Re: [h-cost] Re: Rick Rack
Could someone explain what ric-rac is? It doesn't seem to be what I
understand. I have several cards of ric-rac braid I got in a sale, and
would use it to sew on to a garment for decoration. It was a very popular
trim in the mid 50's if I remember right - that's the 1950's! But ric-rac
involving crochet is a total mystery to me. Yet another example of two
countries separated by the same language?
Go here:
http://crochet.about.com/library/weekly/aa082600.htm
This article doesn't go back as far as the early 1800s, from where I saw my
earliest example of this stuff, but read it and learn what Fran wants to do
without crochet.
CarolynKayta Barrows
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[h-cost] American museum sale notice
UNPRECEDENTED TEXTILE COSTUME SALE Since Thanksgiving, 2004, Charles A. Whitaker and Karen Augusta have been in consultation with the Denver Art Museum to plan one the most important textile and fashion collector events in recent memory, the de-accession of a large portion of the Denver Art Museum's historic clothing collection. This vast collection, much of which has been unseen by the public for over fifty years, will be sold unreserved in a series of auctions run by the Charles A. Whitaker Auction Co. The first sale is to be held November 18th and 19th, 2005 in New Hope, Pennsylvania. The majority of lots for the fall auction come directly from the back rooms and storage facility of this important American museum. Museum de-accessions from The Philadelphia Museum of Art and the Fashion Institute of Design Merchandising and an important private collection of textiles and garments from the Chew family make up the balance of the 2-day, 1090 lot sale. The Chew textiles have been in storage since their removal from Cliveden Mansion, the 18th century National Trust property in Germantown, PA. This auction's offerings span three centuries of textile and costume history. Featured items include a Schiaparelli bead-encrusted jacket, a rare 1920's Chanel evening wrap, wedding shoes dated 1736, 18th 19th C. corsets, rare 18th 19th C. men's, women's and children's clothing, 20th C. couture designer clothing, a 17th C. woven Swedish Biederwind panel, as well as other textiles, fabrics, laces, table bed linens. Historians and costume collectors can now preview a photo gallery of sale highlights and the complete catalogue at the auctioneer's website, www.whitakerauction.com. A full day preview is scheduled for Thursday, November 17 from 1-6 PM. For additional information, catalogs, pictures, phone and order bids visit the website or call Charles A. Whitaker at 215-817-4600 or Karen Augusta at 802-463- A positive attitude may not solve all of your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort - Herm Albright ___ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: Rick Rack
I don't remember it in either my facsimile of Mrs. Beeton, or Therese de
Dillmont.
Wave braid crocheted together is really big in the 1880s, after Mrs.
Beeton's and M. Dillmont's time. Start looking for it then.
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Re: [h-cost] Re: Rick Rack
There are examples of edgings and collars made from waved braid in 1850s and 1860s editions of Godey's Lady's Book, Peterson's Magazine and other period magazines. I have several original mid-19th century garments with waved braid trim in my collection. Some are created with crochet, but two examples appear to be made with a needle-lace technique. I haven't found instructions for that technique so far, but I'm still looking. Carolann Schmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.genteelarts.com Ladies Gentlemen of the 1860s Conference, March 2 -5, 2006 I don't remember it in either my facsimile of Mrs. Beeton, or Therese de Dillmont. Wave braid crocheted together is really big in the 1880s, after Mrs. Beeton's and M. Dillmont's time. Start looking for it then. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: Rick Rack
Quoting Suzi Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Could someone explain what ric-rac is? It doesn't seem to be what I understand. I have several cards of ric-rac braid I got in a sale, and would use it to sew on to a garment for decoration. It was a very popular trim in the mid 50's if I remember right - that's the 1950's! But ric-rac involving crochet is a total mystery to me. Yet another example of two countries separated by the same language? Don't feel bad -- Im on *this* side of the pond (i.e., the states), and I have *no* clue either. The rick-rack that I remember was almost zig-zag like a bunch of except not that tight -- more like a string of sideways Zs Susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: Rick Rack
My favorite example of ric-rac is the decoration on Bia's dress (daughter of Cosimo I Medici, Eleanora's step-daughter) in the portrait by Bronzino. http://gallery.euroweb.hu/art/b/bronzino/1/bia.jpg Beth Matney At 08:22 AM 10/21/2005, you wrote: Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 23:10:55 -0700 From: Carolyn Kayta Barrows [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: Rick Rack To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Could someone explain what ric-rac is? It doesn't seem to be what I understand. I have several cards of ric-rac braid I got in a sale, and would use it to sew on to a garment for decoration. It was a very popular trim in the mid 50's if I remember right - that's the 1950's! But ric-rac involving crochet is a total mystery to me. Yet another example of two countries separated by the same language? Go here: http://crochet.about.com/library/weekly/aa082600.htm This article doesn't go back as far as the early 1800s, from where I saw my earliest example of this stuff, but read it and learn what Fran wants to do without crochet. CarolynKayta Barrows ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: Rick Rack
At 14:44 21/10/2005, you wrote: My favorite example of ric-rac is the decoration on Bia's dress (daughter of Cosimo I Medici, Eleanora's step-daughter) in the portrait by Bronzino. http://gallery.euroweb.hu/art/b/bronzino/1/bia.jpg Beth Matney Great image - that's exactly what I think of as ric rac and what's more, I can buy stuff like that in a shop in the centre of London! Thanks so much - a very useful piece of research. Suzi Could someone explain what ric-rac is? It doesn't seem to be what I understand. I have several cards of ric-rac braid I got in a sale, and would use it to sew on to a garment for decoration. It was a very popular trim in the mid 50's if I remember right - that's the 1950's! But ric-rac involving crochet is a total mystery to me. Yet another example of two countries separated by the same language? Go here: http://crochet.about.com/library/weekly/aa082600.htm This article doesn't go back as far as the early 1800s, from where I saw my earliest example of this stuff, but read it and learn what Fran wants to do without crochet. CarolynKayta Barrows ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Fan
While you are looking at this fan be sure to check out the 19th century mica fan the vendor is also selling. I think it is even cooler! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re:rick rack
I'm not at home and can' look at my back issues, but Didn't Pieceworks magazine have an article on rick rack a while back? (Huh...rick/rack/back) I Seem to recal that it was a history of rick rack and I think they might have addressed that rick rack/wavy braid difference and shewn at least an example of the sewn together stuff. But don't depend on my memory Mia in CHarlotte, NC, where they are making her actually work this week - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: rick rack
I wouldn't get hung up on the wavy braid, waved braid, etc. versus rickrack terms. I used rickrack because it is a term most people recognize now and is used in the titles of many 20th-century booklets on rickrack crochet. The Victorians happily called a wide variety of shapes wavy braid, or just fancy braid, from the mildly serpentine to the pointy. They showed you a picture of the tatted-and-braid jabot, or whatever, you were supposed to make and left it to you to either buy braid that looked exactly like it or buy some other braid with somewhat different waves and adapt the pattern to it as necessary. Fashion terminology is often neither precise nor consistent. Fran Lavolta Press http://www.lavoltapress.com Mia Dappert wrote: I'm not at home and can' look at my back issues, but Didn't Pieceworks magazine have an article on rick rack a while back? (Huh...rick/rack/back) I Seem to recal that it was a history of rick rack and I think they might have addressed that rick rack/wavy braid difference and shewn at least an example of the sewn together stuff. But don't depend on my memory Mia in CHarlotte, NC, where they are making her actually work this week ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: Rick Rack
Suzi Clarke wrote: Could someone explain what ric-rac is? It doesn't seem to be what I understand. I have several cards of ric-rac braid I got in a sale, and would use it to sew on to a garment for decoration. It was a very popular trim in the mid 50's if I remember right - that's the 1950's! But ric-rac involving crochet is a total mystery to me. Yet another example of two countries separated by the same language? Suzi that's what their talking about. you can crochet it onto a garment in the same way you crochet lace on, imagine battenburg lace as another somewhat similar item. in battenburg lace they are using a sheer lace in place of the Ric-rac braid. in using it in crochet they are attaching the rickrac with crochet stitches between the fabric and the rickrack. I'm not sure how they made a fabric with it, but I've seen rickrack intertwined to make a flat, not zigzag braid, so I imagine you could use it just about anyway you're imagination could twist it. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: Rick Rack
Beth and Bob Matney wrote: My favorite example of ric-rac is the decoration on Bia's dress (daughter of Cosimo I Medici, Eleanora's step-daughter) in the portrait by Bronzino. http://gallery.euroweb.hu/art/b/bronzino/1/bia.jpg That looks like rick-rack's sibling to me, not exactly rick-rack as I think of it. The Bronzino example looks more like a straight band with half-circle bumps off of it, alternating sides, rather than a wave shape. It's very interesting, though. -- Cynthia Virtue and/or Cynthia du Pre Argent Then to the King's Theatre, where we saw Midsummer's Night's Dream, which I had never seen before, nor shall ever again, for it is the most insipid ridiculous play that ever I saw in my life. -- Samuel Pepys, 1662 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Dress with rickrack lace on concluded ebay auction
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=8341058481fromMakeTrack=true If the link doesn't work, try searching eBay on the item number. The rickrack medallions seem to be held in the center by some kind of simple embroidery or needle lace stitch. Fran Lavolta Press Books on Historic Costuming http://www.lavoltapress.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] English Gable Hoods
Suzi, Are you looking for detail, or just any images? (to prove it wasn't just a figment of Holbein's imagination?) The Visual History of Costume, 16th century, has three church brasses, also the portrait of Elizabeth of York. Elizabeth of York's effigy in Westminster Abbey. Tournament roll from the birth of Prince Henry, 1511 (he died at 8 weeks), shows all Catherine of Aragon's ladies in waiting in gable hoods, with a squared off back section and no back drape. (Owned by the College of Arms, London) Portrait medal of Anne Boleyn, 1534 (British Museum) These three from the illustrated version of Antonia Fraser's The Six Wives of Henry VIII, Weidenfeld Nicholson 1996, 029783567X And a Lucas Hornebolte miniature of Catherine of Aragon (in the collection of the Duke of Buccleuch) - Sisters to the King by Maria Perry, Andre Deutsch, 1998, 0233990046 Jean Suzi Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote As I am fighting a losing battle with a gable hood I am making for a museum (for members of the public to try on, so all the bits have to be sewn together - eurk!) I have been looking for as many images of gable hoods as I can find. Curiously I have only found drawings and paintings by Holbein, apart from the Margaret of Beaufort (I think - early) one. Does anyone have other references? To save time, I already have the following sites as reference. * http://costume.dm.net/headwear/gable1.htmlThe English Gable Hood * http://www.uvm.edu/~hag/sca/tudor/gable.htmlTudor Gable Headdress: A Portfolio of Images * http://www.montgomerie.demon.co.uk/enghood1.htmlAn English Hood: Step-by-step Instructions * http://www.ninyamikhaila.com/englishhood.htmlMaking an English or Gable Hood * http://www.ninyamikhaila.com/englishhood.htmlAn English Hood Pattern * http://www.uvm.edu/~hag/sca/tudor/gableinst.htmlTudor Gable Headdress Illustrated: Step by Step Directions Suzi (who needs about 5 hands!) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Jean Waddie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] English Gable Hoods
At 23:01 21/10/2005, you wrote: Suzi, Are you looking for detail, or just any images? (to prove it wasn't just a figment of Holbein's imagination?) The Visual History of Costume, 16th century, has three church brasses, also the portrait of Elizabeth of York. Elizabeth of York's effigy in Westminster Abbey. Tournament roll from the birth of Prince Henry, 1511 (he died at 8 weeks), shows all Catherine of Aragon's ladies in waiting in gable hoods, with a squared off back section and no back drape. (Owned by the College of Arms, London) Portrait medal of Anne Boleyn, 1534 (British Museum) These three from the illustrated version of Antonia Fraser's The Six Wives of Henry VIII, Weidenfeld Nicholson 1996, 029783567X And a Lucas Hornebolte miniature of Catherine of Aragon (in the collection of the Duke of Buccleuch) - Sisters to the King by Maria Perry, Andre Deutsch, 1998, 0233990046 Jean Thanks Jean - yes, to prove Holbein hadn't arbitrarily decided to draw them and that was the only evidence. I'll try and find the Antonia Fraser book - sounds very helpful - another back! I'd forgotten the Visual History as so many of the paintings are reproduced so darkly. I'll go and take another look at that. Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
