Re: Would Teflon/Steel Brake Lines Prevent Moisture Intrusion?
Mike, I'm not sure if the steel lined brakes would help keep the moist out, but as soon as you've installed them, there's nothing that would make you feel satisfied with the rubber hoses. Believe me!! Michel Bijl - Original Message - From: Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 7:09 AM Subject: Would Teflon/Steel Brake Lines Prevent Moisture Intrusion? Fellow GTSer's -- I've been lurking here in the Bay Area and enjoying the list as time permits (been real busy adding onto our house, changing jobs, and trying to keep up with 3 teenagers, and trying not to commit malpractice). While my ABS works great now (and has never had a problem), I fear that as soon as Yamaha Corporate throws the brakes on the free (or relatively free) ABS repair, mine will malfunction. I have read over the past 18 months or so that the problem is likely due to moisture intrusion into the brake lines over time and, therefore, it's highly recommended that GTS owners replace their brake fluid annually. My question to the technical guys out there is: Would installing teflon/steel brake lines also help to prevent moisture intrusion and/or corrosion of the ABS internals? I'm okay with the feel of the stock brakes and would only consider shelling out the green for new brake lines IF they were good insurance and were effective in reducing moisture intrusion. What do you think? Mike Cordon Danville, CA '94 GTS --- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 6:14 PM Subject: Re: MRA photo request; rear brake gremlin In your message dated: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 07:49:43 EDT, your pithy ruminations on Re: MRA photo request; rear brake gremlin were: = = = Could it be air comming trough the rubber hoses. The advise is to change = them after some years. I have teflon/steel lines and never have to bleed. Where did you get the steel lines? Were they pre-made for the GTS, or did you specify the lengths fitting types yourself? Mark = = Fred Schneider = = My rear brake loses pressure over about a two week span. I can find no = apparent leaks in the system and the level in the rear master cylinder = does = not dimininsh over that period. I get a small amount of air upon = bleeding = at = the rear caliper and this cures the problem for a couple fo weeks. = Mine does this also but it takes longer to require bleeding again usually = every couple months. I have had the HPU replaced under warranty to try and = cure the problem and two shops could not figure out the problem so I just = decided to live with it and flush out the system every couple months. = = Bob
Re: Would Teflon/Steel Brake Lines Prevent Moisture Intrusion?
Mike, I AM sure the teflon is more impermeable than the stock rubber, and I'm sure you like the feel of these hoses as I did on my old Ho*** Sabre. A word of note--the service manual recommends replacing the hoses every two years of service anyway, reason enough to give us a hard time replacing the HU's for free as most of us have not done this... So, for justification's sake--new teflons (if we can find them in the US) probably cost about as much as stock rubber. Replace them now and spare yourself the trouble of replacing the HU... IMHO Fl Kev --- Michel Bijl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike, I'm not sure if the steel lined brakes would help keep the moist out, but as soon as you've installed them, there's nothing that would make you feel satisfied with the rubber hoses. Believe me!! Michel Bijl - Original Message - From: Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 7:09 AM Subject: Would Teflon/Steel Brake Lines Prevent Moisture Intrusion? Fellow GTSer's -- I've been lurking here in the Bay Area and enjoying the list as time permits (been real busy adding onto our house, changing jobs, and trying to keep up with 3 teenagers, and trying not to commit malpractice). While my ABS works great now (and has never had a problem), I fear that as soon as Yamaha Corporate throws the brakes on the free (or relatively free) ABS repair, mine will malfunction. I have read over the past 18 months or so that the problem is likely due to moisture intrusion into the brake lines over time and, therefore, it's highly recommended that GTS owners replace their brake fluid annually. My question to the technical guys out there is: Would installing teflon/steel brake lines also help to prevent moisture intrusion and/or corrosion of the ABS internals? I'm okay with the feel of the stock brakes and would only consider shelling out the green for new brake lines IF they were good insurance and were effective in reducing moisture intrusion. What do you think? Mike Cordon Danville, CA '94 GTS __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: Would Teflon/Steel Brake Lines Prevent Moisture Intrusion?
In a message dated 9/14/00 1:21:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My question to the technical guys out there is: Would installing teflon/steel brake lines also help to prevent moisture intrusion and/or corrosion of the ABS internals? This will help. Glycol brake fluid has the ability to draw moisture through the porosities of the rubber lines. Eliminating those porosities is a benefit.
