Re: [guardian-dev] ask Google to allow "Unknown Sources" on ChromeOS
On 01/09/17 14:00, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > ChromeOS (the OS for Chromebooks) now has a complete Android runtime. > There are also persistent rumors that Google is merging ChromeOS and > AndroidOS into a single system. The scary thing is that ChromeOS's > Android runtime does not allow users to install apps outside of Google Play. > > "Unknown Sources" is essential to a lot of the things that we do: > > * nearby app sharing like F-Droid, Zapya, Share-It, etc. > * alternative app stores like F-Droid and all those companies > * easy testing via direct APK install, Hockeyapp, etc. > * self-updating apps like Zom, Signal, etc. > > Anyone with a google account and an interest in keeping ChromeOS as open > as Android, please star this issue: > > https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=761329 > > .hc > I think Google is already well into using its monopoly to strangle out competitors and they're not going to reverse on that. Things like Doze mode and having to use Google Cloud Messaging to get any kind of usability are only marketed as benefiting users - the main beneficiary is Google. Non-Google apps are being pushed into second-class citizen status by making them appear unreliable. What I don't understand is why the alternate ROM suppliers don't seem to want to fix these shortcomings, either. I stand to be corrected, but I don't think CyanogenMod ever got around to providing the Ad-hoc Wifi API which Google refuses to provide, either. I think if we want to create freedom-preserving apps, we're going to have to encourage alternate ROMS and tell people to only buy phones which can be freed from Google's control. Then we still have to tackle the control from the baseband processor... -Kevin ___ List info: https://lists.mayfirst.org/mailman/listinfo/guardian-dev To unsubscribe, email: guardian-dev-unsubscr...@lists.mayfirst.org
Re: [guardian-dev] ask Google to allow "Unknown Sources" on ChromeOS
Mark Murphy: > On Fri, Sep 1, 2017, at 09:00, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >> Anyone with a google account and an interest in keeping ChromeOS as open >> as Android, please star this issue: >> >> https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=761329 > > In that issue, you state: > >> At the very least, make it available in "Developer options" or via networked >> ADB. > > However, neither "Developer options" nor networked adb are available > unless the Chrome OS device is in developer mode (which, as you point > out, is impractical for non-developers). > > What you want is for "Unknown sources" to be available in general, at > least in the Android 8.0 form (per-installer configuration). Yup, Android 8.0 Unknown Sources would be the best, I think. Those other options would be better than nothing. .hc -- PGP fingerprint: EE66 20C7 136B 0D2C 456C 0A4D E9E2 8DEA 00AA 5556 https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex=0xE9E28DEA00AA5556 ___ List info: https://lists.mayfirst.org/mailman/listinfo/guardian-dev To unsubscribe, email: guardian-dev-unsubscr...@lists.mayfirst.org
[guardian-dev] ask Google to allow "Unknown Sources" on ChromeOS
ChromeOS (the OS for Chromebooks) now has a complete Android runtime. There are also persistent rumors that Google is merging ChromeOS and AndroidOS into a single system. The scary thing is that ChromeOS's Android runtime does not allow users to install apps outside of Google Play. "Unknown Sources" is essential to a lot of the things that we do: * nearby app sharing like F-Droid, Zapya, Share-It, etc. * alternative app stores like F-Droid and all those companies * easy testing via direct APK install, Hockeyapp, etc. * self-updating apps like Zom, Signal, etc. Anyone with a google account and an interest in keeping ChromeOS as open as Android, please star this issue: https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=761329 .hc -- PGP fingerprint: EE66 20C7 136B 0D2C 456C 0A4D E9E2 8DEA 00AA 5556 https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex=0xE9E28DEA00AA5556 ___ List info: https://lists.mayfirst.org/mailman/listinfo/guardian-dev To unsubscribe, email: guardian-dev-unsubscr...@lists.mayfirst.org