Re: [h-cost] bells on garments
otsisto wrote: For some reason my system doesn't access the pictures as only three pictures show up and the rest are frames with a little box and red X in the upper left hand corner. Argh. It's not your system, it's my ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) editing program. Sorry. It will be fixed in a few hours. (For those who care, it often messes up the image relative to page location vs. absolute location pointer.) cv ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Houppelande with tie fastenings
E House wrote: No offense meant, but I just don't buy it. =} If the seam were far enough up to be concealed by the oversleeve, the whole look/drape would be changed. Even with really careful tailoring and stretching of the bias, a circle-on-a-tube type of sleeve just doesn't give the same shape as one that flares out right at the end. It just looks wrong. I'm sorry, I'm not sure which idea you're not buying? However, if it were flared on the whole length, it wouldn't be bunched up around her right hand like that -- it would trail back inside the red sleeve. Those folds are so even, I don't think a flare at the end would produce them, only a circle sewn on. What sort of flare are you thinking of? One which drops down from the arm, or one which also goes upward? Here's a far less lush flare at the wrist: http://www.uvm.edu/~hag/sca/images/hecyra1.jpg It'll take an extant garment or a clear image of the flared sleeve with a seam to convince me. Sigh of general agreement! (That black stuff on the gold lining of her left sleeve doesn't look like stitching to me; it's repeated much lower down on the same lining portion, near the edge. It looks more like some characteristic of the fabric/fur; perhaps a variation on ermine patterning. Agreed. -- Cynthia Virtue and/or Cynthia du Pre Argent ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] RE: keyword spamming
With regards to the conversation a couple of weeks ago on keyword spamming on eBay, I wonder how this monstrosity, which looks NOTHING like anything even vaguely Austen-related, slipped through the net: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=8362341194 Perhaps the solution is to spell Jane Austen wrong?! (By the way, hello, I've been lurking for ages but couldn't post because my e-mail turns everything into HTML - think I've finally worked it out though). ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] For the costumers
In a message dated 12/15/2005 10:35:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: griz wrote: St. Sebastian pincushion... you know you want one. I know I do! All I can say is, E. Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] RE: keyword spamming
In a message dated 12/16/2005 5:50:01 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=8362341194 Very, very vaguely late Victorian, maybe, but Jane Austen? Hey, maybe it was worn by somebody named Jane in Austin, Texas! Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] bells on garments (fixed)
It's fixed for the second, and hopefully final, time. Sorry about that, folks! Its at http://www.virtue.to/articles/bells.html ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] For the costumers
This is an Unemployed Philosophers Guild product. They have a Beanie-Baby-style van Gogh doll with a detachable ear, a Global Warming mug that shows the predicted new coastlines when you fill it with hot coffee, a Scream pillow that does scream (and a Mona Lisa pillow that giggles), and Freudian Slippers with a sock-toe tongue protruding from Freud's mouth. Among many other punny, arch products. Character cards with stick-on appropriate quotations--including Jane Austen, fyi! They also have two different sets of Axis of Evil finger-puppets--choose according to your political inclinations They're constantly adding to their line, and revising it too, at least if you consider that the Shakespeare Brainy Baby is now on his fourth costume design. I've given my artist friend Frieda Kahlo as well as van Gogh. I've got Shakespeare (2 different outfits); a friend gave me the Great Writers finger-puppet set. I've given my niece Jane Austen and my sister, a biologist, Charles Darwin. I'm hoping somebody will give me Eleanor Roosevelt and Che this Christmas! If you like their sense of humor (and I confess I LOVE it with all my overeducated heart!), you can spend a lot of money with them. I haven't tumbled for the St. Sebastian pincushion yet, but it does look JUST like the painting, and I've found the painting perversely charming, with his faint little grin (ecstasy, I presume) and all, for years. As a Protestant/agnostic and lit major I take great pleasure in the various saints and feel free to find them bizarre. A friend of mine suggested that we start a pub on the Canadian border and call it the St. Lawrence Bar and Grill. Talk about Eeuw! Anyway, I assure all that I have no connection with the Unemployed Philosophers Guild except as a chronic customer. They have a website, in case you want to revel in their wierdness--or spend some money to make your overeducated friends laugh. --Ruth Anne Baumgartner scholar gypsy and amateur costumer -Original Message- From: otsisto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dec 15, 2005 11:15 PM To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [h-cost] For the costumers Oh how tacky. The things people create to sell. -Original Message- http://www.philosophersguild.com/index.lasso? page_mode=Product_Detailitem=0195 St. Sebastian pincushion... you know you want one. I know I do! griz ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Houppelande with tie fastenings
Here's a far less lush flare at the wrist: http://www.uvm.edu/~hag/sca/images/hecyra1.jpg Great image - where and when is it from? Janet ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Book
Has anyone seen this book or a review (preferably in English)? Le Vêtement: Histoire, archéologie et symbolique vestimentaires au Moyen Age (Cahiers du Léopard d'or) 332 pages Publisher: Léopard d'or (1989) Language: French ISBN: 2863770896 The title sounds interesting... Beth Matney ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] bells on garments (fixed)
At 13:03 16/12/2005, you wrote: It's fixed for the second, and hopefully final, time. Sorry about that, folks! Its at http://www.virtue.to/articles/bells.html ___ I am sure I have seen bells on one of the Tres Riches Heures pages, but cannot access my pix right now. Also found beautiful bells on a gentleman in a painting in the Prado, Madrid in the summer. (This one is possibly later - I forget the date.) Will copy to you when I have a spare minute. Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Houppelande with tie fastenings
Here's a far less lush flare at the wrist: http://www.uvm.edu/~hag/sca/images/hecyra1.jpg Oh -- I forgot to say that iirc, Hecyra (in the URL) is the name of the main character for which this was an illustration in the story. That might help track it down. I tried looking further up Hope's website, but I didn't see it. Providing my memory is accurate! however, I think I found it via a discussion on this list some 6-7 years ago, so searching at the archives on the filename might find more info. -- Cynthia Virtue and/or Cynthia du Pre Argent ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] email problems
Robin i am very glad you sended the link with the new H-costume archive. It is very easy to use, and i discovered that i only gets a few of the posts sended to my own mailbox. I had the feeling something was wrong last week two. Mails just slit out of my mailbox, i can se they get in when i upload my outlook express, but only a few is to be seen there. ( a small arrow moves for each mail comming in) My computer works fine, so i think perhaps it is my webserver that have problems. Guess i have to call them for advise. But to all of you, if you have something important to tell me, please email me 2- 3 times, so that i am sure to catch one of the mails... Bjarne Leif og Bjarne Drews www.my-drewscostumes.dk http://home0.inet.tele.dk/drewscph/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Bjarnes Sleaves
Re: [h-cost] Re: bjarne's sleeves Audrey Bergeron-Morin Mon, 05 Dec 2005 06:49:31 -0800 Bjarne, those flowers, how did you learn to make them? Do you have a book (in English, French or Spanish) to recommend? They're really amazing, sitting there just on the edge of the fabric... Hi Audrey. The small flowers are very simple made with loops of chenille threads, with french knots in the middle. Larger flowers are stumpwork made with chenille thread. I make foundation leaves edged with tiny wire, stabstitched and later buttonhole stitch all way round. (in a hoop) Then the chenille threads are couched onto the leaves with a thinner thread. I have some stumpwork embroidery books, try to rent one in your local library, it is very fun and very amazing how you can create your own 3-dimentional flowers. I got the idea to make these flowers, when i studyed a particular 18th century dress wich seemed to be sprayed all over with small, dimentional, chenille thread flowers. Next week il promise you pictures of the finished dress, at last. Bjarne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] For the costumers
I am sooo jealous of your collection. I got Kahlo, the fridge magnet for Xmas last year and drool at all the other wonderful possibilities. Have not had such fun with this wearable/usable/own it yourself art since I discovered an artist's rendering of many famous paintings in which the human figure is replaced with Cats! A favorite on my wall is OlymPUSS Apres Manet Kathleen - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 9:04 AM Subject: RE: [h-cost] For the costumers This is an Unemployed Philosophers Guild product. They have a Beanie-Baby-style van Gogh doll with a detachable ear, a Global Warming mug that shows the predicted new coastlines when you fill it with hot coffee, a Scream pillow that does scream (and a Mona Lisa pillow that giggles), and Freudian Slippers with a sock-toe tongue protruding from Freud's mouth. Among many other punny, arch products. Character cards with stick-on appropriate quotations--including Jane Austen, fyi! They also have two different sets of Axis of Evil finger-puppets--choose according to your political inclinations They're constantly adding to their line, and revising it too, at least if you consider that the Shakespeare Brainy Baby is now on his fourth costume design. I've given my artist friend Frieda Kahlo as well as van Gogh. I've got Shakespeare (2 different outfits); a friend gave me the Great Writers finger-puppet set. I've given my niece Jane Austen and my sister, a biologist, Charles Darwin. I'm hoping somebody will give me Eleanor Roosevelt and Che this Christmas! If you like their sense of humor (and I confess I LOVE it with all my overeducated heart!), you can spend a lot of money with them. I haven't tumbled for the St. Sebastian pincushion yet, but it does look JUST like the painting, and I've found the painting perversely charming, with his faint little grin (ecstasy, I presume) and all, for years. As a Protestant/agnostic and lit major I take great pleasure in the various saints and feel free to find them bizarre. A friend of mine suggested that we start a pub on the Canadian border and call it the St. Lawrence Bar and Grill. Talk about Eeuw! Anyway, I assure all that I have no connection with the Unemployed Philosophers Guild except as a chronic customer. They have a website, in case you want to revel in their wierdness--or spend some money to make your overeducated friends laugh. --Ruth Anne Baumgartner scholar gypsy and amateur costumer -Original Message- From: otsisto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dec 15, 2005 11:15 PM To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [h-cost] For the costumers Oh how tacky. The things people create to sell. -Original Message- http://www.philosophersguild.com/index.lasso? page_mode=Product_Detailitem=0195 St. Sebastian pincushion... you know you want one. I know I do! griz ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: unemployed philosopher's guild
Our art museum sells quite a bit of their products. I bought my brother a Freudian Sips coffee mug and a Freud finger puppet -- he comes with a couch finger puppet, which has a pop-up lady's head (for the patient's mother, who of course is behind all mental problems). My brother and his wife are both psychologists -- I bet their dinner conversation is fun! Gail Finke ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] RE: keyword spamming
Nice try but it says pride and prejudice before the name. :) Its a 1980s wedding dress (think Dallas) hmmm maybe your right about the Austin TX. :) De -Original Message- http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=8362341194 Very, very vaguely late Victorian, maybe, but Jane Austen? Hey, maybe it was worn by somebody named Jane in Austin, Texas! Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Clothing in Stuart England
I thought folks here might be interested in this. Looks like it's due out in February. Colleen Title: Fashion and Fiction: Dress in Art and Literature in Stuart England Author: RIBEIRO, AILEEN Price: $65.00 ISBN: 0300109997 Description: New Haven and London: Yale University Press, 2006. 28cm., cloth, ca 352pp., 80 color, 100 bw illus. (Focusing on the rich visual culture of the seventeenth century, including portraits, engravings, fashion plates, and sculpture, and on literary sources?poetry, drama, essays, sermons?the distinguished historian of dress Aileen Ribeiro creates a fascinating account of Stuart dress and how it both reflected and influenced society. Supported by a wealth of illustrative images, she explores such varied themes as court costumes, the masque, the ways in which political and religious ideologies could be expressed in dress, and the importance of London as a fashion center. This beautiful book is an indispensable and authoritative account of what people wore and how it related to Stuart England's cultural climate) ^Available February 2006^. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Book
Beth, I know I have a French costuming book somewhere in my library, let me see if it is the same one or not. If it is, I like the book except for the fact it is in French - there was a chapter in it that I wanted translated, luckily I had an acquaintance who could translate the chapter for me. Must go and let arm and wrist rest, had a nasty fall last weekend. Roscelin -- Original message -- From: Beth and Bob Matney [EMAIL PROTECTED] Has anyone seen this book or a review (preferably in English)? Le Vêtement: Histoire, archéologie et symbolique vestimentaires au Moyen Age (Cahiers du Léopard d'or) 332 pages Publisher: Léopard d'or (1989) Language: French ISBN: 2863770896 The title sounds interesting... Beth Matney ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Houppelande with tie fastenings
Here's a far less lush flare at the wrist: http://www.uvm.edu/~hag/sca/images/hecyra1.jpg Great image - where and when is it from? Janet It is by the Orosius Master, ca. 1412: Laches accuses Sostrata. Paris, Bil. de L'Arsenal, ms. 664. fol. 213v. It was illustrating a Roman playwright's plays, but I can't find easily which playwright. The picture may be found in French Painting in the Time of Jean de Berry: The Limbourgs and Their Contemporaries (Plates volume), by Millard Meiss, George Braziller, NY. ISBN 0-8076-0734-7. The text volume does say which playwright, somewhere. Ann in CT __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Wrist flare Re: [h-cost] Houppelande with tie fastenings
Sorry, should have re-titled the previous message. ACt Here's a far less lush flare at the wrist: http://www.uvm.edu/~hag/sca/images/hecyra1.jpg Great image - where and when is it from? Janet It is by the Orosius Master, ca. 1412: Laches accuses Sostrata. Paris, Bil. de L'Arsenal, ms. 664. fol. 213v. Ann in CT __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Update, my lectures in Portland, Oregon
I promised to post information on my upcoming lecture appearance in Portland, Oregon, when it became available. The registration information is now online here: http://www.ithra.antir.sca.org/idisplay.php?topic=classesit=5433 or here: http://www.ithra.antir.sca.org/idisplay.php?topic=classesit=5433 The date is March 25, 2006, and I'll be doing five lectures on women's dress of the 14th and 15th centuries. The event is part of an SCA university, but non-SCA members are welcome, and period dress is not required. --Robin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
