Re: text entry color problem
hi... i did like it...i am using gtk 1.2 pMf is undeclared...what it is ?? thanx in advance.. > > > > > Hi, > we use > > gtk_widget_modify_base( GTK_WIDGET(pMf->textW), GTK_STATE_NORMAL, > color); > bernd > -- > Bernd Demian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CSC Ploenzke > > ___ > gtk-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list > > ___ gtk-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list
Re: text entry color problem....
Am Mit, 2002-08-21 um 08.12 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> hi...
>
> i want to change the white background of text entry,
> if i change the background color of it then only outline of this
> widget becomes colored...if i change foreground color of it then only text
> in this gets colored...so how the white background can be changed??
> please help if anybody has tried it...
>i have written the code like it...
>
> gdk_color_parse ("yellow", &color);
> rc_style = gtk_rc_style_new ();
> rc_style->bg[GTK_STATE_NORMAL] = color;
> rc_style->fg[GTK_STATE_NORMAL]=color;
> rc_style->color_flags[GTK_STATE_NORMAL] |= GTK_RC_BG;
> rc_style->color_flags[GTK_STATE_NORMAL] |=GTK_RC_FG;
> gtk_widget_modify_style (entry, rc_style);
>
> thanx in advance..
>
>
Hi,
we use
gtk_widget_modify_base( GTK_WIDGET(pMf->textW), GTK_STATE_NORMAL,
color);
bernd
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text entry color problem....
hi...
i want to change the white background of text entry,
if i change the background color of it then only outline of this
widget becomes colored...if i change foreground color of it then only text
in this gets colored...so how the white background can be changed??
please help if anybody has tried it...
i have written the code like it...
gdk_color_parse ("yellow", &color);
rc_style = gtk_rc_style_new ();
rc_style->bg[GTK_STATE_NORMAL] = color;
rc_style->fg[GTK_STATE_NORMAL]=color;
rc_style->color_flags[GTK_STATE_NORMAL] |= GTK_RC_BG;
rc_style->color_flags[GTK_STATE_NORMAL] |=GTK_RC_FG;
gtk_widget_modify_style (entry, rc_style);
thanx in advance..
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entry color
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Re: glib-2.0.6
Hi,
Personally I do the following instructions to compile and install glib-2.0.6
on IRIX.
1. install GNU gettext and libiconv to /usr/local
(libdir is /usr/local/lib32)
2. set LD_LIBRARY_PATH
(because rld may complain that there is no -lintl and -liconv)
$ setenv LD_LIBRARY_PATH "/usr/local/lib32:${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}"
3. run configure and gmake like this
$ cd glib-2.0.6
$ env CPPFLAGS='-I/usr/local/include' \
LDFLAGS='-L/usr/local/lib32' \
./configure --prefix=/usr/local/gtk \
--libdir=/usr/local/gtk/lib32 \
--with-libiconv=gnu
$ gmake
4. install
$ su
$ setenv LD_LIBRARY_PATH "/usr/local/lib32:${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}"
$ gmake install
It works well.
Regards,
--Naofumi
At Tue, 20 Aug 2002 15:21:09 +0200,
Nadir T. Mrabet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I am trying to compile glib-2.0.6 on a SGI O2 R1 under IRIX 6.3.
> I use for that :
> setenv CFLAGS -O2 ./configure.
> pkg-config is installed, as is GNU gettext.
>
> The 'configure' outcome is fine till it stops at the following message error
> signaling the lack of gettext support, although it is installed.
>
> -./configure output
>
>...
>
> checking for LC_MESSAGES... yes
> checking libintl.h usability... yes
> checking libintl.h presence... yes
> checking for libintl.h... yes
> checking for dgettext in libc... no
> checking for bindtextdomain in -lintl... no
> checking if -liconv is needed to use gettext...
> checking for dcgettext in -lintl... no
> configure: error:
> *** You must have either have gettext support in your C library, or use the
> *** GNU gettext library. (http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/gettext.html
>
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problem reading a non-english file
The following pice (obviously it has other widgets, but I think they aren't relevant) of code works right with an english file, but when the file has caracters as "ñ" fails sayin the error (gtklilo:11289): Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtktextbuffer.c: line 532 (gtk_text_buffer_insert_at_cursor): assertion `text != NULL' failed GtkWidget *view_en; GIOChannel *manpage_en; GtkTextBuffer *buffer_en; view_en = gtk_text_view_new(); buffer_en = gtk_text_view_get_buffer (GTK_TEXT_VIEW (view_en)); g_io_channel_read_to_end(manpage_en, &cadena_en, NULL, NULL); gtk_text_buffer_insert_at_cursor(buffer_en, cadena_en,-1); -- The chains are broken and the door is open wide Our eyes adjusting to the light that was denied And the voices ringing out now Sing of freedom And bring a sense of wonder http://www.es.debian.org/intro/about.es.html signature.asc Description: Esta parte del mensaje esta firmada digitalmente
Trivial problem with gtk-pixbuf and copy area ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi All, I'm a new suscriber on the list, from Toulouse (France) :-) and i begin learned gtk some years ago. I convert a app for use of gdk-pixbuf instead of imlib and I don't understand how to render an area of a pixbuf into an another pixbuf, with transparent regions... I try gdk_pixbuf_copy_area, without success. gdk_pixbuf_composite make the job, but it's very slow... So I look for gdk_pixbuf_render_to_drawable_alpha but with a pixbuf as destination. I think I don't understand or miss something essential and so need a little help for my app... Thanks, - -- A+ jmh PS : Sorry for my poor english (i was a bad student in the past, and now i work for embedded software :-) ... ) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9YsWFYilIC5+/QnYRAhZNAJ0R0AyTDKmBfErMvaHiX1awrBExhACgll1v jH5u+TFL2FUfjZ/ha2984z8= =HGrI -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ gtk-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list
Re: GtkComboBox: How to be notified of selection
On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, John Cupitt wrote: > Lars Clausen wrote: >> On 02 Aug 2002, Lars Clausen wrote: >> >>>I'm using a GtkComboBox in Dia for zoom selection. I can't quite get it >>>to behave the way I'd like. It ought to be that when the user selects >>>an item from the drop-down list (making the drop-down disappear), the >>>zoom amount should be updated. However, I haven't found a signal that >>>will tell me that the user made his or her final selection. >>>"select-child" and "selection-changed" from the GtkList is called while >>>the mouse is dragged over the items. "unmap", "hide" and "unrealize" >>>don't get called. I don't want the user to have to press Enter after >>>selecting from the menu, that's all. What should I do? >> >> >> In the end, I dropped the ComboBox and changed to combined Entry and > Button >> with menu-popup. Works just the way the ComboBox should have. >> >> -Lars >> > > Hi Lars, this is a bit late, but I got around this by catching "hide" on > the combo's popup window: > >popwin = GTK_COMBO (fred)->popwin; >gtk_signal_connect (GTK_OBJECT (popwin), "hide", >GTK_SIGNAL_FUNC (selected), >(gpointer) xx); The problem with that is that you're signalled when the menu disappears, whether or not the user selected an item. With the popup menu, I am only notified when an item is actually selected. -Lars -- Lars Clausen (http://shasta.cs.uiuc.edu/~lrclause)| Hårdgrim of Numenor "I do not agree with a word that you say, but I | will defend to the death your right to say it." | Where are we going, and --Evelyn Beatrice Hall paraphrasing Voltaire | what's with the handbasket? ___ gtk-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list
glib 2.0.6 configure - fix
I've been having troubles getting configure to recognize libraries/includes that reside in /usr/local. By adding CFLAGS, CPPFLAGS, LDFLAGS environment variables to the command line I've been able to get configure to recognize the libs/includes (such as iconv and gettext). If you're having the same types of troubles, this may work: ./configure CFLAGS="-I/usr/local/include" CPPFLAGS="-I/usr/local/include" LDFLAGS="-L/usr/local/lib" I'm still trying to figure out if it is a problem with the configure script or with my ld configuration. Other configure scripts work fine. Hope this helps some. :) -- Wes! [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ gtk-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list
Re: glib-2.0.6
On Tue, 20 Aug 2002 15:21:09 +0200, "Nadir T. Mrabet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I am trying to compile glib-2.0.6 on a SGI O2 R1 under IRIX 6.3. > I use for that : > setenv CFLAGS -O2 ./configure. > pkg-config is installed, as is GNU gettext. > > The 'configure' outcome is fine till it stops at the following message error > signaling the lack of gettext support, although it is installed. > checking for dcgettext in -lintl... no > configure: error: > *** You must have either have gettext support in your C library, or use the > *** GNU gettext library. (http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/gettext.html And the corresponding messages in 'config.log' say what? There should be a nice detailed error report from your compiler in there. -- Valdis Kletnieks Computer Systems Senior Engineer Virginia Tech msg10553/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
glib-2.0.6
Hi, I am trying to compile glib-2.0.6 on a SGI O2 R1 under IRIX 6.3. I use for that : setenv CFLAGS -O2 ./configure. pkg-config is installed, as is GNU gettext. The 'configure' outcome is fine till it stops at the following message error signaling the lack of gettext support, although it is installed. -./configure output ... checking for LC_MESSAGES... yes checking libintl.h usability... yes checking libintl.h presence... yes checking for libintl.h... yes checking for dgettext in libc... no checking for bindtextdomain in -lintl... no checking if -liconv is needed to use gettext... checking for dcgettext in -lintl... no configure: error: *** You must have either have gettext support in your C library, or use the *** GNU gettext library. (http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/gettext.html Any help please. Thanks, Nadir Mrabet begin:vcard n:Mrabet;Nadir tel;fax:+33 (0)3.83.68.32.79 tel;work:+33 (0)3.83.68.32.73 x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:UHP - Nancy I, School of Medicine;EPI INSERM 0014 & URM/IFREMER 20 version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Professor of Biochemistry adr;quoted-printable:;;Laboratoire de Pathologie Cellulaire et=0D=0AMol=E9culaire en Nutrition - Groupe de Bio-informatique Mol=E9culaire et Structurale;Vandoeuvre-lès-Nancy CEDEX;;54505;France fn:Nadir T. Mrabet end:vcard
Re: 2 (simple?) questions
Krzysztof Magrel wrote:
> I've got Segmentation Fault :_(
> My function to change active widget looks like:
>
> void
> przejdz (char *element, GtkWidget * mw)
> {
> // Change active widget to widget with name element
> GtkWidget *w;
> if ((w = lookup_widget (mw, element)) == NULL)
> return;
> gtk_widget_grab_focus (w);
> return;
> }
>
> and for example:
>
> przejdz("entry3",main_window);
>
> make 1 or 2 seconds without reaction (coursor doesn't) change it's
position
> (program freezes) and after this time window closes with Segmentation
Fault
> message.
Something else is broken :-( maybe you're trying to warp the focus to a
widget that's not been built properly yet?
This works for me:
--
#include
int
main (int argc, char *argv[])
{
GtkWidget *window;
GtkWidget *vbox;
GtkWidget *button1;
GtkWidget *button2;
gtk_init (&argc, &argv);
window = gtk_window_new (GTK_WINDOW_TOPLEVEL);
gtk_window_set_policy (GTK_WINDOW (window), FALSE, TRUE, FALSE);
vbox = gtk_vbox_new (FALSE, 0);
gtk_container_add (GTK_CONTAINER (window), vbox);
button1 = gtk_button_new_with_label ("foo");
gtk_box_pack_start (GTK_BOX (vbox), button1, TRUE, TRUE, 0);
button2 = gtk_button_new_with_label ("bar");
gtk_box_pack_start (GTK_BOX (vbox), button2, TRUE, TRUE, 0);
gtk_signal_connect_object (GTK_OBJECT (button1), "clicked",
GTK_SIGNAL_FUNC (gtk_widget_grab_focus),
GTK_OBJECT (button2));
gtk_signal_connect_object (GTK_OBJECT (button2), "clicked",
GTK_SIGNAL_FUNC (gtk_widget_grab_focus),
GTK_OBJECT (button1));
gtk_widget_show_all (window);
gtk_main ();
return 0;
}
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Re: Pixmap performance
Deekshit Mantampady wrote: > In a window I am having (say) 100 pixmap images each of resolution > 100x100. I will be dragging each of them frequently. I am having a celerom > 300A PC with 128 MB RAM. What will be the performance in terms of speed, memory > and flickering. > > The description given in "Memory Management" section of Gdk-Pixbuf API reference > was not satisfying. > > I wanted to clarify all my doubts before I actually start., so that I can choose > a better design. 100 x 100 x 100 x 4 bytes == about 4MB, which should be OK. You just need to be careful when you do the compositing and painting. You should be able to make a little test program in an hour or so if you have any doubts. John == Fabric of Vision Dress and Drapery in Painting 19 June - 8 September 2002 For information and tickets: http://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/exhibitions/fabric/ ___ gtk-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list
Re: Pixmap performance
Here is one more requirement, In a window I am having (say) 100 pixmap images each of resolution 100x100. I will be dragging each of them frequently. I am having a celerom 300A PC with 128 MB RAM. What will be the performance in terms of speed, memory and flickering. The description given in "Memory Management" section of Gdk-Pixbuf API reference was not satisfying. I wanted to clarify all my doubts before I actually start., so that I can choose a better design. Deekshit M "Cupitt, John" wrote: > Deekshit Mantampady wrote: > >I have a small doubt regarding pixmap. I have a pixmap with > resolution of > > > > 1x1 pixels. How fast the image will be rendered ? Assuming I > have a > > scrolled window of size 100x100. How about the scrolled > performace(Will it be > > smooth)..? If this is not the efficient way to display large images, > is there > > any better alternative for the same. > > Hi Deekshit, my app displays large images. > > http://www.vips.ecs.soton.ac.uk/ > > I mmap() the image file and then for each expose event render just the > exposed section from disc to the display. It's quite fast and smooth. > > I did my own code, but I think the new gdk-pixbuf library in gtk2 will > render sections of images. The trick (if there is one) is just to not > ever deal with the whole thing at once. That is a better one. > > > http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/gdk-pixbuf/index.html > > John **Disclaimer Information contained in this E-MAIL being proprietary to Wipro Limited is 'privileged' and 'confidential' and intended for use only by the individual or entity to which it is addressed. You are notified that any use, copying or dissemination of the information contained in the E-MAIL in any manner whatsoever is strictly prohibited. ***
RE: 2 (simple?) questions
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: 2 (simple?) questions
>
>
> Krzysztof Magrel wrote:
> >>>2. How can I change active widget? Tab key only can change coursor
> >>>position
> >>>to the next widget. I want to change active widget from
> >>
> >>source level. (It
> >>
> >>>depends what user of program will do). I know that it is
> >>
> >>not possible for
> >>
> >>>some widgets (ie.labels, etc).
> >>
> >
> > I use gtk-1.2. I tried to find, but niether gtk_widget_grab_focus or
> > gtk_widget_activate doesnt work for me :(
> > And for 1st question i have no Idea :_(
>
> Hi, gtk_widget_grab_focus() works for me, what problem were
> you having
> with it?
I've got Segmentation Fault :_(
My function to change active widget looks like:
void
przejdz (char *element, GtkWidget * mw)
{
// Change active widget to widget with name element
GtkWidget *w;
if ((w = lookup_widget (mw, element)) == NULL)
return;
gtk_widget_grab_focus (w);
return;
}
and for example:
przejdz("entry3",main_window);
make 1 or 2 seconds without reaction (coursor doesn't) change it's position
(program freezes) and after this time window closes with Segmentation Fault
message.
>
> There are a bunch of freeze/thaw functions in gtk+-1.2, but
> they don't
> work very well and have all been removed for gtk2 (I think). gtk2 is
> much more sensible about painting the screen and you don't
> need this trick.
>
> John
>
>
>
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>
> 19 June - 8 September 2002
>
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question: colors, visuals, please help to understand
Hello, I need to allocate colors in PseudoColor and change their values in runtime (gtk+-2.0). GDK allows me to allocate a writeable colors in colormap via gdk_colormap_alloc_colors. But the problem is all functions I've found are deprecated: gdk_colors_store, gdk_color_change, gdk_colormap_change. This (as I think) means that there will be no support for writeable colors in future. It's not important for the True/DirectColor but in the PseudoColor one of the most important features (ability to change entire screen/window look after colormap change only) will be missing. Q: if I'm wrong, please tell me, is there another way (with non-deprecated function) to change the writeable color value ? Q: if I'm right (and there is no another way and this is a bug) should I report to bugzilla ? Q: if I'm right (and there is no another way and this is a feature) is gtk really going to the TrueColor-only world? I'm a deeply sorry if this a stupid or silly question, but I've made two posts and got no answer. Olexiy ___ gtk-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list
Re: Pixmap performance
Deekshit Mantampady wrote: >I have a small doubt regarding pixmap. I have a pixmap with resolution of > > 1x1 pixels. How fast the image will be rendered ? Assuming I have a > scrolled window of size 100x100. How about the scrolled performace(Will it be > smooth)..? If this is not the efficient way to display large images, is there > any better alternative for the same. Hi Deekshit, my app displays large images. http://www.vips.ecs.soton.ac.uk/ I mmap() the image file and then for each expose event render just the exposed section from disc to the display. It's quite fast and smooth. I did my own code, but I think the new gdk-pixbuf library in gtk2 will render sections of images. The trick (if there is one) is just to not ever deal with the whole thing at once. http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/gdk-pixbuf/index.html John == Fabric of Vision Dress and Drapery in Painting 19 June - 8 September 2002 For information and tickets: http://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/exhibitions/fabric/ ___ gtk-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list
Pixmap performance
Hi All, I have a small doubt regarding pixmap. I have a pixmap with resolution of 1x1 pixels. How fast the image will be rendered ? Assuming I have a scrolled window of size 100x100. How about the scrolled performace(Will it be smooth)..? If this is not the efficient way to display large images, is there any better alternative for the same. Regards Deekshit M **Disclaimer Information contained in this E-MAIL being proprietary to Wipro Limited is 'privileged' and 'confidential' and intended for use only by the individual or entity to which it is addressed. You are notified that any use, copying or dissemination of the information contained in the E-MAIL in any manner whatsoever is strictly prohibited. ***
Re: GtkComboBox: How to be notified of selection
Lars Clausen wrote: > On 02 Aug 2002, Lars Clausen wrote: > >>I'm using a GtkComboBox in Dia for zoom selection. I can't quite get it >>to behave the way I'd like. It ought to be that when the user selects an >>item from the drop-down list (making the drop-down disappear), the zoom >>amount should be updated. However, I haven't found a signal that will >>tell me that the user made his or her final selection. "select-child" >>and "selection-changed" from the GtkList is called while the mouse is >>dragged over the items. "unmap", "hide" and "unrealize" don't get >>called. I don't want the user to have to press Enter after selecting >>from the menu, that's all. What should I do? > > > In the end, I dropped the ComboBox and changed to combined Entry and Button > with menu-popup. Works just the way the ComboBox should have. > > -Lars > Hi Lars, this is a bit late, but I got around this by catching "hide" on the combo's popup window: popwin = GTK_COMBO (fred)->popwin; gtk_signal_connect (GTK_OBJECT (popwin), "hide", GTK_SIGNAL_FUNC (selected), (gpointer) xx); works in gtlk1.2 anyway John == Fabric of Vision Dress and Drapery in Painting 19 June - 8 September 2002 For information and tickets: http://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/exhibitions/fabric/ ___ gtk-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list
Re: 2 (simple?) questions
Krzysztof Magrel wrote: >>>2. How can I change active widget? Tab key only can change coursor >>>position >>>to the next widget. I want to change active widget from >> >>source level. (It >> >>>depends what user of program will do). I know that it is >> >>not possible for >> >>>some widgets (ie.labels, etc). >> > > I use gtk-1.2. I tried to find, but niether gtk_widget_grab_focus or > gtk_widget_activate doesnt work for me :( > And for 1st question i have no Idea :_( Hi, gtk_widget_grab_focus() works for me, what problem were you having with it? There are a bunch of freeze/thaw functions in gtk+-1.2, but they don't work very well and have all been removed for gtk2 (I think). gtk2 is much more sensible about painting the screen and you don't need this trick. John == Fabric of Vision Dress and Drapery in Painting 19 June - 8 September 2002 For information and tickets: http://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/exhibitions/fabric/ ___ gtk-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list
Re: Zoom-In/Out of image
gdk-pixbuf has functions for scaling images http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/gdk-pixbuf/gdk-pixbuf-scaling.html Subhankar Chakraborty wrote: > I have a drawing area on which I have to render an image. I am using > GdkRGB images. And rendering using gdk_draw_rgb_image (). > > Could anyone please tell me if it is possible to Zoom into/out of images > in GTK. If yes, then how ? == Fabric of Vision Dress and Drapery in Painting 19 June - 8 September 2002 For information and tickets: http://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/exhibitions/fabric/ ___ gtk-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list
Re: button with icon...
Have you read the gtk tutorial? This is very easy: http://www.gtk.org/tutorial/ch-buttonwidget.html Gourav wrote: > Hi > I am also working on the same for my project but it seems that you can't set > pixmap on button for that you have to make your own widget with something > like event box. > I am trying to make it possible with above idea you can also try and please > let me know if you got success and if i got success then i can send you the > idea for the same if you want it. > Bye > Amit > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 3:41 PM > Subject: button with icon... > > > >> >>hi all.. >> how can we make a button with icon as a circle on it.. >> thanks.in advance... >> == Fabric of Vision Dress and Drapery in Painting 19 June - 8 September 2002 For information and tickets: http://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/exhibitions/fabric/ ___ gtk-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list
