Re: Guile & Emacs chat at emacs hackathon/bug-crush SF
Mikael Djurfeldt writes: > This is wonderful news! :-) > > I've actually tried out guile-emacs recently. What would be wonderful to > have is some kind of simple "map" over what has been done so far (e.g. the > large-scale structure of the code and what the relationship between the > elisp and guile interpreter currently is). Maybe that exists and I didn't > find it? > > Best regards, > Mikael D. > > On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Christopher Allan Webber < > cweb...@dustycloud.org> wrote: > >> Heya everyone, >> >> I was at the Emacs hackathon / bug crushing event and I gave a couple >> demos that were Guile related, one showing off guile-emacs, and one >> showing off Guix's Emacs integration. So the good news is: the talk >> went super, super well (on both, but especially guile-emacs), and >> enthusiasm was high! When I showed guile-emacs live, there were some >> amazed expressions to see oh hey... this is *really* working! >> >> I also had a conversation with John Wiegley, current maintainer of >> emacs, and he said several things: >> >> - He thinks it would be *great* to have Emacs running on Scheme, a >>clear win, assuming it's integrated and runs fast and works well. >> >> - However, Guile would have to be able to make a promise: once Emacs >>ran on top of Guile, Emacs would have to be able to have say over >>anything that could end up changing actual semantics in Emacs >>(mainly, anything that would break Emacs user's source code). >> >>(I think there's an easy answer to this: guile-emacs is already >>aiming for heavy backwards compatibility and should just preserve >>that at this level.) >> >> - If we could prove that performance was better in guile-emacs, that's >>an easy way to win enthusiasm. >> >> - A good goal to work towards: all of emacs' tests should pass using >>guile-emacs. >> >> So that's all a ways off, but I'm feeling enthusiastic that it's >> possible! >> >> - Chris >> >> PS: I'd like to see bipt's elisp branch merged with master. I might try >> to help... I'm trying to learn enough to do so. However I don't have a >> lot of time, and especially not a lot of experience with compilers.. >> >> Hello, I only know the article in emacs wiki: https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/GuileEmacs especially the part 3 "Long Term Issues". Best Regards -- Stefan Husmann
Re: Guile & Emacs chat at emacs hackathon/bug-crush SF
This is wonderful news! :-) I've actually tried out guile-emacs recently. What would be wonderful to have is some kind of simple "map" over what has been done so far (e.g. the large-scale structure of the code and what the relationship between the elisp and guile interpreter currently is). Maybe that exists and I didn't find it? Best regards, Mikael D. On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Christopher Allan Webber < cweb...@dustycloud.org> wrote: > Heya everyone, > > I was at the Emacs hackathon / bug crushing event and I gave a couple > demos that were Guile related, one showing off guile-emacs, and one > showing off Guix's Emacs integration. So the good news is: the talk > went super, super well (on both, but especially guile-emacs), and > enthusiasm was high! When I showed guile-emacs live, there were some > amazed expressions to see oh hey... this is *really* working! > > I also had a conversation with John Wiegley, current maintainer of > emacs, and he said several things: > > - He thinks it would be *great* to have Emacs running on Scheme, a >clear win, assuming it's integrated and runs fast and works well. > > - However, Guile would have to be able to make a promise: once Emacs >ran on top of Guile, Emacs would have to be able to have say over >anything that could end up changing actual semantics in Emacs >(mainly, anything that would break Emacs user's source code). > >(I think there's an easy answer to this: guile-emacs is already >aiming for heavy backwards compatibility and should just preserve >that at this level.) > > - If we could prove that performance was better in guile-emacs, that's >an easy way to win enthusiasm. > > - A good goal to work towards: all of emacs' tests should pass using >guile-emacs. > > So that's all a ways off, but I'm feeling enthusiastic that it's > possible! > > - Chris > > PS: I'd like to see bipt's elisp branch merged with master. I might try > to help... I'm trying to learn enough to do so. However I don't have a > lot of time, and especially not a lot of experience with compilers.. > >
Re: Guile & Emacs chat at emacs hackathon/bug-crush SF
So even better news: I've successfully rebased BT Templeton's wip elisp branch on top of guile master... you can get it here: https://gitlab.com/dustyweb/guile/tree/merge-bipt-elisp-wip Maybe I should update the Guix package to make use of that?
Guile & Emacs chat at emacs hackathon/bug-crush SF
Heya everyone, I was at the Emacs hackathon / bug crushing event and I gave a couple demos that were Guile related, one showing off guile-emacs, and one showing off Guix's Emacs integration. So the good news is: the talk went super, super well (on both, but especially guile-emacs), and enthusiasm was high! When I showed guile-emacs live, there were some amazed expressions to see oh hey... this is *really* working! I also had a conversation with John Wiegley, current maintainer of emacs, and he said several things: - He thinks it would be *great* to have Emacs running on Scheme, a clear win, assuming it's integrated and runs fast and works well. - However, Guile would have to be able to make a promise: once Emacs ran on top of Guile, Emacs would have to be able to have say over anything that could end up changing actual semantics in Emacs (mainly, anything that would break Emacs user's source code). (I think there's an easy answer to this: guile-emacs is already aiming for heavy backwards compatibility and should just preserve that at this level.) - If we could prove that performance was better in guile-emacs, that's an easy way to win enthusiasm. - A good goal to work towards: all of emacs' tests should pass using guile-emacs. So that's all a ways off, but I'm feeling enthusiastic that it's possible! - Chris PS: I'd like to see bipt's elisp branch merged with master. I might try to help... I'm trying to learn enough to do so. However I don't have a lot of time, and especially not a lot of experience with compilers..
