Re: [h-cost] lab coats
They were not mythical fourty years ago when my ex-husband was chief med-tech at a hospital lab. I made a half dozen of the miserable things but didn't have a pattern - just used an old one he had bought as a guide. He was very tall and thin and it was difficult to buy uniforms that actually fit him so I made his lab coats. Actually, they were rather spiffy looking, but he was a great looking guy and looked really good in white. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- "Susan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: "Susan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 17:12:32 -0700 To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [h-cost] lab coats I've seen in cartoons, and the like, pictures of an old style Laboratory coat (white, high collar, has a flap front that closes with buttons on the shoulder - tends to be slightly fitted). Does anyone know where I can find more information about these? Or even a pattern. Are they real or just a mythical garment? Susan ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] lab coats
At 06:05 PM 7/20/2005, you wrote: I don't suppose you're a Girl Genius fan, too? (Online cartoon with mad scientists.) Online??? Online I love Girl Genius, but I read the books my friend picks up for me. Are you saying that it is available online as well? OO. Kimiko ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] lab coats
It's not a nehru jacket? - Original Message - From: "Susan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 10:29 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] lab coats > > > Does anyone know where I can find more information about these? Or even > a > > > pattern. Are they real or just a mythical garment? > > > > A quick stab at Google and Froogle shows chef's double breasted chef > > coats which might be like this, although the early selections were too > > short. If you keep looking, you might find longer ones. > > No, it's close but they have two lines of buttons down the front and the > ones I am thinking of have one line or none. I was hoping there was a > history of lab coats website out there that someone knews about that I can't > find. > > > > I don't suppose you're a Girl Genius fan, too? (Online cartoon with mad > > scientists.) > > > Oddly enough, while I've known Kaja (and by extension Phil) off and on for > years I'm not a fan. > > This has two roots - one is that someone on another of my lists was asking > what a female doctor would be wearing in the 20's and I was wondering what > lab coats looked like then. And the other is that I've got a friend with > perfect mad scientist hair and I was thinking of offering to make him a > coat.\ > > But thanks, Susan > > > > -- > > Cynthia Virtue and/or Cynthia du Pre Argent > > > > > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] lab coats
> > Does anyone know where I can find more information about these? Or even a > > pattern. Are they real or just a mythical garment? > > A quick stab at Google and Froogle shows chef's double breasted chef > coats which might be like this, although the early selections were too > short. If you keep looking, you might find longer ones. No, it's close but they have two lines of buttons down the front and the ones I am thinking of have one line or none. I was hoping there was a history of lab coats website out there that someone knews about that I can't find. > > I don't suppose you're a Girl Genius fan, too? (Online cartoon with mad > scientists.) > Oddly enough, while I've known Kaja (and by extension Phil) off and on for years I'm not a fan. This has two roots - one is that someone on another of my lists was asking what a female doctor would be wearing in the 20's and I was wondering what lab coats looked like then. And the other is that I've got a friend with perfect mad scientist hair and I was thinking of offering to make him a coat.\ But thanks, Susan > -- > Cynthia Virtue and/or Cynthia du Pre Argent > > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: Pewter Replicas was Re: h-costume Digest, Vol 4, Issue 463
Spike's work is probably the best repro pewter around. He does all sorts of stuff (the apostle spoons are fabulous, as is all the jewellery) - and his stock goes up to the 18th century, although of course he takes commissions too. In pirates of the carribean it was spike's cutlery they shot out of the cannon (god, what a waste!) I always take some time out at the markets to drool over his stall!! Debs. PS the website is .co.uk, not .com (ie www.pewterreplicas.co.uk :-) ) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] lab coats
Susan wrote: I've seen in cartoons, and the like, pictures of an old style Laboratory coat (white, high collar, has a flap front that closes with buttons on the shoulder - tends to be slightly fitted). Does anyone know where I can find more information about these? Or even a pattern. Are they real or just a mythical garment? A quick stab at Google and Froogle shows chef's double breasted chef coats which might be like this, although the early selections were too short. If you keep looking, you might find longer ones. I don't suppose you're a Girl Genius fan, too? (Online cartoon with mad scientists.) -- Cynthia Virtue and/or Cynthia du Pre Argent About 1/4 of men and 1/6 of women leave a bathroom without washing their hands. So wash! And use soap. Just rinsing doesnÕt help, and in fact it hurts; wet hands are a great place for breeding more bacteria. -- The Bad Astronomer's Blog ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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[h-cost] lab coats
I've seen in cartoons, and the like, pictures of an old style Laboratory coat (white, high collar, has a flap front that closes with buttons on the shoulder - tends to be slightly fitted). Does anyone know where I can find more information about these? Or even a pattern. Are they real or just a mythical garment? Susan ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Harry Potter SPOILERS
I was surprised to find that I was far angrier over Snape (possibly) turning evil than over Dumbledore's death--one of my favorite parts of the series has been this character who by all that's reasonable SHOULD be evil, yet is able to put aside his intense hatred in order to do what's right; not only right for everyone in general, but right for the object of his hatred specifically. I thought it was incredibly brave of the author to create that sort of character in this kind of a book and I'll lose a lot of respect for her if Snape turns out to be truly evil. Bet he won't, though. The way that Dumbledore repeatedly made Harry swear to do whatever Dumbledore said, no matter how much danger that put Dumbledore in, makes me almost certain that Snape had promised the same sort of thing. Not 'please Snape, don't betray me,' but 'please Snape, do what you promised.' Snape's reaction to being called a coward by Harry seems to feed into this theory... obeying Dumbledore under the circumstances certainly wasn't a cowardly act. -E House ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: everything - newbie delurking
At 11:44 AM 7/20/2005, you wrote:
You can get away with a late 16th century doublet and shirt worn with the
Great Kilt - if he has a modern kilt he wants to wear for the wedding, you
can replace it with a Great Kilt (if he's brave) or hose for SCA use.
Jean
Mmm... great kilts. I so love a man who wears great kilts. That's one
reason why I married my husband. :-) Now if I could just get him to wear
them around the house or something. {sigh}
And there's one way to get a man to wear any kilt, great or modern. That's
to appreciate them fully while they wear it. Believe me, we used to have
loads of guys wanting to wear kilts at our various local faires because all
the women just went for the guys in them. Bonny Knees contests were very
popular. Ah, those were the days I miss, when I was young and ... well
young. ;-)
... but I digress.
There is a pattern from Folkwear patterns (#152) that includes the kilt,
shirt and jacket, but it is definitely modern in styling. I have never used
the pattern, and I've heard over the years that it wasn't worth getting,
but I am not positive why other than it was hard to follow.
Simplicity has #5029 (modern) and #8913 (faux historic), and the other big
companies may have something similar.
The great kilts we used in faire (theatrical use, not strictly period) were
hand pleated and belted onto the wearer every time (hint, use a weight
lifter's belt if they wear the kilt for very long. Helps the body
distribute the weight of wool better), and shirts were basic rectangular
shirts, although I did develop a kilt shirt that had a semi-fitted yoke,
and a long wide underskirting gathered to the yoke that helped prevent
chaffing under the wool; very helpful for those who went "regimental". I've
only recently found a similar type of shirt that was historical, but I
don't think it was Scottish (French, or Burgundian from an earlier time???
... I can't find that link anymore, grrr).
hth,
Kimiko
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Re: [h-cost] Pewter Replicas was Re: h-costume Digest, Vol 4, Issue 463
Thank you all for sharing your stories about Steve and his wife, not to mention the jewelry he makes. Thank you Suzi for mentioning Annie the Pedler as well. I am all to aware of how heavy metal jewelry will be for the hats, which is something I am very worried about. If only it could look like gold, feel like gold, but weigh as light as a feather. I do want a good reproduction of the jewelry that I intend on wearing, but for the hat I may have to go with something lighter, even if it isn't quite portrait perfect. I don't know if buckram and wire can hold up to several metal pieces... which makes me wonder how they did hold up to a lot of metal pieces, especially if they were really big gold "ouches" with stones as the portraits show. Is there a support under there that we are missing just looking at the hoods? I will keep looking around for my project, and see if I can find anything suitable for the French hood. Wish me luck! Kimiko ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: Ouches (was Elizabethan dress trim question)
This word appears in the King James Bible (Numbers, I think, in the description of the Ephod), with apparently the same meaning; so how's that for a source? Tea Rose Message: 5 Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 23:35:57 -0400 From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [h-cost] elizabethan dress trim question To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >Kimiko wrote: >> I also need "ouches" or > something similar for the hats I am working on > >OK, I'll bite- what are "ouches"? > -Helen/Aidan That's what the creator (Steve Millingham) of the jewelry replicas calls "dress jewels (ouches) ". I am not sure why he calls them that, as in I haven't seen a source for the name other than at his site. http://www.tudorjewels.com/princess%20elizabeth.htm First jewelry pic you come across. It's what I want for the jewelry I am looking to get. Steve Millingham got the word from my customer who got it from me, who got it from Annie the Pedlar who did the research for my Elizabeth figure. I imagine she has sources for it, as she did a great deal of research before making the jewellery for me. Suzi = KP wrote: > It's not just his term: > http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=ouch > Very cool. A new, accurate, but obsolete, word. Thanks, -Helen/Aidan ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] RE: Harry Potter SPOILERS and costumes
Well it sort of was on topic with D's robes.
I have a question. Do the movie costumes match the books' description?
They tried. But there's only so much you can do with words, a picture
traditionally being worth a thousand of them.
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Re: [h-cost] Jacobite/ Scottish (was - newbie delurking)
Jean Waddie wrote: I had a quick look through the main pattern companies, and was surprised that I couldn't find a generic "romantic" kilt outfit. I'm sure I have seen them - maybe it's the wrong season, maybe if you look back over the winter catalogues they might have something? There's Butterick 4486, which has those shirts with lacing up the front. It's new so it's probably still in stores. Simplicity put out a "Scottish" renfest set for men a while back, it's number 8913. I do not know if it is still in print. It's older and due to be pulled if it's not gone already. Simplicity 5029 is a recent pattern for a modern kilt, jacket, and sash. It should be available, if not it's worth contacting the company to see if they have any left in the warehouse they can sell you direct. Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] RE: Harry Potter SPOILERS and costumes
Well it sort of was on topic with D's robes. I have a question. Do the movie costumes match the books' description? De Who has not read any of the books, though loves the movies. -Original Message- Um, guys? can we please bring the posts back on topic to costuming? And thanks for changing the header. :-) S. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: everything - newbie delurking
Hi Annette, I'm assuming this is roughly the kind of look you're aiming for? https://www.geoffreykilts.co.uk/upload/tplt_test_.asp?page=212147 the "Jacobean outfit" (authentic? pah!) (The Jacobite rebellions were 1695, 1715 and, most famously, 1745. A "Jacobite style" shirt is generally floppy with a slit neck hole, laced across.) I had a quick look through the main pattern companies, and was surprised that I couldn't find a generic "romantic" kilt outfit. I'm sure I have seen them - maybe it's the wrong season, maybe if you look back over the winter catalogues they might have something? Otherwise you could probably do the shirt and doublet/jerkin/thingy from Butterick B4574, which is a pirate but similar http://store.sewingtoday.com/cgi-bin/butterick/shop.cgi?s.item.B4574=x&TI ='b4574'&page=1 (The one shown is about 2 sizes too big for the chap wearing it, I reckon!) You need to make the sleeve caps smaller, only about 3 inches wide at the shoulder. But as Kimiko says, this kind of thing really isn't authentic. The best thing is to look at the period sources and try to find a compromise between what is authentic and what your chap wants to wear. You can get away with a late 16th century doublet and shirt worn with the Great Kilt - if he has a modern kilt he wants to wear for the wedding, you can replace it with a Great Kilt (if he's brave) or hose for SCA use. Jean Kimiko Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote At 03:00 PM 7/18/2005, you wrote: Does anyone know where I can find a pattern for a Ghillie or "Jacobite" shirt or something of the sort (the more period appropriate the better), and a pattern for what is referred to as a 'Frontier' Gilet/doublet in the highland catalogs? Hello Annette, I am not sure about the rest of your questions, especially the costume books, as I have not read those nor is French my thing. However, on Scottish attire, that I know some things about, as I did 16th century re-enactment for a decade or so. Ghillies (or gillies), when not talking about a male attendant on a Chief, is generally talking about shoes. However, you asked about a "Jacobite" shirt as well, so I am not positive what exactly you are asking for. Were you asking about a shirt style? You also mention that you are interested in using the wedding outfits for SCA purposes afterwards. However, anything Jacobite related Scotswear is much later than 16th century, which is my understanding the cutoff points for SCA purposes (I am not in the SCA, but that was my understanding. Please correct me if I am incorrect.) I don' recall exactly the dates for the Jacobite rebellions, but I know there was a ban soon afterwards that is recorded in 1747 in my book. Do you have a specific time frame you are going for? As to a "'Frontier' Gilet/doublet in the highland catalogs", I couldn't even begin to guess what style exactly that would mean. Do you have an online link to something in mind? A picture would definitely help here. If you are interested in period history on Scottish attire, especially from the highlands, check your local or college library for _Old Highland Dress and Tartans_ by H.F. McClintock. This is a partial book of a larger book called _Old Irish and Highland Dress_ which also has a revised book that added something like _... and that of the Isle of Man_ or something like it. Any of the three will get you more info on Scottish attire from as early a written history as they had (very little prior to the 16th c., a smattering in the 16th c., and much more of later times). There are a few other books out there, but this was the one I used most frequently as McClintock quotes original works as much as possible. hth, Kimiko ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Jean Waddie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Harry Potter SPOILERS
Um, guys? can we please bring the posts back on topic to costuming? And thanks for changing the header. :-) S. - Original Message - From: "Dianne and Greg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 2:36 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Harry Potter SPOILERS > > - Original Message - > From: "Abel, Cynthia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 10:38 AM > Subject: RE: [h-cost] Harry Potter was: elizabethan dress trim question > > > > Warning: Spoiler for HP fans! > > > > I thought that immediately. Also Fawkes disappeared from Hogwarts after > > which is curious, seeing as there were wounded defenders. So we may be > > hearing more from D as he is the only wizard Voldemort(t is silent > > according to JK Rowling)that Voldemort fears. And what was in what D > > drank and insisted Harry make him drink it all, no matter what? JKR has > > always had D insist that he would trust Severus Snape with his > > life(possible multiple meanings here) > > Also note that, at D's funeral, Harry thinks for "one glorious moment" that > he saw a phoenix fly out of the flames around the tomb. > > > > > > On a costuming bent: always note that JK Rowling describes what the > > characters are wearing--what is the significance of D's robes? > > Rats, now I have to read it again, as I have forgotten the description of > his robes. Oh, the agony... > > Dianne > > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Harry Potter SPOILERS
- Original Message - From: "Abel, Cynthia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 10:38 AM Subject: RE: [h-cost] Harry Potter was: elizabethan dress trim question > Warning: Spoiler for HP fans! > > I thought that immediately. Also Fawkes disappeared from Hogwarts after > which is curious, seeing as there were wounded defenders. So we may be > hearing more from D as he is the only wizard Voldemort(t is silent > according to JK Rowling)that Voldemort fears. And what was in what D > drank and insisted Harry make him drink it all, no matter what? JKR has > always had D insist that he would trust Severus Snape with his > life(possible multiple meanings here) Also note that, at D's funeral, Harry thinks for "one glorious moment" that he saw a phoenix fly out of the flames around the tomb. > > > On a costuming bent: always note that JK Rowling describes what the > characters are wearing--what is the significance of D's robes? Rats, now I have to read it again, as I have forgotten the description of his robes. Oh, the agony... Dianne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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P.S. Anyone else wondering if Dumbledor was pleading with Snape not to kill
him or if he was pleading with Snape to kill him and maintain his cover?
Not wondering - think I know.
Was it really Sirius Blacks brother Regulas who stole the locket? Is it the
locket they found in the house?
Do Mr. Borgun's initials match?
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Re: [h-cost] Harry Potter was: elizabethan dress trim question
If you are going to put spoilers, please put several blank lines between "spoiler alert" and the spoiler, or else note spoiler in the subject, please. This is pretty standard practice on lists where spoilers are likely to occur. Thank you. Irmart (who can't get her copy until Friday!) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Harry Potter was: elizabethan dress trim question
Warning: Spoiler for HP fans! I thought that immediately. Also Fawkes disappeared from Hogwarts after which is curious, seeing as there were wounded defenders. So we may be hearing more from D as he is the only wizard Voldemort(t is silent according to JK Rowling)that Voldemort fears. And what was in what D drank and insisted Harry make him drink it all, no matter what? JKR has always had D insist that he would trust Severus Snape with his life(possible multiple meanings here) On a costuming bent: always note that JK Rowling describes what the characters are wearing--what is the significance of D's robes? Cindy Abel [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Pewter Replicas was Re: h-costume Digest, Vol 4, Issue 463
No criticism intended. The previous poster referred to a shop in Ludlow, which surprised me as I was only aware of the village workshop which isn't officially open to the public. I didn't attempt to make contact as I had only gone there out of idle curiosity, not to buy anything in particular. Kate Bunting Librarian and 17th century reenactor >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19/07/2005 23:01 >>> Hi, All. I can second Suzi's enthusiastic support of Spike (Steve) and his wife. He was kind enough to allow a random American reenactor to share his home (church) some years ago, and I am in awe of his skill in reproducing interesting historical items. I am also an avid customer of his. I was able to phone him when I visited, so perhaps he was away at an event that weekend, Kate? BTW, his spoons do enter into our period, and I think he still does his repro Charles I coin sets... Cheers, Mike T. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
