. does this happen to anyone else? I'll do so if I get a message from him ;) -- Regards, Olav ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
gtk+ DOAP file
Is it ok if I create a doap file in the gtk+ repository? MAINTAINERS file isn't really needed. I wouldn't remove that, but doap file allows me to specify a some other things like mailing lists, homepage, description and so on. -- Regards, Olav ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: Using gobject-intro. with something else than Gnome.
On Sun, Mar 06, 2011 at 05:43:02PM +0100, Stef Bon wrote: I'm trying to build the latest version of gobject-introspection. I've got it with git. It's complaining there is no gnome-autogen found. Well that's right, but do I have to install these first It should be optional. Use a tarball of gobject-introspection if you do not want to download gnome-autogen. If you get it from git then you'll need gnome-autogen. -- Regards, Olav ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: migration document missing
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 12:14:16AM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: Well, I think the easiest thing is to explain at the top of each version, like I did for 3. Though now that library can parallel display the two I need to update it to say GTK+ 2 is at /gtk and GTK3 is at /gtk3. Perhaps easiest to have the latest version (gtk3) be 'gtk' and the previous version 'gtk2'? -- Regards, Olav ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: New rule
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 10:40:29AM +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: On Fri, 2010-10-22 at 10:38 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: On 21 October 2010 17:44, Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net wrote: devhelp won't compile because WebKitGTK wasn't ported. and: dh-assistant.c: In function 'assistant_key_press_event_cb': dh-assistant.c:49:30: error: 'GDK_Escape' undeclared (first use in this function) That's hardly a blocker, I guess you can commit that fix yourself :) I've fixed a few of those. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=632872 and see the commit logs -- Regards, Olav ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: Gtk-OSX
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 09:56:12AM -0700, John Ralls wrote: It's now on Sourceforge because when Richard decided with his partner wind up Imendio and to withdraw from Gtk+, he asked on his forum for someone to take over maintaining the build system. I bit, and after some probing discovered that he'd not been successful in getting anyone to take over *any* of the components; he had some hope that one or more of his former Imendio employees who were still involved with Gtk+ would take over maintaining the Gtk+ parts. I quickly discovered that it would take some time and a lot of work to get a project started at Gnome.org. It took a week at Sourceforge, and only that long because I did a hostile takeover of a moribund project that was a fork of Gtk 1 whose name I wanted. If you want a Git account so you can commit to Gtk+, it should be pretty easy. Three steps basically: 1. For the person requesting it: follow http://live.gnome.org/NewAccounts 2. A gtk+ maintainer: approving the Git account 3. Accounts team: setting it up This can all be done very quickly. If for some reason there is a delay in above process, feel free to send me a message. If you think it is better to have other resources (mailing list), just file a bug at Bugzilla, for details see http://live.gnome.org/NewListRequest. Best to get started with the Git account first. Above and other infrastructure procedures are documented at: http://live.gnome.org/Infrastructure Note that I don't see a Gtk+ OSX backend as any different from Gtk+. IMO you could use a branch in gtk+ or commit directly. However, I'm not a maintainer, talk to them. If you need anything Bugzilla related, file a bug in the bugzilla.gnome.org product. Need permissions? Contact Bugsquad. In all above cases (except Gtk+ maintainership ;), if you need assistance, feel free to contact me. -- Regards, Olav (GNOME sysadmin, bugzilla maintainer) ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: disabling GTK+ features to shrink GTK+
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 12:10:58PM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Yeah, I get it, but here's the point: it isn't nice when a maintainer says unlikely without giving even one reason, leaving the rest of us to guess (EG, that's most likely the reason). Can we stop this discussion now or take it off list please? Thanks. -- Regards, Olav (moderator) ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: glib uses wrong prefix for base-2 units
On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 08:31:03PM +0200, Daniel Elstner wrote: Arguing that the exact value isn't important, but then insisting on the 1024 convention just seems silly to me. Either it is important or it isn't. In those situation where the difference matters, you need to know the factor. Up to the maintainers to decide on this. Suggest people stop with this bike shed and wait until the maintainers answer. And with suggest I mean that the thread is now moderated and I'll discard any non-maintainer replies. -- Regards, Olav ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Upgrade of gettext on git.gnome.org (was Re: Moving GLib and GTK+ to git)
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 12:07:30PM +0200, Alexander Larsson wrote: I've got a local branch with the rebased client-side-windows work. However, I am unable to push it to git.gnome.org due to the pre-commit hooks: The following translation (.po) file appears to be invalid. (When updating branch 'client-side-windows'.) po/af.po The results of the validation follow. Please correct the errors on the line numbers mentioned and try to push again. stdin:90: keyword msgctxt unknown stdin:90:8: parse error . Checking http://git.gnome.org/cgit/gitadmin-bin/tree/pre-receive-check-po we have: # gettext-0.14.6 on git.gnome.org isn't new enough to handle # features such as msgctx # dash_c=-c dash_c= So a gettext update should be done. CC'ed gnome-sysadmin. -- Regards, Olav ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: High-performance Priority Queue / Heap for glib
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 01:56:05PM +0100, Maik Zumstrull wrote: Worked on fifth-or-so attempt, must have been a temporary server glitch. You likely have a (transparent) proxy with multiple IP addresses. Don't limit the login to your IP address when logging in. -- Regards, Olav ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: Status update for client-side-windows
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 11:33:19AM +0100, Alexander Larsson wrote: Things are looking very nice now. There are very few testcase failures, and with the last fixes to the native window code we're able to run firefox with no obvious problems. First gio/gvfs, now this :-) -- Regards, Olav ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: [Fwd: gtk website content]
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:38:15AM +0100, Martyn Russell wrote: Now it is hosted on library.gnome.org I would guess it is generated automatically from the source + docbook? I don't actually know. Anyone care to fill us in, we have someone ready and willing to update it :) Library uses tarballs. When you do a install-module, library.gnome.org updates after a while (5 min cron delay). Might not always take the latest version though (uses the r-t modulesets IIRC, something like micro being ok, but won't take newer major.. ask frepd if you want specifics). -- Regards, Olav ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GLib 2.16.2 released
On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 03:48:10PM +0200, Arnaud Charlet wrote: Blogged! http://blogs.gnome.org/gtk/2008/04/02/glib-2162-released/ Well, the tarballs are still not available as of today though :-) http://download.gnome.org/sources/glib/2.16/ lists 2.16.1 as the latest, and no 2.16.2 in sight. What do you mean? This was fixed last night (although some files took a bit longer).. would've been earlier if someone mentioned the install-module error message to a sysadmin. -- Regards, Olav ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: Request for API/ABI breaks in glib/gio
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 06:19:52PM +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: Note that, technically, the release team doesn't have any control power on glib. Nice to ask, though :-) Addition: Please ensure all affected modules are fixed before the tarballs are made (Monday 23:59 UTC at the latest) + docs (etc) are updated accordingly. -- Regards, Olav ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 05:26:33PM +0100, Murray Cumming wrote: This link will have to be kept up to date, if this is the link to use, it would be better to have a more permanent link that doesn't change with new versions of GNOME (which we used to have). Theoretically, http://www.gnome.org/start/unstable/Bindings should do that but it doesn't seem to work for sub-pages. That should work in ~15min. (gnomeweb-wml/trunk/www.gnome.org/htaccess) -- Regards, Olav ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 02:30:14PM +, Martyn Russell wrote: http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/download-linux.html * outdated versions You disagree? It might not make sense to list unsupported versions here I agree, but we should definitely list older versions. No, I mean that it doesn't show e.g. 2.12. Don't mind about older versions. http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/documentation.html * under API, perhaps s/Library/Component/ or something? I prefer Library, since they are libraries. Shouldn't Library be used for the collection of API docs? IMO gtk+ has e.g. an API reference. The combination of all that stuff could be called a library. * links to: http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/documentation-old.html with a mention of gtk 1.2 docs. I'd assume to get API docs, but those aren't there. No, it isn't supported any longer. But documentation.html says 'Although we recommend the GTK2 platform, we keep the GTK 1.2 Documentation around for those who need it.', so I expect API docs. Maybe reword previous sentence? Perhaps mention it is included in the 1.2 tarball? http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/mailing-lists.html * perhaps add 'language-bindings' ? Hmm, wasn't sure about this, since it is more GNOME language bindings. I can add it though. Wasn't sure (description says GNOME and GTK+). Leaving to you to decide ;-) http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/development.html * links to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for donation things, shouldn't that rather use some private email address? IIRC there is a better one. perhaps also mention that although it is the GNOME foundation, the money will be dedicated to GTK+ (there is such an arrangement right?) I added some more about how it is for GNOME, etc. What is the alternate email address then? Anyone know? I guess fundraising at gnome org, taken from http://www.gnome.org/friends/ cc'ing vuntz to confirm. -- Regards, Olav ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 11:37:47PM +, Martyn Russell wrote: The final draft of the new GTK+ web site has been complete with help from Andreas Nilsson and are now available here: http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/ The plan is to upload these pages on Tuesday sometime. If anyone has any issues to take up before then, let me know. Looks great. Tried to find very small things to note (nothing important): http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/index.html * LGPL link is the v3 one http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/features.html * no n810 * 'Partially Supported' image looks like a negative (not supported) * cross platform should include BSD etc as well http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/overview.html * perhaps mention LGPL version? * languages could link to languages overview page * community section talks about 2.10 while 2.12 is out * community has 'These people are listed below.', don't see them * community: have a link to the release announcement http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/download-linux.html * outdated versions * really linux? http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/documentation.html * under API, perhaps s/Library/Component/ or something? * links to: http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/documentation-old.html with a mention of gtk 1.2 docs. I'd assume to get API docs, but those aren't there. http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/documentation-old.html * links to http://imendio.com/tutorial1.2/, which seems to be down or something. http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/mailing-lists.html * perhaps add 'language-bindings' ? http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/development.html * links to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for donation things, shouldn't that rather use some private email address? IIRC there is a better one. perhaps also mention that although it is the GNOME foundation, the money will be dedicated to GTK+ (there is such an arrangement right?) -- Regards, Olav ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: GTK 1.2]
FYI. A bit amazing. -- Regards, Olav ---BeginMessage--- Hi, It seems that the GTK 1.2 documentation has been deprecated from your site. This is a bit of a problem for those of us that are still having to use it. It would be extremely handy to have an archive section, maybe of tarballs of old documentation if not the live documentation. Thanks -- Michael Simms - CEO, Tux Games ___ gnome-web-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-web-list ---End Message--- ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: dedicated machine for gtk.org website project
On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 09:25:16AM +, Martyn Russell wrote: I must confess, I have quite limited knowledge when it comes to our hosting services for GNOME and GTK+ (i.e. where machines are hosted physically and who looks after them, etc - is this information available somewhere?). Perhaps some sysadmins could comment here too. Probably known but in case not (from gnome-sysadmin POV): GTK does most things for themselves. Machines, website, DNS, mail, etc etc. The only slight relation is the SVN repository for the website and its post-commit hook to trigger an update of the site. -- Regards, Olav ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: Ok to redirect http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/ to GNOME Library?
On Sun, Sep 02, 2007 at 06:13:20PM +0200, Murray Cumming wrote: So could you now please redirect http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/ done. I'd then like to remove this directory from svn: http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/web-devel-2/trunk/content/doc/API/ It won't be removed from the server, but that is probably ok. -- Regards, Olav ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: Ok to redirect http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/ to GNOME Library?
On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 06:38:29PM +0200, Murray Cumming wrote: On Sun, 2007-08-19 at 22:27 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: On Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 10:31:52PM +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: If nobody objects within a week I'll make this change. As GNOME Library is now good enough to redirect the existing pages. I've added the following redirects to developer.gnome.org: RedirectMatch permanent ^/doc/API/2.0/at-spi/(.*)$ http://library.gnome.org/devel/at-spi-cspi/unstable/$1 RedirectMatch permanent ^/doc/API/2.0/gail/(.*)$ http://library.gnome.org/devel/gail-libgail-util/unstable/$1 RedirectMatch permanent ^/doc/API/2.0/ORBit/(.*)$ http://library.gnome.org/devel/ORBit2/unstable/$1 RedirectMatch permanent ^/doc/API/2.0/libgsf/(.*)$ http://library.gnome.org/devel/gsf/unstable/$1 RedirectMatch permanent ^/doc/API/2.0/([^/]+)/(.*)$ http://library.gnome.org/devel/$1/unstable/$2 Some documentation had different names and are correctly redirected. The rest uses a generic redirect. As soon as Frederic adds more documentation to libgo, I'll redirect the overview page as well (http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/). What extra documentation is needed, by the way? Everything on the page: Some copy/pasting from a chatlog: | http://www.gnome.org/~mathieu/libart/libart.html -- copyright 2001, wtf? is a link now | libxml + libxslt point to elsewhere, not sure if have since been added as links | gstreamer as well also a link | do we have libgda? no idea | and of course gtkmm on libgo -- Regards, Olav ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: Ok to redirect http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/ to GNOME Library?
On Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 10:31:52PM +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: If nobody objects within a week I'll make this change. As GNOME Library is now good enough to redirect the existing pages. I've added the following redirects to developer.gnome.org: RedirectMatch permanent ^/doc/API/2.0/at-spi/(.*)$ http://library.gnome.org/devel/at-spi-cspi/unstable/$1 RedirectMatch permanent ^/doc/API/2.0/gail/(.*)$ http://library.gnome.org/devel/gail-libgail-util/unstable/$1 RedirectMatch permanent ^/doc/API/2.0/ORBit/(.*)$ http://library.gnome.org/devel/ORBit2/unstable/$1 RedirectMatch permanent ^/doc/API/2.0/libgsf/(.*)$ http://library.gnome.org/devel/gsf/unstable/$1 RedirectMatch permanent ^/doc/API/2.0/([^/]+)/(.*)$ http://library.gnome.org/devel/$1/unstable/$2 Some documentation had different names and are correctly redirected. The rest uses a generic redirect. As soon as Frederic adds more documentation to libgo, I'll redirect the overview page as well (http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/). -- Regards, Olav ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Ok to redirect http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/ to GNOME Library?
GTK+ is the main user of the developer API reference with links from: http://www.gtk.org/api/ I want to redirect: http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/ to: http://library.gnome.org/developer/ See for instance the GTK+ API reference on: http://library.gnome.org/developers/gtk/2.11/ Note: GNOME Library currently finds new tarballs every night. At one point this will start after install-module runs (low priority right now). If nobody objects within a week I'll make this change. -- Regards, Olav ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ maintenance
On Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 01:08:10AM +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: It'd be useful to know how many more people are needed to have things working more smoothly. Let's talk about full-time people: would 2 people be enough? Or do we need much more than 2, like 8 full-time developers? This is the kind of information that will help us convince companies to put more manpower into GTK+. Some comparison... http://www.trolltech.com/company Trolltech is a software company with two product lines: Qt and Qtopia. We currently have 200 employees working at offices worldwide. This includes a lot of other things (you only want Qt devs), but still... 200 vs 2 / 8? -- Regards, Olav ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: Mail from bugzilla
On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 08:01:31PM -0700, Mike Emmel wrote:
I just reported a bug on the directfb backend and bugzilla did not send me
mail.
Not sure if its because I was the one that reported it or I'm not
getting mail for all directb flagged bugs.
IIRC by default it doesn't send mail for bugs you create/modify.
vitit http://bugzilla.gnome.org/userprefs.cgi, email section and enable
it ('The change was made by me').
--
Regards,
Olav
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