Re: [guadec-list] Terms and conditions for registration

2010-04-10 Thread Dave Neary


Philip Van Hoof wrote:
 That's all I'm saying, is that when it comes to the financial outlay 
 security of the conference, I think there should be a registration fee,
 which should be waived generously. But the default option should
 definitely be pay the fee.
 
 No, the foundation is supposed to attract sponsors for the purpose of
 paying for that.
 
 If it fails at this, it fails at its purpose. And that means we have to
 start replacing the people that run it, instead of starting to ask
 registration fees at a conference that always worked fine the way it
 worked in the past.

I can run a conference with free entrance for 300 or 400 people, no
problem. 500 or 600, not so much. Organisational effort and costs go up
exponentially as the size of a conference increases, which is why OSCON
costs $750 to attend, in spite of being well sponsored.

Anyway - in the past, GUADEC has had a registration fee - it's been €30,
£30, and €50. Last year, there wasn't one, but there were no free
conference Tees either. So if you're saying that GUADEC should work the
way it has in the past, I answer Yes, absolutely, with a registration fee.

Cheers,
Dave.

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Re: [guadec-list] Talk Schedule

2010-04-10 Thread Dave Neary
Hi,

Christophe Fergeau wrote:
 Emmanuele
 suggested an alternate schedule which I like too, but which gives us
 less slots:

I like this too.

 9.30-10.30 first keynote
 10.30-11.00 break (people can talk, have a coffee, ...)
 11.00-11.45 talk slot
 11.45-12.30 talk slot
 12.30-13.30 lunch break (can also be 12.30-14.00)
 13.30-14.30 keynote
 14.30-15.15 talk slot
 15.15-16.00 talk slot
 16.00-16.45 talk slot
 16.45-17.30 talk slot
 
 If we can get 15 minutes more from somewhere, we can have 1 more slot
 in the afternoon.

The answer seems simple: 40 minute keynotes.

If you can have one one-hour plenary for lightning talks as well (in
addition to keynotes, but maybe if we have trouble finding keynotes we
can use lightning talks as one) that would be great!

Cheers,
Dave.

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Re: [guadec-list] Terms and conditions for registration

2010-04-10 Thread Diego Escalante Urrelo
Hi,

El vie, 09-04-2010 a las 14:17 +0200, Dave Neary escribió:
 
 Anyway - this discussion comes up every year when registration opens,
 please make sure that the €0 option is an exception, and not the rule.
 

This line is particularly harsh to my third world wallet situation, I'd
rather say please make sure that the €0 option is available and that
donations for random fees are still encouraged to everyone. :)

 
 I'm OK with a two-class society where people who pay more get a little
 more and people who pay nothing get a little less. Events cost money,
 and we have to pay for them somehow. I don't want to encourage people to
 think of the code they write or time they spend as payment for stuff
 they get off the foundation. This would be a Very Bad Thing.
 

The big majority does GNOME stuff because they enjoy it or because they
are payed for it, saying that we might have friends and colleagues
working and sharing time with us only because they might get something
out of it is a bit rude and far from reality.

It's not our job to police how honest is people when they sign up, or
ask everyone for explanations when they are working for a GNOME company
but they sign up as 0 €.

Take my case: I work for a GNOME company and I'll sign up for 0 €
because I'm pragmatically and statistically poor.
I use all my earned money to pay for tuition fees at university and when
GUADEC comes to pay for my not-so-cheap visa/s and taxes.

I don't think my sponsorship is a payment and I don't think I'm
cheating GNOME or GUADEC organizers. I'm sure others are in the same
situation, no matter how 20+ they are or for whom they work.


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