Re: [h-cost] 17th Century German Paper Doll

2006-09-10 Thread Carolyn Kayta Barrows


Thought some of you might get a kick out of 
this. 
http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/mi08115a05b.jpghttp://www.bildindex.de/bilder/mi08115a05b.jpg 



(I have a vague recollection it might have been posted before, if so, my 
apologies.)


It is a fragment from a woodcut print.  It is water colored.  On the back 
there has been a pair of templates attached, not the original backside.


Some years ago I saw this in a book about toys, and had not been able to 
track it down because the book didn't say where it was from.  Thank you so 
much.



   CarolynKayta Barrows
dollmaker, fibre artist, textillian
 www.FunStuft.com

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Re: [h-cost] 17th Century German Paper Doll

2006-09-10 Thread Saragrace Knauf
Sorry, this there is only a black and white copy on Bildindex.  You never know, 
if you contact the museum, you might be able to get a color copy.
Sg
  - Original Message - 
  From: Becky Rautinemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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  Subject: RE: [h-cost] 17th Century German Paper Doll


  Would you make a color copy of this if you have it? It looks like a 
  Renaissance paper doll to me.

  Sincerely,
  Becky Rautine


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Re: [h-cost] Is this wool flannel appropriate for any costuming uses?

2006-09-10 Thread Beth and Bob Matney
I've been meaning to this for awhile. I would certainly be interested in 
seeing your counts.


I was at Birka (Sweden) a week ago and they had a dark blue worsted twill 
fabric sample (and a handwoven bolt reproduced.. that could be handled) 
that was fine. They said that it was quite common in the finds.


Have you looked at Lise Bender Jorgensen's North European Textiles Until 
AD 1000 ?


Beth


Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 09:36:15 -0500
From: E House [EMAIL PROTECTED]

For what it's worth, I recently did a thread count comparison between the
counts given in Medieval Textiles and Woven into the Earth, and some
common types of modern wool (including gabardine). To my surprise, even the
normal-to-coarse modern wools that should have been comparable based on text
descriptions were FAR finer (like 2-3 times the thread count) than even the
extant textiles that were described as being extremely fine.  If anyone is
interested in more detail, I'll look around for the notebook that has my
preliminary notes and post 'em here.

Long story short, though, go for the coarser woolens if you want a really
authentic-looking fabric, at least for pre ~1475, and for early period 
vikingish stuff, try to find a coarse worsted. (Woolens didn't get hip until
what, around 12thC-13thC?  sorry, posting without my references.)

-E House
(Loves the fine worsteds far too much to give them up.  Besides, I haven't
gotten thread counts for the early 16thC yet.  Maybe things were different
then! Anyone have any references?)


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Re: [h-cost] 17th Century German Paper Doll

2006-09-10 Thread Becky Rautine


What is  Bildindex I'm new to costume sources. Please tell me about how to 
contact the museum and what museum that it is.

Sincerely,
Becky Rautine




From: Saragrace Knauf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [h-cost] 17th Century German Paper Doll
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 07:46:57 -0700



Sorry, this there is only a black and white copy on Bildindex.  You never 
know, if you contact the museum, you might be able to get a color copy.

Sg
  - Original Message -
  From: Becky Rautinemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 9:09 AM
  Subject: RE: [h-cost] 17th Century German Paper Doll


  Would you make a color copy of this if you have it? It looks like a
  Renaissance paper doll to me.

  Sincerely,
  Becky Rautine


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[h-cost] metalic organza, for a pleated frill

2006-09-10 Thread Elizabeth Walpole

Hello everyone,
I'm planning to make-over my French Hood (I used Drea Aleed's 1533 pattern 
http://www.elizabethancostume.net/headwear/fhoodmake.html#patterns) and 
although I'm pretty happy with the overall shape of the hood it really needs 
an under-cap to be more authentic. The Tudor Tailor book recommends metallic 
organza to make the pleated frill you see at the front of French hoods. I've 
found this silk/copper organza http://www.trimfabric.com/k-648.html and I 
wanted to check that this is the same as the 'metallic organza' mentioned in 
the book. Otherwise Thai silks has a metallic silk organza 
http://www.thaisilks.com/store/merchant.mv?Screen=PRODStore_Code=TSProduct_Code=005L 
which is cheaper but it's 80% 'metal' without specifying what the metal is 
(and the photo isn't as good so I'm not sure about the overall look). Would 
the higher metal content mean that it holds the pleats better or would it 
make it too fragile? If anybody has experimented with pleating metallic 
organza, which would you recommend for a finely pleated frill? (for an idea 
of how finely pleated, this 
http://formetoknow.myphotoalbum.com/view_photo.php?full=1set_albumName=album02id=boleyn1 
is the portrait the shape of the hood is based on, you can see the golden 
coloured frill sticking out from underneath her hood.

thanks
Elizabeth

Elizabeth Walpole
Canberra Australia
ewalpole[at]tpg.com.au
http://au.geocities.com/amiperiodornot/

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