Re: [h-cost] hair taping
Julie wrote: I wonder if using cotton twill tape instead of satin ribbon would work better. I agree. I use grosgrain ribbon--I think the less slippery, the better! Melanie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] hair taping
I'm intrigued by the reference to Elizabeth's second link--I can't find the message this clearly refers to, and maybe hair taping would be helpful to me. In my annual Queen of Yore gig at a Medieval Banquet church fund-raiser, I fight with my hair (and lose) every year. The King and I (haha) don't wear headdresses--in fact, he won't even consent to a crown but last year acquiesced to my proffered filet, another of which I also wore last year to complement him. A proper headdress would be nice, but the logistics of the event, from dressing space on through chair-to-table distance (our thrones have arms) militate against it, as does the King's preference. (The king is a professional and known actor, a wonderful personality, and a very overweight man--I think his objection to crowns, rings, and other encircling things is a result of this last feature, but any of these would encourage me to defer to his strongly expressed sentiments.) I have hip-length hair, basic beige but dramatically going white in streaks. What I'd like to do is braid it and coil it over my ears (very yore)--but I can't find a reliable way of anchoring the coils. One year in frustration I gave up and piled it on top of my head and looped pearls around it; one year I just made numerous loops and tied them together above my ears--this looked very Heidi, and they flopped like Beagle's ears when I turned my head...Last year I had a notion of sewing the nested coils together with gold cord and then tieing the cord to the filet, but that was an unmitigated disaster that I ripped out with only ten minutes to spare before our grand processional entrance, settling for a bun at the nape of the neck plus those trusty pearls. Can someone direct me to a website or other directions for appropriate and manageable Yore Hair? The Burgundy-style gown has a standing collar. Ever grateful-- Ruth Anne Baumgartner scholar gypsy and amateur costumer -Original Message- From: Elisabeth Doornink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 15, 2006 9:00 PM To: 'Historical Costume' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [h-cost] hair taping I do hair taping just as a modern type hair do, and have found that I either need to do it when it's wet, or when I've got a bunch of small-ish claw clips to anchor the hair as I tape it. It's gotten easier and easier as my hair has grown - a twist of hair reaches from behind one ear over to the next, and the gravity of the strand helps keep it in place. Quia Christus perpetuo regnat, Elisabeth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julie Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 4:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] hair taping Sorry getting in the middle of the topic. Have you tried braiding your hair when wet or with a little gel or mousse? Usually it isn't thick hair that is the problem but how smooth/slick the strands are. De -Original Message- Hi Elizabeth, Yes, I've tried the hair taping (as seen in the second link you gave), and it will only stay on my head if I then wrap the hair in a kertch. It won't stay up on its own, and it wouldn't stay stable for a base for the French hood. Also, it falls apart in the kertch that I wore, and only the wrapping of the fabric around my head kept it from coming down. Maybe it is because I am doing my own hair, it is very thick, and I really don't do much practice in hair braiding in general. I am not sure what else to try, so I gladly will accept suggestions. Kimiko - Maybe it has to do with what you're using for the hair taping. Usually we use single faced satin ribbon. Comes out in a day. At one fair we were out of ribbon and so used the lucet braid I had on hand made out of cotton rug warp. That hair taping stayed in for 3 days! I slept with a silk scarf over it. It would have stayed UP longer, but there were too many fuzzies escaping. I wonder if using cotton twill tape instead of satin ribbon would work better. Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.5/534 - Release Date: 11/14/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.5/534 - Release Date: 11/14/2006 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] hair taping
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 2:19 AM Subject: RE: [h-cost] hair taping I'm intrigued by the reference to Elizabeth's second link--I can't find the message this clearly refers to, and maybe hair taping would be helpful to me. snip Ever grateful-- Ruth Anne Baumgartner scholar gypsy and amateur costumer These are the two links I posted before http://www.mfgraffix.com/hird/faoilt/hairtape.html and http://katerina.purplefiles.net/garb/hair/Hair%20taping.htm they are both different methods of hair taping as seen in 16th century Italian images, but it's also a plausible way of anchoring headwear such as French Hoods (which is how the discussion came up) You probably couldn't find it because it was under the header 'Tudor Tailor - another review' as part of a discussion of their method of recreating the French Hood. If you've got a particular time period in mind other than 16th century Italy you probably need a hat, but if it's just generic 'medjeeval' then this technique using something non-slip to hold your hair in place and some decorative ribbon or trim over the top could give you a pretty 'olde worlde' look. Elizabeth Elizabeth Walpole Canberra Australia ewalpole[at]tpg.com.au http://au.geocities.com/amiperiodornot/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Questionable color
Thank you to everyone who answered my question about porpoise skin. I really appreciate your input. Penny Ladnier, Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com www.costumelibrary.com www.costumeclassroom.com www.costumeencyclopedia.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Tudor Tailor -- another review
Thanks Melanie for the suggestions. I did part the hair and brush to the sides, but that didn't help my hair much. I did not roll the hair, as I was trying for the earlier smooth hair style. The idea of sewing the tape to the rest of the hair may work, so I will try that and see what happens, along with hair products. Kimiko Melanie Schuessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip This is the method I use. Thanks for the good website ref! Before I do the braids, though, I part in the center and roll the front of each side like this http://www.marileecody.com/isabel.jpg That keeps the front under control, and makes those little rolls along the hairline. My hair does not stay with pins, as it's too slippery (or maybe it's the shape of my head!). I have to sew the braids to the hair underneath (not just to each other) with ribbon to make it stay. Kimiko, adding gel or mousse and braiding tightly while wet will help. The product will make your hair stick to itself better, and the water will keep it all together while you're braiding. Parting it in the center and brushing to either side before braiding in two braids will also help--that way the hair you're sewing the braids to is going in the ear-to-ear direction instead of the forehead-to-nape direction, and the braids can't slide down the back of your head once sewn to the rest of the hair. Good luck! If I can do it with my hair (which doesn't like to stay _anywhere_), you can too. Melanie - Sponsored Link $420,000 Mortgage for $1,399/month - Think You Pay Too Much For Your Mortgage? Find Out! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: French Hood (was Tudor Tailor review)
I have plans to do a gathering of images for gabled hoods, which I think developed from earlier hoods of the late 1400s. I've been collecting images as I can, and when I get time this winter (I hope) I want to get them online. My next hood will be the gable, as my group does 1520s events, so the gable is a better choice for us. Kimiko Melanie Schuessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've always thought that if someone made a timeline of images showing how the gable and French hood headdresses evolved from earlier fashions, it would help us figure out what's under there. But then, maybe you would need to know what was under there before you could make such a timeline. A timeline can definitely help. I've developed one for the French hood, and from it I can formulate hypotheses about the layers. I haven't done the same for the gable, however. Melanie - Sponsored Link Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. $310,000 Mortgage for $999/mo - Calculate new house payment ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: French Hood cute portrait repros
Hi E House, Project Gutenberg is being a pain in showing the image, which it won't allow a direct link like that. So, would you mind telling us what it is you are referring to,and how we can locate that image, please? Thanks, Kimiko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or perhaps it would work as the back curve on this: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/14264/14264-h/images/30ppi/plate53.jpg - Sponsored Link $420,000 Mortgage for $1,399/month - Think You Pay Too Much For Your Mortgage? Find Out! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
