RE: [h-cost] Re: blonde lace question
If you haven't found these sites; http://lace.lacefairy.com/ID/BlondeID.html http://blondecaen.chez-alice.fr/styles.htm#DENTELLES bands trimmed in blond lace http://www.mccord-museum.qc.ca/en/collection/artifacts/M14797.1-2?Lang=1acc essnumber=M14797.1-2 http://www.refalo.com/bobbinlace/blonde.html http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9015687 http://www.costumes.org/history/100pages/18THLACE.HTM http://www.antique-lace.com/Lacestextiles/2403/2403.htm http://hibiscus-sinensis.com/regency/weddinggown.htm De ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: narnia movie
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:23:19 -0500 From: Judy Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] narnia movie To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Cynthia Virtue wrote: Somebody was making gowns for the Queen, plus dwarves and giants wear clothes, so even if they didn't have specific clothing, there would have been supplies and skill of some level. I found it odd that the children were able to change clothes in the camp also. I mean, for the coronation sure! but how on earth did they get clothes that fit that soon. I mean, mostly it was talking beasts, merfolk, naiads and dryads - none of which wear human style clothing. Sure, there were dwarfs - but they weren't dressed in dwarfish styles! snippage -Judy Mitchell actually, I was disappointed that Mrs. Beaver didn't get her new sewing machine from Father Christmas in the movie. She gets a new one in the book. It's been a long time, but I think she'd have the sewing skills to make/alter clothes for the children. -- Joyce ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Humans in England, 700k years?
I happened upon an AP article that just caught my eye. Hopefully, I'm not sending out old news! But it looks like that they found 32 black flints, in river sediments in Pakefiield in eastern England, that dated back to 700,000 years. I think I need to find and re-read my Mummies of Urmichee (spelling?) book again. This find will make the re-reading much more enthralling (to me anyway)! I know this is *way* early for SCA (for those interested in SCA), but my research pathways have certainly expanded! I can hardly *wait* for the details of this find to be published, even if there's no mention of textiles, this is still useful for development of theories and conjectures. Elena/Gia ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Houppelandes with tie fastenings
I was doing some bell-belt online searching today, and found this marvelous image from 1430: http://www.rijksmuseum.nl/images/aria/sk/z/sk-c-1454.z Note the two ties holding the skirt of the houp closed! I'd never seen that before, although I (and probably others) have theorized that they were open on the center front, but held closed somehow. -- Cynthia Virtue and/or Cynthia du Pre Argent ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Humans in England, 700k years?
At 02:36 PM 12/14/2005, you wrote: I happened upon an AP article that just caught my eye. Hopefully, I'm not sending out old news! But it looks like that they found 32 black flints, in river sediments in Pakefiield in eastern England, that dated back to 700,000 years. I think I need to find and re-read my Mummies of Urmichee (spelling?) book again. This find will make the re-reading much more enthralling (to me anyway)! I know this is *way* early for SCA (for those interested in SCA), but my research pathways have certainly expanded! I can hardly *wait* for the details of this find to be published, even if there's no mention of textiles, this is still useful for development of theories and conjectures. Elena/Gia ___ Here's the link to the BBC story. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4526264.stm Very interesting! Joan Jurancich [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Houppelandes with tie fastenings
What nationality/county is the painting? unusual cuff on the under garment. De -Original Message- I was doing some bell-belt online searching today, and found this marvelous image from 1430: http://www.rijksmuseum.nl/images/aria/sk/z/sk-c-1454.z Note the two ties holding the skirt of the houp closed! I'd never seen that before, although I (and probably others) have theorized that they were open on the center front, but held closed somehow. -- Cynthia Virtue and/or Cynthia du Pre Argent ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Houppelandes with tie fastenings
otsisto wrote: What nationality/county is the painting? unusual cuff on the under garment. Dutch, I belive. There's more text at the website -- higher up the tree as it were. Websearches on her name turn up a lot, too. The draped undersleeve like that is seen in several other paintings of this time, most notably the Tres Riches Heures. http://www.rijksmuseum.nl/images/aria/sk/z/sk-c-1454.z -- Cynthia Virtue and/or Cynthia du Pre Argent Feeling like your Middle Age is upon you? New design at my CafePress store, with a medieval woodcut of a pharmacist, a paen to OTC drugs, and a quote from Chaucer about old(er) age. Black T-shirt, various other colors items: http://www.cafepress.com/virtueventures.39314581 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Houppelande with tie fastenings
So could the undergarment be exposed, used like a outer gown and the houppelande used like a coat? De -Original Message- Dutch, I belive. There's more text at the website -- higher up the tree as it were. Websearches on her name turn up a lot, too. The draped undersleeve like that is seen in several other paintings of this time, most notably the Tres Riches Heures. http://www.rijksmuseum.nl/images/aria/sk/z/sk-c-1454.z -- Cynthia Virtue and/or Cynthia du Pre Argent Feeling like your Middle Age is upon you? New design at my CafePress store, with a medieval woodcut of a pharmacist, a paen to OTC drugs, and a quote from Chaucer about old(er) age. Black T-shirt, various other colors items: http://www.cafepress.com/virtueventures.39314581 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Houppelande with tie fastenings
otsisto wrote: So could the undergarment be exposed, used like a outer gown and the houppelande used like a coat? I'm quite sure that most of the time a houppelande was like a coat, or maybe a sweater (jumper to you in the UK.) There was at least one outer gown under there, of several different potential types (one being the Van Der Weyden kirtle a la Mary Magdalen.) I don't know if the sleeve drape was like a lower circle sewn on, like you see on some young women's sleeves today, or if it was another sleeve like the angle-wing ones. This particular picture seems like it must be more like the circle-on-the-sleeve sort, but the TRH ones look a bit more like another big houp sleeve. cv ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Humans in England, 700k years?
I actually hadn't heard about this but it's very interesting. At 700,000 years ago, the likely candidate for the maker of the flints is homo heidelbergensis who was an ancestor of homo neanderthalensis. At this point in time general concensus has it that our ancestors (homo rhodesiensis) was still in Africa. The mummies of Urumchi date to about 4,000 years ago and are homo sapiens although they appear to be caucasian rather than oriental which is why finding them in the interior of China is so remarkable. Karen Seamstrix ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Christmas nighties
Dear list, I shared with you all my frustrations on measuring elastic for children who were far away a couple of weeks ago. I wasn't able to incorporate any of your suggestions this time, but did find ready-made garments to measure for a guide. I believe I mentioned that one reason to send the garments completely finished, rather than having their mom try to finish the casings, is that they would want to put the garments on immediately. Well, that is what happened. Because the family will be traveling for two weeks at Christmas, they opened their gifts Monday night, and we watched via web cam. The did indeed immediately put on their nightgowns. (Also gratifying was that the older one instantly recognized that they were the same fabric I had used to make them pillows for their birthdays.) Ah, modern technology! Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re:Colonial costume
Hi Kitty, Ok, I think I see what you mean - two strips of lace form a V that suggests a stomacher. Which is not at all how gowns of the era were made. Also they typically had low necklines, not a jewel neck. A riding habit would have a high neck, but not a gown. To fill in the neckline (for style or protection from the sun) she can wear a handkerchief. That will also conceal the fact that the dress has a jewel neckline. Some 20th/21st century women like that the handkerchief offers modesty, but in the 18thC a nice bustline is fashionable and not immodest. I like Albert Cat's idea of a solid dark blue or green. Don't bother with lace on the front at all. Get a somewhat sheer cotton for engenentes (ruffles at the cuffs) and an apron, and you can make the handkerchief out of it, too. her girls all have a colonial styled costume, and she wants one too so they can wear them together. her girls costumes have a psudo stomacher, created with a V of lace on the front of the dress. My friend wants to use this design feature on her dress, to create a bit of distraction on the front of the dress to minimize her width. She has a large bosom, but the dress will in no way expose her, it has a jeweled neckline. She called me the other day to ask me what lines to add to the skirt to be most becoming to her keeping her size in mind. I am the most experieced sewist of our bunch and the oldest. so I somehow became the expert of our group. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] getting oil stains out of fabric
Greetings, I know this has been discussed ad nauseam in the past but the changed archives don't seem to give me what I need. Does anyone have a record of these threads or a good tip that they can email me off list since I had an encounter with an exploding bottle of salad dressing (wearing new clothes, naturally), and I need to deal with a large blob of olive oil right in the middle of the top... Cheers, Danielle ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
