Re: The list?
It makes no difference to me which way we go, I'm simply happy my computer's up and running again. I've had the week from hell with electrons, the Gov.. ought to tar and feather Bill Gates and burn down Microsoft.they are micro and we must be soft for buying their products. Thank God Yamaha makes the GTS and not Microsoft, no one needs a bike going down the road and all of a sudden it crashes :-)) George the flexible ___ Why pay for something you could get for free? NetZero provides FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: Gasoline
If 87 was specified, as is almost always the case with domestic cars and most non-luxury imports, you'll never get better performance with premium. And even when you do, the difference is minor. Jay Never say never Jay! Higher octane along with a chip change makes my Ford truck purr like a pussy cat and run like a scalded dog when it has to. "Ranger" George ___ Why pay for something you could get for free? NetZero provides FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: Grandpa, whats a slide rule ?
Ba careful there Jon Jon, Sven loves to be spanked and will camp out yer house given half a chance. George Drudge - Original Message - From: Crisler, Jon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 9:04 AM Subject: Grandpa, whats a slide rule ? It is what I am going to smack you on the butt with if you dont stop sassin' your elders !! Grandpa Jon (feeling his age at 37) -Original Message- From: Steve Baglien [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 11:35 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: More: Octane of Gas you use Grandpa... what's a slide rule? _NetZero Free Internet Access and Email__ http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: DC trip next week
Henry, I'm flying in Monday and departing Wednesday morning so Tuesday will be fine for me, I should be through work by 5. I'll be staying at the Silver Springs Court Yard, my cell # is 256-457-0175 and phone # here at home is 256-721-9679. Please send me yours and I'll call you. Look forward to meeting you in person. George - Original Message - From: Henry S. Winokur [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 8:20 PM Subject: RE: DC trip next week If you're talking Tuesday the 24th, I can work it in and would like to meet you IN PERSON. Give me holler off list. Regards, Henry S. Winokur 94 GTS1000, AMA, MRF, MD/MSF Certified Instructor West Bethesda, MD [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of paramithas Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 8:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: DC trip next week I'll be in the DC area Monday Tuesday on business but have both evenings open. Anyone interested in hooking up for a beer and GTS talk? Socialite George - Original Message - From: Hawkins, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 10:59 AM Subject: RE: Aerostitch I wear my Aerostich Darien commuting usually 3-4 days a week on the GTS. Don't get red!! It fades terribly after repeated exposure to the sun and Aerostich will tell you that when you're placing the order. There is NOTHING they can do about it. The colors that seem to hold up best are black or gray. There is NO WAY this suit will wear out in a year or two and if there is a problem with any part of the suit simply send it in for an immediate repair. If it is a problem with a zipper or a torn seam, they will repair it FREE. I can't say enough good things about the company and the product. You REALLY don't need to wash it very often even if you wear it everyday. Simply take a damp cloth to get bugs of other dirt off small areas. If you do have to wash the whole suit, take out the pads (very simple) and wash with Nikwax http://www.nikwax.com Techwash and treat with Nikwax TX-Direct Wash-in to refresh it's water repellancy. Kevin Hawkins // Greensboro, NC [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/~raddboy Y2K Kawasaki ZRX1100 // '93 Yamaha GTS1000 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 1:03 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Aerostitch Regarding the Aerostitch suit how many of us are using one for pretty much daily commuting ? I want to know how well they hold up with day in day out usage. Its quite a bit of money to me and I would hate to wear it out in a year or two. Since I ride a bike almost daily. I have a hard time believing with daily usage, repeated launderings and sun exposure any faric would hold up for very long. Any comments apreciated. Offlist is fine I'm sure this subject has been around before. Darren [EMAIL PROTECTED] _NetZero Free Internet Access and Email__ http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html NetZero Free Internet Access and Email_ Download Now http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Request a CDROM 1-800-333-3633 ___
Re: DC trip next week
Vas Hughy been in da bottle again? George...hick.understands No but I'd love a Redskin T-shirt in size XL :) _NetZero Free Internet Access and Email__ http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: GTS Photo
Can't quite put me finga on it but there's something bastardized, something Hawky about this hea blue bike, I can feel it! Eh could it be the color, the extra GTS emblems, something's funky but what? It's spit polished though that's for certain. George scratching his.. - Original Message - From: Hawkins, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 4:53 AM Subject: RE: GTS Photo Here's a couple more: http://www.geocities.com/~raddboy/gts1000/newgts5.jpg http://www.geocities.com/~raddboy/gts1000/newgts6.jpg Kevin Hawkins // Greensboro, NC [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/~raddboy Y2K Kawasaki ZRX1100 // '93 Yamaha GTS1000 -Original Message- From: Garrett Welch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 10:33 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: GTS Photo Lets see the closest one I have is this one. http://gtser.kendra.com/images/gts100024.jpg The black piece in the rear of the GTS is where The bag slides on. By the foot peg there is a latch to lock the bag on. To anyone on the list, do you have a close up picture of the mounting hardware of the stock GTS bags? - Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 1:04 PM Subject: GTS Photo Attached is a photo of my GTS from a recent trip to Deal's Gap North Carolina. By the way do you know where I can find photos of the Yamaha Accesory touring luggage? I would like to see some details on the mounting hardware with the luggage removed from the bike. _NetZero Free Internet Access and Email__ http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: help: my GTS wants to shake me off!
Take the rack back off check to see if the problem still exists. If so check the condition of your tires...front and back. Cupped and/or wornout tires tend to produce tank slapping at deceleration. Now if your problem occurs at acceleration as well I would blame the rack or bad installation. Go get you some Krausers or a Bushtec trailer and forget about this rack. George the vibration buster _NetZero Free Internet Access and Email__ http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: AMSoil
I've used Motul over the years, a great-great product. AMSoil also a great product, we are splitting hairs here folks. Slick George - Original Message - From: uranus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 6:49 AM Subject: RE: AMSoil At 09:23 03/10/00 -0400, you wrote: Also, AMSOIL has lots of other stuff that Mobil hasn't even thought of yet. About a year ago the AMSOIL rep here said that they had everyone covered except Motul - he said that Motul's "synthetic castor oil" technology was the only thing AMS couldn't then do but wished they could. If Motul 300v is not available locally, you won't go far wrong with AMS. David Thurgate http://www.uranus.co.uk/M_cycles.htm === Kawasaki ZX750-A1 in Tony Foale HCS frame Current status: Dismantled! Yamaha GTS1000a in Yamaha HCS frame Current status: Taxed and tested! NetZero Free Internet Access and Email_ Download Now http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Request a CDROM 1-800-333-3633 ___
Re: one bike?
You meant to say nice "sport touring" rides right? Cause if that's all you got in ya you're getting old S.A.#.whatever yer number is. Smart Ass supreme - Original Message - From: Hawkins, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 5:19 AM Subject: RE: one bike? Great question! Other than my obvious choice, the GTS1000, here are some other nice rides. K1200RS Triumph Sprint ST VFR800 - silver please. FJR1300 R1100S ___ Why pay for something you could get for free? NetZero provides FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: one bike?
Well now Nick T, I'll just have to ride back down to Barber's to check this baby out. I've got to admit it looks simply marvelous in the pictures! VROOM VROOM George - Original Message - From: nicholas.threader [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 5:39 AM Subject: Re: one bike? One man's dream. If i ever had the chance to own a bike other than the GTS this would be it. A Britten motorcycle , an unbelievable bike , built by hand from scratch. Its my birthday today and my wife bought me the video ,"One man's dream", plus a T shirt . NetZero Free Internet Access and Email_ Download Now http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Request a CDROM 1-800-333-3633 ___
Olympic fluff
OK my Oceania brethren, my sincere congratulations on a Olympian effort. You guys achieved perfection and will be one very-very tough act to follow. As for some of the USA so called athletes..another black eye in behavior. Is it Maurice and co. or is it moron and co. Ah, what's the difference. George still an Australian at heart PS. And now for an interesting factoid. At the Sydney games all athletes were issued 51 condoms each. Last week of the games, these 11,000 viral athletes had gone through them and were trying to have more shipped into the Olympic village. If only this hea Greek had bought stock in Trojans :---))) NetZero Free Internet Access and Email_ Download Now http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Request a CDROM 1-800-333-3633 ___
Re: GTS's for sale/Kiko by
Hey Kiko, good luck to you whatever you ride, besides once a GTS owner always a GTS owner. Keep in touch. Your friend George - Original Message - From: K9KIKO [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 3:33 PM Subject: RE: GTS's for sale Bill, If I have offended you, I'm sorry. Unfortunately, now you have offended me. As for the sale of my machine, I've ridden all type of bikes, driven all type of cars and flown all types of aircraft. Will I miss the GTS, Duh Bigots? No, I never accused anyone... Why am I rude and snippy and others SA's h... Sell the encyclopedias, cause you know everything. P.S. FYI, I do my job when it needs to be done. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of wghalley Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 9:59 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: GTS's for sale Hey Cruz You makin noise like you gotta leave da list 'cause you sell'n yo' scoot. While we may question your sanity, we understand sometimes circumstances force your hand. You can hang around. making rude comments, sniping at the SA's even if you don't own a GTS. We're not that bigotted, we'll let you stay as a former owner. (long as you promise not to ticket any GTS owners you stop). Bill -Original Message- From: K9KIKO [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 5:22 PM Subject: RE: GTS's for sale Brandon, Thanks for asking. Please utilize my e-mail address, [EMAIL PROTECTED] "CruzinTrooper" -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brandon Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 3:02 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: GTS's for sale Gil Hillman and [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You want that I should list these bikes on the GTS site? Affirmative replies require either email contacts and/or phone #'s. I'll also take a pic or two if desired. Brandon NetZero Free Internet Access and Email_ Download Now http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Request a CDROM 1-800-333-3633 ___
Re: weather fluff
One hell of a spectacle Rob old boy, one hell of a spectacle, Aussie land's done good on this one. First the Spaniards now this, I don't know if/how the Greeks can top it in 2004. George hears Zeus calling :-)) - Original Message - From: Rob Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 5:54 PM Subject: Re: weather fluff Well, there's the Olympics!! Hope some of you saw the stunning Opening Ceremony. I hope the Closing Ceremony will be as good or better, as Margaret and I will be there. AUSSIE, AUSSIE, AUSSIE, OI, OI, OI!! Regards, Rob Chapman - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Multiple recipients of list" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2000 7:58 AM Subject: Re: weather On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, Michel Bijl wrote: It's been very quite around here. I suppose the weather has been nice and/or there's some holiday in the U.S.? MB Let's see.no holiday..looking out the window I see...no clouds, slight breeze, 90+ degrees, oughta be riding, but. I've been quiet because of the job thingy. Phil _NetZero Free Internet Access and Email__ http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: Medic !!!!
Yep. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 10:26 PM Subject: Re: Medic Also, did you check the sensor coming out the cat before you ordered the TPS? It could also be a culprit. The O2 sensor? NetZero Free Internet Access and Email_ Download Now http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Request a CDROM 1-800-333-3633 ___
Re: Medic !!!!
Fuel Injectors, you have to sync them like you do carbs. George - Original Message - From: fred schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 12:07 AM Subject: Re: Medic What is an FI and what are gauges? Excuse me for my not knowing Humble Fred It seems that there really are two RPM ranges @ which most GTSs surge, around 2,500 RPM around 4,500RPM. I can just about adjust the surge out of one of two ranges but not both. Glad to hear Fred that your adjustment has been successful, my next step is to balance the FI with gaugesif only time was abundantly available. George looking for time in all the wrong places = _NetZero Free Internet Access and Email__ http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: Medic !!!!
Sven, Sven, Sven, no wonder you northern types never built a Parthenon :-)) The O2 sensor of course, which is mounted onto the catalytic converter (you'll see it if you look close under the bike) helps the ECU adjusts for the appropriate fuel mixture. The bike won't run right if that bugger's bad. Lets get the TPS and if that doesn't do it we'll explore various other alternatives. George heading for the office - Original Message - From: Steve Baglien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 3:24 AM Subject: Re: Medic paramithas wrote: Also, did you check the sensor coming out the cat before you ordered the TPS? It could also be a culprit. last time I check my cats, they had no electronics sticking out of them. What are you talking about? Bottom line - the sensor is on order and is due to arrive. The sensor when adjusted would give the discontinuity error - I check the continuity of the power supply and the return and they were good. So, when the TPS arrives, I'm going to give it a shot to see if it clears up the problem - I've tested the bike every way I know how (on and off) for a couple of months now and am getting no closer to the cause. _NetZero Free Internet Access and Email__ http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: North Vs. South (was: Re: Medic !!!!) FLUFF
What have the Greeks done in the last 2,000 years? The Byzantine empire among other things but forget history. Lets talk about more practical matters i.e your infamous fair maidens who come to Greece, Italy Spain every summer ALONE to get...you know have some real fun. Not that we're complaining mind you but what's wrong with this picture my good looking, studdly Sven? George staying busyway to busy for another Parthenon - Original Message - From: Roberto Alonso [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 8:06 AM Subject: North Vs. South (was: Re: Medic ) FLUFF From: Steve Baglien [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Medic Sounds good. BTW, the Vikings played a role greater than or equal to the Greeks. The Viking managed to concur europe, establish Russia and Ireland, discover Iceland, Greenland, and even North America - not to mention kidnap and keep the most beautiful women in the known world (hence we are the most beautiful people today). What has Greece done in the past 2000 years??? :^) Take heart, George. I like the yogurt greeks have made for those 2000 years, and if you think of it, them northern dudes don't look so good after roasting themselves to the flesh in just a couple days of Spanish / Greek sun. No offense, Steve, just a hard *ss trying to stir things up a bit. Roberto. ___ Why pay for something you could get for free? NetZero provides FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: Medic !!!!
Sven me boy I is the type that refuses to read manualsuntil I absolutely have to. I promise to read this time fo yo sake but you will owe me a brooski or two for my troubles. George the thirsty - Original Message - From: Steve Baglien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2000 6:32 PM Subject: Re: Medic First off, I'm absolutely not questioning your readings George - but I find it really odd that the only chart in the service manual that indicates voltages for the TPS shows at full closed, the TPS should give 0 volts (?)... at 45% - 2 volts, at full open (125%) - 5 volts - linear results. This chart show nothing about RPM. This chart is on page II-12. -Sven the broken TPS man. paramithas wrote: Sven the rest of the GTSers, here's the differences in part numbers when opening both the 93 and 94 ECU boxes to compare parts (i.e E-Prom). Whom ever can make heads or tales on the specifics of these parts please enlighten. 93 ECU 112100-0040 12V TBDF03 D ND MG2530 (ND=DENSO the ECU manufacturer I assume) 1N11B 94 ECU 112100-0050 12V TBDF04 E D MG3840 (don't know which manufacturer D is) 1R09B And now for the TPS voltage measurements at the 6 different RPMs between which the dreaded surging occurs (BTW Sven your measured values are too high). The ECU pots were all set at the 1:00 o'clock position and TPS was set close to the full clockwise setting. I will next try a different TPS setting (I expect the voltage values to be different (lower) but the voltage delta between the 6 different RPMs to be approx. the same). 93 ECU 0.811v @ 800RPM 0.863v @ 1,000RPM 0.898v @ 2,000RPM 0.916v @ 3,000RPM 0.957v @ 4,000RPM 0.986v @ 5,000RPM 94 ECU 0.815v @ 800RPM 0.867v @ 1,000RPM 0.925v @ 2,000RPM 0.940v @ 3,000RPM 0.982v @ 4,000RPM 1.000v @ 5,000RPM After physically testing both ECUs on my bike I can say that the mileage drops when using the 94 ECU by about 3-4MPG (93 ECU=40-43MPG, 94 ECU=37-40 max). And now for the seat-of-the-pants part of the test. The surging behavior I estimate to be about the same or maybe a tad bit less with the 94 but not worth the MPG penalty. The testing continues RSR... Guinea Pig George ___ Why pay for something you could get for free? NetZero provides FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html ___ Why pay for something you could get for free? NetZero provides FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: Test rode....
Ah, I feel good just reading about it!! Salivating George - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2000 11:07 AM Subject: Re: Test rode Did I mention the Hayabusa I installed the Yosh cams, power commander module and akropovich exhaust on? I saw 190 on the speedo. Meaning, the needle was pointing to 190, not just noticed they included it. That was power.. alas... still a suzuki. NetZero Free Internet Access and Email_ Download Now http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Request a CDROM 1-800-333-3633 ___
Blue Jay.....
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Re: Medic !!!!
It seems that there really are two RPM ranges @ which most GTSs surge, around 2,500 RPM around 4,500RPM. I can just about adjust the surge out of one of two ranges but not both. Glad to hear Fred that your adjustment has been successful, my next step is to balance the FI with gaugesif only time was abundantly available. George looking for time in all the wrong places - Original Message - From: fred schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 2:31 AM Subject: Re: Medic This weekend I experimented with the TPS. I first put it on 0.625 V and put the ECU pots at 1 o'clock. The bike surged now not at low RPM's any more but a little at 3-400 RPM. Not a problem but I wanted better. Now I put the TPS at 0,644 and the surging is now completly gone. I just did a riding course and no surging at all. I also made a pemanent vacuumconnection. The hoses end above the airfilter so I don't have to remove the tank anymore to synchronise. Fred Schneider Holland I think he turned the TPS the wrong direction. George and I found if you followed the instructions from Robert Wilson's site, the bike is almost unridable. Rotating the TPS counter clockwise improves the low RPM surge. If you are in question, crank it all the counter clock wise, or anti clock wise if you are in Europe, and see if it rides better. NetZero Free Internet Access and Email_ Download Now http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Request a CDROM 1-800-333-3633 ___
Re: Test rode....
Sure it does...'till you compare the handling with lets say an XX und then my dea feller all bets are off. The GTS is a handler no doubt and very forgiving at that but the Black Bird is...well let me say it once more "You think, it does". George the bird of different feathers - Original Message - From: Hawkins, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 10:50 AM Subject: RE: Test rode This lightens the steering significantly. ___ Why pay for something you could get for free? NetZero provides FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: Medic !!!!
OK Sven I did read up and on page II-94 Yamaha gives you the sensor values at full open and closed positions...only the values are in ohms not volts (and don't forget to turn the bike off and remove the connector). Did you do this measurements when checking your old TPS? As for the graph on II-12 I don't even know if that's of any use, can't even read the damn values. Yamaha ought to be ashamed with the graphical condition of this hea so called technical manual. Also, did you check the sensor coming out the cat before you ordered the TPS? It could also be a culprit. That's all for now. George - Original Message - From: Steve Baglien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2000 6:32 PM Subject: Re: Medic First off, I'm absolutely not questioning your readings George - but I find it really odd that the only chart in the service manual that indicates voltages for the TPS shows at full closed, the TPS should give 0 volts (?)... at 45% - 2 volts, at full open (125%) - 5 volts - linear results. This chart show nothing about RPM. This chart is on page II-12. -Sven the broken TPS man. paramithas wrote: Sven the rest of the GTSers, here's the differences in part numbers when opening both the 93 and 94 ECU boxes to compare parts (i.e E-Prom). Whom ever can make heads or tales on the specifics of these parts please enlighten. 93 ECU 112100-0040 12V TBDF03 D ND MG2530 (ND=DENSO the ECU manufacturer I assume) 1N11B 94 ECU 112100-0050 12V TBDF04 E D MG3840 (don't know which manufacturer D is) 1R09B And now for the TPS voltage measurements at the 6 different RPMs between which the dreaded surging occurs (BTW Sven your measured values are too high). The ECU pots were all set at the 1:00 o'clock position and TPS was set close to the full clockwise setting. I will next try a different TPS setting (I expect the voltage values to be different (lower) but the voltage delta between the 6 different RPMs to be approx. the same). 93 ECU 0.811v @ 800RPM 0.863v @ 1,000RPM 0.898v @ 2,000RPM 0.916v @ 3,000RPM 0.957v @ 4,000RPM 0.986v @ 5,000RPM 94 ECU 0.815v @ 800RPM 0.867v @ 1,000RPM 0.925v @ 2,000RPM 0.940v @ 3,000RPM 0.982v @ 4,000RPM 1.000v @ 5,000RPM After physically testing both ECUs on my bike I can say that the mileage drops when using the 94 ECU by about 3-4MPG (93 ECU=40-43MPG, 94 ECU=37-40 max). And now for the seat-of-the-pants part of the test. The surging behavior I estimate to be about the same or maybe a tad bit less with the 94 but not worth the MPG penalty. The testing continues RSR... Guinea Pig George ___ Why pay for something you could get for free? NetZero provides FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html ___ Why pay for something you could get for free? NetZero provides FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: Medic !!!!
Sven the rest of the GTSers, here's the differences in part numbers when opening both the 93 and 94 ECU boxes to compare parts (i.e E-Prom). Whom ever can make heads or tales on the specifics of these parts please enlighten. 93 ECU 112100-0040 12V TBDF03 D ND MG2530 (ND=DENSO the ECU manufacturer I assume) 1N11B 94 ECU 112100-0050 12V TBDF04 E D MG3840 (don't know which manufacturer D is) 1R09B And now for the TPS voltage measurements at the 6 different RPMs between which the dreaded surging occurs (BTW Sven your measured values are too high). The ECU pots were all set at the 1:00 o'clock position and TPS was set close to the full clockwise setting. I will next try a different TPS setting (I expect the voltage values to be different (lower) but the voltage delta between the 6 different RPMs to be approx. the same). 93 ECU 0.811v @ 800RPM 0.863v @ 1,000RPM 0.898v @ 2,000RPM 0.916v @ 3,000RPM 0.957v @ 4,000RPM 0.986v @ 5,000RPM 94 ECU 0.815v @ 800RPM 0.867v @ 1,000RPM 0.925v @ 2,000RPM 0.940v @ 3,000RPM 0.982v @ 4,000RPM 1.000v @ 5,000RPM After physically testing both ECUs on my bike I can say that the mileage drops when using the 94 ECU by about 3-4MPG (93 ECU=40-43MPG, 94 ECU=37-40 max). And now for the seat-of-the-pants part of the test. The surging behavior I estimate to be about the same or maybe a tad bit less with the 94 but not worth the MPG penalty. The testing continues RSR... Guinea Pig George ___ Why pay for something you could get for free? NetZero provides FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Items for sale
Two of my friends have recently sold their GTSs and have items for sale. 1) Manual $40. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2) TWO GIVI luggage sets, wing rack and 3 bags (one set silver and one set anthracite). I will part with each set for $500 or best offer. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Non-profit George NetZero Free Internet Access and Email_ Download Now http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Request a CDROM 1-800-333-3633 ___
Re: ECU Failure (was Atlanta)
Steve, you are welcome to come up to my place but my weekends are next to impossible 'till August 27, since I will be out of town for the most part of August. I still think you ought to call me some evening this week, we may be able to isolate the problem over the phone. Your condition very much sounds like you may be activating via faulty electronics and/or other intermittent failure your GTS's rev limiter. So, make sure it's not a wiring harness/connector that's causing the break down and further look into the rev limiter's operation in the manual (and corresponding ECU failure codes). Secondly, measure at the TPS the voltages at different RPMs (digital voltmeter and a needle at the top of the connector does the job), it's a very straight forward thing to record voltage values @ different RPMs for comparison. BTW have you set the ECU pots to the 1:00 o' clock position? This would be a good starting point for your measurements if we were to compare readings. Thirdly, remove the IPS sensor from the air box make sure it works properly. If this thing is an airflow sensor and I've never done this so I am just guessing, you can create a stationary test set by using a fan, hair dryer or what ever else to try and simulate as close to real life conditions as possible. I assume you can at least measure the IPS's changing resistance and voltage output, (it's nothing more than a transducer, may even be replaceable with a variable resistor for testing purposes after you've established max/min values). BTW you could also connect your volt meter leads semi-permanently to the IPS and ride the GTS like that 'till you isolate the failure condition. Also, check both sensor connectors/wires for burned marks or broken wire strands within their insulation, your failure may be related to heat causing an imperfect component to fail. I would not recommend you replacing the ECU or the sensors yet since the failure may not be passive thus inducing the same failure to the new parts due to high voltage, reverse polarity, etc. You may even want to go looking into the ECU since it can very well be a partially seated component on the PC board (the intermittence of your condition points to such failure). Has anyone out there opened the ECU box for more precise guidance for doing this? One last thing and I know this sounds simplistic but for the record check your battery for soundability and for tight connections, including your voltage regulator to make sure it's not overjuicing the system. Not much else I can think off right now. George scratching his back side NetZero Free Internet Access and Email_ Download Now http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Request a CDROM 1-800-333-3633 ___
Re: Motor Cycle Oils
20W50 in the summer, 10W30 in the winter is a good averageunless you live in the North Pole. Bahama George - Original Message - From: Argo, Timothy D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 17, 2000 5:52 AM Subject: RE: Motor Cycle Oils snipSnip Do you run the 20w50 even when the owner's manual calls for 10w-40? Inquiring minds want to know.. IIRC the manual calls for 20w40. Did I read it wrong? Thanks Tim _NetZero Free Internet Access and Email__ http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: GTS vs K1200RS
I rode them both, the K1200RS I would say is lighter, much smoother delivery has a top speed edge due to its higher HP output but torque is a toss up. I'd take the GTS when it comes to handling and comfortand prise. Roberto at 130mph you had about 20mph more to go, you blinked that's why you got your hinney kickedthe two up deal is because of the RS's HP. Speedster George - Original Message - From: Loss, Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 10:50 AM Subject: GTS vs K1200RS The BMW should have the edge in 1/4 mile and top speed although it is close. The GTS and BMW weigh almost the same but the BMW has about a 20 rwhp advantage. I have seen published figures as low as 11.3 for the 1/4 for the K12. IN MOTO (an Italian magazine) had figures of 11.4 (400 meters) and 152 mph for the K12 and 11.8 and 141 for the GTS. In the real world though the difference is probably hardly noticeable. Joe. -Original Message- From: Alan Tooraen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 1:58 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: My GTS got hit !! #$%#!@ John, Competition Accessories has GTS parts. On another note I found out this weekend at the BMW national in Midland Michigan that the Russel seat man passed away about a week ago. Many people say that the Russel Day Long is the best seat ever made for long distance cycling. I have sat on a few and had to awakened after a few minutes. Now that what I call comfort. There were six thousand bikes at the BMW moa , and three 1993 GTS models., and one 1994 . My 1994 has color matched Krausers, and it drew a crowd . Many questions, and the comment that now that sounds like a motorcycle at idle. The new BMW bikes sound remarkably like giant two wheeled sewing machines at idle. Does anyone know if the K1200 is faster than a GTS ?? I know they claim a top end of 152 on the K bike, but the quarter mile times were the same as a GTS , in the 11.70'S . K-1200'S have a six speed , so top end is not a fair comparison. I have pushed my GTS to about 140 down Big Bend Texas way with the bags back at the campground. I think it would have gone a bit faster, but I did not want to push my luck on a then new bike. Anyone have any top end figures?? Several K bike types had inquiring minds and wanted to know. For a 94 model bike to still have that much interest tells me we are riding way hip slick and cool machines!! Sincerely, Alan Tooraen NetZero Free Internet Access and Email_ Download Now http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Request a CDROM 1-800-333-3633 ___
Re: AMSOIL Motorcycle OIL
Louis, all their saying is "there's money to be made and we will tap into it come hell or high water" and "there's a bunch of dummies out there that would gladly pay more for less". I've used auto Amsoil for years on motorcycles with very good results (no burning of oil even on the GTS at high RPMs no clutch slippage). Their filters on the other hand I do not use. BTW thank you very much for volunteering your house for us to crash in but Marcia I already have made our hotel reservations. I sure would enjoy to see you though so please send me your phone number and I'll give you a call for specifics. Maybe we can get that Grefe character to join us.if his girlfriend allows it that is. George looking for love in all the wrong places PS Henry Kiko too bad you want be around but not to worry I'll catch up with you next time _NetZero Free Internet Access and Email__ http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: First Impressions
I'd have to dissagree with this one. Using the Pirelli's and Bridgestone BT57s I've not had a hands off decelleration wobble in years. I did with the Pirellis...but then again I'm known to create wobbles. Can you say BT57s? Stone George Bridge PS I'm getting ready to do a cross country on my RS/Bushtec-Bama to Boston to Bama- two up. Anyone interested in meeting for a brooski along the way? Dates August 4-13. Most likey stops Roanoke Va, New Hope Pa, Boston DC areaunless your offer's more tempting. NetZero Free Internet Access and Email_ Download Now http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Request a CDROM 1-800-333-3633 ___
Re: Windshield question to the List
hawke, I don't think there is such animal (quietest shield) for our bike. I've tried 3 different types with no stellar results. I also rode I friend's GTS who had the deflector on his stock windshield and liked it. It did make a difference with wind noise, it seemed to place the air over my helmet making it quitter. I run the German MRA?? I think, looks way cool and does a reasonable job at wind deflection. George 5'11'' - Original Message - From: John Laurenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 7:50 AM Subject: Windshield question to the List I'm looking for input on the quietest windshield set up. I can't seem to get the windshield king, Kevin, to respond off list. Has anyone used the little BMW deflector on a stock screen? Does it work? Does it add a lot of wind buffeting noise? Where do you get one if it does work? hawke NetZero Free Internet Access and Email_ Download Now http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Request a CDROM 1-800-333-3633 ___
Roberto...
...your zerozero e-mail's not working. Sent me a good one I have some choice words for you. George says "Earth to Spain come in please" - Original Message - From: Kevin Harrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 1:30 PM Subject: Re: Helmet thread... --- Brandon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I propose we let this thread rest. Obviously, there are strong feelings on both sides of the camp. If there is anything to say at all on this issue, I believe it would be that the loss of life in ANY situation is always a sad affair. (Motorcycle related, that is. No need to start another thread on that Texas thing.) Moving on, has anyone actually gone the other way with a chain/sprocket conversion to a smaller counter-sprocket and/or a larger rear sprocket? And if so, was there a significant increase in acceleration? You know, able to keep with those 'ratty' R1's? LOL Brandon I think Larry in Texas added some teeth to the rear. He's the one who needed some advice replacing the clutch basket and probably pushed the sport side of this bike pretty far. He may be off the list by now, as he is selling his GTS due to unforseen circumcisions... ;) Oy vey, Fla Kev __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ___ Why pay for something you could get for free? NetZero provides FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: Hoot Luncheon
Ok Bob I'll put ya on the spot. Which one did you like the best? George loves the month of Aprilcould this be fate I wonder? - Original Message - From: Burton, Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 1:31 PM Subject: Hoot Luncheon Test rode the ZX-12R, ZX-9R, ZX-6R, K12RS, Ducati ST4, Aprilia Mille Falco (hope you guys at lunch did get to see the Aprilia babe who also led the demo rides). Honda had the RC51 and 929 there but not for test rides so no Honda's ridden. Yamaha only brought the cruisers as usual. The wife thought the ZX-12R was fun, guess that was before I almost lost her off the back...So when's the next GTS gathering??? Bob B. _NetZero Free Internet Access and Email__ http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: GTS Chain size / GTS ...GPS and Radar detector mount
I just finished fabrication and installing my mount for my StreetPilot GPS and Valentine Radar detector. If anyone is interested I'm email a photo. hawke Lets post it at our new web site for reference, it sounds like a set up I may want to imitate. George ___ Why pay for something you could get for free? NetZero provides FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: website
Brandon, good job my man thanks for all your effort, I think this GTS site is gonna work out pretty well. Appreciative George - Original Message - From: Brandon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 2:45 PM Subject: Re: website Michel Bijl wrote: snip html/mime :^) I suppose you know this one already but still www.gts1000.com=20 Yep. I had actually considered getting that domain, it was available at the time I investigated this project. However, I felt the '.org' would be more appropiate as an 'organization' type of element. Typically, at least in the past, '.com' has represent commercial applications. I feel that we, as owners and as a group, would 'fit' better under the '.org' catagory. I also believe that the .com is a personal webpage. I have NO idea what he/she is planning to do with it. I decided to not play cybersquatting type tricks by tying it up also. (I finished a project a while ago helping to setup a premiere "domain name registrar", and I refuse to play those kind of tactics on the net. I worked with ICANN and WIPO and all the rest, and you would NOT believe the crap that goes on. Why there are people out there that are...uhwhoops. I'll save that diatribe for another time and forum.) :^) Anyway, live and let live! He'll/she'll get a link on the link page too! Hey! Why doesn't somebody email him/her and invite them to the list? Y'know, the more the marry her...uh... I mean...you know what I mean! Brandon (dodging bullets)* *TM-George Paramithas, Originator of the 'Speaking' tag line. Copyright 2000 and beyond...all rights, blah, blah, blah :^) _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: Helmet
- Original Message - From: Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pardon. "All the time I'm riding my motorcycle on the road." That better for you oh great English Professor? S/A #94 It might very well be better for him but I says, where else DO YOU ride yer motorcecle Wink and how? Inquiring minds want to know vat I's missing. Precision George nursing a single malt _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: Helmet
As for riding without a helmet, I think that it's not entirely fair to
have
a public health insurance, payed for by you as well, has to cover costs
made
for people that refuse to wear helmets.
Michel
Hey Buba, watch yer mouth boy, this hea redneck knows how to
drive.everybody crazy on MY road :-) Don't ya be telling me home grown
natin. You Euros think you knows it all but yous don't let me tel ya!
Alabama George
PS. Michel, my above ranting not withstanding, there is no public health
insurance in the good US of A. To each his own as they say since our system
is one of privatized health insurance only ('till you hit medicare age at
which time you're much too old to ride anything :-))
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Re: Helmets are for Intelligent Riders
The government does good things and bad things. Requiring that everyone have special insurance for any activity that they do, makes no sense. It makes a lot of sense if you are an insurance company and you have the lobbying power to get politicians to see things your way! They very much know that riders are no greater a risk so they will be glad to have us legislatively be forced to pay insurance premiums. It all makes a great deal of economic sensefor them. Also, found out today that Blue Cross Blue Shield is THE ONLY insurance company in my area that "IS ALLOWED BY LAW" to cover our company's and other companies I suspect medical needs. How's that for monopoly! I hate to admit it but Hillary's sounding better all of a sudden, so as to put a leash on these thieves. George believes in absolute self-determination and unlimited independence but always with personal responsibility. PS Still waiting on my BT57 after 10 days, you can tell it's beginning to piss me off. _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: Communicators
RSR if you want my 2 Chatter boxes (they are the older style but do include mikes ear pieces) they are yoursand the price is right $0.00 :-)) Let me know Santa George - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 10:49 AM Subject: Re: Communicators Good subject I am interested in obtaining bike to bike communicators, possibly with rider passenger intercom feature and even walkman connections. Anyone have any favorites? I heard from a shop I help at that the Chatter Box is not a quality piece. The parts department feels they get most of them returned, because they either never worked, or, do not have a reasonable range, which, seems to be line of sight. I have talked to other riders that say the later models of Chatter Box are much improved. Anyone Thanks, RSRBOB _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: copyright/here George goes again
Timothy, having done copyright work in the past, and as explained to me by a lawyer, the copying of copyrighted material is not illegal as long as it is not done for profit. For example if I make my own riding video and as background music I use a song from a CD I have purchased I am cool as long as this video is used for non-profit, and can show it or give it to friends with no legal ramifications. I believe intent to profit is the key here. George Lookass :-) - Original Message - From: Argo, Timothy D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 11:25 AM Subject: RE: copyright/here George goes again Sorry, I have to chime in. Seems to be some confusion between Patents and copyright. Patents are in existence to encourage public disclosure of new technology. The Government will give you a period of exclusivity (20 years) in exchange for public disclosure of how exactly the technology works. If Coke was patented instead of a trade secret the patent would have expired long ago and anyone could make a drink with the exact recipe. Copyrights on the other hand last a very long time (life of the author + 50 years, or if for works made for hire, 50 years from first publication or 100 years from creation, whichever is shorter) It is given to the author of any original work or expression. Further you can register your copyright which give you the ability to recover monetary damages. A copyright exists immediately upon production of any original work. Without registering it you can not recover monetary damages but you can have a court order anyone infringing your copyright to stop. Now the concept of fair use come in, if I buy a copyrighted product but want to make a copy for myself to safeguard the original, that is within my rights. If I wish to give a select few pages to another person, That is also within my rights so long as the portion I am distributing is a small subset of the original work. The concept is to protect the work from someone else copying or commercially using it. _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: service manual - cost of
I still say lets .pdf the damn thing already. I second thatas long as we all promise to keep Blue-Jay (as in bird brain) out of this. George the agreeable _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: Toronto this weekend/ GTS stuff
I'll steal a line from George P. Grant Gall trying to get those Americans fired up about hockey! You best watch yo seff boy, I copyright all my bla...bla I'll take you to court! George defending his turf And now for the GTS tec part. The 94 ECU on my 93 GTS, no matter what the settings, still causes worst surging than that of the original so, don't think that by simply going to a 94 ECU the surging problem will be solved, there's more to the story here. _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: Battlax report
You are wrong again my dear Richardo! Chapparel's where my price quote came from. BTW always stick with rubbers you can trust, especially when it involves wild ridding otherwise you can get yo self in a hell of a mess. Professor George - Original Message - From: Richard Lanouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 10:56 PM Subject: Re: Battlax report paramithas wrote: Not the same price, 57s are $90 the 010s are $110. Maybe you got a good deal on the BT-57 or somebody try to get to much money from your for the new 010. From Chapparal, Motorcycle accessorie warehouse and a local tire dealer the price is the same with a dollar or two. 'Till I see definitive proof that the 010s are better/longer lasting I'll stick with what I know works. That's not a good attitute comming from a guy with GTS, see what you whould have missed sticking with a motorcycle with forks. ;- ) Richard (defender of the Bridgstone and new technogie) George the parsimonious - Original Message - From: Lanouette, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 10:31 AM Subject: RE: Battlax report The BT-57 has been replace by the BT-010. A new and better tire for the same price. Richard -Original Message- From: paramithas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 10:20 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Battlax report Cording showing for sure and 6,292 miles is all I got out of the rear BT-57. Most all the miles were non-benign to boot :-)) Ahh it felt so good!! Bottom line I liked this tire so much a new one's on the way as we speak. One more thing, did my first wheely this weekend on the GTSnot much of one mind you but I wasn't trying either. 125 lb woman in the back, the Krausers loaded, going up the hill and giving it all it's got trying to keep up with a smart-ass on a super hawk, did the trick. So, whoever said it can't be done, think again. George with a raised front end _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Battlax report
Cording showing for sure and 6,292 miles is all I got out of the rear BT-57. Most all the miles were non-benign to boot :-)) Ahh it felt so good!! Bottom line I liked this tire so much a new one's on the way as we speak. One more thing, did my first wheely this weekend on the GTSnot much of one mind you but I wasn't trying either. 125 lb woman in the back, the Krausers loaded, going up the hill and giving it all it's got trying to keep up with a smart-ass on a super hawk, did the trick. So, whoever said it can't be done, think again. George with a raised front end _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: Battlax report
Not the same price, 57s are $90 the 010s are $110. 'Till I see definitive proof that the 010s are better/longer lasting I'll stick with what I know works. George the parsimonious - Original Message - From: Lanouette, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 10:31 AM Subject: RE: Battlax report The BT-57 has been replace by the BT-010. A new and better tire for the same price. Richard -Original Message- From: paramithas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 10:20 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Battlax report Cording showing for sure and 6,292 miles is all I got out of the rear BT-57. Most all the miles were non-benign to boot :-)) Ahh it felt so good!! Bottom line I liked this tire so much a new one's on the way as we speak. One more thing, did my first wheely this weekend on the GTSnot much of one mind you but I wasn't trying either. 125 lb woman in the back, the Krausers loaded, going up the hill and giving it all it's got trying to keep up with a smart-ass on a super hawk, did the trick. So, whoever said it can't be done, think again. George with a raised front end _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: Chain Lubrication (was Sudden buzz)
Who said anything about spraying it directly onto the chain? George the rag man _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: K N Part Number
Whaaat? The Stoney one gracing our list with his presence? This boy's a traitor yall, he's a Honda daddy now so don't trust his input...nor his judgement. George setting the record straight - Original Message - From: Jeffrey Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 5:11 AM Subject: Re: K N Part Number Hello All; Just thought I would chime-in. The part number for the K N rubber top oval filter is RU-2450. Hopefully this helps. Jeff Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/28/2000 7:09:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've replaced mine with individual KNs, they work great and there's no need for that huge air box occupying all that space. By the why what is the K N part number that you use? Ken _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: bar snake
SOLID handle bars did you say my dear Bob? George sharpening his drill bitalong with his brains - Original Message - From: gtsbiker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 10:16 PM Subject: bar snake Before everyone goes tearing off their bars getting the "bar snake" for the vibes, ya might think about the fact that our bars are solid, not hollow, so about the only way you could use the snake would be to wrap it around your wrist! HEY!!.. Maybe you could get it magnetized then it it would be like one of those cure all bracelets sold by the guys that sell snake oil!! HH...bar snake...snake oilI wonder? IMHO, Bob Taylor _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: Haya-GTS
Hugh that's my favorite bike color!! You lucky, lucky, lucky dog you! George green with envy - Original Message - From: Hugh Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 9:59 PM Subject: RE: Haya-GTS hehehe, I just put a deposit on a Blue 2000 'Busa so at least let me break it in before I break out the tool kit. On 30 May 2000, at 18:42, Loss, Joe wrote: Well would you mind just quickly swapping the engines over for us this weekend and report back how difficult it was... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 4:03 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Hugh, Just purchased the red Busa, looks great next to the GTS, but a very different bike. This is a very serious machine, and maybe the last of it's kind if the manufactures actually limit the cycles next year. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 12:15 PM Subject: Haya-GTS or GT-Busa ? Has anyone considered putting a Hayabusa engine into a GTS? The though has crossed my mind but since my bike is under warranty till May '02 I'm not gonna attempt anything that drastic yet. How difficult would the job be? Piece of cake for a good machine shop? Hugh Dreaming of 185MPH on his GTS This message was sent using Access1 Mail! http://www.access1.net _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: Leathers URL for George
Thanks for the info Stan. Do the pants zip to the jacket? George 44/34 - Original Message - From: S. Bodnar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 7:50 PM Subject: Re: Leathers URL for George Just an FYI on this subject. I just got a Jacket and pants from First Racing. The one page ad in one of the cycle magazines. The jacket is absolutely beautiful ! For $209 it can't be beat. The pants were $125 and are also excellent. Ordered them from Alamo leathers in Mechanicburg Pa. 717 737-1900. They were good about returns. I ordered a large 46-48 and medium 42-44. The medium was cut just right for me (long arms) 6'0 195. I sent the large back. Tell 'em Stan sent you. -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Leathers URL for George Date: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 3:15 PM George, I believe this is the place you seek. I've done business with them and highly recommend them http://www.newenough.com/index.htm Take care, Hugh _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: Cheap leather
I'll be damned if you didn't hit a home run Wild Bill! George tipping his hator better yet helmut to you - Original Message - From: wghalley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 6:48 PM Subject: Fw: Cheap leather George I think this is the site you were looking for. don't ever delete anything Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, January 20, 2000 12:25 PM Subject: Cheap leather Found another interesting web site via lurking on the ST list. I know nothing about this company except some STers are doing a group buy and the prices look pretty darn good. Check it out: http://www.linkamerica.com/mc.html _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: Honda Hoot Americade
Sounds like the makings of a GTS Hoot I meant gathering, since enough of you are going. So, if I can get away for a day or two where shall we all meet? Somebody that knows the area make it happen. George trying once more to do the impossible - Original Message - From: k9kiko [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 4:48 PM Subject: Honda Hoot Americade Hey GTS Fans, The Wife and I are going to the Honda Hoot on the Goldwing. staying at the Sleep Inn Biltmore. Look for the Jersey Tags, light green Wing. As for the Americade, might go up for the day. Met some great people last year (my first time). Rode around all day seeing Moose, Beaver and unlike Jersey, didn't see many cars or trucks, just alot of green and asphalt! Will be wearing my colors (Blue Knights). So long for now "CruzinTrooper" _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: Leathers URL for George
Not what I was looking for but it will have to do. George thanks ya my kind compadre - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 12:15 PM Subject: Leathers URL for George George, I believe this is the place you seek. I've done business with them and highly recommend them http://www.newenough.com/index.htm Take care, Hugh _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
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Re: Easiest Way To Change Air Filters
Mike, The only way that I know off to safely replace air filters is to take both side of the engine plastic off, including top and bottom. It sounds like a big task but after you've done it once you'll be able to do it blind folded in 5 minutes. Just be careful to remove all the screws so as not to crack or break the plastic. There's a gas vent hose on "gray glove compartment" you have to disconnect in order to remove it, it will become obvious once you do it. After you've removed the plastic body parts you will see the top of the airbox (black square looking thing). It is held down with 10-12 Philips head screws. Remove those, pull the top off and you will see the two filters which you will change out. I've replaced mine with individual KNs, they work great and there's no need for that huge air box occupying all that space. While there, change your spark plugs, they should be replaced once a year for good measure, even though mine looked brand spanking new after a year's use. The whole task should not take more then one hour. Hope this helps you George the wrench - Original Message - From: Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2000 7:38 PM Subject: Easiest Way To Change Air Filters GTS Brothers: What's the easiest way to get to and replace the air filters? I.e., I'd like to take off as few body pieces and parts as possible. I've never done it and I don't have a manual. Any help from the more mechanically gifted GTSer's would be greatly appreciated. Also, how long should a set of quality spark plugs last? (I'm preparing for a 10 day adventure and today I installed new rubber, changed the oil filter, replaced the brake fluid, and I replaced the chain and sprockets a couple of months ago.) Thanks again! Mike Cordon '94 GTS _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: Easiest Way To Change Air Filters
Stock's what I use. The rest's a lot of hype.maybe :-) As for the KN part number, it's all buried under plastic right now. Next time I'll strip her I'll let you know. George the old fashion - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2000 5:01 AM Subject: Re: Easiest Way To Change Air Filters In a message dated 5/28/2000 7:09:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: While there, change your spark plugs, they should be replaced once a year for good measure, even though mine looked brand spanking new after a year's use. The whole task should not take more then one hour. Hope this helps you George the wrench Do you use OEM brand plugs? Have you or has any body out there tried a platinum or split fire replacements that last longer? Ken Swartz _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: Corbin seat colors
I also had problems with Corbin, 'till got nasty called Mike Corbin himself, they bent over backward to please me including sending me a brand new saddle/backrest (within 2 days) while I had their old one. The trick here is always go to the top. I like the gray color with gray piping. George the pissy - Original Message - From: Jeff Kargel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 1:10 PM Subject: RE: Corbin seat colors I'm also not a big fan on Corbin. I ordered the Black and they sent me Grey, I called to get it changed they basically said tough you'll have to live with it. From: "Henry" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Corbin seat colors Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 15:36:11 -0400 (EDT) I'd like to give you my 2 cents on Corbin: don't waste your money. I think they are vastly over rated. I sent one back 3 times and they still didn't get it right. I gave up. I finally got a Russell Saddle and that was pretty good, though I had to send it back once for them to get it right. It was a lot closer to right than Corbin ever was. Regards, Henry S. Winokur 94 GTS1000, AMA, MRF, MD/MSF Certified Instructor West Bethesda, MD -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Loss, Joe Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 3:12 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Corbin seat colors I'm thinking about getting a Corbin seat, maybe in black rather than the standard grey. Kevin Hawkins, your old red GTS looks pretty slick with the black and red piping from the photos on your web site at least. What did it look like in the flesh? My GTS is red also. Any other opinions on the best seat colors for the red GTS? Cheers Joe. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: Tires Again
Finally back on line and good to be back on our list after a month from hell with my PC, looks like I got all the bugs out of the system. What did I miss on this hea list anyway? As for tires, BT57s are best for GTS. George is back and meaner then ever _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: Trip to N. Ga. area 4/14-4/16
Bob, Marcia has delayed here return and is flying back from Brazil the 13th instead of the 4th. I doubt she will be up to ridding the 14th but if she does we will see you there. As for me coming alone, Marcia and I have been away from each other 1.5 months so, I love you guys but not that much :-)). Best regards George "Burton, Bob" wrote: Trip is planned to the N. Ga. area on 4/14 until 4/17. Base camp will be in Blairsville Ga. again and we will arrive Friday afternoon/evening on 4/14. We're staying at the Best Western there in the center of town, phone number is 706/745-6995. Saturday will most likely involve a ride up to Deal's Gap and Sunday morning we'll be riding back to N.C. If you would like to go or meet us, email me direct and make YOUR OWN hotel reservations. Rooms are $45 per night. I hope many of you can make it. Thanks...Bob B. _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: AW: AW: Falling in love.....fluffy
If you don't like it, please refuse to visit oktoberfest. Joerg There's much to be said about Greek insanity but not partaking to "damn good beer" is definitely not my way of displaying it! George says prost hit me again :-)) _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: (For every one except Shawn) FLUFF
Notice I didn't say a word when George called someone "Numb Nuts" either. SP George called "himself" numb nuts. Come to the light SP (which I must assume stands for Slow Poke??) George tearing to shreds all comers _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Falling in love.....
.all over again, and no this is no fluff about my personal life so, here's the story. Last weekend I had the pleasure of taking a 2 day ride down to LA (Lower Alabama :-)) for a beemer gathering. My neighbor just bought a BMW 1200 RS, their flagship when it comes to sport riding/speed. I must say that after playing with it a while I was very impressed with its smoothens of ride. Numb nuts me finally felt like a smooth operator, the best part of the experience. Also, the gear box was precise and the power delivery very smooth and deliberate, but there still seemed to be a slight surge due to the EFI, I guess that's the nature of this hea beast. The 130 ponies didn't hurt me none either so, 135 came and went a few times bringing all sorts of emotions to my lonely heart. All in all it was a great experience for about an hour, the RS was a great bike but I was glad to get my GTS back. Ah here you is my trusty baby. I think I'll keep ya a while longer since you fit so well and I can still do things with you I can do with no other. Now how can I tickle your gear box, give you a few extra ponies, eliminate your vibes for my anatomy's sake and stop that back talking surge of yours. I know I can make you the best that's ever been if only I try hard enough. Yea I know it's my fault! George looking for a good finishing school _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: AW: Falling in love.....fluffy
Joerg Totally in love with his wife, bike and of course his even not too perfect child. Glad to see you back on the list Joerg. And as an honor to your previous effort, I must say that the 46L Krausers you got for me worked very-very-very well, especially when solo riding, I didn't know they were back there and with plenty of interior room to spare. You shoulda seen the sneak looks from the beemer folk all weekend. Which brings me to my next point, why can't you Germans build a decent looking motorcycle for God's sake? Joerg picking on Joerg _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: Falling in love.....fluffy
The GTS is so smooth and so good that it might become mundane at times. You need a Ducati or Triumph to keep reminding you how nice the GTS is!! Kevin Hawkins // Greensboro, NC The GTS is not smooth when compared to the beemer I thought I pointed that out already, numb nuts remember? George knows _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: GP 500 race video
Greg, what's it worth to you, since I recorded it for my viewing pleasure.and maybe yours. George really tagged you now eh :-) Greg Christopher wrote: ** Reply to message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, 21 Mar 2000 08:35:04 -0500 (EST) Hey if anyone knows how to get a video copy FIM South Africa GP 500 race, I'm interested! -Greg Tag- you're it. _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: abs and dot 4 fluids
Once a year per vehicle you silly guyth :-)) #0 SHAWN PEARSALL wrote: I thought it first Kev.but my kids where with me watching cartoons.pure thoughts.pure thoughts.. Sorry to hear ...it's only once a yearGeorge Dear #2 __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: abs and dot 4 fluids
Jim, brake fluid deteriorates quickly due to its water attraction and/or visa versa so changing front, back clutch fluid was the right thing to do. George the once a year man [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, I recevied my speedbleeders yesterday and changed the rear fluid last night. Tested the bike, brakes work perfectly. Saw all the flak from Yamaha last night. Can't believe some guys are still in business. The real reason I'm writing is that you should go ahead and change the front fluid as well. Mine was dark just like the rear. Then I thought of the clutch, changed it, and it came out black!!! The inside of the resevouir had a coating of black soot. Anybody have any ideas what caused this discoloration? Thanks for the input, Jim Hoetker in Louisville KY '93 24500 miles __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: Load of Crap from Yamaha!
Shawny, I always test independently my brakes, never had a lock up knock on Fred Grefe's head! I see Yami's crapola is still alive and well. As for your smart ass service guy giving you lip, send him my way I'll blast him with more than an e-mail. The list forced Yamaha into this policy and that's supposed to be bad? What about them selling defective products! I didn't see defects in our money when they accepted them. George a.k.a kicks like a mule (that's my Ingan name) TGIF yall! SHAWN PEARSALL wrote: Yup you guessed it.my bike is now back at the dealergood weather here so they tested the bike on dry pavement and gravel. Apply both brakes.abs works (he says). Use the rear brake, he can get the wheel to lock up...he calls Yamaha (Corp Engineering...then Cavenaugh...who now doesn't want to talk to anyone about this...he deferrs the technicians to the Regional Technician now handling the cases on a case by case basis.) Yamaha sayslocking up the rear wheel WITHOUT using the front brake will always cause the abs to lock up the rear wheel (or some line of shit like that). I say Bull Shit...this is not a linked abs system. it never did this before up until 10K miles, Yamaha RT says he will authorize the replacement of the unit, but what am I going to do for Yamaha after it doesn't change anything. My service guy indicated...Would I pay Yamaha $2,000 for the upgrade? Would I blast a message to the list indicating how wrong we really are for pushing Yamaha into this replacement policy? This is shit guys gal...if you can tell I'm pissed your right. I've been getting crap customer service from K-mart to Yamaha this week and this stuff really gets my goat. Here's what I need: Those people with the new HU's..please go try this test for usfind some slight gravel, lock up the brakes (both) to confirm your abs works...careful more back than front here) Then try just your back brakes...to see if the pulse or lock up. Keep in mind Yamaha is saying the rear wheel is "supposed" to lock up if only the rear brake is appliedI think this is crap Those without replacement units...try this as well...less see how much Yamaha really knows about their own technology Please prove me wrong Shawn P __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: A quick trip
Allan, if Huntsville's on your way (Alabama that is) stop by and see me. Plenty of room to crash and much beer to partake in. George rolling out the welcome mat Allan Parker wrote: Phil, I will probably two lane it to Denver, down the length of Tenn and across the Smokies to Spartanburg. Those mountains used to be my riding grounds and I'm looking forward to a visit. Allan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Allan, Your route fails to indicate how far south you'll be as you head east. You going to use I-10 at all, or be further north? If you head through Las Cruces let me know in advance and we'll work out something. Phil B. On Sat, 4 Mar 2000, Allan Parker wrote: This April 1st I am going to wander out of Utah and head to Spartanburg, S.C. then to Charlotte N.C. then Pamlico Sound, Norfolk, and around the east end of Lake Ontario and through Detroit. If that is not a run on sentence it's damn close. From Detroit straight up and over Lake Superior (weather permitting) then through the Dakotas, Yellowstone and home. Anyone on or about that route who would like to have a cup of coffee give me a ring. Allan __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: Kurt's fluff finale - Still not on topic!
Kurt, I am really very sorry to see an articulate member like you depart the list but alas, you will always be our very own monkeyon2wheels. I here by declare your moniker officially retired and placed on the center wall of the virtual GTS museum. George says watch them stumps [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few of you already know that I sold my GTS to a fellow from Calgary Canada. __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: ABS
I'll probably do that many miles this weekend with the GTS gathering in San Diego/Mexico. Oh hell!!! how I wish I was going, I hate yous guys. How's the riding in ol' Mehiko any way? George holding down the eastern, boring front while contemplating Daytona __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
[Fwd: To whom it may concern....]
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --8C0680F1504A7C9B49B4AE90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --8C0680F1504A7C9B49B4AE90 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Mozilla-Status2: Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:26:40 -0600 From: George Paramithas [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: To whom it may concern Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ... Tony Grafals says "I am selling my GTS. I will probably let it go for about $7,000 stock or about $8,000 with accessories (I have about $2500 to $3000 worth of accessories on the bike! Many of them are hard to get or no longer available). Or I will sell the accessories separate at the following prices (the ones without a price go with the bike regardless)" Tall Smoke GIVI Windscreen ($30) Short European Spec Windscreen ($30) Bagster Tank Bra and (2) Bagster Tank Bra Tank Bags (wine/gray) ($120) Vance Hines Exhaust SYSTEM with Carbon Fiber Canister (eliminates cat!) ($200) Corbin Seat ($200) Throttlemeister throttle lock ($75) Heli Bars ($100) KN Filters ($40) Scott Oiler ($50) Hi Intensity Auxiliary Lights ($30) GIVI Luggage GTS Mount and GIVI Wingrack (Grey) ($100) (2) 36 litre Givi bags (anthracite) ($300) (1) 50 liter Givi bag (anthracite) ($150) (2) GIVI wingrack turn signals ($10) NEW! in the box 530 Chain and sprocket conversion kit ($50) Pair of Stock GTS air filters new in the box ($40) HJC remote alarm system with shock sensor and starter kill ($40) Cigarette Lighter installed in glove box swing arm stone guards Soft touring grips Pirelli GTS tires with about 500 miles on them Bike has about 12,000 miles (and counting!) and is in very good shape. ***remainder of two year extended warranty! (about one year left) His cell number is: 205-422-8601 His email address is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or notify yours truly and I will pass on the message. George says don't shoot the messenger --8C0680F1504A7C9B49B4AE90-- __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: Oz:fluff
Marcia and I were at the Sydney celebration thanks CNN, very dear to my heart and boy did it rattle my memory banks form back when. We may show up at your door step one of these days, what says you Stoney one? Would that not be the trip to do on bikes? Kick back under the Ozi stars in Rob's spread with a glass of porto and a Cuban? Ah! George daydreaming before heading to the office PS Rob come to Bama and stay with me, I'll even provide a GTS for you to ride. I would say I'll introduce you to the eastern contingent but you can't count on anyone showing up. George the plug Rob Chapman wrote: Well, Happy New 2000 to everyone, and I hope some of you saw our Sydney Harbour and Opera House covered with fireworks and /or dancers! So who's coming to this wonderful country this year?? If you are, we'd love to meet youbut Australia is a huge place, and we need to be planned! My one contact through this list who I have met, via Mike Coan, was a fellow and his partner touring Australia, Roger and Lisa, who stayed for 2 nights on the ranch. We visited them in UK, and have just received a Christmas card, which also contained a wedding invitation!!! Be warnedI need to build up credits for when Margaret and I visit USA!! Regards, Rob Chapman __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: Gender respect (was: RE: Winter Ride)
In my experience, Kelly was a unisex name. Kelly, I think Don Jon's calling you a Hermaphrodite. Them's fighting words where I come from and it aint down under :-). George surprised at yall's mouth, this list is not dead after all. Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is kelly a cute Female biker? woohoo! :) Allen The last time I looked, I was male. And we treat our few female comrades with respect. Some yahoo in the Vmax club has driven away a couple of female Vmaxers with comments such as that. To lighten things up a bit, a true story: I was on a talk program (a precursor to the "chat room") years ago at school. Some guy logged on, found out my name and immediately started hitting on me. The dialog went like this: He: Do you wear sweaters? Me: No, I usually wear tight T-shirts, bra-less. He: What do you find interesting in a man? Me: Absolutely nothing. He: Then you're gay? Me: No, not at all. He: Hmm? Don't like men, not women, animals are just too kinky. . . Me: What's kinky for some isn't for others. . . I never told him a lie, but screwed with him for an hour. My friends who were watching this were in hysterics- They couldn't breathe they were laughing so hard. Needless to say, the guy wasn't pleased when I told him he was under a false assumption. :-) (btw, I got another free sample of pantyhose in the mail last week. *sigh*) -K == Kelly CashMain: 408-727-5497 Solid Data Systems FAX: 408-727-5496 2945 Oakmead Village Court [EMAIL PROTECTED] Santa Clara, CA 95051 www.soliddata.com == --_=_NextPart_001_01BF5949.8CCCB998 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN" HTML HEAD META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1" META NAME=3D"Generator" CONTENT=3D"MS Exchange Server version = 5.5.2650.12" TITLERE: Gender respect (was: RE: Winter Ride)/TITLE /HEAD BODY PFONT SIZE=3D2In my experience, Kelly was a unisex name.nbsp; But = every male Kelly I have met was a primo sample of manhood, someone you = did not want to f- with.nbsp; Therefor, I am refusing to mess with = Kelly.nbsp; I have not run into a gay male Kelly, or a wimpy male = Kelly.nbsp; And I have meet some primo female Kellys, and never an = ugly female Kelly./FONT/P PFONT SIZE=3D2H, I kind of like the name Kelly.nbsp; Sort of = grows on you./FONT /P PFONT SIZE=3D2Say Kelly, what are you doing Saturday night = ???/FONT /P BR PFONT SIZE=3D2Jon quot;having a sexual identity crisisquot; = Crisler/FONT /P PFONT SIZE=3D2-Original Message-/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [A = HREF=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]= om/A]/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2Sent: Friday, January 07, 2000 2:20 PM/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2To: Multiple recipients of list/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2Subject: RE: Gender respect (was: RE: Winter = Ride)/FONT /P BR PFONT SIZE=3D2Please forgive me./FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2It must have been a brown hair moment./FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2It wasn't meant to be disrespectful/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2Allen/FONT /P PFONT SIZE=3D2gt; -Original Message-/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; From: Kelly Cash = [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; Sent: Friday, January 07, 2000 9:54 AM/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; To:nbsp;nbsp; Multiple recipients of = list/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; Subject:nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; Gender = respect (was: RE: Winter Ride)/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; /FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; gt; From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; gt; Message-ID: = lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;/FONT= BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; /FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; gt; Is kelly a cute Female biker?nbsp; = woohoo! :)/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; gt; Allen/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; /FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; The last time I looked, I was male.nbsp; And = we treat our few female/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; comrades with respect.nbsp; Some yahoo in the = Vmax club has driven away/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; a couple of female Vmaxers with comments such = as that./FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; /FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; To lighten things up a bit, a true = story:/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; I was on a talk program (a precursor to the = quot;chat roomquot;) years ago /FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; at school.nbsp; Some guy logged on, found out = my name and immediately/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; started hitting on me.nbsp; The dialog went = like this:/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; /FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; He: Do you wear = sweaters?nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; /FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; Me: No, I usually wear tight T-shirts, = bra-less./FONT BRFONT
Re: Well Grounded!
Re: Well Grounded! Sounds strange for a subject line with regards to George P...but here goes anywayGeorge and Allan can you post this to the list as well (check it out winter southern riders...then report if this fix helps us out. No. Is George looking more grounded to ya now SA #2? George says you will always be # 2, no matter what it pertains to. __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: Max a Millenium!
Kurt Not totally a neanderthal. (C'mon someone, say something... help..) Yes, you most obviously are! George glad to be of help __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: Yamaha my Bike
Maxine, I've been doing some testing of my own on this surging problem and I also have experienced the higher RPM surging with a 94 ECU in place of my original 93 so, changing an ECU is not a cure all, as a matter of fact I think my original ECU was better behaved. How much surging are you getting with your bike (if you can at all quantify it) and have you tried adjusting for minimizing this abnormality? Maybe your 10% reduction is due to Yamaha's adjustment. If interested I can send you my complete log of what I have done so far and believe me I ain't though yet! George is the keeper of the holly ESU secret __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: About the MCN letter ABS
Yamaha lawyer: "Uh, no. We'll repair the ABS units voluntarily." NHTSA lawyer: "Thank you, have a nice day." Would you like a cappuccino while we are working on your brakes Yamaha asks. If this is not simplistic I don't know what is. No conditions, no compromises, no give and take right? Even if they do repair once what happens the next time? What will the next person we sell our GTS to do? Or are we all going to agree to retire our GTSs for trying to save lives. Yea that's it. If someone wants a lawyer, just lock up a brake and crash. Then you'll easily find one who wants to sue Yamaha Big Time. By pursuing this the way we're doing it, we may save Yamaha millions and maybe someone's life. I don't think asking them to fix my brakes is such a selfish idea here. -Jay Yea right, I am sure we are doing this to save Yamaha $ and other's lives!! I am sure we would be mobilizing if the part cost $20 instead of $2,000. I was once stopped by a cop and given a ticket for not wearing my seat beltI have an inherent antipathy to such measures but that's another story. Any way, with a pompous attitude his words to me were "I am trying to save your life" So I snapped back "I don't see you wearing a seat belt". He was a motorcycle cop! You should have seen that pissy face of his. Please don't take this e-mail personal guys, it's not meant to be. George bucking the system __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: bulb comparison/FYI
I have been using OEM but a step up from stock (85/120W) on both my bikes. Much more light output in front of the handle bars and bulb only costs $13. Now will the higher wattage damage the sockets? Only time will tell but my mind tells me NOT, especially if high beam low beam is alternated frequently during long trips. George says let there be light PS. Merry Christmass to all my fellow listers, including the ones I don't like, it's up to you to figure out who you are :-) Alan Tooraen wrote: Dave, this is my response to the test. From day one I have told people that I only sell Piaa bulbs because a lot of people ask for them . I have never sold the 85 watt variant that was tested in this test, but I can say that bikes equipped with the Piaa bulbs can be seen much better in the daylight because of the temperature of the light ( Piaa=3800 degrees kelvin vs 3200 degrees kelvin for standard bulbs). Since Stanley bulbs were not tested , and several of them do not have any coating or tint at all , I still firmly stand behind my assertion that they are superior to stock bulbs in every way except life expectancy. I think after reading this report I will stop selling Piaa bulbs . I currently use Stanley's in all my bikes and vehicles. Several other riders on the list that are use Stanley's will tell you the same thing about their performance compared to the stock GTS bulbs. Sincerely, Alan Tooraen Tankmaster Lighting Dave Biasotti wrote: Great links Fred - very authorative and informative. As indicated by Kelly, Greg my observations in our very subjective "lighting tests" there wasn't much difference - this just confirms it. I'ld be very interested in Alan Tooraen's comments, being a light distributor; at least his prices for the Stanley bulbs are reasonable at $40 it was worth a try. I guess this proofs the old axiom - you don't get more for free. -- Dave Biasotti Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 16:15:38 -0500 (EST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here is some info on the superwhite bulbs and why they aren't worth the money. I posted it a few days ago, but never saw it come through. http://lighting.mbz.org/tech/info/superwhites http://www.overboost.com/story.asp?id=102 Fred Grefe From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: ABS issue - George says...
..I am sorry for not participating in this ABS issue but believe me I have been very-very-very busy, hell I haven't even been ridding and that's a life requirement!! Before I go on I must say that due to good friends and fortune, Yamaha has been very good to both my RS and GTS. But since I am a member of this list you can add me to the ABS failures, lets say by proxy, since my hydraulic unit was also replaced but under warranty and prior to my purchasing the bike. Don't know if my thoughts will be useful but if I was the Cahoona of this list I would approach the ABS problem in the following manner. 1) I would make us an official club with bi-laws, elected officers and the like. Why? This will give us credence as a united and formidable group. It will also give Yamaha a focussed reference point to respond to. 2) I would write another letter (Yami did leave the door open in their response to us and BTW Hawk-man I believe you are reading what you expected and not what Yamaha really said since their answer was diplomatic as it should have been), short, concise and to the point. I.e. "what we request is not unreasonable so please help us out or else we have been authorized by our club members to go public and legally proceed if that becomes necessary. We sincerely hope it does not". The finer details of what constitutes failure, risk, normal tear and wear are for the shysters to figure out and no pun intended here for the latest version of the letter, it was well written but was also wordy. And when I say go public I mean cycle mags, mobilization of media outlets i.e radio, TV coverage in front of Yamaha dealers and picketing, not only NHTSA MCN . I know that's a bit much but if we are not so much committed to the cause why should Yami step up to the plate? Also, report our problem to the BBB of each and every city we live in, create so much bad press that it would be counter productive for them not to settle, and that's the bottom line. 3) I would collect signatures and a monitory commitment from all that are willing to participate in legal proceedings if that becomes necessary. It's either step to the plate or go away folks! 4) I would not reveal my cards to Yamaha via rambling ons on this list since it can easily be monitored by Big Brother (I know for a fact our Royal Star list is thoroughly sanitized by Yami doods) which means Yamaha already knows our quandary, confusion and future moves. That's why we must elect a prez and a VP to represent our club and leave it up to them to do the job. Any input that may be required by members can be had via private e-mails, if there is such thing, or phone calls. 5) I know it's a good chunk of money to have to spend on a new HU but after all the laws of physics are the laws of physics, even for almighty Yamaha. Therefore lets be reasonable, don't expect Yamaha to keep paying for ever 100% of all out of warranty failures. There's consumer protection laws out there that make provisions for arbitration (input needed here from our friendly GTS attorney members), but we first have to determine what's fair for both parties. It's 6:30 am, the java has run out and so have my opinions. It's back to laying hard wood floors for me and a back breaking job it is. Let me see can I ask God to replace my 44 year old lower back free of charge? Will he even bother sending me a rejection letter? Who can I get to arbitrate my cause, my namesake maybe? George giving yall food for thought __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: ABS issue - Yamaha's response (Letter to Editor suggestion)
Don't worry anyone. I save the foolishness, fluff and long-windedness for you guys. I write for my income. Kurt Oh hell we got us a pro, go get them Monky-man. George the cheer-leader has pom-poms and will travel...on a GTS :-) __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Warning on AMSOIL filters
As you all know I am a happy user of Amsoil products and a rep. I've used their filters on both my Volvo and Audi but never on my motorcycles. All I can say about their auto filters is that they do not have the exact size replacements which makes them harder to put on and off plus on my Volvo, the filter deteriorated prematurely since it did not hold pressure overnight. How do I know? The oil light would stay on more time than normal plus when I removed it on the last oil change there was no liquid in it. Could it be a aberration? Possibly but I've never had this aberration happen with OEM products. Can Amsoil be cutting corners to increase profit? I sincerely hope not because I would hate to have to second guess their oil quality. George Prometheus has provided all he knows on this subject "Henry S. Winokur" wrote: As for the oil filter, you can use the SDF-13, SDF-20 and SDF-36. The SDF-13 is an exact replacement. The SDF-20 is slightly wider and larger, and is designed for late model Acura Integras and Honda Civics and accords. The SDF-36 is like the -20, except slightly longer. Jon: Thanks for all your work on this. Have you checked your local Trac Auto for an oil filter wrench? I found an endcap type at my Trac for the Yamaha filter which I assume is equal to the SDF 13. One thing I had to do was open boxes, because the display had nothing to do with what was on the shelf. Henry S. Winokur '94 GTS 1000 AMA Lifer, MRF, MSF/MD MSP Certified Instructor West Bethesda, MD __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: Canadian Fluff
Keep yer stick on the ice. Spoken like a true Canadian eh! I wonder if those southerners know what we are talking about? S/A #10 Grant It's not that infamous frozen semi-erection you are referring to is it? I heard form reliable sources you Cans suffer from such conditions due to the cold. Obviously it's not only scoots you boys store for the long soft winters :- We southerners know the truth __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: ABS again
My rear brake is pretty useless also, since my ABS is trigger happy at the back. George using his front as often as possible "Hawkins, Kevin L, SITS" wrote: Really? The rear brake on my GTS is VERY strong. In fact it is the most effective rear brake I've experienced on any bike I've owned! Excellent feel, excellent power. The difference might be the pads. I'm using EBC black (Street Compound) and you're probably still on stock. I honestly can't remember how the OEM back pads felt years ago, although the OEM front pads were very good! The only problem I saw with the front pads was that they were semi-metallic which seemed to wear the rotors a bit. The EBC blacks are simple organic pads. Kevin Hawkins // Greensboro, NC AMA #609423 // [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/~raddboy Y2K Kawasaki ZRX1100 // '93 Yamaha GTS1000 -Original Message- From: Henry S. Winokur [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 4:56 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: RE: ABS again stuck into it. However, as long as you are aware the rear ABS isn't functioning, the bike still has arguably the best brakes around, Even though my ABS is functioning, or was the last time I tested it, I find the rear brake as close to useless as it can be. yes it stops, but I often wonder if this is what HD brakes feel like? Henry S. Winokur '87 Concours, '94 GTS 1000 AMA Lifer, COG #39, MRF, MSF/MD MSP Certified Instructor West Bethesda, MD __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: ABS, Cherohala?
One of the best you can ride!!! George doing it again real soon. Andy Perry wrote: The pistons are steel, mine were pitted, though not severely enough to warrant replacement. (since we can't get parts, anyway) The HU is a big block of aluminum the cylinders were OK. I just cleaned polished re-used all the same parts. My ABS has been working well since the rebuild. I didn't inspect the calipers or replace the hoses. BTW, Bill.. I ran into some beemer riders in Cherokee, NC weekend before last who were from Nashville aquainted with you. They said the Cherohala Skyway was a good ride. Has anyone else ridden this road? Looks like theres a good loop through Deals Gap to Maryville, then down to the skyway through to Robbinsville. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of wghalley Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 12:14 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: ABS A few thoughts on ABS repairs. If anyone has experience enlighten us. Since one the ABS fails there is no way to cycle the fluid - the longer it sits after failure the worse it'll be to fix cause corrosion will continue. I once drug a SOHC 750 four honda out of gross disuse resurrected it. The engine was fine but there was corrosion in the front caliper. The pistons (steel) could be cleaned brought back but the aluminum calipers were pitted. I honed then got it all to work but the pistons were sloppier than I liked. (I was still young enough to be immortal). For anyone who's done one - was there any pitting in the HCU? Which brings up one more point. Anyone who's HCU has failed probably ought to take a look at the caliper bores also. From personal experience, when brakes fail, they fail ON - think brake pad smoke - but if you can clean off the pistons prevent further damage it's time well spent. Would be very simple compared to the HCU. I'm guessing Yamaha used steel pistons, I haven't had mine apart yet. (Xmas-NY week vacation) Random jolly thoughts Bill __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: Krauser Bags - now fluff!
Engineering school in U of A was rated higher but that didn't stop me from partaking in the finer things of life. George always wears a party hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/19/99 4:09:04 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How does U of A sound to you? I attended school there 1978 Good man, George. ASU is a better party school, tho. Or wuz u tryin to lern sumpin? __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: Wine woods water tour. . . And new ride
If you think the Bay Area is the greatest place on this planet, you need to get out more often and for longer spells...i.e. abroad. George says BA's just OK. Mike wrote: I'm definitely interested in a similiar ride. I.e., two days, one night beginning and ending in the greatest place on the planet, the Bay Area. Mike Cordon '94 GTS Kelly Cash wrote: Sorry these were down for a while I switched ISPs and unfortunately became very lazy http://www.electronify.com/gtsride Greg, that's a TERRIFIC writeup! Thanks!! (I hadn't seen it before) It makes me want to do it again- Either host the same tour, or make another one. So I'm volunteering. How about next June? I've kinda got an idea of something that goes through King's Canyon, Lake Isabella. and around those parts. In between the Bay Area and L.A. What do people think? Interested in a big ride? Same as last one, or something like above, or something else? Let me know, -K = Mr. Kelly Cash / Chief Technologist MITS Unix Phone: 408-576-3663 Cadence Design SystemsFAX: 408-894-3400 2655 Seely Ave, Bldg 6, MS 6B1 Pager: 888-853-8860 San Jose, CA 95134email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: Homemade Electric Motorcycle clothing!
I'd love to do the GAP before the first snow but I have home repairs to content with. Saturday though about 10 of us are taking a long leisurely ride down to Tuscaloosa for some "Dreamland" barbecue ribs, the BEST in the world! 'Till then... .. George will have a serious drooling problem Steve Baglien wrote: George Paramithas wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Huh...nippy out? He meant nipply. And yes knowing Kevin Hawkins nipply's his favorite part.of the year. As for Kevin Harrington don't know him since he didn't show at Bikectober fest like he promised he would. That bastard! I hate it when that happens! I can't believe someone would say they were going to show up, and then not! :^) Perhaps we should try again it's suppose to be in the 70's in the NGM- deals gap area on Sunday! Oh, to you northerners (of which I use to be a part...) na, na, na, na, na! -Sven George getting even Huh, I always found george to be quite odd. __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: Supertrapp Exhaust
Thomas, don't know about the Supertrapp exhaust specifically but the oxygen sensor re-installation has been done before and is a simple procedure. Drill and tap or weld onto the new hardware making sure you remount the oxygen sensor in the same proximity as the original location. As for performance, the jury's out on this one. With that I mean there's more to performance than sheer speed i.e. the larger headers seem to make the bike less jerky but you get a flat spot at about 4K rpm. Stan has a point though about the VH, it looks cool but not much of a performer. George still trying to stop jerking [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone: i intend to install a Supertrapp 4:1 complete system on my 1993 GTS. I realize that I will have to lower the Muffler but I am unsure what to do with the Oxygen sensor. Any comments or suggestions about the sensor and this exhaust? Thanks, Thomas __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: Worth Waiting For? Fluff
Bill, lets not talk about GW riders and their "nationwide club" because then we'll have to discuss the mindset of belonging to a cult. Suffice to say they must be the only motorcycle group more arrogant than HDers. As for the overgrown part, they need a two wheeled station wagon to carry their plumpness. Hey!!! it just sunk in that Sven owns an HD and rides a GW, looks like he's damned for sure don't ya know. But you meet the nicest people on Yamahas. Hmmm where did I hear that before? George says this is only my opinion, I could be wrong 98 Yamaha RS 93 Yamaha GTS 93 Yamaha SA 2000 83 Yanaha R-7 wghalley wrote: Sven You're right Harleys are probably the worst, but a lot of bikes fall in this category. I bought my GTS last year with 3600 miles on it - six years old. Guy traded a 2 year old FZR on it, according to the paperwork. Why spend $10k+ on a bike you're only going to ride 600 miles a year? I've seen several gold wings averaging under 1K a year. Two of the guys I reide with have new wings, one with 730 miles, one with 14,000 miles - both new this summer. Hooters has bike night around here. typically get 125-150 bikes, almost all Harleys. The crowd is mostly fat 40 year olds in black dennin leather. The BIKE is supposed to make them tough 20 year olds. Asking a lot out of a bike. my cynical $.02 worth Bill -Original Message- From: Steve Baglien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, October 28, 1999 10:32 AM Subject: Re: Worth Waiting For? Shawn... You, like me, have completely missed the point. snip The motorcycle really isn't for riding for many of the guys (yes, I know that there are lots of REAL Harley bikers - those that like them because they like to ride them). The cycle is just another fashion accessory for their pretend "bad" persona. In this situation, the quality of the bike isn't an issue. -Sven __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Tires revisited
Well I heard all about it but didn't quite believe the BT57 120x70ZR17 would make such a difference with the front end but it sure does. And the tank slapping is all but gone for the firts time ever. So, Marcia's and my 700 mile ride to Daytona tomorrow should be a total pleasure. See ya at the tent. George the impressed __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: Ventura sport rack fluff don't ya know!
Jesse the body sure gets around :-)) George funning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have one as well and love it. Grant Gall Christopher Caputo wrote: Hi Guys, I just installed The ventura sport rack on the GTS , easy to install, with a nice streamline fit.Doesn't interfear with my krausers and looks pretty good, if I want more carrying capacity, I can get one of the pack systems.Today, I had to bring 2 library books back and bring a package to UPS, 2 bungee cords and I was on my way.Overall, a handy piece of hardware. Later, Chris __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: GTS at altitude (FLUFF!)
Well now Jaybird's got a sense of humor I see. George says welcome to the land of smiles :-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aha! Now we know why George's comments get so far off the track. He doesn't even ride a GTS. He rides a Dave. I suspenct there's a very different kind of list for that! In a message dated 10/3/99 5:40:59 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I ride a 93 Dave with relatively low miles NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: Trip to Lost Angeles (+ Del Mark Bike Show)/Fluffy and such...
You guys are being kinda fluffy on this oneso please use it on the subject matter. George sticking to the Magna Carta thing! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John, You're timing is excellent for one of Southern California's premier events, the Del Mar Mile and concours. It's a dirt track race, vintage bike meet and other stuff all in one taking place that weekend. Del Mar is just north of San Diego, just about70 minutes south of L.A. by I-405/I-5. And San Diego County has some of the best motorcyle roads on this particular planet. Check HTTP://www.vjmc.org/greg/oct_event.htm#9 for some additional info. In fact, how many GTSers are interested in attending the show and meeting up? Saturday works out better for me. On Sunday, there is an HSTA meet in Idywild, another really sweet ride up the local mountains near L.A. John (and anyone else), you're welcome to attend that and meet a friendly bunch of sport-tourers. And John, if those events don't give you enough riding around, there is the well known Angeles Crest and many nearby roads. Look for Highway 2 on your map and any off-shoot that looks interesting on paper is. Mulholland is another famous one, but is better for smaller bikes and in my book isn't as much fun. Feel free to email me off-list if you want specifics and are interested in meeting up at one or more of these events. -Jay In a message dated 10/1/99 7:04:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone know of some good or great roads, mountain cafes and interesting places or events to visit in Los Angeles? I will be there October 8-9-10. If anyone wants to get together for a ride, let me know. Please email off list. Thanks NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: Krauser Bags - now fluff!
How does U of A sound to you? I attended school there 1978 time frame and have fun memories from its prettier species. George reminiscing with a smile [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/19/99 12:22:37 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: with the large Krausers your GTS will be transformed to a refrigerator on wheels :-)) George with late breaking info That's not a negative, George. I live in Arizona. __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: Krauser Bags
Chris, sometime back I did all the legwork for the Krausers and had name/number of the dealer in Germany, problem is I can't find it now. Kevin, did you keep the info I sent you for Garret? In the mean time I will search my work computer and be back in touch. George the absentminded respectfully requests assistance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alright I was just having a little fun with the Oldsmobile crack. I still want/need info about the Krausers. Shoulda paid attention earlier when the information was flying all over the place. But I didn't. I had a Kaw Voyager a few years ago, and that ain't motorcycling any more than a gold wing is mc'ing. Thought about getting a R1100RT, but test drive turned out to be just as boring as the Kaw. Thought about getting a R1100RS, and it was a lot of fun, but it's $10,000. What I really like is what I already have...a '93 GTS. Just need to add the hard bags and I'll be set. Help? __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
