Re: ABS nightmare...
Since you're to replace your rear swingarm anyway, wouldn't it be cool to replace it with a VTR 1000 swingarm, there's someone around here who knows how to do so. Good luck, Michel - Original Message - From: Crisler, Jon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 9:47 PM Subject: RE: ABS nightmare... This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --_=_NextPart_001_01C01382.F4B59FD6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" There has got to be a crashed GTS somewhere that can donate a rear swingarm. It will cost you,but its got to be out there. Man, I would be so pissed at the dealer if that were me. Since MAY Geez-F-xmas. -Original Message- From: Thomas H. Keyworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 3:16 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: ABS nightmare... Speaking of ABS nightmares. first discovered the problem w/ mine back in Sep '99. Took it in in Oct for a top-end job, 4-1/2 months later (back-ordered rings...) they can't find what's wrong w/ the ABS, even after replacing everything. I needed the bike, so I took it back until they could figure out what to do. End of May I bring it back in to rebuild the suspension, and there it's been ever since. I've gone rounds w/ Danny in Customer "Relations" (800-962-7926), and Sol from the Warranty Dept was supposed to be working on it. The best Danny could do was to send my shop (Montclair Yamaha) an updated set of manuals - real good problem solver he is. Now, I just spoke w/ Montclair this morning and am just now being told that the bearings in the rear swing arm were so badly worn that they wore the bearing cup to an egg-shape. Needless to say they can't come up w/ another swing arm - which I find hard to believe since Japan was producing these bikes up until just last year. They seem to believe that the chattering and locking up of the brakes is not, in fact, faulty ABS but rather a result of the rear wheel chattering because of the worn bearings. 1) Yea, nea? Any opinions out there (I know, silly question). 2) Any rear swing arms available out there? 3) Word of advice - don't wait till you've got 170,000 miles before checking the bearings... (they were fine at 100,000, really!) Thanks, -T '94 GTS == Thomas H. Keyworth http://www.keyworth.net http://www.district37ama.org http://www.jpt-promotions.com == --_=_NextPart_001_01C01382.F4B59FD6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN" HTML HEAD META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1" META NAME=3D"Generator" CONTENT=3D"MS Exchange Server version = 5.5.2650.12" TITLERE: ABS nightmare.../TITLE /HEAD BODY PFONT SIZE=3D2There has got to be a crashed GTS somewhere that can = donate a rear swingarm.nbsp; It will cost you,but its got to be out = there./FONT/P PFONT SIZE=3D2Man, I would be so pissed at the dealer if that were = me.nbsp; Since MAYnbsp; Geez-F-xmas./FONT /P PFONT SIZE=3D2-Original Message-/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2From: Thomas H. Keyworth [A = HREF=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A]/FON= T BRFONT SIZE=3D2Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 3:16 PM/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2To: Multiple recipients of list/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2Subject: Re: ABS nightmare.../FONT /P BR PFONT SIZE=3D2Speaking of ABS nightmares.nbsp;nbsp; first = discovered the problem w/ mine back/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2in Sep '99.nbsp; Took it in in Oct for a top-end = job, 4-1/2 months later/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2(back-ordered rings...) they can't find what's wrong = w/ the ABS, even after/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2replacing everything.nbsp; I needed the bike, so I = took it back until they could/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2figure out what to do.nbsp; End of May I bring it = back in to rebuild the/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2suspension, and there it's been ever since.nbsp; = I've gone rounds w/ Danny in/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2Customer quot;Relationsquot; (800-962-7926), and = Sol from the Warranty Dept was/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2supposed to be working on it.nbsp; The best Danny = could do was to send my shop/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2(Montclair Yamaha) an updated set of manuals - real = good problem solver he/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2is./FONT /P PFONT SIZE=3D2Now, I just spoke w/ Montclair this morning and am = just now being told that/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2the bearings in the rear swing arm were so badly = worn that they wore the/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2bearing cup to an egg-shape.nbsp; Needless to say = they can't come up w/ another/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2swing arm -
RE: ABS Nightmare.....
Hey #1 Now that you've told good ol Nikki how to fix the pumpsHE DOES KNOW HOW TO REPAIR THEM! #2
Re: ABS Nightmare.....
Kevin, i worked for FJ1200 owners club on a casual basis , about 1+ years ago . And yes i did strip down and rebuild some ABS pumps but i wasn't the only person who stripped and rebuilt them. I wouldn't have rebuilt an ABS pump with parts missing . I couldn't have sent the parts you say i left out because i didn't have access to peoples names and addresses. I was offering Thomas my help to sort out his ABS fault , but he probobly won't want it now. I've been to your website and read through Rebuilding the GTS1000 ABS Pump , its great info for doing the job at home , anyone taking on this sometimes difficult task should visit your site first. One thing you may want to add to your site is that sometimes during the static ABS test (self-diagnostic test) a fault accures where the front brake line builds up loads of pressure, which causes the lever to extend fully and can blow the mastercylinder seals if you didn't hold the lever thightly enough, while someone releases the brake fluid pressure at the bleed nipple. Jest something to be aware of when doing the test. Poor service should always be highlighted on the list . May be it would be better for all listers if i go to read only mode from now on , for being connected to poor service. Nick T
Re: ABS Nightmare.....
Actually, I appreciate everyone's input. Re: rebuilding the ABS... though I'm sure it can be done, (those on this list are a GREAT resource for such things) my take on the situation is that as long as Yamaha has owned up to the responsibility of fixing it, I'd rather let them play w/ it. (Even though time frames have apparently never been mentioned). Re: taking it to an alternative shop... Montclair has been the only one willing to take care of this bike over the last four years or so. Took it in once to Malcolm Smith's down in Riverside to change the tires. When the mechanic responded w/ "GTS1000? Isn't that a Jet Ski?" I decided "Maybe not...". Fontana Honda/Yamaha seems more interested in Hondas, and Chaparrel over in San Berdoo well, 'nough said 'bout that. Basically I was making a plea for a rear swing arm, if any were available, either from salvage or our buddies over 'cross the Pond, since anything coming from Japan seems to be put on slow boat. I'll probably wind up taking it to a machinist and having it filled and re-bored as Bill suggested (Montclair also offered that as a possibility). I'm going over tomorrow and check out just how bad it is. Thing was, I never noticed a chattering of any kind - but it was always pretty squeaky, just never could find the source. Though I'm still not convinced this is the root of the ABS "problem" - There's a definite "klunk" and then the rear siezes when laid into. I'll be sure to keep everyone posted. Thanks for the help - and again, if there is a swingarm out there, please let me know. -T '94 GTS == Thomas H. Keyworth http://www.keyworth.net http://www.district37ama.org http://www.jpt-promotions.com == - Original Message - From: nicholas.threader [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 3:00 PM Subject: Re: ABS Nightmare. Kevin, i worked for FJ1200 owners club on a casual basis , about 1+ years ago . And yes i did strip down and rebuild some ABS pumps but i wasn't the only person who stripped and rebuilt them. I wouldn't have rebuilt an ABS pump with parts missing . I couldn't have sent the parts you say i left out because i didn't have access to peoples names and addresses. I was offering Thomas my help to sort out his ABS fault , but he probobly won't want it now. I've been to your website and read through Rebuilding the GTS1000 ABS Pump , its great info for doing the job at home , anyone taking on this sometimes difficult task should visit your site first. One thing you may want to add to your site is that sometimes during the static ABS test (self-diagnostic test) a fault accures where the front brake line builds up loads of pressure, which causes the lever to extend fully and can blow the mastercylinder seals if you didn't hold the lever thightly enough, while someone releases the brake fluid pressure at the bleed nipple. Jest something to be aware of when doing the test. Poor service should always be highlighted on the list . May be it would be better for all listers if i go to read only mode from now on , for being connected to poor service. Nick T
RE: ABS nightmare...
This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --_=_NextPart_001_01C01357.7318EDF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Yamaha Customer Service number 800/962-7926 Kevin Hawkins // Greensboro, NC [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/~raddboy Y2K Kawasaki ZRX1100 // '93 Yamaha GTS1000 -Original Message- From: Greg Christopher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 10:13 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: ABS nightmare... ** Reply to message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wed, 30 Aug 2000 16:39:41 -0400 (EDT) Alas, I was correct in thinking this was absolute bullshit. I have two recourses, as I see it. A) Pay on visa, then dispute the charge. B) Call Yamaha rep and tell them what happened. C)Some happy combination of the above two SO Who remembers the Yamaha service Rep's name/number? -Greg \|/ \|/ Greg Christopher ||[EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 4997683 PAGER: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/4997683 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why should I waste my time reliving the past when I can spend it worrying about the future? --_=_NextPart_001_01C01357.7318EDF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN" HTML HEAD META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" META NAME="Generator" CONTENT="MS Exchange Server version 5.5.2652.35" TITLERE: ABS nightmare.../TITLE /HEAD BODY PFONT SIZE=2Yamaha Customer Service number 800/962-7926/FONT /P PFONT SIZE=2Kevin Hawkins // Greensboro, NC /FONT BRFONT SIZE=2[EMAIL PROTECTED]/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/~raddboy" TARGET="_blank"http://www.geocities.com/~raddboy/A/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2Y2K Kawasaki ZRX1100 // '93 Yamaha GTS1000/FONT /P BR PFONT SIZE=2-Original Message-/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2From: Greg Christopher [A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A]/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 10:13 AM/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2To: Multiple recipients of list/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2Subject: ABS nightmare.../FONT /P BR PFONT SIZE=2** Reply to message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wed, 30 Aug 2000 16:39:41 -0400 (EDT)/FONT /P PFONT SIZE=2Alas, I was correct in thinking this was absolute bullshit./FONT /P PFONT SIZE=2I have two recourses, as I see it./FONT /P PFONT SIZE=2A) Pay on visa, then dispute the charge./FONT BRFONT SIZE=2B) Call Yamaha rep and tell them what happened./FONT BRFONT SIZE=2C)Some happy combination of the above two/FONT /P PFONT SIZE=2SO Who remembers the Yamaha service Rep's name/number?/FONT /P PFONT SIZE=2-Greg/FONT /P PFONT SIZE=2\|/nbsp; \|/nbsp;nbsp; Greg Christopher/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2nbsp;|nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; |nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; [EMAIL PROTECTED]/FONT /P PFONT SIZE=2nbsp;ICQ:nbsp;nbsp; 4997683/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2nbsp;PAGER: A HREF="http://wwp.mirabilis.com/4997683" TARGET="_blank"http://wwp.mirabilis.com/4997683/A/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; [EMAIL PROTECTED]/FONT /P BR PFONT SIZE=2Why should I waste my time reliving the past when I can spend it worrying about the future?/FONT /P /BODY /HTML --_=_NextPart_001_01C01357.7318EDF0--
RE: ABS nightmare...
I would try talk to them first and tell them that you have no intention of pay for the extra time. Then pay with visa and dispute. Visa is just going ask you if you received the service. They are not interested in getting into the middle of a dispute. I am sorry, I have those numbers at home. Kevin has them, Kevin is our hero! =) Enjoy, Garrett Welch Everett, WA "Trying to save myself but myself keeps slipping away" AMA#500406 http://www.imbc.org ICQ# 1730192 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://gtser.kendra.com -- From: Greg Christopher[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 7:12 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: ABS nightmare... ** Reply to message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wed, 30 Aug 2000 16:39:41 -0400 (EDT) Alas, I was correct in thinking this was absolute bullshit. I have two recourses, as I see it. A) Pay on visa, then dispute the charge. B) Call Yamaha rep and tell them what happened. C)Some happy combination of the above two SO Who remembers the Yamaha service Rep's name/number? -Greg \|/ \|/ Greg Christopher ||[EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 4997683 PAGER: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/4997683 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why should I waste my time reliving the past when I can spend it worrying about the future?
Re: ABS nightmare...
Speaking of ABS nightmares. first discovered the problem w/ mine back in Sep '99. Took it in in Oct for a top-end job, 4-1/2 months later (back-ordered rings...) they can't find what's wrong w/ the ABS, even after replacing everything. I needed the bike, so I took it back until they could figure out what to do. End of May I bring it back in to rebuild the suspension, and there it's been ever since. I've gone rounds w/ Danny in Customer "Relations" (800-962-7926), and Sol from the Warranty Dept was supposed to be working on it. The best Danny could do was to send my shop (Montclair Yamaha) an updated set of manuals - real good problem solver he is. Now, I just spoke w/ Montclair this morning and am just now being told that the bearings in the rear swing arm were so badly worn that they wore the bearing cup to an egg-shape. Needless to say they can't come up w/ another swing arm - which I find hard to believe since Japan was producing these bikes up until just last year. They seem to believe that the chattering and locking up of the brakes is not, in fact, faulty ABS but rather a result of the rear wheel chattering because of the worn bearings. 1) Yea, nea? Any opinions out there (I know, silly question). 2) Any rear swing arms available out there? 3) Word of advice - don't wait till you've got 170,000 miles before checking the bearings... (they were fine at 100,000, really!) Thanks, -T '94 GTS == Thomas H. Keyworth http://www.keyworth.net http://www.district37ama.org http://www.jpt-promotions.com ==
RE: ABS nightmare...
This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --_=_NextPart_001_01C01382.F4B59FD6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" There has got to be a crashed GTS somewhere that can donate a rear swingarm. It will cost you,but its got to be out there. Man, I would be so pissed at the dealer if that were me. Since MAY Geez-F-xmas. -Original Message- From: Thomas H. Keyworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 3:16 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: ABS nightmare... Speaking of ABS nightmares. first discovered the problem w/ mine back in Sep '99. Took it in in Oct for a top-end job, 4-1/2 months later (back-ordered rings...) they can't find what's wrong w/ the ABS, even after replacing everything. I needed the bike, so I took it back until they could figure out what to do. End of May I bring it back in to rebuild the suspension, and there it's been ever since. I've gone rounds w/ Danny in Customer "Relations" (800-962-7926), and Sol from the Warranty Dept was supposed to be working on it. The best Danny could do was to send my shop (Montclair Yamaha) an updated set of manuals - real good problem solver he is. Now, I just spoke w/ Montclair this morning and am just now being told that the bearings in the rear swing arm were so badly worn that they wore the bearing cup to an egg-shape. Needless to say they can't come up w/ another swing arm - which I find hard to believe since Japan was producing these bikes up until just last year. They seem to believe that the chattering and locking up of the brakes is not, in fact, faulty ABS but rather a result of the rear wheel chattering because of the worn bearings. 1) Yea, nea? Any opinions out there (I know, silly question). 2) Any rear swing arms available out there? 3) Word of advice - don't wait till you've got 170,000 miles before checking the bearings... (they were fine at 100,000, really!) Thanks, -T '94 GTS == Thomas H. Keyworth http://www.keyworth.net http://www.district37ama.org http://www.jpt-promotions.com == --_=_NextPart_001_01C01382.F4B59FD6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN" HTML HEAD META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1" META NAME=3D"Generator" CONTENT=3D"MS Exchange Server version = 5.5.2650.12" TITLERE: ABS nightmare.../TITLE /HEAD BODY PFONT SIZE=3D2There has got to be a crashed GTS somewhere that can = donate a rear swingarm.nbsp; It will cost you,but its got to be out = there./FONT/P PFONT SIZE=3D2Man, I would be so pissed at the dealer if that were = me.nbsp; Since MAYnbsp; Geez-F-xmas./FONT /P PFONT SIZE=3D2-Original Message-/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2From: Thomas H. Keyworth [A = HREF=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A]/FON= T BRFONT SIZE=3D2Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 3:16 PM/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2To: Multiple recipients of list/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2Subject: Re: ABS nightmare.../FONT /P BR PFONT SIZE=3D2Speaking of ABS nightmares.nbsp;nbsp; first = discovered the problem w/ mine back/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2in Sep '99.nbsp; Took it in in Oct for a top-end = job, 4-1/2 months later/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2(back-ordered rings...) they can't find what's wrong = w/ the ABS, even after/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2replacing everything.nbsp; I needed the bike, so I = took it back until they could/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2figure out what to do.nbsp; End of May I bring it = back in to rebuild the/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2suspension, and there it's been ever since.nbsp; = I've gone rounds w/ Danny in/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2Customer quot;Relationsquot; (800-962-7926), and = Sol from the Warranty Dept was/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2supposed to be working on it.nbsp; The best Danny = could do was to send my shop/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2(Montclair Yamaha) an updated set of manuals - real = good problem solver he/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2is./FONT /P PFONT SIZE=3D2Now, I just spoke w/ Montclair this morning and am = just now being told that/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2the bearings in the rear swing arm were so badly = worn that they wore the/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2bearing cup to an egg-shape.nbsp; Needless to say = they can't come up w/ another/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2swing arm - which I find hard to believe since Japan = was producing these/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2bikes up until just last year.nbsp; They seem to = believe that the chattering and/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2locking up of the brakes is not, in fact, faulty ABS = but rather a result of/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2the rear wheel chattering because of the worn = bearings./FONT /P PFONT SIZE=3D21) Yea, nea?nbsp; Any opinions out there (I know, = silly question)./FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D
Re: ABS nightmare...
Hi Thomas, Re your ABS nightmare, I've stripped down quite a few ABS units , repaired them , and done fault finding, for the FJ1200 owners club, work shop( based in the UK ), in the past. If you would like to try and repair your ABS , i'am willing to give you any advice you need , to try and sort yours out. I'am sure other listers will give you advice as well should you need it, as there must be plenty of us who have had problems in the past. It may take a while doing it over the web , but its worth a try. So long as you get your bike back. atb Nick T
Re: ABS nightmare...
--- "Thomas H. Keyworth" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of ABS nightmares. first discovered the problem w/ mine back in Sep '99. Took it in in Oct for a top-end job, 4-1/2 months later (back-ordered rings...) they can't find what's wrong w/ the ABS, even after replacing everything. Snip all the horror Thanks, -T '94 GTS == Thomas H. Keyworth http://www.keyworth.net http://www.district37ama.org http://www.jpt-promotions.com == This sounds very familiar. If it is an option, run screaming to another dealer--you might still get the same service but at least the scenery will change!!! Concerning the back-order thing--this seems to be a common excuse but sometimes they wait on the rings (a GTS unique part, so maybe..) but then, when they finally get around to putting it back together, someone remembers you need new gaskets--oops! Now these are back-ordered. No real excuse for this, why must we wait on all the back orders seperately This is the shop's fault for poor planning, maybe Yamaha's fault for providing the magic book that estimates hours but NOT PARTS!!!(maybe it does and the service managers don't read it...) Two suggestions-- 1. Get with your regional service representative NOW! Buy him dinner, make him your friend--they are usually nuch smarter than the dealers! 2. Use the parts fiche/service manual to guesstimate the parts required and offer this list to the service manager @ your dealer. NO SENSE waiting 4 months on one back-order and then an additional month on a back-ordered part you knew you needed when you walked through the door 5 months earlier! Thanks for letting me rant, I was having a flash-back... Good Luck! FL Kev __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
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bikes up until just last year. They seem to believe that the chattering and locking up of the brakes is not, in fact, faulty ABS but rather a result of the rear wheel chattering because of the worn bearings. 1) Yea, nea? Any opinions out there (I know, silly question). 2) Any rear swing arms available out there? Well, I just ride 'em bikes, but if I was told that I'd probably go find a wheelbarrow to move all that bullshit. If the chattering was so bad to interfere with the ABS, then it wouldn't be the ABS what sent you into the pit lane in the first place, but that weird feeling of leaving home with a perfectly good pair of eggs and returning with an omelette, if you get my drift. Of course, this is just an opinion, I may well be making a complete fool of myself right now. In that case, undoubtedly one of the list mech-gurus will educate us both. As for the swingarm: all other failed, try that thingy called Europe. The GTS is still in my '2000 Yamaha brochure. Roberto.
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The Yamaha customer service rep's name is Jordan Cavanaugh and the customer service number is 800-962-7926. There is also an "other" number: 714-761-7435. SO Who remembers the Yamaha service Rep's name/number? -Greg
Re: ABS nightmare...
-Original Message- From: Thomas H. Keyworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, August 31, 2000 3:30 PM Subject: Re: ABS nightmare... snip the bearings in the rear swing arm were so badly worn that they wore the bearing cup to an egg-shape. Looking at the fiche this looks like a needle bearing (haven't had mine apart yet) so are they talking about the race or the swingarm part it fits into? I'll assume swingarm, since the other should be a simple replacement. Before I bought a new swingarm I'd either check their measurements myself with an inside micrometer or maybe a pair of calipers (calipers are easier, mikes are more accurate) or take the swingarm to a competent machinist have him check it. If it is actually worn ask a machinist about boring it oversize shimming it or having it plated / welded and machining it back to size. This kind of stuff is routine for industrial maintenance and for repairing classic / antique cars. This won't be cheap but I'd bet it'll cost less than a new swingarm. Bill == Thomas H. Keyworth http://www.keyworth.net http://www.district37ama.org http://www.jpt-promotions.com ==
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If they replaced EVERYTHING on the ABS and you still have problems, it is concievable it is something else. You are getting chatter on braking? Maybe a person riding by and locking the brakes in front of someone watching the swing arm movement would help isolate the problme
