Re: [h-cost] Academic Dress
That wasn't me, but I did make my own robes. The modern master's robes are based on 16th-century loose gowns with hanging sleeves, so that's what I made (along with a cloth flat cap). My area of study is 16th-century clothing, so it seemed appropriate, and people always compliment me on it at graduation. I'm a professor, so I get to wear it once or twice a year. I don't have any photos that I can post, unfortunately. Melanie Schuessler On Jul 24, 2011, at 3:03 PM, Rickard, Patty wrote: Was'/t there someone on this list who made their own medieval academic gown (in addition to defending their dissertation)and sent a photo journal of the process? Patty ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Academic Dress
Mine are lightweight wool lined with habotai silk, and they're usually quite comfortable here in Michigan. Melanie On Jul 25, 2011, at 12:35 PM, Nordtorp-Madson, Michelle A. wrote: Good plan for linen. I have a set that is bullet-proof polyester and it is like a sweat cabinet when the weather is warm. These days, they are all made of hideous cloth, so I shall be envying you. On 7/25/11 11:30 AM, Susan Farmer sfar...@goldsword.com wrote: On 7/25/2011 9:45 AM, Melanie Schuessler wrote: That wasn't me, but I did make my own robes. The modern master's robes are based on 16th-century loose gowns with hanging sleeves, so that's what I made (along with a cloth flat cap). My area of study is 16th-century clothing, so it seemed appropriate, and people always compliment me on it at graduation. I'm a professor, so I get to wear it once or twice a year. I don't have any photos that I can post, unfortunately. nods. And I'm in south Georgia. I have a bolt of black linen ready to go. I'll wear mine (probably the damn plastic bag) on the 14th, again in December, and again in May. I'm making a Modern Robe, and I want to make a period robe as well. Susan -- Susan Farmer sfar...@goldsword.com Abraham Baldwin Agricultural College Division of Science and Math http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Academic Dress
On 7/25/2011 1:02 PM, Melanie Schuessler wrote: Mine are lightweight wool lined with habotai silk, and they're usually quite comfortable here in Michigan. I want to make the period set out of a lightweight wool. I don't think that would be a problem even in south Georgia! Susan -- Susan Farmer sfar...@goldsword.com Abraham Baldwin Agricultural College Division of Science and Math http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Academic Dress
My consort and I made our best interpretation of both scholar's robes and master's robes for our elevation (SCA) back in January. Academic dress and clerical dress start out as pretty much the same thing and then there is a bit of a divergence--you start seeing physicians and other learned people who are not practicing clerics wearing gowns that are different than what clerical types (bishops, etc.) are wearing, and the academic robes change quite a bit over time. http://www.bl.uk/catalogues/illuminatedmanuscripts/ILLUMIN.ASP?Size=midIllID=40339 is Doctrina from the Omne Bonum, BL Royal 6 E VI vol2 f. 541, wearing what we're pretty sure is a cappa clausa. c. 1360-1375 http://www.bl.uk/catalogues/illuminatedmanuscripts/ILLUMIN.ASP?Size=midIllID=21457 is a university doctor/physician from Harley 3140 f. 32v, 1st quarter 14th c. That's pretty much what our master's robes look like--red wool with the overlong sleeves. Our scholar's robes are dark green with shorter, fingertip-length sleeves. http://www.bl.uk/catalogues/illuminatedmanuscripts/ILLUMIN.ASP?Size=midIllID=23830 has a cleric and a lawyer, wearing a garment which I don't remember the name of. http://www.bl.uk/catalogues/illuminatedmanuscripts/ILLUMIN.ASP?Size=midIllID=32907 has two scholarly types, at least one of them is a lawyer. I think we have a written bibliography, but he's got custody of it. I'll have to ask him again for a copy. Jen/Margaret ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Academic Dress
On 7/25/2011 1:02 PM, Melanie Schuessler wrote: Mine are lightweight wool lined with habotai silk, and they're usually quite comfortable here in Michigan. Melanie, what did you use for your velvet trim? I'm wondering about cannabalizing my plastic robe for it . Susan -- Susan Farmer sfar...@goldsword.com Abraham Baldwin Agricultural College Division of Science and Math http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Academic Dress
On 7/25/2011 2:59 PM, Pixel, Goddess and Queen wrote: My consort and I made our best interpretation of both scholar's robes and master's robes for our elevation (SCA) back in January. Academic dress and clerical dress start out as pretty much the same thing and then there is a bit of a divergence--you start seeing physicians and other learned people who are not practicing clerics wearing gowns that are different than what clerical types (bishops, etc.) are wearing, and the academic robes change quite a bit over time. http://www.bl.uk/catalogues/illuminatedmanuscripts/ILLUMIN.ASP?Size=midIllID=40339 is Doctrina from the Omne Bonum, BL Royal 6 E VI vol2 f. 541, wearing what we're pretty sure is a cappa clausa. c. 1360-1375 http://www.bl.uk/catalogues/illuminatedmanuscripts/ILLUMIN.ASP?Size=midIllID=21457 is a university doctor/physician from Harley 3140 f. 32v, 1st quarter 14th c. That's pretty much what our master's robes look like--red wool with the overlong sleeves. Our scholar's robes are dark green with shorter, fingertip-length sleeves. http://www.bl.uk/catalogues/illuminatedmanuscripts/ILLUMIN.ASP?Size=midIllID=23830 has a cleric and a lawyer, wearing a garment which I don't remember the name of. http://www.bl.uk/catalogues/illuminatedmanuscripts/ILLUMIN.ASP?Size=midIllID=32907 has two scholarly types, at least one of them is a lawyer. I think we have a written bibliography, but he's got custody of it. I'll have to ask him again for a copy. Thanks! A bibliography would be awesome. I've gotten some good hints already. Susan/ jerusha -- Susan Farmer sfar...@goldsword.com Abraham Baldwin Agricultural College Division of Science and Math http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Academic Dress
I used cotton velveteen. Melanie On Jul 25, 2011, at 3:20 PM, Susan Farmer wrote: On 7/25/2011 1:02 PM, Melanie Schuessler wrote: Mine are lightweight wool lined with habotai silk, and they're usually quite comfortable here in Michigan. Melanie, what did you use for your velvet trim? I'm wondering about cannabalizing my plastic robe for it . Susan -- Susan Farmer sfar...@goldsword.com Abraham Baldwin Agricultural College Division of Science and Math http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Academic Dress
On 7/25/2011 5:41 PM, Melanie Schuessler wrote: I used cotton velveteen. Thanks. Susan -- Susan Farmer sfar...@goldsword.com Abraham Baldwin Agricultural College Division of Science and Math http://www.abac.edu/sfarmer/ http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Academic Dress
Melanie, what did you use for your velvet trim? I'm wondering about annabalizing my plastic robe for it . I had great ambition to make my own robe, but then didn't stay in academia. However, I bought lots of the stuff, including black velvet ribbon for the trim. I think that would be easier to manage than making your own strips from velvet or velveteen yardage. Ann Wass -Original Message- From: Melanie Schuessler mela...@faucet.net To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Mon, Jul 25, 2011 5:41 pm Subject: Re: [h-cost] Academic Dress I used cotton velveteen. Melanie On Jul 25, 2011, at 3:20 PM, Susan Farmer wrote: On 7/25/2011 1:02 PM, Melanie Schuessler wrote: Mine are lightweight wool lined with habotai silk, and they're usually quite omfortable here in Michigan. Melanie, what did you use for your velvet trim? I'm wondering about annabalizing my plastic robe for it . Susan -- Susan Farmer sfar...@goldsword.com Abraham Baldwin Agricultural College Division of Science and Math http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume __ -costume mailing list -cost...@mail.indra.com ttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Academic Dress
On 7/25/2011 8:15 PM, annbw...@aol.com wrote: Melanie, what did you use for your velvet trim? I'm wondering about annabalizing my plastic robe for it . I had great ambition to make my own robe, but then didn't stay in academia. However, I bought lots of the stuff, including black velvet ribbon for the trim. I think that would be easier to manage than making your own strips from velvet or velveteen yardage. I contemplated that as well. You can see rolls of it in various widths. Susan -- Susan Farmer sfar...@goldsword.com Abraham Baldwin Agricultural College Division of Science and Math http://www.abac.edu/sfarmer/ http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
