Re: [h-cost] Overdyeing with tan
You might try looking in books, etc. that deal with patchwork quilts. There was quite the fad there for a while to use fabrics that looked aged, tea-dyed, etc. I know you said you didn't want to use tea as an overdye, but some of those books might offer suggestions. You might also be able to ask some people (like Dharma Trading?) directly, through their websites. Oh, oopslooks like you've hit them up already. I've never done anything like that (either with clothing or cloth for quilts--brownish colors being generally not to my taste), so I don't know if my ideas are actually viable, but who knows? They might be --Sue, waiting for it to drop at least into the mid-80s in her apartment, so she can go to sleep.although a sleeping bag on the front porch is starting to sound *real* good - Original Message - From: "Lavolta Press" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 4:16 PM Subject: [h-cost] Overdyeing with tan > OK, so I'm almost finished dyeing stuff, but, I've dyed a bunch of > cotton shirts in some colors that are a bit too bright for my taste. > They are all oranges, yellows, peaches, or pinks. The ones that were > totally blecherous, I've already redyed in different, much darker > colors. These are ones that almost work from my point of view; but I'd > like to tone them down a little, to more earthy shades of the same > thing, rather than making them a completely different color. > > I've just read a very interesting book on historic costuming for film. > It contains almost no information on how to design or make clothing, but > a great deal on how to organize the process of obtaining enormous > quantities of garments, keeping track of them, and interacting with the > many other people involved in film making. The author does mention that > pure white often looks too bright on camera, and so he overdyes with a > weak solution of Rit tan to make it a shade that "looks" white, or just > off-white, when filmed. There is a hint that he may use this process to > "soften" other colors, but I'm not sure that can be done without making > the color look "dirty," an effect he sometimes consciously strives for > to "age" clothing. He doesn't go into details on the process. And an > aged or dirty look is not what I'm striving for. Just less bright. > > So, does anyone know if a weak overdye of tan will soften a strong > yellow, orange, peach, or pink without making it look dirty, or turning > it into a very different color? And, is there a Procion dye they can > recommend for this, since Rit is not very fast? If so, what strength > should be used? > > (I'm not thrilled about the idea of using tea because of the tannin, and > I suspect tea [and coffee] is not all that fast either.) > > I already have some Procion MX ecru from Dharma Trading, which when used > in the strength directed produces a pleasant light beige on a pure white > shirt. Will that do? If so should be it be made a little weaker? If > not, is there another color I should buy? > > Thanks for any info. > > Fran > Lavolta Press > http://www.lavoltapress.com > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Overdyeing with tan
OK, so I'm almost finished dyeing stuff, but, I've dyed a bunch of cotton shirts in some colors that are a bit too bright for my taste. They are all oranges, yellows, peaches, or pinks. The ones that were totally blecherous, I've already redyed in different, much darker colors. These are ones that almost work from my point of view; but I'd like to tone them down a little, to more earthy shades of the same thing, rather than making them a completely different color. I've just read a very interesting book on historic costuming for film. It contains almost no information on how to design or make clothing, but a great deal on how to organize the process of obtaining enormous quantities of garments, keeping track of them, and interacting with the many other people involved in film making. The author does mention that pure white often looks too bright on camera, and so he overdyes with a weak solution of Rit tan to make it a shade that "looks" white, or just off-white, when filmed. There is a hint that he may use this process to "soften" other colors, but I'm not sure that can be done without making the color look "dirty," an effect he sometimes consciously strives for to "age" clothing. He doesn't go into details on the process. And an aged or dirty look is not what I'm striving for. Just less bright. So, does anyone know if a weak overdye of tan will soften a strong yellow, orange, peach, or pink without making it look dirty, or turning it into a very different color? And, is there a Procion dye they can recommend for this, since Rit is not very fast? If so, what strength should be used? (I'm not thrilled about the idea of using tea because of the tannin, and I suspect tea [and coffee] is not all that fast either.) I already have some Procion MX ecru from Dharma Trading, which when used in the strength directed produces a pleasant light beige on a pure white shirt. Will that do? If so should be it be made a little weaker? If not, is there another color I should buy? Thanks for any info. Fran Lavolta Press http://www.lavoltapress.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] video clip
Hi, A member on another list i am on, posted this link: It is a fantastic and interresting movie clip about womens lives in 18th century, with lots of gorgeous costumes. Its Marissa Berenson (Lady Lyndon) who tells the story... I just wanted to share, its so lovely http://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play?rurl=gse.uml.edu&oid=3614db68bb6c1cc7&; Bjarne Leif og Bjarne Drews www.my-drewscostumes.dk http://home0.inet.tele.dk/drewscph/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] help - velveteen colour running
At 12:03 AM +1000 6/25/06, Beth Schoenberg wrote: Have you tried "Runaway?" I believe Woolworth's and Coles sells it, and possibly also Kmart. It worked when we had a red-running problem on the huge baronial banner for Politarchopolis, which I believe you may have seen once or twice. "Runaway" is the same chemical as "Retayne", except that it's packaged in one-laundry-load doses at a much inflated price :( If you think you'll ever have trouble with colors running again, it's worth it to buy a bottle of Retayne. Dharma Trading carries it if you're in the USA -- Googling on the brand name should get you whatever local sources you need. Stores that sell cloth dyes ought to carry it. "Synthropol" is also an excellent investment. I've seen it in art supply stores and (of course) Dharma Trading. My recommendation is to wash your item with Retayne first to fix as much of the dye as possible. Vinegar is often mentioned as a dye fixer, but actually it works a lot better in the initial dyeing process than later, and often doesn't do much for an already-dyed object. After that, then wash it in Synthropol to remove any dye that isn't firmly fastened onto the fabric. "Crocking" or the rubbing off of dye onto whatever it's touching is unfortunately a problem with a lot of heavily dyed items. Reds and blacks (wouldn't you know!) tend to be among the worst dyes for staying put where you want them. Hope this helps -- -- OChris Laning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Question for the list (black silk dye)
Apologies for the delay of this reply. My email has been down for several days. E House wrote: I'd love to know what brand then, because I haven't found it sold by any of my sources--most of which tell you straight out that their dye won't work on silk. I've gotten some very lovely dark plums using black washfast acid dye on silk. I used Jacquard's acid silk dye. I can't get the Jacquard site to talk to me right now or I would give you a link. I do not know whether it would be successful with a washing machine/stove top setup. It could be that that is the problem you've had in the past--not enough temperature control? Not high enough temperature? I'm not a dye expert, so I probably shouldn't try to diagnose. The difficult part, as you say, is steam setting. It's not that it's hard to set up a steam-setting chimney (pot of boiling water, tube of some kind suspended over it), but doing large yardage is nearly impossible. The black I've dyed was a relatively small amount for a blouse. Melanie Schuessler ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
