Re: Potential ECU Failure

2000-10-17 Thread S. Bodnar



Anyone have any info on this. My brothers 93 died. Looks like no gas
getting to injectors. Fuel pump works. Just started looking into it.
Anybody have a access to a spare unit ?  Will be busy this weekend to sort
this out. Thanks,  Stan




New Topic!

2000-10-17 Thread Shawn Pearsall

In my few years of being on here...we've danced around the topic, but never
officially talked about it..so here it goes:

Body armor...anyone wear it (besides inside the suits)?  If  so what type,
where?

Recently I had the displeasure of meeting a young man at a stop sign.  I was
about to do a California roll (about 5-8mph) in a new subdivision where no
one lives yet.  Looked, slowed, no one coming, about to release the clutch
and brakes...boom out of the corn of my eye comes this kids  "flying" about
60.  I reacted, but was already turning.  Cold...mid forties, warm tires,
but not on the edges, to much brake grab, lockup and down I go.  Slow speed
roll off bike, (quite neat actually!) hit helmet on payment, shoulder, hip,
etc.  Kid took off, never looking back (but he saw me go down!)

Joe Rocket suit worked quite well.  Not a high speed slide, but no signs of
wear except where I straddled the bike and hit the exhaust pipe (didn't feel
it).  Small chunk out of the helmet (time for a new one anyway).  Bent my
pinkie, quick straightening (Medic!) The examined the SV for damage.  One
cracked panel with minor scrap...nothing else.  Few squirts of super glue,
she's OK.  No bruised ego just my shoulder  hip.

Fact is I didn't realize I had hit my hip.  Joe Rocket suit has pads in
shoulders, elbows  Knees.  Nothing in the hips.  Seriously think (almost 2
weeks later it still hurts)a hip armor would have helpedany experiences
to compare?

Shawn Pearsall




Re: It's French to me

2000-10-17 Thread grant gall

But did you see the yellow bike  sidecar?

It looks pretty cool.

Grant Gall




RE: New Topic!

2000-10-17 Thread Crisler, Jon

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Ouch, hope you feel better.  I only had a little armour from my MX days, and
have never worn it on the street.  

Been down twice, once in '88 when I was hit from behind at an air show at
Andrews AFB with the wife.  Hit by a camper/van at about 5-10 mph, pushed
into the car in front.  Bike was serious shortened, we both got bumps and
bruises.  The driver of the van had been drinking at the air show, and the
MP's took all sorts of pictures and arrested the driver.  I had a field day
with the guys insurance company.  He did not tell them he was arrested, and
when I pointed it out (and had the arrest report) they got real scared and
started quoting figures to avoid a lawsuit.  Thats how I got the Katana
1100.

 Second time was on the Woodrow Wilson bridge going into Alexandria VA,
about '91.  Got caught in a sudden summer thunderstorm (visibility was
almost zero), and while changing lanes to go to Old Town Rt 1, I hit a
puddle of standing water, hydroplaned and went down in a split second.  The
water helped though, it was like a high speed fall on water ski's.  Knocked
the wind out of me, bruise on the hip where I slid on top of my pager, bike
had body scrapes.

 I got the GTS in 95 when the Katana was stolen, never been down on it in
24k miles.


-Original Message-
From: Shawn Pearsall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 10:37 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: New Topic!


In my few years of being on here...we've danced around the topic, but never
officially talked about it..so here it goes:

Body armor...anyone wear it (besides inside the suits)?  If  so what type,
where?

Recently I had the displeasure of meeting a young man at a stop sign.  I was
about to do a California roll (about 5-8mph) in a new subdivision where no
one lives yet.  Looked, slowed, no one coming, about to release the clutch
and brakes...boom out of the corn of my eye comes this kids  "flying" about
60.  I reacted, but was already turning.  Cold...mid forties, warm tires,
but not on the edges, to much brake grab, lockup and down I go.  Slow speed
roll off bike, (quite neat actually!) hit helmet on payment, shoulder, hip,
etc.  Kid took off, never looking back (but he saw me go down!)

Joe Rocket suit worked quite well.  Not a high speed slide, but no signs of
wear except where I straddled the bike and hit the exhaust pipe (didn't feel
it).  Small chunk out of the helmet (time for a new one anyway).  Bent my
pinkie, quick straightening (Medic!) The examined the SV for damage.  One
cracked panel with minor scrap...nothing else.  Few squirts of super glue,
she's OK.  No bruised ego just my shoulder  hip.

Fact is I didn't realize I had hit my hip.  Joe Rocket suit has pads in
shoulders, elbows  Knees.  Nothing in the hips.  Seriously think (almost 2
weeks later it still hurts)a hip armor would have helpedany experiences
to compare?

Shawn Pearsall

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was serious shortened, we both got bumps and bruises.nbsp; The driver =
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sorts of pictures and arrested the driver.nbsp; I had a field day with =
the guys insurance company.nbsp; He did not tell them he was arrested, =
and when I pointed it out (and had the arrest report) they got real =
scared and started quoting figures to avoid a lawsuit.nbsp; Thats how =
I got the Katana 1100./FONT/P

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going into Alexandria VA, about '91.nbsp; Got caught in a sudden =
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lanes to go to Old Town Rt 1, I hit a puddle of standing water, =
hydroplaned and went down in a split second.nbsp; The water helped =
though, it was like a high speed fall on water ski's.nbsp; Knocked the =
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had body scrapes./FONT/P

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Re: New Topic!

2000-10-17 Thread pbenson


Shawn,

Let's see, where to begin, oh yes, I know..OUCH DAMMIT

There.

Now, for the armor.  I don't use it.  I have two  sets of leathers,
neither with armor, both with extra padding and thicker leather in key
spots.  Armor is likely useful though.

What armor does is spread a sharp or pointed impact over a larger area.
This in turn can help to avoid a broken bone, etc., but in a truly serious
impact you'll still break things.  Most track folks use armor and swear by
it, but people I know often avoid it on the street.

On a similar topic--back protectors.  Does anyone on this list use one for
regular street riding?

Armor and back protectors are both standard fair on most tracks.  I've not
checked the club-level web pages to see if the rules mandate them, but it
may be required.  A good idea none-the-less.

Oh.one last thing.  Speaking of breaking bones, did ya get a plate
number on the @$$ho!e who started this mess???  Want the GTS Touring
Society to show up in numbers and use our no-longer-functional stock
chains (we've all converted, remember?) to beat the tar out of him???
Huh?  Huh  :)

Phil

On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Shawn Pearsall wrote:

 In my few years of being on here...we've danced around the topic, but never
 officially talked about it..so here it goes:
 
 Body armor...anyone wear it (besides inside the suits)?  If  so what type,
 where?
 
 Recently I had the displeasure of meeting a young man at a stop sign.  I was
 about to do a California roll...

snip





Wheels

2000-10-17 Thread Greg Christopher

** Reply to message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, 16 Oct 2000 21:20:41 
-0400 (EDT)

Yes, let us know about the powder coating


I just had my front polished and bead blasted last week. I've clear
coated the bead blasted area, but I just figured I'd continue to polish
the metal area.

It seems like the wheel may have had a "Clear powder coat" previously,
and rather than try and figure out how the hell to do that, I'm just riding
it bare, which requires a shine up about once a month.

Never had problems with the rear; chain lube does a nice job protecting it. :)

-Greg

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Lottery: A tax on people who are bad at math.



RE: New Topic!

2000-10-17 Thread Hawkins, Kevin

You got a Kanatuna 1100? You should have hired a lawyer!! :^)

Kevin Hawkins // Greensboro, NC 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.geocities.com/~raddboy
Y2K Kawasaki ZRX1100 // '93 Yamaha GTS1000


-Original Message-
From: Crisler, Jon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 11:03 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: RE: New Topic!

Ouch, hope you feel better.  I only had a little armour from my MX days, and
have never worn it on the street.  

Been down twice, once in '88 when I was hit from behind at an air show at
Andrews AFB with the wife.  Hit by a camper/van at about 5-10 mph, pushed
into the car in front.  Bike was serious shortened, we both got bumps and
bruises.  The driver of the van had been drinking at the air show, and the
MP's took all sorts of pictures and arrested the driver.  I had a field day
with the guys insurance company.  He did not tell them he was arrested, and
when I pointed it out (and had the arrest report) they got real scared and
started quoting figures to avoid a lawsuit.  Thats how I got the Katana
1100.

 Second time was on the Woodrow Wilson bridge going into Alexandria VA,
about '91.  Got caught in a sudden summer thunderstorm (visibility was
almost zero), and while changing lanes to go to Old Town Rt 1, I hit a
puddle of standing water, hydroplaned and went down in a split second.  The
water helped though, it was like a high speed fall on water ski's.  Knocked
the wind out of me, bruise on the hip where I slid on top of my pager, bike
had body scrapes.

 I got the GTS in 95 when the Katana was stolen, never been down on it in
24k miles.


-Original Message-
From: Shawn Pearsall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 10:37 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: New Topic!


In my few years of being on here...we've danced around the topic, but never
officially talked about it..so here it goes:

Body armor...anyone wear it (besides inside the suits)?  If  so what type,
where?

Recently I had the displeasure of meeting a young man at a stop sign.  I was
about to do a California roll (about 5-8mph) in a new subdivision where no
one lives yet.  Looked, slowed, no one coming, about to release the clutch
and brakes...boom out of the corn of my eye comes this kids  "flying" about
60.  I reacted, but was already turning.  Cold...mid forties, warm tires,
but not on the edges, to much brake grab, lockup and down I go.  Slow speed
roll off bike, (quite neat actually!) hit helmet on payment, shoulder, hip,
etc.  Kid took off, never looking back (but he saw me go down!)

Joe Rocket suit worked quite well.  Not a high speed slide, but no signs of
wear except where I straddled the bike and hit the exhaust pipe (didn't feel
it).  Small chunk out of the helmet (time for a new one anyway).  Bent my
pinkie, quick straightening (Medic!) The examined the SV for damage.  One
cracked panel with minor scrap...nothing else.  Few squirts of super glue,
she's OK.  No bruised ego just my shoulder  hip.

Fact is I didn't realize I had hit my hip.  Joe Rocket suit has pads in
shoulders, elbows  Knees.  Nothing in the hips.  Seriously think (almost 2
weeks later it still hurts)a hip armor would have helpedany experiences
to compare?

Shawn Pearsall

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was serious shortened, we both got bumps and bruises.nbsp; The driver =
of the van had been drinking at the air show, and the MP's took all =
sorts of pictures and arrested the driver.nbsp; I had a field day with =
the guys insurance company.nbsp; He did not tell them he was arrested, =
and when I pointed it out (and had the arrest report) they got real =
scared and started quoting figures to avoid a lawsuit.nbsp; Thats how =
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going into Alexandria VA, about '91.nbsp; Got caught in a sudden =
summer thunderstorm (visibility was almost zero), and while changing =
lanes to go to Old Town Rt 1, I hit a puddle of standing water, =
hydroplaned and went down in a split second.nbsp; The water helped =
though, it was like a high speed fall on water ski's.nbsp; Knocked the =
wind out of me, bruise on the hip where I slid on top of my pager, bike =
had body scrapes./FONT/P


RE: New Topic!

2000-10-17 Thread Hawkins, Kevin

Ooch, eech, ouch! I know Aerostich has a hip pad option for their Darien
suit, but I didn't see the need (does my ass look big in my Aerostich?).
Anyway Shawn, there are several companies that sell body armor that is
stiched to a mesh cloth (Knox, etc.). It can be worn under your choice of
outerware and seems to be popular with some squidlies in our area. It sounds
like your suit did it's job and that soreness can be expect no matter how
much armor you're wearing. Ride safe buddy!

Kevin Hawkins // Greensboro, NC 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.geocities.com/~raddboy
Y2K Kawasaki ZRX1100 // '93 Yamaha GTS1000


-Original Message-
From: Shawn Pearsall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 10:36 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: New Topic!


In my few years of being on here...we've danced around the topic, but never
officially talked about it..so here it goes:

Body armor...anyone wear it (besides inside the suits)?  If  so what type,
where?

Recently I had the displeasure of meeting a young man at a stop sign.  I was
about to do a California roll (about 5-8mph) in a new subdivision where no
one lives yet.  Looked, slowed, no one coming, about to release the clutch
and brakes...boom out of the corn of my eye comes this kids  "flying" about
60.  I reacted, but was already turning.  Cold...mid forties, warm tires,
but not on the edges, to much brake grab, lockup and down I go.  Slow speed
roll off bike, (quite neat actually!) hit helmet on payment, shoulder, hip,
etc.  Kid took off, never looking back (but he saw me go down!)

Joe Rocket suit worked quite well.  Not a high speed slide, but no signs of
wear except where I straddled the bike and hit the exhaust pipe (didn't feel
it).  Small chunk out of the helmet (time for a new one anyway).  Bent my
pinkie, quick straightening (Medic!) The examined the SV for damage.  One
cracked panel with minor scrap...nothing else.  Few squirts of super glue,
she's OK.  No bruised ego just my shoulder  hip.

Fact is I didn't realize I had hit my hip.  Joe Rocket suit has pads in
shoulders, elbows  Knees.  Nothing in the hips.  Seriously think (almost 2
weeks later it still hurts)a hip armor would have helpedany experiences
to compare?

Shawn Pearsall



Body Armour

2000-10-17 Thread grant gall

Nope, don't wear it on the street.  But I do wear leathers head to toe.

Do wear it dirt biking though and it's saved me a couple of times.

Grant Gall





Re: New Topic!

2000-10-17 Thread RangerJay

Hope the SV heals quickly, Shawn. I'm sure you'll do well.

A few years ago I hit some gravel around a blind, tight curve and went down 
at probably about 30 mph. Nice easy slide out. Wearing my Aerostich. I hit my 
butt more than my hip. No padding there (hip pads are an option) but I came 
out with no damage at all. None. Not even sore the next morning. In fact, I 
had the bike picked up before my buddy behind me got stopped. (It wasn't the 
GTS.) The 'stich is pretty thick and acts as padding even where this isn't 
any extra. It's the only non-leather suit accepted at some track events. One 
thing, I'm pretty sure I would have chipped an elbow if that hadn't been 
padded, one reason I almost never wear that stylish leather jacket that has 
no armor.
I've thought about Motoport's arrmored gizmo that can fit under a jacket. 
It's well ventilated and can be worn alone (although it looks kinda stupid) 
on a really warm day. No direct experience, though.
Now if you want to talk about some bruises and scrapes, let me tell you 
about my mountain biking! (Screaming downhill in just shorts and very 
lightweight tee shirt. Dodging cactus, rocks and cliffs I feel stupid, 
but hey, I pedal up that mountain! Doing a 5,000-foot vertical climb this 
Saturday. Anybody wanna join me?)

-Jay

In a message dated 10/17/00 7:37:32 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Fact is I didn't realize I had hit my hip.  Joe Rocket suit has pads in
shoulders, elbows  Knees.  Nothing in the hips. 



Orange County, California
Park Ranger R-115
1993-1998



Old Topic!!! (was RE: New Topic!)

2000-10-17 Thread pbenson



On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Hawkins, Kevin wrote:

 You got a Kanatuna 1100? You should have hired a lawyer!! :^)

Uh.Kevin, the list has been down this road before, but this one line
response by you came up on my computer as 190 lines of stuff.  I pity the
digesters.  Please.cut your messages before you reply.

Phil





Re: Old Topic!!! (fluff!)

2000-10-17 Thread RangerJay

I'm a digester. Up! 'scuse me, that was breakfast.

In a message dated 10/17/00 8:45:32 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I pity the digesters.  



Orange County, California
Park Ranger R-115
1993-1998



Re: Body Armour

2000-10-17 Thread Hugh Hamilton

Head to toe? You mean one of those SM headpieces with a little zipper
in front of the mouth?
That must look impressive when riding :)
Hugh

grant gall wrote:
 
 Nope, don't wear it on the street.  But I do wear leathers head to toe.
 
 Do wear it dirt biking though and it's saved me a couple of times.
 
 Grant Gall



Re: Its French to me...

2000-10-17 Thread Michel Bijl

He's just referring to his site.

MB
- Original Message - 
From: Brandon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 7:23 PM
Subject: Its French to me...


 Heh. Guess we're an international bunch for sure. Since I don't have any
 French to brush up on, (never learned it), perhaps Richard or someone
 could interpet this for me. (And invite him to join our 'little mailing
 list'.
 
 Here it is. (Along with my guess as to what it says below.)
 
 ---original message--
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Bonjour
  
  Je vous soumets l'adresse de mon site parlant de la GTS 1000 A.
  
  Amicalement
  
  @+ Yves
  A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/lebrun_yves"
  http://www.geocities.com/lebrun_yves/A
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 ---
 
 Here's my guess. 
 
 "Hello.(Or "Greetings".)
 
 This is the address of my website for my GTS1000 A.
 
 Thank you."
 
 Am I close??
 
 Brandon (Shooting in the dark, once again.) :^)
 
 




RE: Body Armour

2000-10-17 Thread Crisler, Jon

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Head to toe? You mean one of those SM headpieces with a little zipper
in front of the mouth?
That must look impressive when riding :)
Hugh

grant gall wrote:
 
 Nope, don't wear it on the street.  But I do wear leathers head to toe.
 
 Do wear it dirt biking though and it's saved me a couple of times.
 
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Re: Body Armour

2000-10-17 Thread grant gall

Yeah, you should see the heads turn.

Grant Gall

Hugh Hamilton wrote:

 Head to toe? You mean one of those SM headpieces with a little zipper
 in front of the mouth?
 That must look impressive when riding :)
 Hugh

 grant gall wrote:
 
  Nope, don't wear it on the street.  But I do wear leathers head to toe.
 
  Do wear it dirt biking though and it's saved me a couple of times.
 
  Grant Gall




Re: Old Topic!!! (was RE: New Topic!)

2000-10-17 Thread RSRBOB

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  You got a Kanatuna 1100? You should have hired a lawyer!! :^)
 
 Uh.Kevin, the list has been down this road before, but this one line
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Re: New Topic!

2000-10-17 Thread bergman



In your message dated: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 11:13:32 EDT,
your pithy ruminations on Re: New Topic! were:
= 
= Shawn,
= 
= Let's see, where to begin, oh yes, I know..OUCH DAMMIT
= 
= There.
= 
= Now, for the armor.  I don't use it.  I have two  sets of leathers,
= neither with armor, both with extra padding and thicker leather in key
= spots.  Armor is likely useful though.
= 
= What armor does is spread a sharp or pointed impact over a larger area.
= This in turn can help to avoid a broken bone, etc., but in a truly serious
= impact you'll still break things.  Most track folks use armor and swear by
= it, but people I know often avoid it on the street.
= 
= On a similar topic--back protectors.  Does anyone on this list use one for
= regular street riding?
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Yes, I've got the "upgraded" armor in my Aerostich (hard/soft), hip pads, and 
the Aerostich back protector. It's _not_ the best back protector (I think that 
Motoport has a much better one), but it's certainly better than nothing.

I don't know _why_ people would avoid armor for street riding. You're much more 
likely to hit something during a get-off on the street than on the track.

Mark


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Re: It's French to me

2000-10-17 Thread dreuning

Yes, it's called Zeus.
The new baby from Side Bike.

Car engine in the trunk,
Two wheel drive (rear and sidecar wheel),
Two wheel steering (front and rear wheel),
Crash zone in front and at the right side of the sidecar

John Dreuning
http://home.planet.nl/~dreuning

grant gall wrote:

 But did you see the yellow bike  sidecar?

 It looks pretty cool.

 Grant Gall