Re: GNU Mes 0.24.1 released

2022-10-24 Thread Efraim Flashner
On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 09:41:20PM +0200, Janneke Nieuwenhuizen wrote:
> Ludovic Courtès writes:
> 
> Hey!
> 
> > Janneke Nieuwenhuizen  skribis:
> >
> > This is exciting news!  Looking forward to having full-source
> > bootstrapped AArch64… and it looks like there’s already activity on a
> > ‘wip-’ branch.
> 
> Yes, it is!  The ARM bootstrap story is still a bit flakey, as
> stage0-posix does not support ARM.  So, ARM would need
> %bootstrap-mescc-tools and %bootstrap-mes binary seeds...meh.
> 
> However, aarch64-linux now bootstraps from 526 bytes all the way until
> gcc-core-mesboot 2,95.3.  Very nice!
> 
> We're still stuck at building a full gcc+glibc combo;
> glibc-mesboot-2.2.5 builds, but possibly not correctly; as the full
> gcc-mesboot0 (2.95.3) build fails at configure time: gcc-core-mesboot0 +
> glibc-mesboot0
> 
>?: 0 [execle "./gencheck" # "./gencheck"]
> ERROR: In procedure execle: Exec format error
> 
> Not sure what to do here.  We could somehow try to debug/bisect this.
> We could try to use a newer glibc; glibc-2.2.5 happened during the
> OABI/EABI switch and is heavily patched.  Or, we could try to remove
> glibc-2.2.5/gcc-2.95.3 altogether and aim for a direct tcc => gcc-4.6.4.
> We need to go that way anyway for RISCV.

I noticed that when offloading from my x86_64 box to my aarch64 machine
target gets (%current-system) from the originating system, not from the
system doing the building. I'm testing moving the '(let ((triplet ...'
code down from the top of the definition to inside the arguments. I
didn't see a difference with 'guix build -d' for x86_64 from x86_64, but
the derivation did change with the planned offload to an aarch64
machine.

I looked into gcc-2.95 more than I wanted to last week with GHC-4.08,
would it help if we specified we wanted armv4 or armv4t or strongswan
instead of "generic"?

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Re: GNU Mes 0.24.1 released

2022-10-20 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hi,

Janneke Nieuwenhuizen  skribis:

>> Janneke Nieuwenhuizen  skribis:
>>
>> This is exciting news!  Looking forward to having full-source
>> bootstrapped AArch64… and it looks like there’s already activity on a
>> ‘wip-’ branch.
>
> Yes, it is!  The ARM bootstrap story is still a bit flakey, as
> stage0-posix does not support ARM.  So, ARM would need
> %bootstrap-mescc-tools and %bootstrap-mes binary seeds...meh.

By “ARM”, you mean the 32-bit ARMv7 ISA, which armhf-linux targets,
right?  (AArch64, aka. ARMv8, is also “ARM”.  :-))

> However, aarch64-linux now bootstraps from 526 bytes all the way until
> gcc-core-mesboot 2,95.3.  Very nice!

Impressive!

> We're still stuck at building a full gcc+glibc combo;
> glibc-mesboot-2.2.5 builds, but possibly not correctly; as the full
> gcc-mesboot0 (2.95.3) build fails at configure time: gcc-core-mesboot0 +
> glibc-mesboot0
>
>?: 0 [execle "./gencheck" # "./gencheck"]
> ERROR: In procedure execle: Exec format error
>
> Not sure what to do here.  We could somehow try to debug/bisect this.
> We could try to use a newer glibc; glibc-2.2.5 happened during the
> OABI/EABI switch and is heavily patched.

This issue is on aarch64-linux?  What does “file gencheck” say?

> Or, we could try to remove glibc-2.2.5/gcc-2.95.3 altogether and aim
> for a direct tcc => gcc-4.6.4.  We need to go that way anyway for
> RISCV.

That sounds like the best approach longer-term, but possibly more work
than figuring out the issue above?

Thanks,
Ludo’.



Re: GNU Mes 0.24.1 released

2022-10-20 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Efraim Flashner writes:

Hi Efraim,

> On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 09:41:20PM +0200, Janneke Nieuwenhuizen wrote:
>
> Which hardware are you building on? On my pine64 I'm getting stuck at
> tcc-0.9.26-1134-g80114c4d
> On commit 519f4c8c9a0b191e9a447116685393c2fed4cd3b
>
> starting phase `build'
>   CCLD   mes-tcc
> mkdir -p 
> /gnu/store/d3kcgm0z3yyc7bplaacr7g0j8gk36h5j-tcc-boot0-0.9.26-1134-g80114c4d/lib/tcc
> rm -f crt1.o;
> cp -f /gnu/store/nli76zd955d9xksy01qrfzlizq4c28kd-mes-boot-0.24.1//lib/crt1.c 
> .
> crt1.c:149: warning: implicit declaration of function 'main'
> rm -f crti.o;
> cp -f /gnu/store/nli76zd955d9xksy01qrfzlizq4c28kd-mes-boot-0.24.1//lib/crti.c 
> .
> rm -f crtn.o;
> cp -f /gnu/store/nli76zd955d9xksy01qrfzlizq4c28kd-mes-boot-0.24.1//lib/crtn.c 
> .
> rm -f libc.a
> cp -f 
> /gnu/store/nli76zd955d9xksy01qrfzlizq4c28kd-mes-boot-0.24.1//lib/libc+gnu.c 
> libc.c
> error: in phase 'build': uncaught exception:
> srfi-34 # exit-status: 1 term-signal: #f stop-signal: #f] 10f6100>
> phase `build' failed after 21994.9 seconds

Oops.  Not sure what happened on my side, but yeah this error reproduces
for me.  I've pushed an updated tcc-boot0 to wip-aarch64-bootstrap.

Greetings,
Janneke

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Re: GNU Mes 0.24.1 released

2022-10-19 Thread Efraim Flashner
On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 09:41:20PM +0200, Janneke Nieuwenhuizen wrote:
> Ludovic Courtès writes:
> 
> Hey!
> 
> > Janneke Nieuwenhuizen  skribis:
> >
> > This is exciting news!  Looking forward to having full-source
> > bootstrapped AArch64… and it looks like there’s already activity on a
> > ‘wip-’ branch.
> 
> Yes, it is!  The ARM bootstrap story is still a bit flakey, as
> stage0-posix does not support ARM.  So, ARM would need
> %bootstrap-mescc-tools and %bootstrap-mes binary seeds...meh.
> 
> However, aarch64-linux now bootstraps from 526 bytes all the way until
> gcc-core-mesboot 2,95.3.  Very nice!
> 
> We're still stuck at building a full gcc+glibc combo;
> glibc-mesboot-2.2.5 builds, but possibly not correctly; as the full
> gcc-mesboot0 (2.95.3) build fails at configure time: gcc-core-mesboot0 +
> glibc-mesboot0
> 
>?: 0 [execle "./gencheck" # "./gencheck"]
> ERROR: In procedure execle: Exec format error
> 
> Not sure what to do here.  We could somehow try to debug/bisect this.
> We could try to use a newer glibc; glibc-2.2.5 happened during the
> OABI/EABI switch and is heavily patched.  Or, we could try to remove
> glibc-2.2.5/gcc-2.95.3 altogether and aim for a direct tcc => gcc-4.6.4.
> We need to go that way anyway for RISCV.

Which hardware are you building on? On my pine64 I'm getting stuck at
tcc-0.9.26-1134-g80114c4d
On commit 519f4c8c9a0b191e9a447116685393c2fed4cd3b

starting phase `build'
  CC tccpp.c
->type--: not a : (typename "BufferedFile")
->type--: not a : (typename "BufferedFile")
  CC tccgen.c
  CC tccelf.c
unexpected size:8
rank--: not a pointer: #< type: signed size: 1 description: #f>
rank--: not a pointer: #< type: signed size: 1 description: #f>
  CC tccrun.c
  CC arm-gen.c
unexpected size:8
  CC arm-link.c
  CC arm-asm.c
  CC tccasm.c
  CC libtcc.c
  CC tcc.c
  CCLD   mes-tcc
mkdir -p 
/gnu/store/d3kcgm0z3yyc7bplaacr7g0j8gk36h5j-tcc-boot0-0.9.26-1134-g80114c4d/lib/tcc
rm -f crt1.o;
cp -f /gnu/store/nli76zd955d9xksy01qrfzlizq4c28kd-mes-boot-0.24.1//lib/crt1.c .
crt1.c:149: warning: implicit declaration of function 'main'
rm -f crti.o;
cp -f /gnu/store/nli76zd955d9xksy01qrfzlizq4c28kd-mes-boot-0.24.1//lib/crti.c .
rm -f crtn.o;
cp -f /gnu/store/nli76zd955d9xksy01qrfzlizq4c28kd-mes-boot-0.24.1//lib/crtn.c .
rm -f libc.a
cp -f 
/gnu/store/nli76zd955d9xksy01qrfzlizq4c28kd-mes-boot-0.24.1//lib/libc+gnu.c 
libc.c
error: in phase 'build': uncaught exception:
srfi-34 #
phase `build' failed after 21994.9 seconds


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Re: GNU Mes 0.24.1 released

2022-10-19 Thread Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
Ludovic Courtès writes:

Hey!

> Janneke Nieuwenhuizen  skribis:
>
> This is exciting news!  Looking forward to having full-source
> bootstrapped AArch64… and it looks like there’s already activity on a
> ‘wip-’ branch.

Yes, it is!  The ARM bootstrap story is still a bit flakey, as
stage0-posix does not support ARM.  So, ARM would need
%bootstrap-mescc-tools and %bootstrap-mes binary seeds...meh.

However, aarch64-linux now bootstraps from 526 bytes all the way until
gcc-core-mesboot 2,95.3.  Very nice!

We're still stuck at building a full gcc+glibc combo;
glibc-mesboot-2.2.5 builds, but possibly not correctly; as the full
gcc-mesboot0 (2.95.3) build fails at configure time: gcc-core-mesboot0 +
glibc-mesboot0

   ?: 0 [execle "./gencheck" # "./gencheck"]
ERROR: In procedure execle: Exec format error

Not sure what to do here.  We could somehow try to debug/bisect this.
We could try to use a newer glibc; glibc-2.2.5 happened during the
OABI/EABI switch and is heavily patched.  Or, we could try to remove
glibc-2.2.5/gcc-2.95.3 altogether and aim for a direct tcc => gcc-4.6.4.
We need to go that way anyway for RISCV.

Greetings,
Janneke

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Re: GNU Mes 0.24.1 released

2022-10-19 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Howdy,

Janneke Nieuwenhuizen  skribis:

> We are happy to announce the release of GNU Mes 0.24.1, representing 23
> commits over five months by four people.
>
> Mes now supports the stage0-posix and M2-Planet Full Source bootstrap on
> Aarch64 for ARM.  Because stage0-posix does not support ARM yet, the Mes
> ARM bootstrap is currently prototyped on Aarch64.

This is exciting news!  Looking forward to having full-source
bootstrapped AArch64… and it looks like there’s already activity on a
‘wip-’ branch. 

Cheers,
Ludo’.