Re: [guardian-dev] Fwd: [Pearg] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-rao-pitfol-00.txt

2019-11-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner 

https://guardianproject.info/2017/01/30/how-can-we-learn-without-watching/

https://guardianproject.info/2017/06/08/tracking-usage-without-tracking-people/

https://f-droid.org/2019/04/15/privacy-preserving-analytics.html

.hc

David Oliver:
> Hans, I think tracking this internet draft is "square one".  IETF has an
> official comment policy, open to all.   If GP have write-ups of any work
> we've done in this area, we can point this team in that direction.  I can
> help - if it's easier - just transmit this info when I meet the author at
> IETF in mid-Nov.
> 
> 
> David M. Oliver | david@g uardianproject.info |
> http://g uardianproject.info | @davidmoliver | +1
> 970 368 2366
> 
> 
> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 12:59 PM Hans-Christoph Steiner <
> h...@guardianproject.info> wrote:
> 
>>
>> In general, I think removing personal information from server logs is
>> something to get involved in. How are you thinking of working with them?
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> David Oliver:
>>> Would we have any interest in standards-related discussion relative to
>>> server log data anonymization?   See below for some new work starting up
>> on
>>> this topic in IETF.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> David M. Oliver | david@g uardianproject.info |
>>> http://g uardianproject.info | @davidmoliver |
>> +1
>>> 970 368 2366
>>>
>>>
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>>> From: Shivan Kaul Sahib 
>>> Date: Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 5:57 PM
>>> Subject: [Pearg] Fwd: New Version Notification for
>> draft-rao-pitfol-00.txt
>>> To: 
>>> Cc: , 
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Sandeep Rao from Grab, Ryan Guest from Salesforce and I have been
>>> discussing log data classification shortly after Ryan's presentation on
>> log
>>> data privacy at the IETF 104 PEARG meeting. This draft is a first attempt
>>> at exploring ways in which applications can tag log fields as containing
>>> personal information for further anonymization/processing.
>>>
>>> Sandeep will be presenting this draft at the upcoming IETF Singapore
>> PEARG
>>> meeting.
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message -
>>> From: 
>>> Date: Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 2:44 PM
>>> Subject: New Version Notification for draft-rao-pitfol-00.txt
>>> To: Ryan Guest , Sandeep Rao <
>>> sandeeprao.i...@gmail.com>, Shivan Sahib 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A new version of I-D, draft-rao-pitfol-00.txt
>>> has been successfully submitted by Shivan Sahib and posted to the
>>> IETF repository.
>>>
>>> Name:   draft-rao-pitfol
>>> Revision:   00
>>> Title:  Personal Information Tagging for Logs (PITFoL)
>>> Document date:  2019-11-04
>>> Group:  Individual Submission
>>> Pages:  6
>>> URL:
>> https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-rao-pitfol-00.txt
>>> Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-rao-pitfol/
>>> Htmlized:   https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-rao-pitfol-00
>>> Htmlized:   https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-rao-pitfol
>>>
>>>
>>> Abstract:
>>>Software applications typically generate a large amount of log data
>>>in the course of their operation in order to help with monitoring,
>>>troubleshooting, etc.  However, like all data generated and operated
>>>upon by software systems, logs can contain information sensitive to
>>>users.  Personal data identification and anonymization in logs is
>>>thus crucial to ensure that no personal data is being inadvertently
>>>logged and retained which would make the logging application run
>>>afoul of laws around storing private information.  This document
>>>focuses on exploring mechanisms to specify personal or sensitive data
>>>in logs, to enable any server collecting, processing or analyzing
>>>logs to identify personal data and thereafter, potentially enforce
>>>any redaction.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
>> submission
>>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
>>>
>>> The IETF Secretariat
>>>
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Re: [guardian-dev] Fwd: [Pearg] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-rao-pitfol-00.txt

2019-11-05 Thread David Oliver 
Hans, I think tracking this internet draft is "square one".  IETF has an
official comment policy, open to all.   If GP have write-ups of any work
we've done in this area, we can point this team in that direction.  I can
help - if it's easier - just transmit this info when I meet the author at
IETF in mid-Nov.


David M. Oliver | david@g uardianproject.info |
http://g uardianproject.info | @davidmoliver | +1
970 368 2366


On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 12:59 PM Hans-Christoph Steiner <
h...@guardianproject.info> wrote:

>
> In general, I think removing personal information from server logs is
> something to get involved in. How are you thinking of working with them?
>
> .hc
>
> David Oliver:
> > Would we have any interest in standards-related discussion relative to
> > server log data anonymization?   See below for some new work starting up
> on
> > this topic in IETF.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > David M. Oliver | david@g uardianproject.info |
> > http://g uardianproject.info | @davidmoliver |
> +1
> > 970 368 2366
> >
> >
> > -- Forwarded message -
> > From: Shivan Kaul Sahib 
> > Date: Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 5:57 PM
> > Subject: [Pearg] Fwd: New Version Notification for
> draft-rao-pitfol-00.txt
> > To: 
> > Cc: , 
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Sandeep Rao from Grab, Ryan Guest from Salesforce and I have been
> > discussing log data classification shortly after Ryan's presentation on
> log
> > data privacy at the IETF 104 PEARG meeting. This draft is a first attempt
> > at exploring ways in which applications can tag log fields as containing
> > personal information for further anonymization/processing.
> >
> > Sandeep will be presenting this draft at the upcoming IETF Singapore
> PEARG
> > meeting.
> >
> > -- Forwarded message -
> > From: 
> > Date: Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 2:44 PM
> > Subject: New Version Notification for draft-rao-pitfol-00.txt
> > To: Ryan Guest , Sandeep Rao <
> > sandeeprao.i...@gmail.com>, Shivan Sahib 
> >
> >
> >
> > A new version of I-D, draft-rao-pitfol-00.txt
> > has been successfully submitted by Shivan Sahib and posted to the
> > IETF repository.
> >
> > Name:   draft-rao-pitfol
> > Revision:   00
> > Title:  Personal Information Tagging for Logs (PITFoL)
> > Document date:  2019-11-04
> > Group:  Individual Submission
> > Pages:  6
> > URL:
> https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-rao-pitfol-00.txt
> > Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-rao-pitfol/
> > Htmlized:   https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-rao-pitfol-00
> > Htmlized:   https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-rao-pitfol
> >
> >
> > Abstract:
> >Software applications typically generate a large amount of log data
> >in the course of their operation in order to help with monitoring,
> >troubleshooting, etc.  However, like all data generated and operated
> >upon by software systems, logs can contain information sensitive to
> >users.  Personal data identification and anonymization in logs is
> >thus crucial to ensure that no personal data is being inadvertently
> >logged and retained which would make the logging application run
> >afoul of laws around storing private information.  This document
> >focuses on exploring mechanisms to specify personal or sensitive data
> >in logs, to enable any server collecting, processing or analyzing
> >logs to identify personal data and thereafter, potentially enforce
> >any redaction.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
> submission
> > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
> >
> > The IETF Secretariat
> >
> >
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Re: [guardian-dev] Fwd: [Pearg] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-rao-pitfol-00.txt

2019-11-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner 

In general, I think removing personal information from server logs is
something to get involved in. How are you thinking of working with them?

.hc

David Oliver:
> Would we have any interest in standards-related discussion relative to
> server log data anonymization?   See below for some new work starting up on
> this topic in IETF.
> 
> Dave
> 
> David M. Oliver | david@g uardianproject.info |
> http://g uardianproject.info | @davidmoliver | +1
> 970 368 2366
> 
> 
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: Shivan Kaul Sahib 
> Date: Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 5:57 PM
> Subject: [Pearg] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-rao-pitfol-00.txt
> To: 
> Cc: , 
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Sandeep Rao from Grab, Ryan Guest from Salesforce and I have been
> discussing log data classification shortly after Ryan's presentation on log
> data privacy at the IETF 104 PEARG meeting. This draft is a first attempt
> at exploring ways in which applications can tag log fields as containing
> personal information for further anonymization/processing.
> 
> Sandeep will be presenting this draft at the upcoming IETF Singapore PEARG
> meeting.
> 
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: 
> Date: Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 2:44 PM
> Subject: New Version Notification for draft-rao-pitfol-00.txt
> To: Ryan Guest , Sandeep Rao <
> sandeeprao.i...@gmail.com>, Shivan Sahib 
> 
> 
> 
> A new version of I-D, draft-rao-pitfol-00.txt
> has been successfully submitted by Shivan Sahib and posted to the
> IETF repository.
> 
> Name:   draft-rao-pitfol
> Revision:   00
> Title:  Personal Information Tagging for Logs (PITFoL)
> Document date:  2019-11-04
> Group:  Individual Submission
> Pages:  6
> URL:https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-rao-pitfol-00.txt
> Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-rao-pitfol/
> Htmlized:   https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-rao-pitfol-00
> Htmlized:   https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-rao-pitfol
> 
> 
> Abstract:
>Software applications typically generate a large amount of log data
>in the course of their operation in order to help with monitoring,
>troubleshooting, etc.  However, like all data generated and operated
>upon by software systems, logs can contain information sensitive to
>users.  Personal data identification and anonymization in logs is
>thus crucial to ensure that no personal data is being inadvertently
>logged and retained which would make the logging application run
>afoul of laws around storing private information.  This document
>focuses on exploring mechanisms to specify personal or sensitive data
>in logs, to enable any server collecting, processing or analyzing
>logs to identify personal data and thereafter, potentially enforce
>any redaction.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission
> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
> 
> The IETF Secretariat
> 
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[guardian-dev] Fwd: [Pearg] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-rao-pitfol-00.txt

2019-11-05 Thread David Oliver 
Would we have any interest in standards-related discussion relative to
server log data anonymization?   See below for some new work starting up on
this topic in IETF.

Dave

David M. Oliver | david@g uardianproject.info |
http://g uardianproject.info | @davidmoliver | +1
970 368 2366


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From: Shivan Kaul Sahib 
Date: Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 5:57 PM
Subject: [Pearg] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-rao-pitfol-00.txt
To: 
Cc: , 


Hi all,

Sandeep Rao from Grab, Ryan Guest from Salesforce and I have been
discussing log data classification shortly after Ryan's presentation on log
data privacy at the IETF 104 PEARG meeting. This draft is a first attempt
at exploring ways in which applications can tag log fields as containing
personal information for further anonymization/processing.

Sandeep will be presenting this draft at the upcoming IETF Singapore PEARG
meeting.

-- Forwarded message -
From: 
Date: Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 2:44 PM
Subject: New Version Notification for draft-rao-pitfol-00.txt
To: Ryan Guest , Sandeep Rao <
sandeeprao.i...@gmail.com>, Shivan Sahib 



A new version of I-D, draft-rao-pitfol-00.txt
has been successfully submitted by Shivan Sahib and posted to the
IETF repository.

Name:   draft-rao-pitfol
Revision:   00
Title:  Personal Information Tagging for Logs (PITFoL)
Document date:  2019-11-04
Group:  Individual Submission
Pages:  6
URL:https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-rao-pitfol-00.txt
Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-rao-pitfol/
Htmlized:   https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-rao-pitfol-00
Htmlized:   https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-rao-pitfol


Abstract:
   Software applications typically generate a large amount of log data
   in the course of their operation in order to help with monitoring,
   troubleshooting, etc.  However, like all data generated and operated
   upon by software systems, logs can contain information sensitive to
   users.  Personal data identification and anonymization in logs is
   thus crucial to ensure that no personal data is being inadvertently
   logged and retained which would make the logging application run
   afoul of laws around storing private information.  This document
   focuses on exploring mechanisms to specify personal or sensitive data
   in logs, to enable any server collecting, processing or analyzing
   logs to identify personal data and thereafter, potentially enforce
   any redaction.





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