Re: Rust freedom issue claim

[Bone Baboon]

Ludovic Courtès writes:
> Thanks for the detailed study and summary!

The conversation about the Rust Trademark policy issue has been
happening on several mailing lists and in different IRC channels.  I
decided to write a new summary that bringing it all together, adds new
information and cleans it up.

The summary is located at
.

The Git repository for the summary that can be cloned is at
.

There is also a website for browsing the source code at
.

Re: Substitutes from bordeaux.guix.gnu.org

[Christopher Baines]

Ricardo Wurmus  writes:

> Ludovic Courtès  writes:
>
>> BTW, did I mention we have budget?  :-)  Is there affordable POWER9
>> hardware we could purchase?
>
> Aside from that: do we have rack space for a POWER9 machine?
>
> For a limited time I could probably host it at the MDC data centre,
> but moving rack hardware to some other location is messy, so I think
> it should go straight to its final destination.

It would be good to discuss what the options are here.

The hardware can probably not be described as inexpensive, but it's also
quite capable so not much is needed.

Would trying to acquire a 2U rack mount server, and host it in a proper
data centre be feasible? Because of both electricity usage and heat
generation, it's going to be more difficult to host residentially I
think.


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Re: RISCV porting effort (now in stock @mouser)

[Gabriel Wicki]

So i checked mouser (europe) and it seems they have it in stock (361
in Munich right now). Not sure whether this was real i ordered one
and it seems it will be shipped next week.. Now i have to rush to
buy a case and a PSU (i already have a freedom respecting video
card) ;)

So everybody: if you want one: order now!


On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 04:20:42PM +0300, Efraim Flashner wrote:
> [...] but the lead time is still expected to be 6 months
> between ordering and shipping dates.
"Factory Lead Time" is still at about 6 months, but since the first
batch has not yet sold out... Also: if you ordered last November (in
reaction to SiFive's pre-order announcement) they already announced
first shipment to be no earlier than February.



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Re: Substitutes from bordeaux.guix.gnu.org

[Ricardo Wurmus]

Ludovic Courtès  writes:

BTW, did I mention we have budget?  :-)  Is there affordable 
POWER9

hardware we could purchase?


Aside from that: do we have rack space for a POWER9 machine?

For a limited time I could probably host it at the MDC data 
centre, but moving rack hardware to some other location is messy, 
so I think it should go straight to its final destination.


--
Ricardo

Re: Substitutes from bordeaux.guix.gnu.org

[Pjotr Prins]

Excellent!

On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 03:56:30PM +0100, Christopher Baines wrote:
> 
> Christopher Baines  writes:
> 
> > Christopher Baines  writes:
> >
> >> While I've been working on the software side of building things for
> >> substitutes through the Guix Build Coordinator for over a year now [1],
> >> I've only been personally pushing to bring the benefits to Guix users by
> >> default for the last few weeks [2].
> >>
> >> 1: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2020-04/msg00323.html
> >> 2: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2021-05/msg00020.html
> >>
> >> The strategy that currently seems most feasible is to add an additional
> >> default source of substitutes: bordeaux.guix.gnu.org.
> >>
> >> I think things are pretty much ready, you can find some information at
> >> https://bordeaux.guix.gnu.org/ . If you're up for trying out fetching
> >> substitutes from bordeaux.guix.gnu.org, now is a good time to do so, and
> >> please report back in terms of how it's working out for you.
> >
> > The patch to enable bordeaux.guix.gnu.org as a default substitute server
> > is available in [1].
> >
> > 1: https://issues.guix.gnu.org/48435
> >
> > I've created a wip-bordeaux branch [2] now which includes that patch,
> > plus a commit to update the guix package to build guix including it. I
> > think this will be helpful when testing the changes.
> >
> > 2: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix.git/log/?h=wip-bordeaux
> >
> > I've also drafted a blog post, which can be found here [3].
> >
> > 3: 
> > https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix/guix-artwork.git/tree/website/drafts/substitutes-from-bordeaux.guix.gnu.org.md
> >
> > If I can find the time to test things this week, maybe the changes in
> > #48435 can be merged on Friday. If anyone is up for testing things, or
> > reading through the blog post, that would be great.
> 
> These changes are now in master, and I've published the blog post!
> 
>   
> https://guix.gnu.org/en/blog/2021/substitutes-now-also-available-from-bordeauxguixgnuorg/
> 
> As said in the blog post, I regard this as an important milestone. As a
> change goes, the impact will be gradual, but I'm hoping in hindsight it
> will be a step forward.

Re: Substitutes from bordeaux.guix.gnu.org

[Christopher Baines]

Christopher Baines  writes:

> Christopher Baines  writes:
>
>> While I've been working on the software side of building things for
>> substitutes through the Guix Build Coordinator for over a year now [1],
>> I've only been personally pushing to bring the benefits to Guix users by
>> default for the last few weeks [2].
>>
>> 1: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2020-04/msg00323.html
>> 2: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2021-05/msg00020.html
>>
>> The strategy that currently seems most feasible is to add an additional
>> default source of substitutes: bordeaux.guix.gnu.org.
>>
>> I think things are pretty much ready, you can find some information at
>> https://bordeaux.guix.gnu.org/ . If you're up for trying out fetching
>> substitutes from bordeaux.guix.gnu.org, now is a good time to do so, and
>> please report back in terms of how it's working out for you.
>
> The patch to enable bordeaux.guix.gnu.org as a default substitute server
> is available in [1].
>
> 1: https://issues.guix.gnu.org/48435
>
> I've created a wip-bordeaux branch [2] now which includes that patch,
> plus a commit to update the guix package to build guix including it. I
> think this will be helpful when testing the changes.
>
> 2: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix.git/log/?h=wip-bordeaux
>
> I've also drafted a blog post, which can be found here [3].
>
> 3: 
> https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix/guix-artwork.git/tree/website/drafts/substitutes-from-bordeaux.guix.gnu.org.md
>
> If I can find the time to test things this week, maybe the changes in
> #48435 can be merged on Friday. If anyone is up for testing things, or
> reading through the blog post, that would be great.

These changes are now in master, and I've published the blog post!

  
https://guix.gnu.org/en/blog/2021/substitutes-now-also-available-from-bordeauxguixgnuorg/

As said in the blog post, I regard this as an important milestone. As a
change goes, the impact will be gradual, but I'm hoping in hindsight it
will be a step forward.


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