Delvac was: GTS oil comsumption
If truckers are willing to put this stuff in $75,000 motors and leave it in there for up to 25,000 miles , it has to be good. There are a couple reasons why large diesel engines run non synthetic oils-generally. My father drives tractor-trailers and also is a mechanical engineer (I know,,don't ask.) He knows the advantages of running synthetic lubricants. He uses Delvac because #1 he always gets a spinner oil filtration system on his trucks (filters down to one micron.) #2 because Caterpillar requires you to change the oil every 25,000 miles regardless if it is a synthetic or not. When you change 6-7 gallons of oil per change along with $15 worth of filters (at least, depends on which change it is) synthetic doesn't add up. He does however run synthetic fluids in the axles and transmission. I am not saying the Delvac oil isn't a good oil, just the big truck scenario doesn't mean much. I use Delvac in my John Deere, Caterpillar forklift, log splitter, and my WR (because Yamaha wants me to change the oil every 2.5 hours-what a joke.) Louis
Re: radiator overheating
On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've never caught the fans running. Are they loud enough to here over stop and go traffic? I know I can test them to see if the fans work but how is a simple way of getting the bike hot enough to have the fans come on without damage? I'd suggest riding it in an MSF Experienced Rider Course in New Mexico heat during mid-summer. :) Seriously, though, yes you can hear the fan if it comes on while you're sitting at idle. My GTS does NOT tend to get that hot though. In contrast, the FZR 1000 I used to own would get hot much more easily, presumably a difference in the tuning of the two motors. And yes, when I rode the FZR for an MSF ERC for NMMSP (gawd, lookit all the acronyms!!) it really did tend to run hot. Enough so that it concerned me at the time. Phil
RE: Yamaha's warranty VS Normal wear. getting fluffy
as I have mentioned in another email, EVERY Yamaha dealer I have talk to about this in 6 countries has said that 1/3 litter at 1000 KM is normal. when it got to 1 liter in 500 miles then they said it was time to get the engine worked on. that happened at about 60,000 miles. and yes the hotter the bike runs the worse the problem. Mike Coan www.warmnsafe.com Home of the Heat-troller www.ttg-global.com Motorcycle Travel Site -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of wghalley Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 4:11 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Yamaha's warranty VS "Normal" wear. gettin fluffy snip Has anyone ever had a manufacturer admit that an engine has abnormal oil usage? My Chevy truck has used a quart /1500 miles since new and now has 172,000+ miles still uses a quart /1500 miles. Dealer said it was normal usage! I have noticed the GTS uses more in hot weather but I can't say whether this is because it actually does use more or because I ride harder when it's warm out. Bill The bad new is that he says that is "normal" wear after 50,000 miles, and won't be covered under warranty !!! Is this normal ? Did this happen to any of you guys ? Any tough for AJ ? Help ! Richard
Resolution of ABS HU claim
Well, Yamaha finally capitulated. They agreed to cover the HU, but not the labor to install it! Seems strange to me. They claim that they'll replace the part, but the labor is my expense because there's no warranty left. Dealer claims labor is about 2 hours, or $100. Dealer also says that list on HU is ~ $1800. I guess I got out okay, seeing how they originally wouldn't accept any responsibility at all. Is this perhaps a change on Yamaha's part from their earlier take that they'd replace it completely free? Or is my dealer taking me for a ride? The tech at the dealer has been very cool, and I find it hard to believe he's doing anything underhanded... Thanks, Stephen '93 GTS1000A, '00 Valkyrie Interstate
RE: radiator overheating
the fans are very quiet and I have to look to see that they are on. Mike Coan www.warmnsafe.com Home of the Heat-troller www.ttg-global.com Motorcycle Travel Site -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 4:35 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: radiator overheating On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've never caught the fans running. Are they loud enough to here over stop and go traffic? I know I can test them to see if the fans work but how is a simple way of getting the bike hot enough to have the fans come on without damage? I'd suggest riding it in an MSF Experienced Rider Course in New Mexico heat during mid-summer. :) Seriously, though, yes you can hear the fan if it comes on while you're sitting at idle. My GTS does NOT tend to get that hot though. In contrast, the FZR 1000 I used to own would get hot much more easily, presumably a difference in the tuning of the two motors. And yes, when I rode the FZR for an MSF ERC for NMMSP (gawd, lookit all the acronyms!!) it really did tend to run hot. Enough so that it concerned me at the time. Phil
RE: Resolution of ABS HU claim
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Re: Resolution of ABS HU claim
Since there is no "official" policy on HU out of warranty failure, the Yamaha stance appears to be flexible on a case by case basis. We all were aware that the "Christmas gift" back in December would probably be time-sensitive, the grace period appears to be coming to an end. So everyone needs to test re-test their ABS, try to get failing units replaced before Yamaha closes the door for good. I just replaced my back tire because I had two punctures that occurred the same day on a two hour ride. What are the chances of that happening? They both could have happened at the same time, I guess. I plugged the first hole the tire kept going flat.. then I found the second. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Multiple recipients of list" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 5:02 PM Subject: Resolution of ABS HU claim Well, Yamaha finally capitulated. They agreed to cover the HU, but not the labor to install it! Seems strange to me. They claim that they'll replace the part, but the labor is my expense because there's no warranty left. Dealer claims labor is about 2 hours, or $100. Dealer also says that list on HU is ~ $1800. I guess I got out okay, seeing how they originally wouldn't accept any responsibility at all. Is this perhaps a change on Yamaha's part from their earlier take that they'd replace it completely free? Or is my dealer taking me for a ride? The tech at the dealer has been very cool, and I find it hard to believe he's doing anything underhanded... Thanks, Stephen '93 GTS1000A, '00 Valkyrie Interstate
The best thing about loaner bikes is......
..that when you give 'em back, you realize what a great ride the GTS really is. The BMW oilhead is OK as bikes go, and very nice handling in the city, but it's not the bike the GTS is. Phil
flat tires (was Re: Resolution of ABS HU claim)
On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, Andy Perry wrote: I just replaced my back tire because I had two punctures that occurred the same day on a two hour ride. What are the chances of that happening? They both could have happened at the same time, I guess. I plugged the first hole the tire kept going flat.. then I found the second. I mentioned that last weekend I picked up a screw in the back tire, and left my bike in the shop for the replacement. When I picked it up today, the guy who worked on it said that the screw was not the real problem, the real problem was a mesquite thorn that was also in the tire from the same ride. It can happen. Phil
Fluff RE: tire puncture
I just replaced my back tire because I had two punctures that occurred the same day on a two hour ride. What are the chances of that happening? In California ? about 50 - 50 Richard
Riding Jacket
OK Guys, Time to educate me again. I'm out looking at leather riding jackets. Any advise as to what qualities I should be looking for brands to stay away from? Would you recommend a jacket with body armour like T-Pro or others? How restrictive is body armour? I don't anticipate any riding in wet weather. I'm looking for some protection for my hide should I go down. Thanks again to all!! Dave 93 GTS Fresno CA.
