Re: friends (was Re: [h-cost] Re:bjarne
Audrey Bergeron-Morin wrote: And Ruth Anne, I'm probably in the same age range as you. I consiously cultivate younger friends so when the older ones "leave us" I'll still have a bit of support...My grandmother taught me this. I don't know that I've ever thought about it, but that's a *really* good idea! Not only that, but keeping up with the "younguns" helps keep you young, too. And, from my "side" of things, keeping up with the "olduns" gives you a different perspective of life, too! Absolutely. Age is nothing but a number; it doesn't reflect your soul. I've met quite a few mature 17- and 18-year-olds and some rather immature 50-year-olds. It's all who you decide to be. :) Marie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: friends (was Re: [h-cost] Re:bjarne
And Ruth Anne, I'm probably in the same age range as you. I consiously cultivate younger friends so when the older ones "leave us" I'll still have a bit of support...My grandmother taught me this. I don't know that I've ever thought about it, but that's a *really* good idea! Not only that, but keeping up with the "younguns" helps keep you young, too. And, from my "side" of things, keeping up with the "olduns" gives you a different perspective of life, too! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] OT: LJ/ blogspot/Yahoo360 etc.
Hello list, I don't usually post here am more of a lurker, but I have to say something. "But, the corollary is a lot of people won't read it, me included " How do you know what others will read or not read? "But I'm not a chat person" Could have fooled me. "Years ago I quit going to the kind of parties > where people stand around and talk to each other because I was spending > most of them holed up in the host's bedroom (hoping they wouldn't come > in and think I was up to something seriously weird with their underwear > drawer) reading a good book (I take one everywhere I go)." How sad and insulting to the host and the guests. If you don't like blogging why do you subscribe to this banal and boring social and rather chatty costume list, and why did you choose to write this rather long response? I suggest you stop wasting your time here and begin working on that long list of books you want to write. I enjoy LJ (Waves to Bella) and what my friends have to say. And I hold a BA in English Lit! HA! And am a candidate for my MAT in Education! Guess I'm a Monkey. Elizabeth On 7/10/06 12:33 PM, "Lavolta Press" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Bella wrote: >> Hi Fran, >> >> you seem to have your mind set against it > > There's no reason why I should have my mind set for it--blogging is > purely optional. > > ,But one thing you wrote I felt needed to be explained, at least for the >> benefit of others if not for yourself. It's not strangers you talk to about >> your "day" (unless you >> choose to) - you get to choose who sees your posts by setting up filters. > > I've looked at LiveJournal--I had an account for one day to research > what it was about--and I've run across a great many blogs on the net > while looking for other things. It's not like I've never read a blog, or > that the concept is new to me. But, have you ever seen the quote by > computer scientist Robert Wilensky: > > "We've all heard that a million monkeys banging on a million typewriters > will eventually reproduce the entire works of Shakespeare. Now, thanks > to the Internet, we know this is not true." > > Although some people produce blogs like editorial columns, > professionally done and with real content, overall, the amount of sheer > drivel on the Internet is overwhelming. I understand well that the > human urge to communicate is fairly universal. It's the driving force of > most of my life, in one way or another. What is opaque to me is the > blurring of public and private boundaries. I've seen a great many > blogs--they are by no means all on LiveJournal or private--with lengthy > recitals about the weather that day, someone's feelings about events > only important to them and their intimate circle, and on and on. And my > reaction is,_who cares_? I think things like that should be restricted > to a private diary--though I don't keep one--or to a handful of truly > intimate friends and relations. > > Obviously anyone is free to post anything they want. Me included. But, > the corollary is a lot of people won't read it, me included (nor do I > expect everyone to hang on my lips either). Hey, I've got a couple of > hundred really good, professionally written books sitting on my to-read > pile, and I've got several on my to-write pile. To me, getting involved > with my own or anyone else's written recitals about daily trivia and > their feelings about it is a sheer waste of time. > > But I'm not a chat person, apparently particularly in comparison to most > women (as opposed to men). Years ago I quit going to the kind of parties > where people stand around and talk to each other because I was spending > most of them holed up in the host's bedroom (hoping they wouldn't come > in and think I was up to something seriously weird with their underwear > drawer) reading a good book (I take one everywhere I go). > > Fran > Lavolta Press > http://www.lavoltapress.com > > > > Anyone can have dozens >> of strangers on their friends list if they so choose, but limit any entry to >> only a few select >> people if they want to. >> >> I started off on LJ by adding only people (adding to my 'friends list') with >> whom I had already >> communicated with on some level in 'normal' mailing lists like this one. >> Then, through them, I met >> others with whom I have common interests. I'm happy to say I've made some >> friends I would >> otherwise never have met, and have goten to know them and they me. Next year >> when I go to europe >> I'll have people whith whom I share a love of fine fabrics and costuming and >> with whom I can meet >> and go shopping! I can think of nothing better when visiting a strange >> country then to have >> somebody there who is not a complete stranger welcome me and show me wherethe >> 'locals' shop and >> eat. I'm looking forward to it a lot. :-) >> >> >> Bella >> >> >> >> --- Lavolta Press <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>> Obviously many people on the net are into this, it's j
[h-cost] RE: h-costume Siglo XVIII Spain
http://www.fundacionjakober.org/spain5.html Portraits of Carlos VI, Isabel II and Amadeus I should be a good jumping off point. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_IV_of_Spain Infanta Eulalia www.npg.org.uk/live/search/person.asp?LinkID=mp69533 Catalina nunca sin mi vino ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] OT: LJ/ blogspot/Yahoo360 etc.
Message: 8 Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2006 21:59:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Kimiko Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [h-cost] OT: LJ/ blogspot/Yahoo360 etc. To: Historical Costume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi Fran, For some of us, myself included, it is a way to communicate with other people of like minds. It's also a way to communicate with friends far away, telling people of our day, our accomplishments, letting off steam, good things, bad things, whatever we want to share... sort of like the comments, off topic and on topic that people on this list write about. What Kimiko said above. I'm not a SAHM, but I do work in a field far removed from costume and I have other specific and non-mainstream interests, so LJ and other online forums (and lists like this one) are a way to keep in touch with like-minded/interested people, see what they're doing, compare notes, etc. It's also good as a "keeping people up to date" place - sort of a substitute for the yearly Christmas letter in which you tell everyone what you've done for the last year; this way you save postage and update it more frequently. Given the slow nature of most of my costume projects, I don't keep a separate dress diary, but I do post in my general journal about what I'm working on when there's a development, in addition to my usual every day stuff. If anyone on LJ wants to Friend or Friend back, drop me a private line. Allison T. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] OT: LJ/ blogspot/Yahoo360 etc.
Bella wrote: Hi Fran, you seem to have your mind set against it There's no reason why I should have my mind set for it--blogging is purely optional. ,But one thing you wrote I felt needed to be explained, at least for the benefit of others if not for yourself. It's not strangers you talk to about your "day" (unless you choose to) - you get to choose who sees your posts by setting up filters. I've looked at LiveJournal--I had an account for one day to research what it was about--and I've run across a great many blogs on the net while looking for other things. It's not like I've never read a blog, or that the concept is new to me. But, have you ever seen the quote by computer scientist Robert Wilensky: "We've all heard that a million monkeys banging on a million typewriters will eventually reproduce the entire works of Shakespeare. Now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true." Although some people produce blogs like editorial columns, professionally done and with real content, overall, the amount of sheer drivel on the Internet is overwhelming. I understand well that the human urge to communicate is fairly universal. It's the driving force of most of my life, in one way or another. What is opaque to me is the blurring of public and private boundaries. I've seen a great many blogs--they are by no means all on LiveJournal or private--with lengthy recitals about the weather that day, someone's feelings about events only important to them and their intimate circle, and on and on. And my reaction is,_who cares_? I think things like that should be restricted to a private diary--though I don't keep one--or to a handful of truly intimate friends and relations. Obviously anyone is free to post anything they want. Me included. But, the corollary is a lot of people won't read it, me included (nor do I expect everyone to hang on my lips either). Hey, I've got a couple of hundred really good, professionally written books sitting on my to-read pile, and I've got several on my to-write pile. To me, getting involved with my own or anyone else's written recitals about daily trivia and their feelings about it is a sheer waste of time. But I'm not a chat person, apparently particularly in comparison to most women (as opposed to men). Years ago I quit going to the kind of parties where people stand around and talk to each other because I was spending most of them holed up in the host's bedroom (hoping they wouldn't come in and think I was up to something seriously weird with their underwear drawer) reading a good book (I take one everywhere I go). Fran Lavolta Press http://www.lavoltapress.com Anyone can have dozens of strangers on their friends list if they so choose, but limit any entry to only a few select people if they want to. I started off on LJ by adding only people (adding to my 'friends list') with whom I had already communicated with on some level in 'normal' mailing lists like this one. Then, through them, I met others with whom I have common interests. I'm happy to say I've made some friends I would otherwise never have met, and have goten to know them and they me. Next year when I go to europe I'll have people whith whom I share a love of fine fabrics and costuming and with whom I can meet and go shopping! I can think of nothing better when visiting a strange country then to have somebody there who is not a complete stranger welcome me and show me wherethe 'locals' shop and eat. I'm looking forward to it a lot. :-) Bella --- Lavolta Press <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Obviously many people on the net are into this, it's just not my cup of tea. Ever since I graduated from college, I've spent at least 40 hours a week communicating with people as a profession. That leaves me with little interest in doing it recreationally. I learned long ago that if I have a good idea or good information, some one will always pay me for it. If it's not a good idea or good information, it's better just to keep it to myself. I can't imagine telling strangers on the net all about my "day," nor can I imagine why any of them would have the slightest interest in any of my days, or in my feelings. Fran The LOST Ninja blog: Exclusive clues, clips and gossip. http://au.blogs.yahoo.com/lostninja ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] OT: LJ/ blogspot/Yahoo360 etc.
Susan B. Farmer wrote: which do you like best and why? I have my own website and I prefer it over the blog services because I have better control over it all. I can choose what it looks like, what I want to say on it, how much space I use, and what features I want. Nobody can arbitrarily delete my pages over TOS violations. I have 20+ gig of photo space. I can password protect portions, too. I started long before blogging became popular, and just found the format of those sites to be restrictive. Obviously, there's a lot more work and technical expertise involved in your own site and it's not going to be the best solution for everyone. Like Fran, I don't want to 'bare all' on my website, and I don't keep a daily journal. I started putting up project-specific journals in an effort to show newcomers to the hobby (the focus of my site is costuming for beginners) that even when you're experienced and think you know what you're doing you can still have a difficult and frustrating time with a costume, and that it can be overcome. Fortunately, there's room for all of us to do what we like best. :) Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re:East Coast Trip
At 15:11 10/07/2006, you wrote: >The former curator very kindly arranged for Anne and I to meet with Linda Baumgarten at >Colonial Williamsburg for an hour and a half, where we got to see some ladies' garments of >the same period, plus drawers full of quilted petticoats, pockets and stomachers. Suzi -- I have a group of Bishop spouses from the Episcopal Church who is planning a conference in Williamsburg March 15-18. I had mentioned to them about the possiblity of being able to see some costuming close up but didn't know who to contact. I would love to be able to show them something other than the regular "tourist" attractions there. We will also be going to Jamestown that weekend too. If you have the names of the curator or someone who might give us a specialized tour, I would really appreciate it. You may contact me off-llist with the information. I'll contact you off list - need to ask if "my" contact is happy to pass on your details. Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] 1797 Spanish Dress
Hi, folks, Do any one around here has a picture, patterns or whatever information on late XVIII century Spanish clothing, textiles used, etc Any help will be much appreciated Joseph Pereda [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 8:26 AM To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Subject: h-costume Digest, Vol 5, Issue 522 Send h-costume mailing list submissions to h-costume@mail.indra.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of h-costume digest..." ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re:East Coast Trip
>The former curator very kindly arranged for Anne and I to meet with Linda Baumgarten at >Colonial Williamsburg for an hour and a half, where we got to see some ladies' garments of >the same period, plus drawers full of quilted petticoats, pockets and stomachers. Suzi -- I have a group of Bishop spouses from the Episcopal Church who is planning a conference in Williamsburg March 15-18. I had mentioned to them about the possiblity of being able to see some costuming close up but didn't know who to contact. I would love to be able to show them something other than the regular "tourist" attractions there. We will also be going to Jamestown that weekend too. If you have the names of the curator or someone who might give us a specialized tour, I would really appreciate it. You may contact me off-llist with the information. Thanks. Donna Scarfe Fyne Hats By Felicity Period Headgear for Past Ages www.fynehatsbyfelicity.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] East Coast Trip
At 21:52 09/07/2006, you wrote: Suzi, I would love to see the pictures and some of the info you collected. Can you add me to the list - e-mail me directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Sarah Sarah I will add you to my list, but there will be no photos of the museum items - I am not allowed to publish these without paying a huge fee! This is normal practice when photo-ing a museum's reserve collection i.e. those items not on public display. I got to spend a whole day (!) at the DAR Museum, looking at female clothing from +/- 1780-1820. Alden O'Brien asked a colleague, a former curator, to join us, and then simply opened drawers and asked if we wanted to see the contents. There were short gowns, altered gowns, corsets, a bodiced petticoat, fans, pockets, purses, a few fashion plates referring to a couple of garments we were looking at... The next day we started off for Virginia, but got seriously distracted by G street Fabrics, where I topped up the stash, and bought several items from the Notions department. (DH meanwhile was buying shoes.) The former curator very kindly arranged for Anne and I to meet with Linda Baumgarten at Colonial Williamsburg for an hour and a half, where we got to see some ladies' garments of the same period, plus drawers full of quilted petticoats, pockets and stomachers. We over-ran our time, so Linda sent me the details of what we saw, which I will enjoy checking out once my brain stops aching. I spent some very pleasant,if busy, days with Anne, her DH and my DH, including a trip to see Colonial Williamsburg - the town - and Jamestown. We only hit one fabric store, honest, and I only bought a couple of notions, no fabric. On the morning of the day we left, Mary, the former curator, met me, showed me some more items from her personal collection and we then had a very rushed visit through the National Gallery of Art in Washington, where there is a wonderful Venetian exhibition currently on show, I also bought a few (not!) postcards to add to my collection. If anyone would like more details, I will be sending a newsletter to my friends and colleagues who are interested. I can add you to the list. Unfortunately there will not be photos, as I signed forms to keep them to myself, and not publish on the internet. (Quite normal with museum collections.) Suzi -- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume End of h-costume Digest, Vol 5, Issue 521 * - How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] OT: LJ/ blogspot/Yahoo360 etc.
Hi Fran, you seem to have your mind set against it, and I can sure understandabout not wanting to communicate for fun when you do it for a living, so I'm not trying to convert you to LJ-dom or anything like that. But one thing you wrote I felt needed to be explained, at least for the benefit of others if not for yourself. It's not strangers you talk to about your "day" (unless you choose to) - you get to choose who sees your posts by setting up filters. Anyone can have dozens of strangers on their friends list if they so choose, but limit any entry to only a few select people if they want to. I started off on LJ by adding only people (adding to my 'friends list') with whom I had already communicated with on some level in 'normal' mailing lists like this one. Then, through them, I met others with whom I have common interests. I'm happy to say I've made some friends I would otherwise never have met, and have goten to know them and they me. Next year when I go to europe I'll have people whith whom I share a love of fine fabrics and costuming and with whom I can meet and go shopping! I can think of nothing better when visiting a strange country then to have somebody there who is not a complete stranger welcome me and show me wherethe 'locals' shop and eat. I'm looking forward to it a lot. :-) Bella --- Lavolta Press <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Obviously many people on the net are into this, it's just not my cup of > tea. Ever since I graduated from college, I've spent at least 40 hours > a week communicating with people as a profession. That leaves me with > little interest in doing it recreationally. I learned long ago that if > I have a good idea or good information, some one will always pay me for > it. If it's not a good idea or good information, it's better just to > keep it to myself. I can't imagine telling strangers on the net all > about my "day," nor can I imagine why any of them would have the > slightest interest in any of my days, or in my feelings. > > Fran The LOST Ninja blog: Exclusive clues, clips and gossip. http://au.blogs.yahoo.com/lostninja ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
